Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi
you are a fucking idiot to read prejudice into a comment about flying machines in the vedas - I don't give thought to hindus anymore than i do christians, muslims, shinto or any other religion, especially the obsessive compulsive religion of posting insults to Barry about Rama no matter what he may say and the religion of believing that all things TM-ish came from Buddhism. From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi Michael Jackson: > there are flying machines in the Vedas!?!?!?! > Oh. Lordy, I might have to become a Hindoo. > So, you are prejudiced against Hindus. "...preconceived, usually unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi
What I find about a lot of "debunkers" is they are only doing so on an "emotional reaction." IOW, they have no logical basis and can't because of the subjects have NOT been examined and researched enough. So it's just a gut reaction that "this can't be." Real scientists and folks who have scientific minds might find it more interesting to explore the subject and see if there is any validity to it. One particular subject is a polar shift. There was actual research done and indeed evidence was found that the poles have shifted in the past. Thing is the shift took place of a couple million years so any humans around would not have notice anything. Of course all bets are off that if would take the same about of time again and that a quick shift might occur for reasons yet unknown to science. On 05/11/2013 01:26 PM, John wrote: > Salyavin, > > As you well know, PHD means piled higher and deeper. :) > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > wrote: >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: >>> Hey GN, >>> >>> The author appears to have deviated from the conservative realm of academia >>> into speculative and esoteric science. A lot of the narrative appears to >>> have been taken from Zecariah Sitchin's books. >>> >>> I don't believe many of the anthropologists would agree with this author. >> No shit? It does kind of underline my oft repeated point that >> having a PHD doesn't make you some sort of dependable beacon >> of truth. You can find a PHD or Prof endorsing pretty much any >> kooky load of bollocks. >> >> >>> JR >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Goddess Ninmah" wrote: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radio, article, The horrors perpetrated by Harry Truman, the U.S. President, when he ordered the civilian populations of Hiroshima, and, if that were not enough, Nagasaki also (to quickly end WWII and beat the Russians to Japan), were nothing new on this planet. 3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to Yahweh. The moral: Those who support such horrid aggression experience, in their turn, the horrors they support. This article's a plea: DISARM NUKES, NEGOTIATE PEACE AND COOPERATION FOR ALL. For article and illustrations that expand this program, see http://stargatetothecosmos.org/yahweh-nuked-us-before-truman-web-radio-article-illustrations-galore/ > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi
there are flying machines in the Vedas!?!?!?! Oh. Lordy, I might have to become a Hindoo. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could > > > > > possibly have posted this with a straight face. > > > > > > > > Are you kidding? There's a whole sub-culture of evolving new > > > > age guff like this. *Millions* believe it. I know perfectly > > > > sane, intelligent, successful people who believe mankind is > > > > in telepathic communication with alien beings at the centre > > > > of the galaxy. > > > > > > If it was me I would amend that to "...perfectly successful people who > > > believe mankind is..." > > > > Nope. Are all christians, muslims insane because they don't apply > > logic to their view of the world? Some would say yes, I think that > > in an absence of structured and tested knowledge about the world > > all sorts of nonsense can creep in and be taken as fact. > > > > And in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts are > > to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial is no > > stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing. > > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. I was talking > about the particular post made by GN which cited a particularly wild > assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the Earth having been nuked by aliens a > very long time ago. In case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired > reaction you no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh > your memory: > > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully Homo > Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth, ordered > nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in > Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to Yahweh." > > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these as perfectly in > line with other beliefs that run rampant among the human race, be my guest. > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone who would believe > this particular theory isn't likely to be having afternoon tea at my abode; I > prefer not to hang out with crazies. Sure it makes me laugh but no more than Jehovas witnesses, scientology or spoon bending. It's all about whether you have an evidence based view of the world or a belief based one. But do you think it's somehow different from biblical beliefs about God smiting the caananites and the fiery chariot in Ezekiel? The old testament is where the new age get their inspiration. The Xtians weird beliefs seem normal simply because they've been with us for longer and have become a tradition. And don't get me started on flying machines in the Vedas, I'm sure Nabby will tell you that's all proof of extraterrestrials. If all ideas were fresh, which would you think crazy? Afternoon tea might be a lonely experience for you. Me, I don't care what people believe as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, and my new age friends who believe in all sorts of channeling and weird shit are no different from my TM friends or my Christian ones, as long as they don't try and convert me they'll get scones and jam on my best china for sure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi
People will believe all kinds of stuff - a while back, that Drunvalo Melchizedek guy was putting his stamp of approval on this water that supposedly was energized by some sufi guys or some such, and the claim for the water was that it would not only heal people of their ailments, but if poured into a lake, pond or stream would clear the water of any and all pollution. People in California were paying $400.00 a pint for this stuff. What bullshit. From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing. > > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further, and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh > your memory: > > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to > Yahweh." > > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among > the human race, be my guest. Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying) that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna, Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction a building faces affects you, or that by closing your eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been given, you can personally experience what Einstein referred to as the Unified Field. ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent years or decades being indoctrinated into them. What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is that he was making the case that the *extremity* of this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs, if you just step back from them and view them critically, devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang > out with crazies. Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way someone who does not buy into them would*. The person who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in* the belief system as to no longer be able to understand how anyone else could not be. Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans over it the way that they are. People post exhortations to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for* saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the Middle East three millennia ago. One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi
that is hilarious - Benjy Creme and Jehovah's Witnesses (of which we have many around here) being on the same level of truth and accuracy! And true too. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Goddess Ninmah" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. > > > > (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radio, article, > > > > > > > > The horrors perpetrated by Harry Truman, the U.S. President, > > > > when he ordered the civilian populations of Hiroshima, and, if > > > > that were not enough, Nagasaki also (to quickly end WWII and > > > > beat the Russians to Japan), were nothing new on this planet. > > > > > > > > 3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot > > > > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical > > > > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and > > > > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a > > > > spaceport he ran in Sinai. > > > > > > This is SUCH bullshit that I just have to respond! > > > > It is right up Nabby's alley, along with that nut case Benjamin Creme. > > > > I too am waiting anxiously for the Bastards of Wisdom to descend upon > > Earth, bringing their whatever...laundry? > > > I see, so anartaxius this is what all your supposedly highminded philosophies > and so-called insights you post here in your long posts regarding > enlightenment and whatnot boils down to; no accomplishments on the finer > levels, no knowledge, no insights. Thanks for the clarification. > Your are welcome. I am curious though, why you believe these things. For example, Benjamin Creme's predictions have been as successful as the Jehovah's Witnesses' predictions about the end of the world and the coming of Christ. Whatever lifestyle Creme aspires to, he seems to be able to sustain it by convincing people about what he says. I mean, you seem to be really attracted to this; it must have some special meaning for you. I tend to be extraordinarily sceptical. That is not necessarily a blessing, because some of the fun and even beauty of life can be missed if that doubt goes too far. But to me, you do seem to be on the far fringe of certain beliefs about the world, so it is natural for me to wonder why that is. I seem to have struck a nerve there. It will heal. But, why is this so important?
