Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
--- peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > off_world_beings > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "peterklutz" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > off_world_beings > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > merciful snip > > > > > > I don't think much of Jyotish, like a few > things Maharishi > > does, > > > > but > > > > > > I keep my mind open to being changed on > the topic. > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever had a Maharishi Jyotish made > for yourself? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Huh? you lost me there bud. Whats the > question? > > > > > > > > > > Do you have experience to back up what you state > - or is your > > keyboard > > > just full of shit?>>> > > > > > > What a pompous ignorant ass. > > You got that the wrong way around, you are the PIA - > it's your > keyboard that is full of shit. Hey! I thought you guys were on the same side, so to speak? > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/29/05 8:25 AM, ranigdv at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From your posting I understand you were present at to their > conversation. Obviously not. > Do you remember what Maharishi said to Bob? Not in detail, but Bob reported on these conversations in some detail during several meetings in the dome, transcripts of which were posted here. I didn't say that I knew for a fact that M wasn't overly enthused about this project. I just said that it was my feeling that he agreed to it largely in response to Bob's enthusiasm. That he wouldn't have pushed it from his side. Of course I may be wrong. It was just my impression. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:40 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Unless Purusha/MD have to leave North Carolina. > > > > That's clearly a possibility...I doubt if those folks in Boone used > to living in real wood SthapathyaVed housing are going to be crazy > about living in metal boxes. True, but they have lived in worse (Livingston Manor, India) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:27 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> > Rick, did you just say we did 3000 posts in a month? Well the most > prolific poster to hit these pages just showed up again. > > lurk >> Yes, Ron, but we did it without him. Or are you referring to Rudra Joe? He posts a lot, but most of his posts are substantive. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
It's a freaking house of cards based on an illusion all created by the mind. MMY is not even a good illusionist. In fact the worlds best illusionist worked for him and died for him, and so I would expect MMY to excercise some slight of hand, or at least be extremely aware of the value of prestidigitation. Those who believe anything MMY says at face value are quite frankly, dopes. That would prolly go for any word out of his mouth and for any action of his at all. (including the mantras mantras mantras man man manm anmtraz). Nonetheless, I bet the sat yuga window opens and 144,000 hats fly out, and leave a lot of messed up hair. If not, baby don't cry I hope you keep your head up even when the roads hard never let up... (pac) - Original Message - From: Bob Brigante To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> on 3/28/05 11:19 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote:> > > The reason why the cover story about the pundits' parents being> > afraid of their coming to America is being promoted is to keep TM> > mgmt from looking stupid, but it's not going to work. They were> > stupid not to have checked feasibility of visas (with a small group> > of 25 or so) before committing to constuction on a $4.5 million> > facility not contiguous with the current MUM campus (so that it would> > be impractical to use it for current MUM student housing without a> > cumbersome and expensive shuttle system -- anyway, MUM only has> > about 325 students in Fairfield and has no need for more housing).> > > Unless Purusha/MD have to leave North Carolina.That's clearly a possibility...I doubt if those folks in Boone used to living in real wood SthapathyaVed housing are going to be crazy about living in metal boxes. Also it's just about a guaranteed fight with Jefferson County over payment of taxes -- Purusha/MD were forced to pay property tax in N. Carolina after they lost their appeal to the N.C. Supreme Court, and I doubt if they can get away with not paying in V. City, but they'll certainly try. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:19 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The reason why the cover story about the pundits' parents being > afraid of their coming to America is being promoted is to keep TM > mgmt from looking stupid, but it's not going to work. They were > stupid not to have checked feasibility of visas (with a small group > of 25 or so) before committing to constuction on a $4.5 million > facility not contiguous with the current MUM campus (so that it would > be impractical to use it for current MUM student housing without a > cumbersome and expensive shuttle system -- anyway, MUM only has > about 325 students in Fairfield and has no need for more housing). > Unless Purusha/MD have to leave North Carolina. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City Because he's a total loser. He's merely just what Maharishi taught him and therefore nothing at all. There's two types of spiritual aspirants. Those who stop when they find a good answer, and who then market it, and those who stop at nothing, sell nothing, and search for the truth only. You decide which one you think he is. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City on 3/28/05 7:13 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -I saw him and Dwivedi when that dipshit and uncreative pundit Deepak came with them at the start of the Rasayana thing at MIU. I didn't get much from them but then again I was sitting in Purusha. thWhy do you dislike Deepak so? To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
> > Lots of people can't stand his arrogance -- the article in the > October 1995 issue of Esquire magazine says it better than I could: > > Brown, Chip. 1995. > "Deepak Chopra Has (Sniff) a Cold." Esquire (Oct) 118. > > (online if you have access to Lexis-Nexus or Infotrak) > > > Do you have the URL? My friend just wrote me about the pundit houses- he said the houses look nice but too bad the indians will destroy them once they get there, but probably they wont get there anyway __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City on 3/28/05 7:13 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -I saw him and Dwivedi when that dipshit and uncreative pundit Deepak came with them at the start of the Rasayana thing at MIU. I didn't get much from them but then again I was sitting in Purusha. th Why do you dislike Deepak so? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Mexico is part of North America. Sal On Mar 28, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: but that could have been tried as an alternative that would at least still have pundits in North America (or close, in the case of Mexico).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
What is really upsetting to me is when the TMO was first "bringing out the knowledge of Ayurved", one of the carrots was that you could go into poor areas, relieve suffering and create health because it was so inexpensive. Relieve the suffering of the poor. I was so happy to hear that. I spend a lot of time around poor people who suffer deeply. So knowing what I know and knowing how it was all turned into a yuppie money-making scheme makes me want to cry.Who knows, maybe they are going into the black hole of Calcutta and helping relieve suffering--but I'm sure we would have heard if that was ever the case.-Ah Vaj, I just had to quit because my boss told me I had to be a whip cracker on a nigger. I was insulted that he had made the mistake to think I was his voice and not actually his chef. What a fucking dork. You just don't get wise bosses. Sometimes you just have to say to them like I said, this job is boring, it's not the best I ever had, and I don't need it. A few years back I had stopped TM since doing a month CCP in 92. Then I decided I wanted to do something for all the poor people right then in New Orleans. I called the TM center and asked them for flyers and to see hw I could help the inner city. I had grand notions of passing out flyers in the projects and so on, and then guess what $2,500 bucks raise in price. I was like, no fucking way! then every other hare brained scheme ever. Talk about not appreciating the hired help. What a dork. Not the best religion I ever had, it's boring (no bhakti) and I don't need it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
So you were a student of his? He was way cool. I saw him in Maharishi Nagarand he had a wonderful vibe about him.-I saw him and Dwivedi when that dipshit and uncreative pundit Deepak came with them at the start of the Rasayana thing at MIU. I didn't get much from them but then again I was sitting in Purusha. th To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Dude, you're in the know. That is fucking (sorry Ken) great! - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote:> You keep dropping these interesting tidbits. How do you know Balraj > made him> promise that?Honestly, I figured it was old news.How did I know? Balraj takes his own students.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 1:07 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 3/28/05 12:39 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> If I lived in Vedic City I'd be very pleased to have a mayor like Bob >>> - someone who knowingly fights against the oods just because it's the >>> right thing to do. >>> >> I agree. I think Bob's done an amazing job organizing this. Every >> "spiritual" person in FF, regardless of their relationship to the > TMO, wants >> this to happen. But people are understandably skeptical that it will. > > ..which is why people need to keep their spirits high and try even > harder. > Try even harder to what? Give more money? That's the only thing people have been asked to do, besides help prepare the housing for immanent occupation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 12:39 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I lived in Vedic City I'd be very pleased to have a mayor like Bob > - someone who knowingly fights against the oods just because it's the > right thing to do. > I agree. I think Bob's done an amazing job organizing this. Every "spiritual" person in FF, regardless of their relationship to the TMO, wants this to happen. But people are understandably skeptical that it will. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 1:26 PM, gullible fool wrote: > I realize theyre not exactly the best at keeping > people up to date. Have you been in contact with them > by phone and heard otherwise? I heard somewhere that it was moved to September. I will be hearing back soon and post it for all. -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
I'm on the Yogi Karve mailing list, and last I heard, he was coming to DC April 15th. http://www.universalvisionsociety.org/tourschedule.html I realize theyre not exactly the best at keeping people up to date. Have you been in contact with them by phone and heard otherwise? --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > I agree with everything you said. I just have a > feeling that bringing > > pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's > priority list. He mainly > > agreed > > to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic. > > One thing worth considering is that MMY is > consulting with someone--I > am thinking of Yogi Karve. He has consulted with him > in the past and > has declared him a "Sat Purush". > > Yogi Karve has also cancelled plans to travel here > until September (he > was supposed to have been here by now). > > -V. > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > So you were a student of his? He was way cool. I saw him in Maharishi > Nagar > and he had a wonderful vibe about him. No I'm not...but it is high on my "if I could do anything" list. What is really upsetting to me is when the TMO was first "bringing out the knowledge of Ayurved", one of the carrots was that you could go into poor areas, relieve suffering and create health because it was so inexpensive. Relieve the suffering of the poor. I was so happy to hear that. I spend a lot of time around poor people who suffer deeply. So knowing what I know and knowing how it was all turned into a yuppie money-making scheme makes me want to cry. Who knows, maybe they are going into the black hole of Calcutta and helping relieve suffering--but I'm sure we would have heard if that was ever the case. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:53 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > >> You keep dropping these interesting tidbits. How do you know Balraj >> made him >> promise that? > > Honestly, I figured it was old news. > > How did I know? Balraj takes his own students. So you were a student of his? He was way cool. I saw him in Maharishi Nagar and he had a wonderful vibe about him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > You keep dropping these interesting tidbits. How do you know Balraj > made him > promise that? Honestly, I figured it was old news. How did I know? Balraj takes his own students. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 11:16 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:09 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > >> It appears that you take Maharishi's actions in this regard as to be >> important and indicative of his deep perception. > > I actually thought you would. From my perspective MMY takes what is > useful and exploits it: e.g. having Balraj give him these precious > formulations if he promised not to use them for monetary gain--and then > he turns around and creates a multi-million dollar line of the most > expensive Ayurvedic meds on the planet. > You keep dropping these interesting tidbits. How do you know Balraj made him promise that? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 12:09 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > It appears that you take Maharishi's actions in this regard as to be > important and indicative of his deep perception. I actually thought you would. From my perspective MMY takes what is useful and exploits it: e.g. having Balraj give him these precious formulations if he promised not to use them for monetary gain--and then he turns around and creates a multi-million dollar line of the most expensive Ayurvedic meds on the planet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 11:29 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > Yes, but you forgot one crucial point: JYOTISH DOESN'T WORK . Never had that problem. Esp. re: Karveji. His observations were right on. But that's part and parcel of "higher states of consciousness", no? Certainly MMY thinks so or he would not consult him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Jyaprecise time of first breath...real useful.Looks like he's good at playing smoke and mirrors and you are sOOOooo easily taken in . -Thank you my shadow. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 9:33 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: > My intent was not to insult him Nor did I mean to imply that you were. Just a clarification and observation on my part. :-) -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
Good morning Off: On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:57 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > Jyaprecise time of first breath...real useful. Exactly. Profoundly helpful. For those who don't know their birth time, it is a boon. And esp. if you have recourse to a Nadi Jyotishi who knows the system based on precise time of birth. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: > Seems more like a psychic I've heard that word used, but I think it is really an insult in this case--esp. given the derogatory sense of that word nowadays. He's a yogi, someone who lives for union. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > Is he a Jyotishi? He is a yogi who can read your Jyotish chart, precise time of first breath and past/future merely by placing his attention on you. He's a real jivan-mukti. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
on 3/28/05 7:29 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > >> I agree with everything you said. I just have a feeling that bringing >> pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's priority list. He mainly >> agreed >> to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic. > > One thing worth considering is that MMY is consulting with someone--I > am thinking of Yogi Karve. He has consulted with him in the past and > has declared him a "Sat Purush". > Is he a Jyotishi? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > I agree with everything you said. I just have a feeling that bringing > pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's priority list. He mainly > agreed > to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic. One thing worth considering is that MMY is consulting with someone--I am thinking of Yogi Karve. He has consulted with him in the past and has declared him a "Sat Purush". Yogi Karve has also cancelled plans to travel here until September (he was supposed to have been here by now). -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the happy talk about the pundits in Vedic City
I agree with everything you said. I just have a feeling that bringing pundits to Fairfield hasn't been high on M's priority list. He mainly agreed to it because Bob Wynne was so enthusiastic. on 3/28/05 12:50 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 3/28/05 12:04 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Hagelin may be deriving some sincerity from the wish expressed > that >>> the yagyas being performed by the pundits in India will make it >>> possible for the 500 pundits to somehow get permission to come to > the >>> USA, but as it stands right now, the U.S. State Dept. has rejected >>> 1000 applicants from the pool of pundits in India, and there is > very >>> little possibility of the pundits ever being admitted. >>> > > >> It sounded to me like MMY was placating Bob Wynne. He doesn't like > to say no >> to people directly. It's an Indian cultural thing. Say yes so as > not to hurt >> their feelings (or make yourself uncomfortable) even though you > have no >> intention of doing the thing. Bob took him at his word and > published the >> conversation. I've gotten the impression all along that the pundit > thing >> here was the result of Bob badgering MMY on the idea, and that the > latter >> was never overly enthused about it. > > * > > You're overlooking clear evidence that the visas were not granted, > and if the TMO built a $4.5 million trailer park and sought the visas > and the pundits are not coming only because the visas were denied, > then all the talk about Maharishi saying that the pundits should not > come now because of the parents' concern about safety is just a cover > story. > > The fact is, everybody, MMY and the whole TM mgmt crew, wanted the > pundits to come, but the job was botched. MUM's lawyer was saying in > 2003 that he was getting assurances from the highest level of the > State Dept that the visas were no problem, but I had published a > report from the June 2003 issue of Scientific American noting that > low-level employees make visa decisions, and those decisions cannot > be overturned even by the Secretary of State > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/pundits.html#sciam -- if the TMO had > bothered to consult with immigration attorneys, they would have found > that the pundits' poverty was indeed a problem (actually MUM has had > visa problems before with real college students from India, guys who > speak English, unlike the uneducated pundits > http://www.mum.edu/TheReview/02-03/1-22-03.html#3 ), and if MUM had > tried to get 25 or so visas before building the campus in Vedic City, > then this whole ridiculous situation of having a useless trailer park > could have been avoided. Obviously some use will be found for it > eventually, but for now it's a half-paid-for bunch of metal boxes > that have no purpose, and it's likely to make donors real unhappy > that their money was thrown away by the typical bone-head play of TM > management. > > The TMO is always going off half-cocked like this -- the big dog-and- > pony show to the island of Rota is just one of the many foolish > spectacles enabled by a failure to talk with expert lawyers in the > relevant field and a grandiose sense that yogic flyers who can't fly > will be able to talk their way out of anything: > > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#gradual > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
