Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's paradise is becoming more and more like the Evil USA

2006-10-09 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 A good thing. There will be some blowback about
 this, interestingly enough from cafe and restaurant
 owners who feel (rightly) that it will hit them in
 the cash register, but in the latest polls over 70%
 of the people felt that it was time, so it's time.

 What I'm wondering is whether there are loopholes,
 such as I've seen in California and recently in 
 Dublin. It turns out that in both those places, 
 although smoking is banned in restaurants and bars,
 that only covers areas under the *roof* of the 
 building. So what happens is that establishments
 put tables and chairs in the adjoining alleyway
 or the area formerly used for garbage bins, and
 get to call it a smoking area. It turns into a 
 real windfall for the few establishments that can
 do this, because all those who haven't given up
 smoking flock to the place.

   
In California if you have a family run restaurant with no employees 
outside the family you can have smoking in the bar area.  We have a 
local family run restaurant with great Italian food I won't frequent as 
the only visit there was for dinner and the bar and dining room are in 
the same room.  We enjoyed the food but not the smoke.  They could also 
stand to invest in some acoustical ceiling as the room was too loud.  
And then they don't take credit cards.  They must stay in business 
because of the food quality.


 That said, it's really going to change the French
 cityscape. Smoking and smoking in cafes is so much
 a part of the French mythos that it's going to cause
 a lot of smokers to go through a *bunch* of changes.
 Not as many changes as dying, however...

   
A few years back at a local Starbucks I was sitting outside in an area 
designated no smoking.  This particular Starbucks had a large area 
around the corner for smokers.  The no smoking signs were prominently 
displayed in my area but still some guy came out of an adjacent 
restaurant, stood right in front of where I was sitting with his 
cigarette smoke drifting right into my face.  When I asked politely if 
he minded moving he launched into a tirade.  I was pretty close to 
getting into a brawl that day as I tend to up the ante in a heated 
moment.  I mentioned to the manager a couple days later how people 
ignored the no smoking sign and she who is a smoker herself replied 
some people have shit for brains.

Yup, it should be interesting to see how Europeans react to this 
especially if it spreads to other countries that don't already have such 
a rule.
 And speaking of the French and smoking, click this
 link and then scroll to the bottom of the page to 
 see a recent photo of Jean Paul Belmondo at 73. The
 dude's had some health problems in recent years, but
 has hit the gym to combat them, and to my eye he looks 
 *really* good for 73, and for the man who almost single-
 handedly formed the link in film buffs' minds between
 French men and the cigarette dangling from their lips.

 http://tinyurl.com/jnjw2

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
 France to impose smoking ban from 2007
 Sun Oct 8, 2006 1:47pm ET
 Health News

 We have decided to ban smoking in public places from February 1, 
 2007, he told RTL radio and LCI television.

 He added that bar-tabacs, discos and other such places would have 
 until January 1, 2008 at the latest to comply with the rules.

 Public places include stations, museums, government offices and 
 shops but not in the streets or private places such as houses or 
 hotel rooms. 


 Villepin added the state would take charge of one-third of the costs 
 of anti-smoking treatments, such as a patch.

 That would represent the first month of treatment, he said.

 In a report presented on Wednesday, several parliamentarians called 
 for a total ban from September 1, 2007 at the latest, without 
 exception. But a smoking ban will cause problems for the many 
 tobacco shops in France.

 Villepin declined to comment on the impact it would have on 
 government tax revenues, saying that public health considerations 
 outweighed any such fiscal impact.

 In the report, the parliamentarians said that each year between 
 2,500 and 5,800 people died of the consequences of passive smoking 
 -- inhaling the smoke of smokers. Some 66,000 smokers die each year.   
 Continued... 

 © Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.
 






   



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry's paradise is becoming more and more like the Evil USA

2006-10-09 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 [...]
  I mentioned to the manager a couple days later how people 
   
 ignored the no smoking sign and she who is a smoker herself replied 
 some people have shit for brains.
 

 You're certain she wasn't talking about you?
Doubtful as she was the one who posted the no smoking signs.  Besides I 
was making a reference to a guy who was sitting right under the no 
smoking sign and puffing away.



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