Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-28 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Máirí­n Duffy wrote:
>
> I'm not really sure the best place to put them, I am not involved in
> Echo development, so if you like them maybe put them where you think
> they might belong.
>
> ~m
>
Done. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines

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Re: Shutdown button draft for echo-icon-theme

2007-03-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Mar 27 mars 2007 19:27, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>>
>>
>> IMHO the 3d disc just makes the symbol hard to distinguish. Why can't
>> you just work from a naked (I) symbol ?
>>
>
> Like this?

Actually I find the whole disk thing distracting, even though this variant
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Re: Shutdown button draft for echo-icon-theme

2007-03-28 Thread Mark

sorry, i still don`t really like it.
it just doesn`t fit

2007/3/28, Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Le Mar 27 mars 2007 19:27, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>>
>>
>> IMHO the 3d disc just makes the symbol hard to distinguish. Why can't
>> you just work from a naked (I) symbol ?
>>
>
> Like this?

Actually I find the whole disk thing distracting, even though this variant
is a little better

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Re: Shutdown button draft for echo-icon-theme

2007-03-28 Thread Ben Arnold

I eally prefer the shutdown24-3.png and standbyL-4.png, they both are
a bit quieter than the blue/red combination and I can see them fitting
into the GNOME panel and box more, along with the KDE panel.

On 28/03/07, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

sorry, i still don`t really like it.
it just doesn`t fit

2007/3/28, Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Le Mar 27 mars 2007 19:27, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :
> > Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> IMHO the 3d disc just makes the symbol hard to distinguish. Why can't
> >> you just work from a naked (I) symbol ?
> >>
> >
> > Like this?
>
> Actually I find the whole disk thing distracting, even though this variant
> is a little better
>
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echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi,

I made a gnome-devel icon draft. See attachments. It is also available (with
SVG) on my personal wiki [1].

Atachments:
1. gnome-devel16.png
2. gnome-devel24.png
3. gnome-develL.png

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Re: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Mark

they are so. gray..


2007/3/28, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi,

I made a gnome-devel icon draft. See attachments. It is also available
(with
SVG) on my personal wiki [1].

Atachments:
1. gnome-devel16.png
2. gnome-devel24.png
3. gnome-develL.png

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Re: Shutdown button draft for echo-icon-theme

2007-03-28 Thread Mark

i made a shutdown image myselt. it`s not based on any standards and not a
svg image.
but than again.. i just made it so you have a iidea how i would like to see
it.
i`m not a icon developer nor am i good at photoshopping.. if you like it you
can have the psd file and make a svg image of it :)

here is the image:
http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=poweroffcopywh1.png

the red glow (lower left corner) realy finishes it :)

2007/3/28, Ben Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I eally prefer the shutdown24-3.png and standbyL-4.png, they both are
a bit quieter than the blue/red combination and I can see them fitting
into the GNOME panel and box more, along with the KDE panel.

On 28/03/07, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry, i still don`t really like it.
> it just doesn`t fit
>
> 2007/3/28, Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Le Mar 27 mars 2007 19:27, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :
> > > Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> IMHO the 3d disc just makes the symbol hard to distinguish. Why
can't
> > >> you just work from a naked (I) symbol ?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Like this?
> >
> > Actually I find the whole disk thing distracting, even though this
variant
> > is a little better
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Re: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Sourada
Hm... they were supposed to be so... Anyway, what colour would you suggest?
There is an orange-handled wrench, a blue-handed srewdriver, it is not an easy
job to pick third colour for them... And the box is supposed to look similar
to a pot from applications-office icon.

Any further suggestions or comments appreciated :-)

Thanks,
Martin

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Re: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
I don't like the way these tools are used for setup, properties and devel.
A metaphor that is re-used for widely different things is not a good
metaphor.

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Re: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Mark

more brighter colors instead of a gray variation of it.

2007/3/28, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hm... they were supposed to be so... Anyway, what colour would you
suggest?
There is an orange-handled wrench, a blue-handed srewdriver, it is not an
easy
job to pick third colour for them... And the box is supposed to look
similar
to a pot from applications-office icon.

Any further suggestions or comments appreciated :-)

Thanks,
Martin

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Echo background :)

2007-03-28 Thread Mola Pahnadayan
Hi all

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/51887583/

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Re: Echo background :)

2007-03-28 Thread Mark

first thing i noticed: the icons on that desktop are not updated to the echo
icons ;)
furthermore a extremely nice image but perhaps a little TOO to use it as a
wallpaper

good job ^_^

2007/3/28, Mola Pahnadayan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi all

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/51887583/

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Re: Echo background :)

2007-03-28 Thread Ifeoma Onuorah

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Very Nice! What a cool background! .. Good Job.

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Re: Echo background :)

2007-03-28 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Mola Pahnadayan wrote:
> Hi all
>
> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/51887583/
>
>   

Impressive. I think someday you should create a nice Blender tutorial.
If you have, could you also create a Fedora theme for Blender interface?

Luya

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Re: Shutdown button draft for echo-icon-theme

2007-03-28 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Ben Arnold wrote:
> I eally prefer the shutdown24-3.png and standbyL-4.png, they both are
> a bit quieter than the blue/red combination and I can see them fitting
> into the GNOME panel and box more, along with the KDE panel.
>
Taking Nicolas suggestion, I removed the circle border with this result.
I think these icons not only fit on the menu but also on login screen.
Do you prefer the borderless or the border version?


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network-wireless icon for Echo

2007-03-28 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
This icon not only derived from Tango version but it is also the
modified version of Bluetooth file share I have created [1].

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/Sandbox



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Re: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Ben Arnold

On 28/03/07, Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't like the way these tools are used for setup, properties and devel.
A metaphor that is re-used for widely different things is not a good
metaphor.


+1

I think a different image should be used; KDE's Crystal developent
icon [a1] is a bit bland compared to Echo's style but the mimetype
icon for Kig [a2] looks good for development. I can see where you are
coming from looking at Bluecurve's package-development but I think we
can do better than that.

I propose a 'screen designer' style icon; perhaps the following ideas may help:
- the screen behind a pencil and set square (similar to accessories)
- screen behind the 'applications-other' icon or similar
- screen with text or code on it, keyboard or pencil in front -
reminiscent to 'text-x-script'
- keyboard, pencil, cogs

Any thoughts?

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Re: Shutdown button draft for echo-icon-theme

2007-03-28 Thread Mark

that`s looking good.
easy and clean :)

2007/3/28, Luya Tshimbalanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Ben Arnold wrote:
> I eally prefer the shutdown24-3.png and standbyL-4.png, they both are
> a bit quieter than the blue/red combination and I can see them fitting
> into the GNOME panel and box more, along with the KDE panel.
>
Taking Nicolas suggestion, I removed the circle border with this result.
I think these icons not only fit on the menu but also on login screen.
Do you prefer the borderless or the border version?


Luya

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Re: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Mark

looks awesome!!
no critics.

2007/3/28, Ben Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On 28/03/07, Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't like the way these tools are used for setup, properties and
devel.
> A metaphor that is re-used for widely different things is not a good
> metaphor.

+1

I think a different image should be used; KDE's Crystal developent
icon [a1] is a bit bland compared to Echo's style but the mimetype
icon for Kig [a2] looks good for development. I can see where you are
coming from looking at Bluecurve's package-development but I think we
can do better than that.

I propose a 'screen designer' style icon; perhaps the following ideas may
help:
- the screen behind a pencil and set square (similar to accessories)
- screen behind the 'applications-other' icon or similar
- screen with text or code on it, keyboard or pencil in front -
reminiscent to 'text-x-script'
- keyboard, pencil, cogs

Any thoughts?

./b

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Re: Shutdown button draft for echo-icon-theme

2007-03-28 Thread Ben Arnold

On 28/03/07, Luya Tshimbalanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ben Arnold wrote:
> I eally prefer the shutdown24-3.png and standbyL-4.png, they both are
> a bit quieter than the blue/red combination and I can see them fitting
> into the GNOME panel and box more, along with the KDE panel.
>
Taking Nicolas suggestion, I removed the circle border with this result.
I think these icons not only fit on the menu but also on login screen.
Do you prefer the borderless or the border version?


If I'm honest, I'll mostly stick with what I said earlier. The
borderless versions don't fit with the rest of the Echo set,
specifically dialog-* and media-*, because I feel it gives somewhere
to 'hit' the icon.

The colours are soft, though; I like the orange for hibernate as this
is close to the red for shutdown and different enough to the blue for
standby.

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Re: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 28 mars 2007 à 19:57 +0100, Ben Arnold a écrit :
> On 28/03/07, Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't like the way these tools are used for setup, properties and devel.
> > A metaphor that is re-used for widely different things is not a good
> > metaphor.
> 
> +1
> 
> I think a different image should be used; KDE's Crystal developent
> icon [a1] is a bit bland compared to Echo's style but the mimetype
> icon for Kig [a2] looks good for development. I can see where you are
> coming from looking at Bluecurve's package-development but I think we
> can do better than that.
> 
> I propose a 'screen designer' style icon; perhaps the following ideas may 
> help:
>  - the screen behind a pencil and set square (similar to accessories)
>  - screen behind the 'applications-other' icon or similar
>  - screen with text or code on it, keyboard or pencil in front -
> reminiscent to 'text-x-script'
>  - keyboard, pencil, cogs

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Re: Shutdown button draft for echo-icon-theme

2007-03-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 28 mars 2007 à 20:05 +0100, Ben Arnold a écrit :
> On 28/03/07, Luya Tshimbalanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ben Arnold wrote:
> > > I eally prefer the shutdown24-3.png and standbyL-4.png, they both are
> > > a bit quieter than the blue/red combination and I can see them fitting
> > > into the GNOME panel and box more, along with the KDE panel.
> > >
> > Taking Nicolas suggestion, I removed the circle border with this result.
> > I think these icons not only fit on the menu but also on login screen.
> > Do you prefer the borderless or the border version?
> 
> If I'm honest, I'll mostly stick with what I said earlier. The
> borderless versions don't fit with the rest of the Echo set,
> specifically dialog-* and media-*, because I feel it gives somewhere
> to 'hit' the icon.

One can perhaps do some 3d like in media-* without sacrificing the
symbol distinctive form. (I'd make the same reproach for dialog-close &
dialog-ok, though they've managed to stay somehow distinctive with flat
& different colours)

BTW it may be useful to add little twists to the different
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Re: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Sourada
Ok,
you convinced me, using same tools for preferences as for development isn't a
very good idea...

Ben,
thanks for the ideas I will look into them as soon as I have enough time. But,
as for cogs - they are already used for system tools - and as for text, I fear
that an icon is too small to put there some code (though it would be perfect)...

Nicolas,
good idea. Perhaps we could take some simple app window (only a window with one
or two buttons, edit boxes or something like this), add depth to it, divide it
into (more or less) cube blocks, some of them remove completely and one or two
only place a little apart (angled) showing that they belong to the rest, but are
not placed yet? Though I am not sure how it would look in small sizes...

Thanks for your comments and ideas,
Martin

Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a):
> Le mercredi 28 mars 2007 à 19:57 +0100, Ben Arnold a écrit :
>> On 28/03/07, Nicolas Mailhot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I don't like the way these tools are used for setup, properties and devel.
>>> A metaphor that is re-used for widely different things is not a good
>>> metaphor.
>> +1
>>
>> I think a different image should be used; KDE's Crystal developent
>> icon [a1] is a bit bland compared to Echo's style but the mimetype
>> icon for Kig [a2] looks good for development. I can see where you are
>> coming from looking at Bluecurve's package-development but I think we
>> can do better than that.
>>
>> I propose a 'screen designer' style icon; perhaps the following ideas may 
>> help:
>>  - the screen behind a pencil and set square (similar to accessories)
>>  - screen behind the 'applications-other' icon or similar
>>  - screen with text or code on it, keyboard or pencil in front -
>> reminiscent to 'text-x-script'
>>  - keyboard, pencil, cogs
> 
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> involves creating new things with existing blocks, and avoiding
> confusion with schema/vector-graphics editors)
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