Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Black Racism=Imus' Firing..'

2007-04-12 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/12/07 1:39:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

But I  
think what has so many of us so annoyed by his latest insult is that  
is was just so damned mean, so damned nasty, so incredibly uncalled  
for even under the standards of the political/media culture we live 
in  today. The RU basketball team wasn't asking for it.  



I guess you and I see it entirely different. My take was that nothing  was 
said out of meanness,with the intent to cause hurt feelings but rather  Imus 
got 
a little too comfortable with Ghetto speak, yet couldn't pull it off  right 
without sticking his foot in his mouth. Somebody is always waiting to be  
offended to claim their status as a victim and all that goes along with  it.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Black Racism=Imus' Firing..'

2007-04-13 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Imus is rich.  Those women are not.  They are world-class scholarship athletes 
with a chance.  And when it comes to men in their lives my bet is that they're 
treated with respect.  Imus is in the socio-economic elite and is out of touch. 
 Satellite radio may not want him as they cater to a younger demographic than 
MSNBC and CBS.  May he be reduced to interviewing Vincent A. "Buddy" Cianci, 
the longest tenured mayor in American history, when Cianci finishes his five 
years in Club Fed next month.  And may Cianci get the better of him once again.

   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Black Racism=Imus' Firing..'

2007-04-13 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/13/07 12:52:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

guess  you and I see it entirely different. My take was that 
> nothing was  said out of meanness,with the intent to cause hurt 
> feelings but  rather Imus got a little too comfortable with
> Ghetto speak, yet  couldn't pull it off right without sticking
> his foot in his mouth.  Somebody is always waiting to be 
> offended to claim their status as a  victim and all that goes
> along with it.

Yeah, I don't think  these teenagers were just waiting
for him to hurt their feelings. It came  out of the blue.
Why on earth would they expect a big-time radio and  TV
host to make fun of their appearance and call  them
whores?



And they accomplished more than winning the game. They got their fifteen  
minutes of fame and will be remembered long after the winners of the game are  
long forgotten.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Black Racism=Imus' Firing..'

2007-04-13 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/13/07 12:52:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

He no  longer has a show, but he still has a big
potential audience and a lot of  reporters eager to
give him a platform. He now has a terrific  opportunity
to make up for what he did by speaking out against  the
on-air ugliness that's become such a curse in this
country,  encourage people to protest when Limbaugh and
Savage and Beck and O'Reilly  and Hannity and their ilk
indulge in it. He could become a real force for  reform.



Have you ever listened to any of these guys or do you go by what others say  
they said?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Black Racism=Imus' Firing..'

2007-04-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/13/07 11:04:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yeah, I  don't think these teenagers were just waiting
> for him to hurt their  feelings. It came out of the blue.
> Why on earth would they expect a  big-time radio and TV
> host to make fun of their appearance and call  them
> whores?
> 
> And they accomplished more than winning  the game. They got their
> fifteen minutes of fame and will be  remembered long after the
> winners of the game are long  forgotten.

So you don't think their feelings were really hurt,
they  just wanted to get on television, right?

Gee, you should have told Imus  that. He wouldn't
have gone to all that trouble to apologize to
them and  meet with them.

Don't you get that *Imus himself* thinks he said  a
terribly hurtful thing?




Possibly, some on the team could be overly sensitive. Not being an Imus fan  
myself, I do know he makes comments like these all the time, it's his job, he  
was hired as a shock jock and nobody takes him seriously. My take on his  
comments was that he was actually paying them a complement, Ghetto style, and 
it  
backfired. Tattooed, nappy headed, ho's sounds like a tuff bunch of girls,  
playing a tuff game. http://www.aol.com.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Black Racism=Imus' Firing..'

2007-04-14 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
The minute the Imus racism thing came out Howard Stern said Imus was toast.  
Stern believes that all along CBS has just been waiting for a pretext to unload 
him.

authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
"curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With black slang terms saturating our culture, and a very
> strong knee jerk chain reaction in place, I don't think
> much good is going to come of this mess. It just ensures
> that no politician can have any serious dialog in the
> minefield of race, just as has been the fate of legalizing
> drugs and other social issues that have gone under the no
> talk rule.

Not sure which unnamed social issues you're referring
to here, but Gov. Richardson of New Mexico made news--
and controversy--recently when he signed a bill
permitting the medical use of marijuana.

And I can't imagine why you think the Imus incident
will somehow *stifle* discussion of race. If anything,
it's pulled it up front and center. It's also hardly a
"knee-jerk" reaction.

With Imus, it's as much the sexism of the comment as
the racism, maybe even more the sexism, although
obviously they're intertwined. You don't have to be
black to find the remark personally offensive. We
still haven't gotten over judging women's value by
their appearance rather than their achievements.

But overall, the reaction has been a boiling-over
of built-up resentment of the general nastiness of
the public dialogue these days. Anne Coulter lost
a bunch of advertisers when she called John Edwards
a faggot recently. It's just ironic that the first
of the nasty-talkers to have his career seriously
damaged by the backlash wasn't one of the right-
wingers, who are by far the worst offenders.

If the Imus firing has given them a bit of a shiver,
though, that's all to the good.

The really idiotic part of this is the howls from
certain quarters about "free speech" and "censorship,"
as if the only way one can express one's views is by
spitting excrement. Nobody's trying to change content,
just its tone.



 

   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Black Racism=Imus' Firing..'

2007-04-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 4/14/07 2:17:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My take  on his 
> comments was that he was actually paying them a  complement,
> Ghetto style, and it backfired. Tattooed, nappy headed,  ho's
> sounds like a tuff bunch of girls, playing a tuff  game.

Oh, please. "Hos" isn't a compliment, even  ghetto-style.



Oh, but even the most outrageous words can be complements or terms of  
endearment when spoken in the proper tone, in the proper context, in the  black 
ghetto. You might let some of the older black comedians explain that to  you.



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