Re: Usability aspects on desktop themse.
John Baer wrote: Uno, Thank you for your comments. I have been performing some usability tests with the Flying High Theme and the results are posted on the preview page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFlyingHighPreview Not bad! But the right cloud, the one over the balloon, looks a little too much like an animal of some sort. I sort picture it as pig. Perhaps we could get it a little more cumulus like. I also think that the colors are a bit dark, and it gives me a little sad impression. If the background was a little lighter there would be less contrast between the balloon and the background. This would make it a little less in the face of the user. Regards Uno Engborg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Anaconda Splash/Progress Header Graphic
Máirín Duffy wrote: John Baer wrote: I noted from the Artwork/ReleaseGraphics document the header image for the Anaconda Splash and Progress page are the same. IMO if the each page called it's own header graphic (could be the same if desired) it would allow for additional flexibility in design. They're actually different images. See: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=749&slide=2 http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=749&slide=11 Then I'll ask from the opposite point of view: why? Why have two splashes so similar yet different images? Having one was just waste of time to create the other. And they are inconsistent with each other and only one look like the rest of the theme. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Usability aspects on desktop themse.
I don't like the brown. Ubuntu has taken more than three years to start getting rid of brown (it's orangey now). One of the major comlaints about Ubuntu was regarding the brown. Don't let Fedora go down that path. Gabriel On 1/3/07, Jiri Jakub Masek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good work, John. My opinion - the background image of GDM Desktop and SplashScreen could look better as is the one of GDM Login (I mean the brown colors gradient...) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: First Boot Question
David Zeuthen wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 09:15 -0500, John Baer wrote:
I noticed on the First Boot screen there is an icon to the left of the
word "Welcome". Where does it come from?
easiest (and it's not easy at all) way at this point is to inspect
the source code; e.g. download the source SRPM and go through the
source.
Firstboot is written in python so you don't have to download the SRPM
(you would probably want to download the SRPM if you were going to
submit a patch though.) You can look at the source of firstboot on a
Fedora system by looking in /usr/share/firstboot/modules and searching
through the file for the screen you're interested in. You're interested
in the welcome screen so open up /usr/share/firstboot/modules/welcome.py
and grep around for 'png':
title_pix = functions.imageFromFile("workstation.png")
I think this means it's /usr/share/firstboot/pixmaps/workstation.png (my
guess based on the top of /usr/share/firstboot/functions.py). (Note I'm
doing this on an FC5 system, the exact path in FC6 may be different...)
If the path is different from /usr/share/firstboot/pixmaps I think it
will show the full path (e.g., from timezone.py 'self.icon =
functions.imageFromPath("/usr/share/system-config-date/pixmaps/system-config-date.png"'))
~m
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Re: Anaconda Splash/Progress Header Graphic
Hi John, John Baer wrote: I noted from the Artwork/ReleaseGraphics document the header image for the Anaconda Splash and Progress page are the same. IMO if the each page called it's own header graphic (could be the same if desired) it would allow for additional flexibility in design. They're actually different images. See: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=749&slide=2 http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=749&slide=11 These are actual screenshots from FC6 - look at the 'fedora' lettering; they are clearly different images although it's easy to miss without looking at them side-by-side. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Anaconda Splash/Progress Header Graphic
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 12:38 -0500, John Baer wrote: > All, > > I noted from the Artwork/ReleaseGraphics document the header image for > the Anaconda Splash and Progress page are the same. IMO if the each > page called it's own header graphic (could be the same if desired) it > would allow for additional flexibility in design. > > Is this possible? It's probably worth asking this on http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/anaconda-devel-list Hope this helps. David ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Anaconda Splash/Progress Header Graphic
All, I noted from the Artwork/ReleaseGraphics document the header image for the Anaconda Splash and Progress page are the same. IMO if the each page called it's own header graphic (could be the same if desired) it would allow for additional flexibility in design. Is this possible? John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: GDM Splash Screen Question
Le Mer 3 janvier 2007 17:19, David Zeuthen a écrit : > On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 17:58 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> David Zeuthen wrote: >> >> >> >> The GNOME splash screen has been disabled upstream intentionally. >> > >> > True. We might look at enabling for live CD due to the fact that it >> > takes, sometimes, several minutes for the desktop session to start. >> >> Indeed, it was one of the big annoyances of the live CD. This part of >> the boot process felt very slow compared with other live CDs. > > Yeah. IIRC, it started becoming really slow (as opposed to just slow) > when we added SCIM; probably worth profiling / filing bugs. > > For example, for English and most European locales input methods are not > needed at all Actually XKB can not do some nice-to-have things even for latin locales, and averyone could use a fast SCIM Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: GDM Splash Screen Question
David Zeuthen wrote: Yeah. IIRC, it started becoming really slow (as opposed to just slow) when we added SCIM; probably worth profiling / filing bugs. The non-live CD versions start a whole lot of daemons that not many people will use. We enable the smart card daemon by default for every installation for example. We should completely eradicate that problem by the next release. It is silly. For example, for English and most European locales input methods are not needed at all so we should be smart about things and don't automatically load it. However, for e.g. Chinese and many others locales it's fundamentally needed so it needs to be on the live CD at least as long as we have one live CD for all territories. That might change though; e.g. we might have separate ones for; Americas/Europe, Eastern Europe, Africa, India, Asia/Pacific or some other way of breaking it down. Yes. That would be good. It might be useful have a discussion around the roadmap and reasonable schedules for the new features for the live cd that people have been wanting. Installation to hard disk, gui for the derivates, easy rebranding etc. Look at merging pilgrim and pungi perhaps. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: GDM Splash Screen Question
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 17:58 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > David Zeuthen wrote: > >> > >> The GNOME splash screen has been disabled upstream intentionally. > > > > True. We might look at enabling for live CD due to the fact that it > > takes, sometimes, several minutes for the desktop session to start. > > Indeed, it was one of the big annoyances of the live CD. This part of > the boot process felt very slow compared with other live CDs. Yeah. IIRC, it started becoming really slow (as opposed to just slow) when we added SCIM; probably worth profiling / filing bugs. For example, for English and most European locales input methods are not needed at all so we should be smart about things and don't automatically load it. However, for e.g. Chinese and many others locales it's fundamentally needed so it needs to be on the live CD at least as long as we have one live CD for all territories. That might change though; e.g. we might have separate ones for; Americas/Europe, Eastern Europe, Africa, India, Asia/Pacific or some other way of breaking it down. David ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: GDM Splash Screen Question
David Zeuthen wrote: The GNOME splash screen has been disabled upstream intentionally. True. We might look at enabling for live CD due to the fact that it takes, sometimes, several minutes for the desktop session to start. Indeed, it was one of the big annoyances of the live CD. This part of the boot process felt very slow compared with other live CDs. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: GDM Splash Screen Question
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 16:34 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > On the computers that I have installed Fedora the Gnome Splash Screen > > does not display even though the image is in the correct directory. > > > > Feature or bug? > > I would say feature, read at: > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc6/en_US/sn-Desktop.html > > The GNOME splash screen has been disabled upstream intentionally. True. We might look at enabling for live CD due to the fact that it takes, sometimes, several minutes for the desktop session to start. David ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: First Boot Question
Hi John, On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 09:15 -0500, John Baer wrote: > Diana and/or Mo, (btw, Diana is out sick today) > I noticed on the First Boot screen there is an icon to the left of the > word "Welcome". Where does it come from? I saw Nicu already replied but 1. As a rule of thumb most artwork for anaconda, firstboot and other things that is not part of the desktop session comes from either fedora-logos or redhat-artwork. It's not always true though. The easiest (and it's not easy at all) way at this point is to inspect the source code; e.g. download the source SRPM and go through the source. 2. All artwork that carries Fedora specific branding needs to go into fedora-logos (so it's easy for derived distributions to change) 3. 'rpm -qf' is your friend; example $ rpm -qf /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/32x32/apps/camera.png redhat-artwork-5.0.8-3.fc7 will tell you what specific package an icon originates from. Hope this helps. David ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: GDM Splash Screen Question
John Baer wrote: Diana and/or Mo, On the computers that I have installed Fedora the Gnome Splash Screen does not display even though the image is in the correct directory. Feature or bug? I would say feature, read at: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc6/en_US/sn-Desktop.html The GNOME splash screen has been disabled upstream intentionally. To enable it, use gconf-editor or the following command: gconftool-2 --set /apps/gnome-session/options/show_splash_screen --type bool true -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: First Boot Question
John Baer wrote: Diana and/or Mo, I noticed on the First Boot screen there is an icon to the left of the word "Welcome". Where does it come from? I don't know if it is taken directly from the icon theme, but it is the Bluecurve icon for "computer", see /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/48x48/apps/icon-computer.png -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
GDM Splash Screen Question
Diana and/or Mo, On the computers that I have installed Fedora the Gnome Splash Screen does not display even though the image is in the correct directory. Feature or bug? :) John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
First Boot Question
Diana and/or Mo, I noticed on the First Boot screen there is an icon to the left of the word "Welcome". Where does it come from? John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
