Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/11/06 8:11:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I read the story later, full of speculation and ssumptions on Rummy's role if any. But the fact remained, Clinton authorized the sale of the Nuclear reactors to NK, not Rummy.There you go again Mason, blaming Clinton for everything. He can't help it; that's the Republican talking point, and he's not permitted to deviate from it: So Judy, are you saying it's not Clinton's fault but rather Bush's fault or even Rummy's fault that Clinton authorized the sale of light water nuclear reactors to North Korea?See if you can phrase a question that makes sense,MDixon, and I'll respond.In the meantime, two questions for you:Can a lightwater reactor be used to make bombs?Did North Korea ever get the lightwater reactor? Nice tactic Judy, trying to change the subject. Read the article in question and come back to the original thought, that some how it was Rummy's fault concerning approved sale ofthat technology. Rumsfeld only sat on the board of the company that was given approval by Clinton to deal with NK. While it is definitely clear Clinton gavestate approval of such deal there is no evidence, only innuendo, andspeculation that Rumsfeld *may* have had something to do with it. So yeah, Clinton's coddling and showering of gifts and appeasing NK who was stabbing him in the back was a failed policy. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/11/06 9:35:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/11/06 5:11:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So where's the ad showing Cheney shaking hands with Saddam? He didn't True, it was Donald Rumsfeld who shook hands with Saddam. Bingo, and when you are a guest in a country and you have an audience with the leader of that country you always exchange pleasantries and shake hands before getting down to business. Of course. Are you suggesting that such was not the case with Albright? Not at all. Is that what you think?Fair enough. My concern is how you do business. Do we coddle and appease a rogue nation like NK or should we be fair but firm with them? Which is exactly the difference I see in how the Clinton administration and the Bush administration have dealt with NK. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/11/06 9:34:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There you go again Mason, blaming Clinton for everything Oh, now that's funny. You can blame Bush for all your suffering but if I point out the very same article you quote says Clinton authorized the sale of light water nuclear technology to North Korea, all the sudden, I'm unfairly blaming Clinton. And Rummy's company bares no responsibility then? You seem to be saying that. Rummy's company? He owns it? You are assuming because he sits on the board he has full say in what the company does. The article you quote doesn't even go that far.And even if it were *his* company it is the government that decides what countries they may do business with when it comes to nuclear technology. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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In a message dated 10/12/06 12:43:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I read the story later, full of speculation and ssumptions on Rummy's role if any. But the fact remained, Clinton authorized the sale of the Nuclear reactors to NK, not Rummy. There you go again Mason, blaming Clinton for everything.He can't help it; that's the Republican talking point, and he's not permitted to deviate from it:So Judy, are you saying it's not Clinton's fault but rather Bush's fault or even Rummy's fault that Clinton authorized the sale of light water nuclear reactors to North Korea? See if you can phrase a question that makes sense, MDixon, and I'll respond.MDixon, this is Judy's M.O.: when she's cornered, she asks you to either rephrase your question or she calls you a liar.Her brain is not wired to enable her to answer a question that shows she is wrong. It was a perfectly good question Shemp. All it took was a yes or a no or I don't understand what you mean. The article I was referring to was clearly pointing the finger at Rummy as having some responsibility, some how, for the decision to sell light water nuclear technology to NK just because Rummy sat on the board of the company that Clinton approved to do the deal. Clinton approved the deal , not Rummy and not Bush. So if there is going to be any finger pointing, about such a deal,go to where the *buck* is supposed to stop. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/11/06 9:34:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There you go again Mason, blaming Clinton for everything Oh, now that's funny. You can blame Bush for all your suffering but if I point out the very same article you quote says Clinton authorized the sale of light water nuclear technology to North Korea, all the sudden, I'm unfairly blaming Clinton. And Rummy's company bares no responsibility then? You seem to be saying that. Rummy's company? He owns it? You are assuming because he sits on the board he has full say in what the company does. The article you quote doesn't even go that far. And even if it were *his* company it is the government that decides what countries they may do business with when it comes to nuclear technology. Sitting on the board of directors he had to be aware of the sale. And companies *do* have ways of getting around government restrictions such has having their offices offshore. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/10/06 7:04:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: In a message dated 10/10/06 6:03:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So where's the ad showing Cheney shaking hands with Saddam? He didn'tTrue, it was Donald Rumsfeld who shook hands with Saddam. Bingo, and when you are a guest in a country and you have an audience with the leader of that country you always exchange pleasantries and shake hands before getting down to business. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/10/06 7:03:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So where's the ad showing Cheney shaking hands with Saddam?Better yet Kim Jong Il shaking hands with Donald Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld was on the board of the company that sold North Korea the equipment to process uranium. Um, Cheney never met Saddam, it was Rumsfeld . And dignitaries always shake hands when they meet, especially if you are on the other person's turf. I have no idea about Rumsfeld being on any board, of any company, that sold technological equipment to North Korea, but you need to ask yourself , who, in the government,approvedthe sale of that equipment and technology? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/10/06 7:03:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So where's the ad showing Cheney shaking hands with Saddam? Better yet Kim Jong Il shaking hands with Donald Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld was on the board of the company that sold North Korea the equipment to process uranium. Um, Cheney never met Saddam, it was Rumsfeld . And dignitaries always shake hands when they meet, especially if you are on the other person's turf. I have no idea about Rumsfeld being on any board, of any company, that sold technological equipment to North Korea, but you need to ask yourself , who, in the government, approved the sale of that equipment and technology? http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,00.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/11/06 11:48:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Um, Cheney never met Saddam, it was Rumsfeld . And dignitaries always shake hands when they meet, especially if you are on the other person's turf. I have no idea about Rumsfeld being on any board, of any company, that sold technological equipment to North Korea, but you need to ask yourself , who, in the government, approved the sale of that equipment and technology? http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,00.html Yeah, I read the story later, full of speculation and assumptions on Rummy's role if any. But the fact remained, Clinton authorized the sale of the Nuclear reactors to NK, not Rummy. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/11/06 11:48:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Um, Cheney never met Saddam, it was Rumsfeld . And dignitaries always shake hands when they meet, especially if you are on the other person's turf. I have no idea about Rumsfeld being on any board, of any company, that sold technological equipment to North Korea, but you need to ask yourself , who, in the government, approved the sale of that equipment and technology? _http://www.guardianhttp://www.guhttp://wwwhttp://www.ghttp://_ (http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,00.html) Yeah, I read the story later, full of speculation and assumptions on Rummy's role if any. But the fact remained, Clinton authorized the sale of the Nuclear reactors to NK, not Rummy. There you go again Mason, blaming Clinton for everything. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/11/06 3:24:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And no one in their right mind (no pun intended) could've foreseen just a few years later that North Korea would be branded as part of an Axis of Evil- Really, really stupid of Bush- He needs to be asking some questions when Cheney feeds him his dog food. Oh , are you saying Clinton didn't know the reputation of the NK's? That maybe he thought Kim Jung Ill was really a nice guy and could be trusted if we sang Kumbhaya with him? Another Bush's fault scenario that Kim Jung Ill is a bastard and can't be trusted? Please. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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In a message dated 10/11/06 4:33:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I read the story later, full of speculation and assumptions on Rummy's role if any. But the fact remained, Clinton authorized the sale of the Nuclear reactors to NK, not Rummy. There you go again Mason, blaming Clinton for everything Oh, now that's funny. You can blame Bush for all your suffering but if I point outthe very same article you quote says Clinton authorized the sale of light water nuclear technology to North Korea, all the sudden, I'm unfairly blaming Clinton. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/11/06 5:11:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So where's the ad showing Cheney shaking hands with Saddam? He didn't True, it was Donald Rumsfeld who shook hands with Saddam. Bingo, and when you are a guest in a country and you have an audience with the leader of that country you always exchange pleasantries and shake hands before getting down to business.Of course. Are you suggesting that such was not the case with Albright? Not at all. Is that what you think? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/11/06 6:03:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agree with the poor opinion stated of KJI- I just think more would've been accomplished through continued hard headed negotiations, which is what Clinton was doing, than insulting and ignoring someone who is isolated and insecure to begin with. Bad call on Cheney's part. First of all what Clinton was doing failed, it didn't work. Kim Jung Ill needs to learn that we don't trust him and never will again and if he's going to make any deals, he needs to make them with all of his neighbors so he will piss off more than us if he chooses to play games. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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In a message dated 10/11/06 5:21:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I read the story later, full of speculation and ssumptions on Rummy's role if any. But the fact remained, Clinton authorized the sale of the Nuclear reactors to NK, not Rummy. There you go again Mason, blaming Clinton for everything.He can't help it; that's the Republican talking point,and he's not permitted to deviate from it: So Judy, are you saying it's not Clinton's fault but rather Bush's fault or even Rummy's faultthat Clinton authorized the sale of light water nuclear reactors to North Korea? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/11/06 4:33:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I read the story later, full of speculation and assumptions on Rummy's role if any. But the fact remained, Clinton authorized the sale of the Nuclear reactors to NK, not Rummy. There you go again Mason, blaming Clinton for everything Oh, now that's funny. You can blame Bush for all your suffering but if I point out the very same article you quote says Clinton authorized the sale of light water nuclear technology to North Korea, all the sudden, I'm unfairly blaming Clinton. And Rummy's company bares no responsibility then? You seem to be saying that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
In a message dated 10/10/06 6:03:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So where's the ad showing Cheney shaking hands with Saddam? He didn't __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Albright changes tires of Mid-East dictators
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'SCARY MOVIE' PRODUCER MAKES CAMPAIGN AD; MOCKS DEMOCRATS Tue Oct 10 2006 15:13:16 ET **Exclusive** The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained an exclusive copy of a scary campaign advertisement created by Hollywood producer and director David Zucker that was intended to be used by GOP organizations in the closing weeks of the 2006 campaign. However, the advertisement was deemed too hot by GOP strategists all across Washington, DC who have refused to use it! [VIDEO LINK] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3GPc_yMCE In the ad, Zucker, producer of SCARY MOVIE 4, recreates former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's 2000 visit to North Korea. During the visit, Secretary Albright presented North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il with a basketball autographed by former NBA superstar Michael Jordan. An actress playing Secretary Albright is shown presenting Kim Jong Il with the Michael Jordan basketball, painting the walls of Osama bin Laden's Afghanistan cave and turning a blind eye to suicide bombers. In one scene her skirt rips as she changes the tire of a Middle Eastern dictator's limousine. One GOP strategist said jaws dropped when the ad was first viewed. Nobody could believe Zucker thought any political organization could use this ad. It makes a point, but it's way over the top. Zucker is the producer and director of comedies such as Airplane and The Naked Gun. In 2004, Zucker, a longtime Democrat, embraced the Republican Party based on concerns he had about national security issues and voted for President George W. Bush. Developing... So where's the ad showing Cheney shaking hands with Saddam? Better yet Kim Jong Il shaking hands with Donald Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld was on the board of the company that sold North Korea the equipment to process uranium. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/