Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/15/2014 11:45 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Did you divorce her, by throwing her a *pineapple*?


>
In ancient Greece, throwing a rotten tomato was a traditional signal of 
divorce, which probably meant that the husband sucked.

>



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 7/15/2014 8:58 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

> On 7/15/2014 7:24 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>> One of the many things no one tells you about aging is that it is
>> such a nice change from being young. Ah, being young is beautiful,
>> but being old is comfortable.
> >
> If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind
to blame.
>

In ancient Greece, tossing an apple to a girl was a traditional proposal
of marriage. Catching it meant she accepted.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Let me rephrase that: /If you get into the bottom of a well or a tall 
chimney and you bang your head real hard with a hammer, when you look 
up, you can see stars, even in the middle of the day. /


http://www.snopes.com/science/well.asp
>

On 7/16/2014 10:04 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



snopes.com: Stars Visible from Well 





image 


snopes.com: Stars Visible from Well 


Can stars be viewed during the day from the bottom of a well?

View on www.snopes.com 

Preview by Yahoo



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 7/15/2014 7:24 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

>>> One of the many things no one tells you about aging is that it is
>>> such a nice change from being young. Ah, being young is
beautiful,
>>> but being old is comfortable.
>> >
>> If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to
>> blame.
> >
> In ancient Greece, tossing an apple to a girl was a traditional
> proposal of marriage. Catching it meant she accepted.
>

If you get into the bottom of a well or a tall chimney and look up, you
can see stars, even in the middle of the day.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Richard, I actually knew this! From the TV show, West Wing!
BTW, thank you, I am enjoying your What Would You Do series.



On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:44 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
On 7/16/2014 9:52 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
 One of the many things no one tells you about aging is that it is 
 such a nice change from being young. Ah, being young is beautiful, 
 but being old is comfortable.
>>> >
>>> If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to 
>>> blame.
>> >
>> In ancient Greece, tossing an apple to a girl was a traditional 
>> proposal of marriage. Catching it meant she accepted.
> >
> If you get into the bottom of a well or a tall chimney and look up, 
> you can see stars, even in the middle of the day.
>
Strawberries are the only fruits whose seeds grow on the outside.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/17/2014 9:48 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

Richard, I actually knew this! From the TV show, West Wing!
BTW, thank you, I am enjoying your What Would You Do series.

>
Thanks.  What if you woke up in the morning and you didn't know what to do?
>



On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:44 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  
wrote:



On 7/16/2014 9:52 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
 One of the many things no one tells you about aging is that it is
 such a nice change from being young. Ah, being young is beautiful,
 but being old is comfortable.
>>> >
>>> If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to
>>> blame.
>> >
>> In ancient Greece, tossing an apple to a girl was a traditional
>> proposal of marriage. Catching it meant she accepted.
> >
> If you get into the bottom of a well or a tall chimney and look up,
> you can see stars, even in the middle of the day.
>
Strawberries are the only fruits whose seeds grow on the outside.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Richard, hopefully I'd at least remember how to use the toilet (-:



On Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:03 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
On 7/17/2014 9:48 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
>Richard, I actually knew this! From the TV show, West Wing!
>BTW, thank you, I am enjoying your What Would You Do series.
>
Thanks.  What if you woke up in the morning and you didn't know what
to do?
>


>
>
>On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:44 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
>pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
> 
>
>
>  
>On 7/16/2014 9:52 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>>
> One of the many
  things no one tells you about aging is
  that it is 
> such a nice change
  from being young. Ah, being young is
  beautiful, 
> but being old is
  comfortable.
 >
 If you can smile when
  things go wrong, you have someone in
  mind to 
 blame.
>>> >
>>> In ancient Greece, tossing an
  apple to a girl was a traditional 
>>> proposal of marriage.
  Catching it meant she accepted.
>> >
>> If you get into the bottom of a
  well or a tall chimney and look up, 
>> you can see stars, even in the
  middle of the day.
>>
>Strawberries are the only fruits whose
  seeds grow on the outside.
>
>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/17/2014 10:18 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

Richard, hopefully I'd at least remember how to use the toilet (-:

>
Hopefully, but often it's the short term memory that goes before the 
long term memory goes, in which case you might have forgot what you did 
an hour ago, so you may remember what a bathroom is for from age three, 
but you may not remember what it is that you just did in there. Go figure.

>



On Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:03 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  
wrote:



On 7/17/2014 9:48 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Richard, I actually knew this! From the TV show, West Wing!
BTW, thank you, I am enjoying your What Would You Do series.

>
Thanks.  What if you woke up in the morning and you didn't know what 
to do?

>



On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:44 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com  [FairfieldLife]" 
 
 wrote:



On 7/16/2014 9:52 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
 One of the many things no one tells you about aging is that it is
 such a nice change from being young. Ah, being young is beautiful,
 but being old is comfortable.
>>> >
>>> If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to
>>> blame.
>> >
>> In ancient Greece, tossing an apple to a girl was a traditional
>> proposal of marriage. Catching it meant she accepted.
> >
> If you get into the bottom of a well or a tall chimney and look up,
> you can see stars, even in the middle of the day.
>
Strawberries are the only fruits whose seeds grow on the outside.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 8/27/2014 2:11 AM, azgrey wrote:



"...no circumstances, however dismal, will ever be considered a 
sufficient excuse for the admission of that last and saddest evidence 
of intellectual poverty, the Pun."


- /Mark Twain/


>
"All generalizations are false, including this one." /- Mark Twain/
>


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid 
bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in 
a fire, and so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

[Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

>  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> *"When you agree to meet up for a drink and the person you are meeting
> doesn't look anything like their profile picture, then THEY have to pay for
> the drink."* - Michael Strahan
>
>
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:54 AM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:
>

> Sir Pudit,
>
> Your generous offer to buy the drinks is humbly accepted. I do appreciate
> your Kindness.
>
>
*Thanks, but you forgot to post a photo of your face, so you owe me and
Rita one drink each when we get to NYC.*
>

>
> I can drink a lot.
>
>
> But I'm fun to drink with.
>
> Even a couple of women think so. But they're rare.
>
 
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

[danfriedman2002]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote : 
 "When you agree to meet up for a drink and the person you are meeting doesn't 
look anything like their profile picture, then THEY have to pay for the drink." 
- Michael Strahan






 >
 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:54 AM, danfriedman2002 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 > 
 Sir Pudit,

Your generous offer to buy the drinks is humbly accepted. I do appreciate your 
Kindness.






 >
 Thanks, but you forgot to post a photo of your face, so you owe me and Rita 
one drink each when we get to NYC. 
 >OK. 

I don't post photos. I hope Rita is one of those rare women who find me fun to 
drink with.

See you then.

Cheers,
Marky Marko

 
I can drink a lot.


But I'm fun to drink with.

Even a couple of women think so. But they're rare.





 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

[Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

>
>
>
> *"When you agree to meet up for a drink and the person you are meeting
> doesn't look anything like their profile picture, then THEY have to pay for
> the drink."* - Michael Strahan
>
> >
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:54 AM, danfriedman2002  > wrote:
> >
>
> Sir Pudit,
>
> Your generous offer to buy the drinks is humbly accepted. I do appreciate
> your Kindness.
>
> >
> *Thanks, but you forgot to post a photo of your face, so you owe me and
> Rita one drink each when we get to NYC.*
>
> >
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:14 AM, danfriedman2002 
 wrote:
>

>
> >OK.
>
> I don't post photos. I hope Rita is one of those rare women who find me
> fun to drink with.
>
> >
*You sound like a fun guy to have a drink with and so Rita might also find
you fun - one drink probably won't cause any harm. **According to what I've
read, you're quite a Dandy Dan, so I'll be keeping an eye on you though -
better bring your missus along.*

*So, I don't post photos of Rita for obvious reasons, but I can tell you
that she is so gorgeous that most men beg her to dance with them at the
Cowboy Dance Hall, and then - request a selfie with her too. Go figure.*

>

>
> See you then.
>
> Cheers,
> Marky Marko
>
>
> I can drink a lot.
>
>
> But I'm fun to drink with.
>
> Even a couple of women think so. But they're rare.
>
>
>  
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts

[danfriedman2002]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 
 
   

 "When you agree to meet up for a drink and the person you are meeting doesn't 
look anything like their profile picture, then THEY have to pay for the drink." 
- Michael Strahan


 >
 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:54 AM, danfriedman2002 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 > 
 Sir Pudit,

Your generous offer to buy the drinks is humbly accepted. I do appreciate your 
Kindness.






 >
 Thanks, but you forgot to post a photo of your face, so you owe me and Rita 
one drink each when we get to NYC.






 >
 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:14 AM, danfriedman2002 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 > 
  
 >OK. 

I don't post photos. I hope Rita is one of those rare women who find me fun to 
drink with.










 >
 You sound like a fun guy to have a drink with and so Rita might also find you 
fun - one drink probably won't cause any harm. According to what I've read, 
you're quite a Dandy Dan, so I'll be keeping an eye on you though - better 
bring your missus along.
 So then, it sounds like a sounder course of action would be to buy Rita's 
drinks all night, and you zero, since you'll need to keep your eye on me. As 
for the Wonderful Mrs Friedman, she is already on record as considering me 
REDICULOUS. Got to admire a woman's intuition.

 So, I don't post photos of Rita for obvious reasons, but I can tell you that 
she is so gorgeous that most men beg her to dance with them at the Cowboy Dance 
Hall, and then - request a selfie with her too. Go figure.

 I can REALLY DANCE. A skill my older sister transferred at about age 12. The 
single MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE!

I sing too, but no selfies...k?

 > 
 
See you then.

Cheers,
Marky Marko

 
I can drink a lot.


But I'm fun to drink with.

Even a couple of women think so. But they're rare.





 

 









 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on Ken's Burns "The War"

[Bhairitu]

Duveyoung wrote:
> Bhairitu,
>
> I agree.
>
> IMO, there is a cabal of backroom "evil rich manipulators" running
> things, and it makes perfect sense that the "follow the money" concept
> is never supported in most documentary endeavors -- too risky to the
> film-maker to snoop around in Big Finance's underwear drawer, and way
> hard to get the legal access to do so.  But, evil dictators, well,
> documentary makers CAN get the data on them.  There was a reason for
> "Deep Throat" to keep his identity hidden, cuz he was telling Woodward
> and Bernstein to follow the money, and if the money folks found out,
> POOF! goes Deepy.
>
> As long as the masses are having their attentions misdirected towards
> focal-points of evil -- Hitler the person for instance -- then the
> money is not followed, and instead the group consciousness is put upon
> the failings of one person -- NOT HIS SUPPORTERS, CREATORS, BACKERS,
> BOSSES, whatever.  The people who backed Hitler are still in business
> today -- sultan rich and Satan evil.
>
> Saddam was said to be the problem, ya see?, not the USA's obscene oil
> habit which caused the powers that be to think that they needed to
> control (own) Iraq's oil (the whole region actually) and so, suddenly,
> Saddam became the evil dictator that had to be stomped even though he
> was PUT INTO POWER BY THE USA.  His country is invaded, 500 thousand
> INNOCENT civilians get killed, and Saddam's the blame -- when largely
> speaking, we supported and allowed his crimes that we armed him for
> and encouraged him to do.  Poison gas sold to him by the USA killed
> the Kurds.  And it was that very poison gas we called "a weapon of
> mass destruction" and used as a reason for the invasion.
>
> And, get this, Saddam would still be in power right now if he hadn't
> started messing around the value of the dollar by selling his oil and
> taking euros for it -- pushing the world closer to a petro-euro
> instead of a petro-dollar.  That was Saddam's real, actual and ONLY
> mistake in the eyes of the lords of power.
>
> We prop up dictators all the time to deflect the world's attention to
> one person, one race, one ethnicity, like that.
>
> You don't have to look far for these evil types -- they're everywhere.
>  The bankers arranged for a PRIVATE COMPANY to have ALL OF AMERICA'S
> seigniorage.  The gold standard was tossed.  Income tax for the
> non-rich. BigMedia's being in bed with BigMoney assures we'll always
> have a bad guy trotted out to piss off the masses enough to get
> another war going.
>
> We won't bomb Iran until after we make sure that the masses are
> certain that our soldiers have been bombed by Iran. We won't see
> headlines about all the ways we can employ to piss off Iran enough for
> them to bomb back at us.  We won't be told -- simple as that.
>
> Pre-Pearl Harbor, we cut off Japan's oil supplies; do you think that
> pissed them off?
>
> 19 terrorists may have been all it took to make 911 happen, but what
> did it takes to get them pissed off enough to give up their lives to
> fight back?  How about hundreds of millions of people being brutalized
> daily in a thousand ways?
>
> Abu Ghraib prison -- only the small fry got indicted, but generals on
> down knew about it.
>
> Kerry lost the election -- who is following the money that Supreme
> Court Justices get?
>
> Pelosi won't try to impeach Bush -- why?  Cuz it will hurt her cash
> flow somehow -- follow the money and see what big companies are
> fluffing up her accounts.
>
> 20,000,000 Mexicans came across the border and no one noticed --
> except BigMoney which needed temporary slaves.
>
> Okay, I'm going to stop here.  Outta control again.  Can't put my
> attention on these things without risking ruining my day.
>
> Edg
>
>   
Ah, but you see that IS the reality and anything else just the 
illusion.  Perhaps more people need their days ruined so things will 
change.  The money people are like slight-of-hand magicians. :)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on Ken's Burns "The War"

[Vaj]

On Sep 28, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Duveyoung wrote:


Bhairitu,

I agree.

IMO, there is a cabal of backroom "evil rich manipulators" running
things, and it makes perfect sense that the "follow the money" concept
is never supported in most documentary endeavors -- too risky to the
film-maker to snoop around in Big Finance's underwear drawer, and way
hard to get the legal access to do so. But, evil dictators, well,
documentary makers CAN get the data on them. There was a reason for
"Deep Throat" to keep his identity hidden, cuz he was telling Woodward
and Bernstein to follow the money, and if the money folks found out,
POOF! goes Deepy.



It's unrealistic to expect a Ken Burn's genre documentary to cover  
such intrigue and conspiracy theory material. You'll have to wait  
instead for Oliver Stone's version "The War That Greed Built", co- 
written with Alex Jones.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on Ken's Burns "The War"

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>   In fact the impression I got was that 
>   
>> the war was more a failed exercise in trying to
>> reduce the world's population dramatically.  And there
>> is a section on how they got people in the US to buy
>> bonds to finance the war but no answer as to who made 
>> all the money off the weapons sales.  That should be
>> part of the story too.
>> 
>
> Then it would be a very different documentary
> with a whole different purpose and approach.
>   
But any thinking person watching the documentary will begin to ponder 
how the madmen came to power.  They didn't just do it by themselves.  
Some folks here ought to be asking how MMY became so big too.
>   
>> And isn't it interesting at a time when there is much
>> saber rattling over Iran such a documentary should come
>> out?
>> 
>
> No. They started working on it six years ago.
>   
Yes but that was back in the "Saving Private Ryan", "Band of Brothers" 
and other WWII stuff came out.  What I am saying is that having it on 
now sort of may glorify the idea of war to people but not if people 
watch it since there is a lot of things (as Burn's mentioned last night 
on Bill Maher's show) that people were reluctant to talk about until now.

Maher and Burns talked about "sacrifice" last night and how we've not 
"sacrificed" anything for Iraq.  Well first off ask the families who've 
lost loved ones during the Iraqi conquest about that.  Secondly my reply 
is we shouldn't be making any sacrifice as there shouldn't be any war to 
sacrifice for.  That's just the scheme of the crooks in the White House 
and of course their backers.  They're the ones who should be 
sacrificed.  Also we must keep in mind as was pointed out in episode two 
of the series that coming out of a depression WWII was like a big WPA 
project and many jobs opened up for the unemployed.  And also it will be 
interesting to see if they also mention how unemployment went on the 
rise again after the war when those jobs went away.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on Ken's Burns "The War"

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> authfriend wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>>   
>>>   In fact the impression I got was that 
>>>   
>>>   
 the war was more a failed exercise in trying to
 reduce the world's population dramatically.  And there
 is a section on how they got people in the US to buy
 bonds to finance the war but no answer as to who made 
 all the money off the weapons sales.  That should be
 part of the story too.
 
 
>>> Then it would be a very different documentary
>>> with a whole different purpose and approach.
>>>   
>>>   
>> But any thinking person watching the documentary will begin
>> to ponder how the madmen came to power.  They didn't just do
>> it by themselves.
>> 
>
> If you made a documentary that covered every
> single aspect of World War II, it would run
> every week for at least a year.
>
>   
>> Some folks here ought to be asking how MMY became so big too.
>> 
>
> LOL!! You got a conspiracy theory for that as well?
Then we have the "Mother of All Conspiracy Theories" that 19 Arabs armed 
with boxcutters started WWIII.  That one is a doozy!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts and Chai in the Morning

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

mooost definately! Chai twice a day. Indian black tea boiled in half water, 
half milk, add tea spices and sugar to taste.T relaxing.
  From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 3:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts and Chai in the Morning
   
    Hi jr. - I drink Oregon Chai (available everywhere, but best price at 
TraderJoe's) - It is a liquid concentrate, 1/2 milk, 1/2 Chai, but you can use 
skim or that "de-lactosed" stuff. Been into it for over ten years. They shorted 
the spices about seven years ago, but I no longer notice. Go Niners!! Now that 
I no longer subsidize their stadium, I am again a fan. Harbaugh can take a 
hike. After Stanford, it is too scary for him, dealing with adults. PS More 
rain on Saturday!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Good mornin' to ya'll,
It's an overcast day out here in my neck of the woods, a nice respite from the 
needed rain we had last Thursday and Friday
How many of you have tried a packaged chai in the morning?  I bought two boxes 
of this cardamon chai at a Muslim Indian grocery store in Berkeley, CA last 
week.  The chai is just a good as the one you'd get at an Indian restaurant.
I couldn't find this brand at Safeway or other supermarket in my neighborhood.  
But there is a small Indian grocery store at the Fillmore District which sells 
the same product...
For the naysayers here, you should know that Lindsay Lohan has also taken up 
TM.  That's probably understandable since she has worked for Oprah Winfrey, an 
ardent TMer.  I saw this from a video clip of Ellen Degeneris Show last night.  
She too is a meditatorThere appears to be a tacit connection here with the 
TMO...
It was nice to see the Raiders win a football game last Thursday.  They might 
win another game or two.  But in the end, they would still have a losing 
season...
This afternoon the 49ers take on RG3 and the Redskins.  The Niners are favored 
to win.  They could probably make the playoffs.  But there is still a lingering 
rumor that Coach Harbaugh might jump ship to another team after the season is 
over...
Meanwhile, a violin player is playing a blissful tune on the radio...

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts Inspired By Living In Holland 1

[Bhairitu]

People concerned about other people who stand out are usually doing so 
because they feel inferior and jealous that they haven't been that 
successful or famous in life.  So they like to "play Buddha" and go 
around hammering down nails sticking out.  OTOH, fame often just happens 
to people.  They're going along doing something they enjoy and suddenly 
for some reason the limelight gets shined of them, maybe for a minute or 
maybe for a lifetime.  For every one of those people there will be a 
thousand or so others who are very good at what they're doing but not 
become famous doing so.  And fame is a double edged sword because you 
wind up living in a fish bowl with the whole world watching.  A lot of 
people wouldn't want that.  But they usually want the second factor 
though: "fortune."

Socialism to an extent has been in this country from the beginning and 
used to maintain the commons.  The money addicts have been wanting to do 
away with it so they could own and charge for the commons.  This 
struggle has been going on for the last two centuries.  Let's not let 
the money addicts win.

On 01/24/2011 05:53 AM, seekliberation wrote:
> this idea also reinforces why i've said socialism can work, but not here in 
> America.  In Denmark, a garbage man is happy to be a garbage man, and no one 
> gives him any shit for having a lower class job, there is no embarrasment.  
> Meanwhile, their doctors don't expect the world to fall at their feet because 
> of their education.  They all pay higher taxes, and are taken care of in 
> return.
>
> Here in America it wouldn't work.  Working class people are ashamed to be 
> working class, and a lot of white collared workers tend towards arrogance 
> towards the lower classes.  I remember this psychological process starting 
> around the 2nd or 3rd grade.  By the time I was in high school, it was a bona 
> fide rat race to get one up on everyone else in some way shape or form.
>
> seekliberation
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>> A friend of mine who has been living in the Netherlands
>> for some years came up with an insight a few months ago
>> over dinner that I thought 1) nailed an interesting
>> part of the Dutch zeitgeist, 2) pointed out differences
>> between that national zeitgeist and that of the US, and
>> 3) has some interesting parallels to spirituality.
>>
>> She said, "One thing you'll learn about the Dutch is
>> that they have a huge reluctance -- almost a fear -- of
>> 'standing out.' They long for anonymity, to 'blend in.'
>> You won't often finding them wanting to be 'special.'"
>> I've been watching the behavior of folks here ever since,
>> and I think she's onto something.
>>
>> To some extent this might be a leftover group mindset
>> from WWII. Seeing Paul Verhoeven's "Soldier Of Orange"
>> certainly brings up that possibility. There are still
>> generations of Dutch alive who remember the Occupation
>> years, and the fear of being denounced to the authorities
>> *by one's own neighbors* for "standing out." I don't know
>> yet enough about Dutch history to know whether this
>> tendency goes back further.
>>
>> But it's interesting to compare this mindset to America,
>> and the almost pathological desire of many of its citizens
>> *to* "stand out," to become famous, to "have their fifteen
>> minutes of fame." The American media are *all about* being
>> "special." The role model of success presented to the
>> youth of America when growing up is to become "special,"
>> and their heroes tend to be those who have gotten them-
>> selves recognized as "special" -- rock stars, rap stars,
>> movie stars, pop singers, self-promoting politicians,
>> billionaires, etc.
>>
>> Where this segues into musings about spirituality for me
>> is that the spiritual trips or traditions I have run into
>> in my life tend to fall into one of two camps. First --
>> and most common -- are the spiritual trips that try to
>> convince their followers that they're "special" because
>> they believe the trip's dogma and/or are members of its
>> oh-so-elite ranks. Far less common are spiritual trips
>> in which you can find none of this appeal to "special-
>> ness," and whose dogma *and* day-to-day walking their
>> talk are more about being an ordinary human being and
>> realizing that achieving that humble self acceptance
>> is pretty much as rare and as "special" as one could
>> possibly get.
>>
>> In the Castanedan sense, longing for and striving for
>> "specialness" is very accessible. It opens one up to
>> those who would manipulate that longing for their own
>> reasons. No one is more manipulatable than the person
>> who has gotten so used to being told how special and
>> unique and wonderful they are by their gurus or their
>> fellow students; it is in a very real sense an addiction.
>> But those who just delight in being "one of the crowd,"
>> without any desire or need to stand out...they're not
>> only more inaccessible, they're often the one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the "You're angry" / "No, I'm not" thang

[Peter]

--- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On the other hand, the process of gaining
> enlightenment is not mumbo 
> > jumbo, and particularly the majority of the
> members here, who have 
> > been meditating in this life for decades, the
> physiology is 
> > conditioned to accept enlightenment already, so
> what is stopping us, 
> > from this really very normal experience?
> > 
> > Through seeking enlightenment so long, many of us
> think that seeking 
> > is a normal state; some progress, a setback, a
> flashy experience, 
> > and then more of the same. However, it is just as
> easy to 'break on 
> > through to the other side...'. And the reward is
> well worth it! 
>  
> I think the biggest hurdle is the ego, which thinks
> *it's* the thing
> that awakens. Most of the assholiness on FFL is true
> believers of one
> sect bashing the true believers of another. I think
> those who engage
> in "my guru/lineage can beat up your guru/lineage"
> are the addicts
> that Tom T's recent post referred to. They're
> addicted to the ideas
> and dogmas of enlightenment. Teachings can point to
> truth, but you
> have to be vigilant against falling into the
> delusional mind-trap that
> teachings *are* truth. The finger pointing at the
> moon is not the
> moon; the moon is not made of finger.
> 
> Needless to say, these words and ideas are not
> truth, and it's the
> force of my own ego that drives me to post them.
> 
> Alex

And on top of it all, why are you so rageful that
you're giving me the finger? Pointing at the moon, ha!
;-)



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the "You're angry" / "No, I'm not" thang

[Peter]

--- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> A few weeks ago, Tom Pall genuinely apologized for
> one of his posts to Dr Pete, 
> spontaneously and almost immediately after sending
> it. 

You know, I didn't catch that post and I'm sorry I
didn't see it.  I also should apologize for Tom for
making a wise-ass crack at his expense. It was funny,
but at his expense. So, perhaps time to forgive all
around. 


> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This issue of one or more persons (sometimes the 
> > majority of active posters) perceiving one partic-
> > ular poster as consistently angry, and abusive
> > because of that anger, suddenly "clicked" for me
> > this afternoon.  I had known that it reminded me
> > of something, but I had not been able to figure 
> > out *what* it reminded me of.
> > 
> > Bingo!  Got it.  It reminded me of visiting
> America
> > recently, my first trip back in over two and a
> half
> > years.
> > 
> > Unless you've lived *outside* the country for a
> while,
> > and are just re-entering it, you really aren't
> going
> > to get (or believe) what I'm saying, and in fact
> you'll
> > get angry about it, and say to yourself, "He's
> full of
> > shit."  I know this going in, because that's the
> very
> > phenomenon I'm talking about.
> > 
> > I would say that MOST (and by "MOST" I mean 80-90%
> of
> > the people I interacted with during my week in
> America
> > were ANGRY.  The *first* thing that hits you, if
> you've
> > been away for a while is the level of F E A R in
> the 
> > air.  Almost everyone is afraid, all the time. 
> And if
> > you mention this perception to them, they'll tell
> you
> > they're not.  And THEN they'll get angry at you
> for
> > having noticed that they're afraid.  And THEN
> they'll
> > deny that they're angry.
> > 
> > It's just the weirdest thing.  Why I think it
> relates
> > to issues here on FFL is that a number of the
> posters
> > whom a lot of people agree are out-of-control
> angry
> > DENY that they're angry.  Well, I don't think that
> they
> > KNOW consciously that they're angry.  Anger is
> their
> > *baseline* state, the thing they settle back
> *down* to
> > and "relax" into when their out-of-control moments
> settle
> > down.  Anger is so much a part of their lives, so
> much
> > the "background soundtrack" of those lives, that
> they
> > think it's normal.  So they get even angrier when
> some-
> > one points out that they're angry, because they
> don't
> > want to admit that they're angry all the time.
> > 
> > Sadly, this is my (and a lot of Europeans') view
> of
> > America and Americans at this time.  They're so
> afraid
> > all the time that it makes them angry almost all
> the
> > time.  But they cannot admit either the anger or
> the
> > fear to themselves because that would
> be...uh...like
> > Un-American or something.  :-)
> > 
> > And even more sadly, that is the scenario in and
> around
> > a lot of spiritual traditions in which people have
> been
> > pursuing enlightenment for 20-30 years with no
> real sign of
> > progress.  They can't really *admit* the lack of
> progress,
> > because that would be "off the program" and would
> make it
> > sound like they were doubting the all-holy teacher
> and
> > tradition, but they're very *aware* of their own
> lack
> > of progress.  ESPECIALLY if someone comes around
> and
> > talks about a basically normal, everyday
> experience of
> > enlightenment, something that really *should* be
> normal
> > and everyday in a real happening tradition.  The
> people 
> > hearing this often get really, really, really,
> really 
> > PISSED OFF. 
> > 
> > And in my opinion that's what you're feeling
> around FFL
> > right now.
> > 
> > This is just my opinion, and I'm just throwing it
> out there 
> > for other people to bounce off of.  I'm not going
> to get
> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the "You're angry" / "No, I'm not" thang

[Vaj]

On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:46 AM, braaahmaan wrote:Those proclaiming great advaida-speak in one post, then totally contradicting it in the next post, is questionable.  Yes, but Brahman is inclusive of opposite doncha know! :-/





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the "You're angry" / "No, I'm not" thang

[Peter]

--- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > A few weeks ago, Tom Pall genuinely apologized
> for
> > > one of his posts to Dr Pete, 
> > > spontaneously and almost immediately after
> sending
> > > it. 
> > 
> > You know, I didn't catch that post and I'm sorry I
> > didn't see it.  I also should apologize for Tom
> for
> > making a wise-ass crack at his expense. It was
> funny,
> > but at his expense. So, perhaps time to forgive
> all
> > around. 
> 
> But you didn't and you haven't and you have no
> intention to.  Perhaps
> you can apogize in Rick's next weekly FFL group
> incarnation.
> Time to have FFL deleted and every attempt Rick
> makes of reviving look
> like the Myth of Sysiphys. 

Tom, I apologize to you for the emotional pain my was
ass quip created in you. If I had known it was going
to bother you so much, I never would have said it. You
keep on dragging this thing out. Akasha and I go at it
for a while and then we both just give up. We don't
try to detroy everything around us.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the "You're angry" / "No, I'm not" thang

[Vaj]

On Dec 20, 2005, at 11:20 AM, sparaig wrote:"Immanent?"  Please clarify what you mean by calling it "immanent." Try "imminent". As in "about to happen."?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the "You're angry" / "No, I'm not" thang

[Rick Archer]

on 12/20/05 12:01 PM, L B Shriver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Thanks- The really interesting thing I see too are the kids I know
>> these days. Very grounded and centered for the most part, as if
>> someone saw this coming and prepared for it...
> 
> 
> 
> I don't get around much these days, but there are a lot like that in
> Fairfield.

You should have seen 15-year-old Devala Rees read two poems at his
step-dad's (Steve Briggs') presentation last night. Extraordinarily profound
clear deep insights and writing. That kid is going places.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the "You're angry" / "No, I'm not" thang

[Vaj]

On Dec 20, 2005, at 1:12 PM, L B Shriver wrote:More blatant recent developments regarding fraudulent elections and the subversions of  our civil liberties are merely the more recent and obvious indicators of corporate fascism. Even that idea's been around a long time:"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. "Franklin D. Roosevelt 





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