Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unfoldments of Brahman
On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Rory Goff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rory: Would you be able to share some here on the course and what's been said? When I was attending, a very large number of course participants were describing Unity and at least some of the paradoxical qualities of Brahman, many on an ongoing basis. I personally have been very pleased with their ability to recognize "me". :-) Many of them still seemed to be focussed on the particle- or experiencer-end of the equation, not overtly recognizing their identity with the One Mind whose simple thoughts *create* those experiences. I believe a great many are at the crux-point, which MMY has been describing as the Lamp at the Door (between the Absolute and Relative). I always loved that metaphor, which comes from ancient collections of sayings preserved in the Sutras of Nyaya, the dehlidipa (dehalIdIpa ?), the light of the threshold which illuminates two-things-at-once. I haven't attended the conferences directly with MMY lately, but I am told he is now elaborating on what I've called the Dark Night of the Soul, which he apparently is calling Durgatamas. He has reportedly lately been saying one has to go through Hell (the undivinized relative) to get to Heaven, wherein the relative (chandas) becomes lit with and identical to consciousness (rishi), turning Durgatamas into Madhachandas -- which cardemeister could translate better than I, but appears to be the honey-gold Heart- reality of the "absolute" relative, the Solar Angel or Brahma(n). It is a lot of fun to see him embracing and describing stuff I had to make up words for, or felt I had to go foraging into other traditions to find concepts for.This is great stuff. Thanks for sharing this. In my practice tradition we call it "The Mind of Near Black Attainment". That's the first time though I'd heard of Durgatamas. Even the Kabbalist's have methods for arriving across the abyss, into the lead-blackness of binah, and they descend into daath/the abyss and emerge (hopefully) on the "other side". The Gnostic "IAO" can also be seen as Isis-Apophis-Osiris, where this is a formula concealing easy practice (Isis), death-hell-dark night and reemergence (Apophis, the Destroyer), transformation, arising transfiguration/resurrection (Osiris, Jesus, etc). For me one of the best parts of the course was and has been realizing on a much more profound level the *utter* spontaneity of the so-called siddhis (which I had/have no conscious attention on or desire for) arising as simple thoughts/profound fulfillments from the One Mind enjoying its own Being -- and the apparent science behind the precise *sequence* of those apparently-spontaneous thoughts. But better even than that is all the Enlightened company I am getting -- that's what is turning this place into Heaven on Earth :-) __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unfoldments of Brahman
On Oct 12, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Rory Goff wrote:Yes! Then there's what I would call "another" blackness (appearing for me after Dark Night/Durgatamas, but perhaps the same from another vantage point), appearing as a maternal velvety black, from which emerge the unfoldments of prakriti...A course participant was describing this early on in the course, and MMY was giving the sequence, and pointing out the velvety-grainy texture as being the particles of creation, of *memory* ... which while exactly the sequence in which all that unfolded for me (and some others) many years ago, I had never thought to look at as memory...meanwhile I was remembering all of this *lol* and also (over the whole course) experiencing the unfoldments of prakriti *again* from a whole new clarity/profundity, as the result of my innocent ordinary attention on my particle/devatas... Anyway, a lot of fun! :-) The mechanics of Dark Night are a long and old tradition in both the Buddhist and Hindu tantras which is hidden, encoded in the Twilight Language through various poetic metaphors, most notably the infamous "Shiva becomes Shava without Shakti." On one level it hints that kundalini must be awakened, but on a hidden level it is referring to Shavasana, the Corpse Pose, as the greatest of asanas and working with this position is a central part of "learning to die, die deeper." It turns out Shavasana has deeper variations which are instructed to students when they're ready, ready to die into the gap completely. Therefore one becomes shava, the corpse, is killed by kundalini and then resurrected, to become Shiva. Shava becomes Shiva through Shakti and Shavasana. The inner practices of shavasana are the sadhanas of this death. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unfoldments of Brahman
Rory, thanks for the reports! They're great fun to read and have that subtle impact on consciousness deep, deep down. -Peter --- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! Then there's what I would call another blackness (appearing for me after Dark Night/Durgatamas, but perhaps the same from another vantage point), appearing as a maternal velvety black, from which emerge the unfoldments of prakriti...A course participant was describing this early on in the course, and MMY was giving the sequence, and pointing out the velvety-grainy texture as being the particles of creation, of *memory* ... which while exactly the sequence in which all that unfolded for me (and some others) many years ago, I had never thought to look at as memory...meanwhile I was remembering all of this *lol* and also (over the whole course) experiencing the unfoldments of prakriti *again* from a whole new clarity/profundity, as the result of my innocent ordinary attention on my particle/devatas... Anyway, a lot of fun! :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unfoldments of Brahman
--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a discussion in Boppard, 1982, I believe Maharishi touched upon this theme for the first time saying that to be established in Brahman, all of Nature must be lived. All that which is Light and all that which is Dark must be experienced. There where no further questions. I think the majority listening was in some kind of shock hearing this, as Maharishi always emphatized identification with lightness, positivity. *lol* Yes. That would have been nice to hear. Interesting timing, 1982 was when I woke up through that. Not expecting it, it came as quite a shock when all the Unity died into That ... But I expect MMY could have said it right to my face, and I wouldn't have heard. It was just too big to get my head around...:-) That consciousness projected into all aspects of objectivity/subjectivity has so, so many hooks of attachment. It all has to be eaten by Brahman; total regeneration from the most tamasic to the most sattvic. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unfoldments of Brahman
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yeah, the pathology of the TMO in a nutshell. Have profound experiences (like the Absolute having a personality!) and you are attacked and driven into silence. How profound can the experiences be if the person having them is so bruised by a few negative comments that he feels he has to withdraw into silence? I take them at face value. Why would someone's reactions to negative comments somehow negate or diminish such experiences? How do we know said parties are bruised and are wimpy-wimps because they withdraw into silence. When someone characterizes your experience as sh*t why would anyone speak about them again? Sharing experiences is not a debate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unfoldments of Brahman
Fantastic. Thanks for sharing that. It make me surprised more haven't showed, if not at least as a touchstone for their own growth. I don't know know where it's colder in the winter, Maine or Iowa, but it sounds like the hearts there will keep you plenty warm. Congrats on your "new" home.Best,-VajOn Oct 11, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Rory Goff wrote:Dear Vaj, Yes, I don't think it is my place to give details of the course, but I will say that being on it was (and is) immensely freeing, and confirmed the "program" I have been spontaneously practicing over the last 24 years or so, when I awoke and left the Dome. Indeeed, it confirmed my whole Being, as I realized on ever deeper levels that obeying mySelf *is* and always has been obeying MMY, and vice versa (the mula mantra value, and all that). Returning to the Dome was so beautiful -- I left because everything was the same, so why work in someone else's factory? When I returned, I found that it was *my* factory, a kind of huge amplifier or particle accelerator manifesting on the outer what I had been practicing on the inner since awakening. Appreciating the Absolute- me collapsing again and again into the particle-mes, to experience the profound effects of my own simple, ordinary thoughts from the level of my own devatas/devotees creating ever richer fabrics of creation, and all of it appreciated by the course participants and commented on by MMY...wow. A great many of Us are waking up (and more) here now. Heaven on Earth is evidently here now, and though some of Us are still overwhelmed by the ordinary perfect supernal beauty, our "I"s are adjusting. If anyone really wants to "get Enlightened" in this lifetime, and feels any pull to come here, I heartily urge them to drop whatever they're doing and take advantage of this opportunity. It doesn't come along every lifetime, and I don't know how long the window will remain open. On the other hand, if their Selves tell them otherwise, that's perfect too :-) Rena and I are truly Home here, and are considering selling the house in Maine by next spring. Love, Light Laughter always and always, R. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unfoldments of Brahman
--- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Hi akasha. Thanks for the questions. Maharishi is my Guru Dev; he is my true I and knows me better than I know myself. He created me, he sustains me, he destroys me. I attended the course for two weeks while this Understanding was driven home deeper and deeper every day. Without my saying a word, my (his) every thought, word and experience was commented upon, verified, and deepened by him. The intimate play between the Wholeness and the particle is heart-breaking in its innocence and simple splendor. His love and grace are boundless; in knowing him even to whatever small degree I do, I am exalted and humbled beyond measure. And all of this is perfectly ordinary. I have posted this material here only to clarify and correct some of the finer details of the unfoldment of Brahman I gave here last year. I am not interested in debating or discussing them particularly. They were simply some loose ends that had to be tied up. All glory to Guru Dev :-) Guarantee you that MMY would scream you out of the room if you claimed that shit in his presence. Lawson, you are one jealous mofo. Maybe cause Rory managed say more, inspire more, in one post than you have in over 10,000. lurk Yeah, the pathology of the TMO in a nutshell. Have profound experiences (like the Absolute having a personality!) and you are attacked and driven into silence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
