Re: F8 artwork
Máirín Duffy wrote: I looked at the F8 release schedule and the calendar and came up with the following (somewhat aggressive, but if all goes well we'll have everything for the feature freeze deadline) schedule: - Round 1 deadline: Monday July 2nd - Any ideas that don't have a formal proposal on the mailing list + a proposal page linked off of the F8Themes wiki page will be out of the running at this point. Seems fine - Round 2 deadline: Monday July 20th - Any ideas that don't have fully fleshed-out and polished artwork, at least 1 wallpaper and let's say 3 supporting graphics, will be out of the running at this point. OK - Round 3 deadline: Monday August 20th (F8 feature freeze) - Any ideas that don't have fully-polished and implemented versions of the following will be out of the running: - wallpaper - gdm theme - bootup artwork (whether it's the new system or RHGB graphics and grub screen) - installer artwork (splash, banner, and 15-color anaconda graphic) - firstboot artwork (splash, banner) I feel like this is asking a little too much, an almost complete theme and we may still have a number of competing concepts at that time, but I am not very strong about this. If we really, really get stuck and end up with more than one really awesome theme by the round 3 deadline, we can always hold a vote of Fedora contributors similar to the F7 naming vote process. I'm hoping that it won't be necessary, though. If we don't have any completely finished to the specifications above by the deadline, we can dig in and work on the one that's closest to being complete at that point. And if we have just only one theme at that point? Will we have the authority to endorse it as the way to go? For F7 nobody objected because the decision was made by a supreme, unquestionable authority (RH Desktop Team), maybe we should define clearly the process and our relation with the Desktop Team. Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. I think the dates are just fine, go ahead with the announcements. On a related note, I would also like to add some more milestones/deadlines to the process even though they aren't part of the theme selection process. Please tell me if you think I'm completely insane with these items deadlines. No you are not insane, these are good to have. We may not consider them blockers or not be very strict about dates and accept a couple of days delay. - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the release the way we did Reach higher for the new static FPO website, and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. This is fine. If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. Is not this a little earlier? Those last milestones my go in parallel schedule, CD covers are not blockers for screenshots in the press kit and are not blocked by the promo banners, all of them use the release theming as a root. Anyway, we should create a page similar to the ThemingOverview for all those marketing related graphics, as a central point of reference. - Milestone 6: Mon 5 October - prepare a 'promo kit' for the release. This would be aimed towards Fedora ambassadors and other folks wanting to promote Fedora 8 at conferences/shows/gatherings during launch time. Include some standard screenshots folks can use, some printer-quality artwork (sources for the theme work would be great), and a link to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] site, all gathered in one page on the wiki for easy access. I've noticed we've gotten a lot of inquiries about these materials for F8 and were not prepared. Another idea for the kit: PDF informational sheet about the release with preliminary release notes (or information about the most compelling features being introduced in the release) and a couple screenshots. Yes, this is useful, we will have to work closely with the marketing team. - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up and ready to go for the final release date. Another yes from me on this. Maybe yet another milestone working with the
Re: F8 artwork
Le Ven 8 juin 2007 09:12, Mark a écrit : comments? critics? feel free to post it here (don`t pm.. let everyone read it here on this list) Be very carreful with gradients. They're pretty but it's difficult to have text with good contrast over them. -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
On 08/06/07, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Máirí-n Duffy wrote: - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the release the way we did Reach higher for the new static FPO website, and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. This is fine. If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) I did, to be honest, miss this idea completely! I think it could be fun to have a caption competition open to a wider audience, maybe a FedoraForum thread or something. It may bring in more ideas. Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does that make sense?) Say instead something like Tentacles or GNOME Curves (with a Fedora touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. So, in a way, a background of a wallpaper without a definate subject? Question: F7 changed the icon theme to Myst partly to match the blue of the rest of the desktop. We will do something similar in F8 or the opposite (do the desktop artwork to fit the icon theme). The same about Metacity. +1 They need to match somehow. Problem is we don't know if we can depend on Echo at this point. Call me pessimistic, but I have my doubts about Echo. I think it will take a lot of time and work to say the least. Methinks it will be done when it's done and until then we will have to keep Mist or something a little more fresh than Bluecurve. -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
thanx for the suggestion i will keep that in mind 2007/6/8, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le Ven 8 juin 2007 09:12, Mark a écrit : comments? critics? feel free to post it here (don`t pm.. let everyone read it here on this list) Be very carreful with gradients. They're pretty but it's difficult to have text with good contrast over them. -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 12:12 +0200, Ben Arnold wrote: I did, to be honest, miss this idea completely! I think it could be fun to have a caption competition open to a wider audience, maybe a FedoraForum thread or something. It may bring in more ideas. I thought it too, so I opened a thread already yesterday: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157254 Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
Sorry for probable double posting, but my last messages got probably lost, so here is the first of them: Hi folks, I also made a metacity/kwm theme mockup [1]. I also provide svg [2] in case anyone would like to polish/rework it. The main ideas are: 1. usage of echo colours 2. decent gradients, echoey style 3. different coloured buttons, as it could help user faster distinguish the difference 4. only upper corners rounded, bottom ones squared 5. gradient only in title bar, border solid, continuous transition from the title bar 6. echoy style outline Please not that its an very early draft and is meant only to express the ideas. While I am quite content with the title bar and border, the buttons are at the moment not very nice, IMO. Feel free to modify, comment and criticise it :) And, well... this is only for focused window, the other ones might be in grey scale or at least with very small saturation... Also, we would need to explore how it would fit with gtk/qt style... references: [1] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.png [2] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.svg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
Hi folks, I also made a metacity/kwm theme mockup [1]. I also provide svg [2] in case anyone would like to polish/rework it. The main ideas are: 1. usage of echo colours 2. decent gradients, echoey style 3. different coloured buttons, as it could help user faster distinguish the difference 4. only upper corners rounded, bottom ones squared 5. gradient only in title bar, border solid, continuous transition from the title bar 6. echoy style outline Please not that its an very early draft and is meant only to express the ideas. While I am quite content with the title bar and border, the buttons are at the moment not very nice, IMO. Feel free to modify, comment and criticise it :) And, well... this is only for focused window, the other ones might be in grey scale or at least with very small saturation... Also, we would need to explore how it would fit with gtk/qt style... references: [1] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.png [2] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.svg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 artwork
Nicu Buculei wrote: If we really, really get stuck and end up with more than one really awesome theme by the round 3 deadline, we can always hold a vote of Fedora contributors similar to the F7 naming vote process. I'm hoping that it won't be necessary, though. If we don't have any completely finished to the specifications above by the deadline, we can dig in and work on the one that's closest to being complete at that point. And if we have just only one theme at that point? Will we have the authority to endorse it as the way to go? For F7 nobody objected because the decision was made by a supreme, unquestionable authority (RH Desktop Team), maybe we should define clearly the process and our relation with the Desktop Team. Well, I think there are two things we can do to help avoid the issues we had last release: - We should be as open and as transparent as possible wrt our progress on the themes. We should post to Planet Fedora for example, at least every two weeks on the situation so there are no surprises for anyone involved by the time the 3rd and final theme deadline is reached. Remember also that the major bits need to be implemented by the final deadline so hopefully we will have folks from Desktop assisting with that process thus they'll be aware of the stuff we're coming up with and be able to give their input. - We could have a representative of Desktop team and a representative of the Fedora board to give a signoff on the final theme design, to make sure they agree its a proper representation of Fedora and the desktop. We should make sure each of these representatives is made aware of how we're doing along with posting our updates. Sound reasonable? Paul is already our representative to the Board I think; would you be willing to be the desktop liaison, Matthias? Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. I think the dates are just fine, go ahead with the announcements. Will do :) - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the release the way we did Reach higher for the new static FPO website, and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. This is fine. If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) Yep exactly, so it makes sense to come up with this after the graphic theme is decided. - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. Is not this a little earlier? Those last milestones my go in parallel schedule, CD covers are not blockers for screenshots in the press kit and are not blocked by the promo banners, all of them use the release theming as a root. Do you think the promo kit should come first? I was thinking that a lot of folks block on the disc designs, folks who are holding launch events and magazines and such. And the disc designs could be included in the promo kit. Anyway, we should create a page similar to the ThemingOverview for all those marketing related graphics, as a central point of reference. +1 - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up and ready to go for the final release date. Another yes from me on this. Maybe yet another milestone working with the documentation people on the Firefox start page? This is a great idea, I totally forget this. We could include this task in the milestone with the FPO materials. Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does that make sense?) Say instead something like Tentacles or GNOME Curves (with a Fedora touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. +1 Something along those lines with a small Fedora logo is what I was thinking basic would be. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Where is the Fedora 3d logo?
Hey, a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with some nice 3d like things in it. i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads it`s extremely hard to find. anyone knows where i can find it? Thanx, Mark. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Where is the Fedora 3d logo?
Mark wrote: Hey, a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with some nice 3d like things in it. i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads it`s extremely hard to find. anyone knows where i can find it? I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FlyingHigh for ksplash-engine-moodin
sorry to revive this thread but i think something like this should get in Fedora 8. and yea this is the complete opposite of what i thought when Sebastian posted this here.. The reason i think this needs to get in Fedora 8 is because you now see the desktop loading. that`s good for the more advanced linux users or the people who ust want to see everything building up.. for the beginner user en to be as user friendly as possible (what fedora wants) it`s better to have a fullscreen loadig and present the user with the desktop when it`s fully loaded. 2007/3/26, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if you like a full screen splash ;) it`s nice, but not my style. 2007/3/26, Sebastian Vahl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:35:11 +0200 schrieb Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you could just use the gnome splash in moodin ;) might need a little tweaking/adjusting but it`s possible that way the splashes for KDE and GNOME are the same which would be best i think. But that is not a fullscreen splash. ;) Sebastian ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Where is the Fedora 3d logo?
yea that`s the stuff i meant thanx Máirín 2007/6/9, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark wrote: Hey, a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with some nice 3d like things in it. i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads it`s extremely hard to find. anyone knows where i can find it? I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Where is the Fedora 3d logo?
or maybe Nicu's artwork: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ Regards 2007/6/8, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark wrote: Hey, a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with some nice 3d like things in it. i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads it`s extremely hard to find. anyone knows where i can find it? I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Diego Búrigo Zacarão Linux User #402589 USE SOFTWARE LIVRE ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Where is the Fedora 3d logo?
yea that`s good stuff aswell :) thanx for that one. 2007/6/9, Diego Búrigo Zacarão [EMAIL PROTECTED]: or maybe Nicu's artwork: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ Regards 2007/6/8, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark wrote: Hey, a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with some nice 3d like things in it. i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads it`s extremely hard to find. anyone knows where i can find it? I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Diego Búrigo Zacarão Linux User #402589 USE SOFTWARE LIVRE ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
