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Sounds de-lish - I do enjoy the *sissy boy* version of same, shrimp tempura, but if I asked for it from that old bastard, along with my 'accent', I wouldn't get very far. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Its pretty foul stuff, but you wouldn't believe how many people love their veggies flavored with some strek o'lean or even fried streak o'lean. I used to know this old bastard who would put on fish fries, and in addition to the fried fish, he would offer folks fat back sandwiches which consisted of frozen pieces of white bread, Sunbeam or Bunny bread, take the fat back and drop it in the hot oil used to fry the fish. Half of the fat back would dissolve cause its all fat, but what was left was crispy on the outside and then you take the piping hot piece of pure pork fried fat and slap it onto a piece of the frozen bread, the heat from the fried fatback would thaw the bread and the cold of the bread would cool the fatback enough to eat it - this feller had at least one heart attack I know of before he died. On Wed, 10/16/13, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 2:11 PM Sounds like that chunk of stuff that was always in a can of pork and beans. I'll take crisp bacon, or pulled pork, or a stuffed tenderloin over that, any day! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: for those who may not know, streak o lean is fat taken from the back of the hog - fat back is the pure fat, streak o lean is about 90% fat with a just a thin streak of lean meat running through the middle of the fat. The MD ladies are wanting some mighty bad in their rice and dhal even if they don't know it. On Wed, 10/16/13, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 1:39 PM Now that's better - I was beginning to think I was dealing with retards on this discussion group. I'm glad to see that at least someone has some real integrity left in them. Keep up the good work - let's really make these TMers look stupid. That religious group up in Iowa needs to be exposed and stamped out fer sure. You are one of the most interesting fink informers on this list. Thanks for all the info who ever you are. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I had a ritam today - I saw myself in the Mother Divine and Purusha kitchens, putting about a pound and a half of streak o'lean in their mung dhal - I saw then all eat the dhal, with basmati rice of course and then every one of them got enlightened, thanks to me and streak o'lean.
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emptybill, does ritam occur only on the para level or also on the pashyanti level where the four levels of speech from tantric tradition are para (transcendent or nondual speech), pashyanti (the speech which is seen), madhyama (mental speech), vaikhari (spoken speech). In para, one just has to hang around a nondual realizer and they realize that that state transmits the potentiality for all answers without an intervening transfer. So the tension of question and answer just spontaneously resolves itself at that level. Thus a realizer radiating bodhichitta, the thought of enlightenment for all sentience tends to actualize realization in others merely by their presence, although this is not necessarily is limited by space/ distance or time. Pashyanti is pure visionary speech beyond karmic vision. Madhyama are thoughts or communication within the mental body or dimension. Vaikhari is dualistic speech coming from our vocal chords. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:25 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Ritam Bhara Prajña Ha Ha ,,, All this talk about Ritam ... doesn't anyone here read Vyasa's commentary on the Yoga Sutras? August, 2010 reply ... (Now that is Rtam.) Ritam-bhara prajna is not described this way by Vyasa so I am not sure where this interpretation comes from. Ritam prajna is described by him as direct non-conceptual knowing of a particular in which there is no such thing as a general idea (that means no abstraction whatsoever, whether linguistic or conceptual). This type of direct cognition is unconditioned by concepts of space, time or cause. That means this insight or direct perception is independent of: 1. any locus of the seer/seeing /seen 2. any sequence of moments in which it occurs 3. any causal conditions which seem to anchor or produce such insight. This type of direct cognition sees the specific characteristics and qualities of an object just as it is in itself without regard to the overlays of conditioning, either by thought, language or culture, whether known or unknown. Although Ritam is described in the Rig Veda as the Right, it is conjoined with Satyam (Truth) and Brihat (the Vast Expanse) i.e. these are three mutual values that uphold the universe. Just as prakriti is just the three guna-s functioning together in coordination, so Dharma is satyam, ritam, brihat ... the Truth, the Right, the Vast ... conjoined in universal functioning. Swaha ... Swa ha ha ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share wrote: yep (-:
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Ann, I think it's a very big universe having plenty of room for all kinds of paths and lifestyles and ways of living, of being in the world. Better one's own dharma than the dharma of another, though higher. The dharma of another brings danger. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes. I was halfway kidding, but it was the only way I could think of to pose the question, which was legitimate: if you acquire some physical object via Ritam, where does it come from? Is it created out of thin air just for you? Or did it already exist somewhere and was just brought to you? Another example they used was if you want an apple, you'll find one in your hand. I was tempted to ask if you'd get a specific variety of apple--Macintosh, Golden Delicious, e.g.--or if it would be a sort of generic cosmic apple. But given that they ignored my question about the phone book, I figured they either didn't know or had no interest in the details. Gimme a break, I'd only been meditating for around six months! I think it's great. I love asking really literal questions when you get the big spiel on things like ritam or other rather grandiose purported phenomena possibilities. It is perfectly natural to ask the questions you did and it also makes these people have to think a little and analyze how the thing might actually work beyond some airy fairy 'fact' that it does. More people should have taken the route you did instead of sitting there like numbskulls nodding their fool heads in wonderment. (Share?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you're kidding, did you really ask if someone somewhere wold be missing a page? From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace FWIW, as a mere meditator, I first heard about Ritam in either late 1975 or early 1976, on a residence course at which the teachers gave a lecture on the TM-Sidhis. Among the examples of Ritam they gave was the guy who needed to know a phone number, who would find in his hands the appropriate page of the phone book. I asked whether the page would have been generated de novo, or whether there was some poor shlump somewhere who would then have a phone book with a missing page. As absurd as the example was, I think it was actually a good theoretical question. After all, we were hearing about Ritam for the first time and had no idea what the mechanics involved. The teachers apparently assumed I was unstressing and ignored it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My old friend Edmund Taylor who now lives in North Carolina claims that it was in response to a question from him that Marshy first spoke of ritam - he says there's a tape of it in the TM archives - it had to be in the 1970's cuz that's when he did TTC - dunno if its true but that's what he claims From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace From the BATGAP forum. The context was world peace. This is a post I made, over there, earlier this evening: Kind of funny the way Maharishi used to talk A LOT about patience, and his analogy of selling pencils to earn money, one pencil at a time. Burned right through my youthful enthusiasm, and later, my ego, just long enough to make me realize, that he was expressing a time frame that operates on its own, leading surely to success. Helped me get past false expectations for myself, and the world. Allowed me to stay focused on the goal, which I thought was external for the longest time, and it *almost* is: Ritam Bhara Pragya. When I first heard about Ritam, in the 1980's, it was in the context of immediate benefit, expression of the sidhis. Now I find out, backwards, that it is the state of mind, where the rhythm of the mind matches the rhythm of the universe. I found out backwards, because I was thinking about how to finish the sentence in paragraph two, and 'Ritam Bhara Pragya' came in, so I googled it, and found out it was exactly what I was trying to express. So, that's how stuff happens now. Further unfolding of the TMSP - full access to mind, matter, and everything in between. An expansion of living Brahman, where the difference between inside and out, practically disappears, this is another union, between an enlightened mind (intellect and heart in Yoga), and manifestation, or not, in the manifest world
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they must-a toned it down a bit cuz when we asked about ritam during our sidhi prep courses in 1976-77 they always talked about it as something you would experience in your consciousness, not in literal physical reality From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes. I was halfway kidding, but it was the only way I could think of to pose the question, which was legitimate: if you acquire some physical object via Ritam, where does it come from? Is it created out of thin air just for you? Or did it already exist somewhere and was just brought to you? Another example they used was if you want an apple, you'll find one in your hand. I was tempted to ask if you'd get a specific variety of apple--Macintosh, Golden Delicious, e.g.--or if it would be a sort of generic cosmic apple. But given that they ignored my question about the phone book, I figured they either didn't know or had no interest in the details. Gimme a break, I'd only been meditating for around six months! I think it's great. I love asking really literal questions when you get the big spiel on things like ritam or other rather grandiose purported phenomena possibilities. It is perfectly natural to ask the questions you did and it also makes these people have to think a little and analyze how the thing might actually work beyond some airy fairy 'fact' that it does. More people should have taken the route you did instead of sitting there like numbskulls nodding their fool heads in wonderment. (Share?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you're kidding, did you really ask if someone somewhere wold be missing a page? From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace FWIW, as a mere meditator, I first heard about Ritam in either late 1975 or early 1976, on a residence course at which the teachers gave a lecture on the TM-Sidhis. Among the examples of Ritam they gave was the guy who needed to know a phone number, who would find in his hands the appropriate page of the phone book. I asked whether the page would have been generated de novo, or whether there was some poor shlump somewhere who would then have a phone book with a missing page. As absurd as the example was, I think it was actually a good theoretical question. After all, we were hearing about Ritam for the first time and had no idea what the mechanics involved. The teachers apparently assumed I was unstressing and ignored it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My old friend Edmund Taylor who now lives in North Carolina claims that it was in response to a question from him that Marshy first spoke of ritam - he says there's a tape of it in the TM archives - it had to be in the 1970's cuz that's when he did TTC - dunno if its true but that's what he claims From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace From the BATGAP forum. The context was world peace. This is a post I made, over there, earlier this evening: Kind of funny the way Maharishi used to talk A LOT about patience, and his analogy of selling pencils to earn money, one pencil at a time. Burned right through my youthful enthusiasm, and later, my ego, just long enough to make me realize, that he was expressing a time frame that operates on its own, leading surely to success. Helped me get past false expectations for myself, and the world. Allowed me to stay focused on the goal, which I thought was external for the longest time, and it *almost* is: Ritam Bhara Pragya. When I first heard about Ritam, in the 1980's, it was in the context of immediate benefit, expression of the sidhis. Now I find out, backwards, that it is the state of mind, where the rhythm of the mind matches the rhythm of the universe. I found out backwards, because I was thinking about how to finish the sentence in paragraph two, and 'Ritam Bhara Pragya' came in, so I googled it, and found out it was exactly what I was trying to express. So, that's how stuff happens now. Further unfolding of the TMSP - full access to mind, matter, and everything in between. An expansion of living Brahman, where the difference between inside and out, practically disappears, this is another union, between an enlightened mind (intellect and heart in Yoga), and manifestation, or not, in the manifest world, the physical world
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Doc, this makes me think of pragyaparadh, mistake of the intellect, which is basically duality, thinking, experiencing that there is anything outside of wholeness. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:46 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Yes, it was *definitely* Maharishi talking about his experiences. The danger in taking celestial visions at face value, before the intellect is established, is not in the visions, or entities, themselves. It is because the mind is not stable enough to recognize what is real, and what is not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Doc, I think that was Maharishi explaining ritam. Anyway, many spiritual teachers warn against going this route before being established at least on the celestial level. Beings in the astral realm can disguise their intention towards humans. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:43 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Always wonderful to read about another person's similar experiences. Emphasis on being *established* in Ritam, before considering any celestial visions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Doc, thanks for wonderful topic. I googled on Maharishi ritam and this transcript was the first listing. Great detailed analysis: http://spirituelle-erfahrungen.blog.de/2009/12/09/mmy-ritam-bhara-pragya-7542180/ From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace From the BATGAP forum. The context was world peace. This is a post I made, over there, earlier this evening: Kind of funny the way Maharishi used to talk A LOT about patience, and his analogy of selling pencils to earn money, one pencil at a time. Burned right through my youthful enthusiasm, and later, my ego, just long enough to make me realize, that he was expressing a time frame that operates on its own, leading surely to success. Helped me get past false expectations for myself, and the world. Allowed me to stay focused on the goal, which I thought was external for the longest time, and it *almost* is: Ritam Bhara Pragya. When I first heard about Ritam, in the 1980's, it was in the context of immediate benefit, expression of the sidhis. Now I find out, backwards, that it is the state of mind, where the rhythm of the mind matches the rhythm of the universe. I found out backwards, because I was thinking about how to finish the sentence in paragraph two, and 'Ritam Bhara Pragya' came in, so I googled it, and found out it was exactly what I was trying to express. So, that's how stuff happens now. Further unfolding of the TMSP - full access to mind, matter, and everything in between. An expansion of living Brahman, where the difference between inside and out, practically disappears, this is another union, between an enlightened mind (intellect and heart in Yoga), and manifestation, or not, in the manifest world, the physical world. The deepest and most powerful impulses of creation make themselves known, not in any dramatic fashion, but in a way that is natural, and approachable, making as much sense as those more obvious laws in what I will call the most obvious world. Finally, such experience is incredibly useful! An entire landscape, conforming to Maharishi's expression, do less, and accomplish more, opens up. A very different, yet deeply satisfying way of functioning, where any point in time or space, ranging from nanoseconds, to cosmic eons, is available. No gaps. Certainly, for myself, I am rarely greatly concerned about my well being. However, every human desires world peace, and I will always wait, and work, for that.
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A man walked by a pond and noticed a scorpion in it, drowning. He lifted the scorpion out of the water and the scorpion stung him. Why did you do that, the man asked. Because it's my nature to sting, replied the scorpion. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Well, there you go, Ann. See how we underestimate Share? She understood exactly what you were asking and responded with a profound insight that spoke directly to your question: It's a very big universe having plenty of room for all kinds of paths and lifestyles and ways of living, of being in the world. And she followed up with a brilliantly relevant teaching of Maharishi's: The dharma of another brings danger. Now aren't you glad you asked her to contribute? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, I think it's a very big universe having plenty of room for all kinds of paths and lifestyles and ways of living, of being in the world. Better one's own dharma than the dharma of another, though higher. The dharma of another brings danger. From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes. I was halfway kidding, but it was the only way I could think of to pose the question, which was legitimate: if you acquire some physical object via Ritam, where does it come from? Is it created out of thin air just for you? Or did it already exist somewhere and was just brought to you? Another example they used was if you want an apple, you'll find one in your hand. I was tempted to ask if you'd get a specific variety of apple--Macintosh, Golden Delicious, e.g.--or if it would be a sort of generic cosmic apple. But given that they ignored my question about the phone book, I figured they either didn't know or had no interest in the details. Gimme a break, I'd only been meditating for around six months! I think it's great. I love asking really literal questions when you get the big spiel on things like ritam or other rather grandiose purported phenomena possibilities. It is perfectly natural to ask the questions you did and it also makes these people have to think a little and analyze how the thing might actually work beyond some airy fairy 'fact' that it does. More people should have taken the route you did instead of sitting there like numbskulls nodding their fool heads in wonderment. (Share?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you're kidding, did you really ask if someone somewhere wold be missing a page? From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace FWIW, as a mere meditator, I first heard about Ritam in either late 1975 or early 1976, on a residence course at which the teachers gave a lecture on the TM-Sidhis. Among the examples of Ritam they gave was the guy who needed to know a phone number, who would find in his hands the appropriate page of the phone book. I asked whether the page would have been generated de novo, or whether there was some poor shlump somewhere who would then have a phone book with a missing page. As absurd as the example was, I think it was actually a good theoretical question. After all, we were hearing about Ritam for the first time and had no idea what the mechanics involved. The teachers apparently assumed I was unstressing and ignored it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My old friend Edmund Taylor who now lives in North Carolina claims that it was in response to a question from him that Marshy first spoke of ritam - he says there's a tape of it in the TM archives - it had to be in the 1970's cuz that's when he did TTC - dunno if its true but that's what he claims From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace From the BATGAP forum. The context was world peace. This is a post I made, over there, earlier this evening: Kind of funny the way Maharishi used to talk A LOT about patience, and his analogy of selling pencils to earn money, one pencil at a time. Burned right through my youthful enthusiasm, and later, my ego, just long enough to make me realize, that he was expressing a time frame that operates on its own, leading surely
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Wear whichever shoe fits, Judy. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Oh, do you feel stung, Share? I thought what I wrote was quite complimentary. Have you ever tried to sting anybody yourself? Or were you suggesting that I was drowning and you saved me? Do elaborate. Share wrote: A man walked by a pond and noticed a scorpion in it, drowning. He lifted the scorpion out of the water and the scorpion stung him. Why did you do that, the man asked. Because it's my nature to sting, replied the scorpion. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Well, there you go, Ann. See how we underestimate Share? She understood exactly what you were asking and responded with a profound insight that spoke directly to your question: It's a very big universe having plenty of room for all kinds of paths and lifestyles and ways of living, of being in the world. And she followed up with a brilliantly relevant teaching of Maharishi's: The dharma of another brings danger. Now aren't you glad you asked her to contribute?
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yep, all different kinds of dharma in the world, infinite actually, unfathomable even From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, I think it's a very big universe having plenty of room for all kinds of paths and lifestyles and ways of living, of being in the world. Better one's own dharma than the dharma of another, though higher. The dharma of another brings danger. Is there a dharma for believing everything you hear and see or don't see and don't hear? From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes. I was halfway kidding, but it was the only way I could think of to pose the question, which was legitimate: if you acquire some physical object via Ritam, where does it come from? Is it created out of thin air just for you? Or did it already exist somewhere and was just brought to you? Another example they used was if you want an apple, you'll find one in your hand. I was tempted to ask if you'd get a specific variety of apple--Macintosh, Golden Delicious, e.g.--or if it would be a sort of generic cosmic apple. But given that they ignored my question about the phone book, I figured they either didn't know or had no interest in the details. Gimme a break, I'd only been meditating for around six months! I think it's great. I love asking really literal questions when you get the big spiel on things like ritam or other rather grandiose purported phenomena possibilities. It is perfectly natural to ask the questions you did and it also makes these people have to think a little and analyze how the thing might actually work beyond some airy fairy 'fact' that it does. More people should have taken the route you did instead of sitting there like numbskulls nodding their fool heads in wonderment. (Share?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you're kidding, did you really ask if someone somewhere wold be missing a page? From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace FWIW, as a mere meditator, I first heard about Ritam in either late 1975 or early 1976, on a residence course at which the teachers gave a lecture on the TM-Sidhis. Among the examples of Ritam they gave was the guy who needed to know a phone number, who would find in his hands the appropriate page of the phone book. I asked whether the page would have been generated de novo, or whether there was some poor shlump somewhere who would then have a phone book with a missing page. As absurd as the example was, I think it was actually a good theoretical question. After all, we were hearing about Ritam for the first time and had no idea what the mechanics involved. The teachers apparently assumed I was unstressing and ignored it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My old friend Edmund Taylor who now lives in North Carolina claims that it was in response to a question from him that Marshy first spoke of ritam - he says there's a tape of it in the TM archives - it had to be in the 1970's cuz that's when he did TTC - dunno if its true but that's what he claims From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace From the BATGAP forum. The context was world peace. This is a post I made, over there, earlier this evening: Kind of funny the way Maharishi used to talk A LOT about patience, and his analogy of selling pencils to earn money, one pencil at a time. Burned right through my youthful enthusiasm, and later, my ego, just long enough to make me realize, that he was expressing a time frame that operates on its own, leading surely to success. Helped me get past false expectations for myself, and the world. Allowed me to stay focused on the goal, which I thought was external for the longest time, and it *almost* is: Ritam Bhara Pragya. When I first heard about Ritam, in the 1980's, it was in the context of immediate benefit, expression of the sidhis. Now I find out, backwards, that it is the state of mind, where the rhythm of the mind matches the rhythm of the universe. I found out backwards, because I was thinking about how
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yep (-: From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:59 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A man walked by a pond and noticed a scorpion in it, drowning. He lifted the scorpion out of the water and the scorpion stung him. Why did you do that, the man asked. Because it's my nature to sting, replied the scorpion. The perfection of the scorpion performing within its true dharma.Beautiful. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Well, there you go, Ann. See how we underestimate Share? She understood exactly what you were asking and responded with a profound insight that spoke directly to your question: It's a very big universe having plenty of room for all kinds of paths and lifestyles and ways of living, of being in the world. And she followed up with a brilliantly relevant teaching of Maharishi's: The dharma of another brings danger. Now aren't you glad you asked her to contribute? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, I think it's a very big universe having plenty of room for all kinds of paths and lifestyles and ways of living, of being in the world. Better one's own dharma than the dharma of another, though higher. The dharma of another brings danger. From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes. I was halfway kidding, but it was the only way I could think of to pose the question, which was legitimate: if you acquire some physical object via Ritam, where does it come from? Is it created out of thin air just for you? Or did it already exist somewhere and was just brought to you? Another example they used was if you want an apple, you'll find one in your hand. I was tempted to ask if you'd get a specific variety of apple--Macintosh, Golden Delicious, e.g.--or if it would be a sort of generic cosmic apple. But given that they ignored my question about the phone book, I figured they either didn't know or had no interest in the details. Gimme a break, I'd only been meditating for around six months! I think it's great. I love asking really literal questions when you get the big spiel on things like ritam or other rather grandiose purported phenomena possibilities. It is perfectly natural to ask the questions you did and it also makes these people have to think a little and analyze how the thing might actually work beyond some airy fairy 'fact' that it does. More people should have taken the route you did instead of sitting there like numbskulls nodding their fool heads in wonderment. (Share?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you're kidding, did you really ask if someone somewhere wold be missing a page? From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:13 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace FWIW, as a mere meditator, I first heard about Ritam in either late 1975 or early 1976, on a residence course at which the teachers gave a lecture on the TM-Sidhis. Among the examples of Ritam they gave was the guy who needed to know a phone number, who would find in his hands the appropriate page of the phone book. I asked whether the page would have been generated de novo, or whether there was some poor shlump somewhere who would then have a phone book with a missing page. As absurd as the example was, I think it was actually a good theoretical question. After all, we were hearing about Ritam for the first time and had no idea what the mechanics involved. The teachers apparently assumed I was unstressing and ignored it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My old friend Edmund Taylor who now lives in North Carolina claims that it was in response to a question from him that Marshy first spoke of ritam - he says there's a tape of it in the TM archives - it had to be in the 1970's cuz that's when he did TTC - dunno if its true but that's what he claims From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace From the BATGAP
