Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!





on 9/11/06 2:58 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure Shemp, sometimes I feel a personal Guru 
 might be
 necessary and sometimes not! Why is it though, Shemp, 
 all well
 known
 Saintshad Gurus?
 
 Amma and Ramana Maharshi didnt.
 
 and therefore you don't!?! I assume. How do you even know 
 they're
 saints?.
 
 Im a lot more sure about it than I am that MMY is one.
 
 Whoaand what is your *criterion* for such an 
 analysis?

Dictionary definition: In general, the term Saint refers to someone who is exceptionally virtuous and holy. It can be applied to both the living and the dead and is an acceptable term in most of the world's popular religions. The Saint is held up by the community as an example of how we all should act, and his or her life story is usually recorded for the edification of future generations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint

 Subjective 'hunch', OK, that's good enough. Of course we 
 live and die with the decisions we make, I personally don't know. The 
 real question is however whether or not one needs a personal Guru for 
 final illumination...

I agree with you that its usually very helpful. But I was citing exceptions. Another is Ananda Moi Ma. And even among ordinary people here in FF, many are waking up without having seen a guru in decades. Unless you count their awakened friends as gurus.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!





on 9/11/06 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure Shemp, sometimes I feel a personal Guru might be 
 necessary and sometimes not! Why is it though, Shemp, all well known 
 Saintshad Gurus?

Amma and Ramana Maharshi didnt.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!





on 9/11/06 2:18 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
 , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 on 9/11/06 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I'm not sure Shemp, sometimes I feel a personal Guru might be
 necessary and sometimes not! Why is it though, Shemp, all well 
 known
 Saintshad Gurus?
 
 Amma and Ramana Maharshi didnt.
 
 and therefore you don't!?! I assume. How do you even know they're 
 saints?.

Im a lot more sure about it than I am that MMY is one.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!





on 9/11/06 4:24 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 and therefore you don't!?! I assume. How do you even know
 they're
 saints?.
 
 Im a lot more sure about it than I am that MMY is one.
 
 Even Amma has said that MMY is a great meditation teacher and that the
 TM is a very effective technique.

I agree with both of those points. That doesnt make him a saint. She also said that charging money for meditation is like a mother charging her child for breast milk.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why TM is Yoga/lite for modernity..and why that's OK!

2006-09-11 Thread Peter


--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 9/11/06 4:24 PM, johnlasher20002000 at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   and therefore you don't!?!  I
 assume. How do you even know
   they're
   saints?.
   
   I¹m a lot more sure about it than I am that
 MMY is one.
   
   Even Amma has said that MMY is a great
 meditation teacher and that the
   TM is a very effective technique.
  
 I agree with both of those points. That doesn¹t make
 him a saint. She also
 said that charging money for meditation is like a
 mother charging her child
 for breast milk.

And it's about time those unappreciative brats started
paying up!




 


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