Re: [Echo icon theme] Forward/Backward icons - change colouring?
Martin Sourada a écrit : Hi, I have a little suggestion concerning the Echo icons. We have there icons for undo/redo actions which are coloured orange respectively green. I must say that I really like them and like the idea - it's even easier to distinguish which one is which. So, I thought we could use the same colour scheme for backward/forward icons which are currently blue. Maybe some other icons might be adjusted to this colour scheme as well. What do you think about it? I think that approach is a bad idea because it will create confusions for the users. Leave the backward/forward icons as they are. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: official Sticker?
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit : Why we don't create such official stickers and announce them for free usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be stolen from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones. So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki? Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 15:50 +0200, Martin Sourada a écrit : Do you mean the colours that can be set at theme details - colours tab? They work if theme implements them, not the engine. Nodoka is done so that it take effect if you change them. I'm kind of sceptical because none of the murrine themes you get when installing the engine does this (they either refuse to or only partly change colours) Anyway if an official Fedora them is produced supporting the Fedora desktop capabilities (including colour change) is a must. Esp. if we are going to insist on only producing electric blue designs ourselves. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: official Sticker?
Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit : Why we don't create such official stickers and announce them for free usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be stolen from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones. So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki? IIRC the main stumbling block was trademark issues since such a sticker is pretty much limited by area to a re-composing of the Fedora logo. So the trademark guardians need to state clearly what they are ready to accept. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: official Sticker?
Am Sonntag, den 08.07.2007, 14:10 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: snip ... /snip sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones. So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki? ^^ THIS was my thinking an wishes which I want to have be done with my mail ... ... and if we're on the way to do so ... we should also create layouts for printwork for various usage like - keychains - stickers - for Front-Side of Desktops - in the size like the intel inside-Logo - for cars - for magnetic pins - for pins in general and so on ... I'm sure we find a lot of usage where we need and WANT to have our logo on ... Creating a special Wikipage and announce that usage for everyone should be the easier work which has to be done :-) Regards Gerold PS.: maybe we can also vote in the community for each design and usage :-) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: official Sticker?
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit : Why we don't create such official stickers and announce them for free usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be stolen from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones. So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki? IIRC the main stumbling block was trademark issues since such a sticker is pretty much limited by area to a re-composing of the Fedora logo. So the trademark guardians need to state clearly what they are ready to accept. Is there any candidate proposals that are accepted within the art work team. Mo should be able to tell you whether they match the usage guidelines for the logo. That is all that matter IMO. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 10:45 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: I'm kind of sceptical because none of the murrine themes you get when installing the engine does this (they either refuse to or only partly change colours) Anyway if an official Fedora them is produced supporting the Fedora desktop capabilities (including colour change) is a must. Esp. if we are going to insist on only producing electric blue designs ourselves. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I just tried to change the colours for the Nodoka theme (in Theme Details - Colours tab) for something distinctive from the original (and completely insane) and the only thing that didn't change it's colour is the scrollbar. Anyway, I don't want the scrollbar to be blue all the time, so this fix is a must for me, and the rest seems to work. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: official Sticker?
Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : Is there any candidate proposals that are accepted within the art work team. Mo should be able to tell you whether they match the usage guidelines for the logo. That is all that matter IMO. You have one series there http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-fr-list/2006-November/msg00113.html Honestly the basic concept is more or less always the same, so if Mo is trusted with the whole sticker thing I suspect it'll be faster to let her just design a good one than hunt for all the variants that exist in the wild. But if you insist you'll have to ask the marketing lists. They are the ones who know what has been produced in each country. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: official Sticker?
Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 11:22 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : Is there any candidate proposals that are accepted within the art work team. Mo should be able to tell you whether they match the usage guidelines for the logo. That is all that matter IMO. You have one series there http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-fr-list/2006-November/msg00113.html And others there: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ http://beranger.org/index.php?fullarticle=2587page=3k http://www.it2l.com/product_info.php?products_id=905osCsid=c6891aa29d8ba9834c19d8cfe00db980 http://www.linux-onlineshop.de/product_info.php/info/p1153_PC-Sticker---Fedora-Linux.html http://www.fidu.de/product_info.php/info/p1149_Notebook-Sticker--powered-by-Fedora.html Just google Fedora sticker the net is awash with them -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: round 1 deadline approaching
Hey, sadly i pull out of the theming battle for Fedora 8. My theme was MageFedoraTheme (not registered on the wiki). The reasons i pull out are: - The making of the theme takes more time than i'm willing to spend for it. and figuring out how to make it work for both Gnome and KDE is gonna take up so much more that i can hardly get it finished in time if possible at all. Also when i make a theme i want it to be running on both KDE and Gnome and not just gnome alone. that's not an option for me. - I'm also in the progress of making a PHP script which really needs to get some more time now. - And last of all. I want to see where redhat is in a few months. And recent rumors about talks with Microsoft don't really motivate me to continue. So sadly enough i'm out. If anyone wants my sources (.psd photoshop ... (yes i know, no oss software) files.) Mail me privately on this mail and i will send them to you. To all other competitors that are still in. i wish you all the best of luck while making the theme and please don't leave KDE out of it. Also don't forget the taskbar.. becaue i really get bored of that default gray and that can use a more fedora style (light-blue? drak-blue?). Good luck to all, Mark 2007/7/7, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi folks! The deadline for round 1 is next Wednesday. So if you've got some ideas, set up a wiki page here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes And let us know about it on the list! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Nodoka Theme Proposal
Daniel Geiger wrote: As for the Nodoka gtk theme clocking much more slowly than the current default, I should mention that the Murrine theme engine for whatever reason does not operate well when there are more than, say, 2 or 3 instances loaded into memory. I have revised the gtkrc back down to only 2 instances of the engine. Also, I have made a Nodoka fork of the Murrine theme engine. With the Nodoka theme engine, I hope to create a theme engine that has a distinct Nodoka look, but to have the same level of configurability of Murrine. I also think the Metacity theme needs a good deal of work yet, if the buttons are going to be together, and support all layouts. I'll try to post the Nodoka theme engine source code, with the other Nodoka theme revisions I've been making. Good. As for the metacity, I think we might go with buttons together which are on the right side of the window, for the buttons on the left I would use no background, only some prelight/pushed effects. The last metacity I've done (available on the wiki [1]) is done in this way, so multiple button layouts are supported, though it still needs some refinement for the buttons on the left... As for the Nodoka engine, do you think you could make it generate similar look I sketched [1]? Feel free to upload the sources on the wiki [1] - they aren't that big and for the start it's the best we can do, IMHO. Later we could ask for fedora hosting for the sources... Martin PS: Seems that mails from you to art-list somehow get lost on their way to me. Could you CC me please when you post something concerning Nodoka? Thanks. references: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
The process is confusing, the red tape frustrating.
It has been alluded to that in Diana's absence the Art Team would be tasked with crafting the default artwork for fedora 8. Nicu indicated in volume 15, issue 49 the fedora leadership supports this. http://lwn.net/Articles/237700/ However, Mo seems to disagree with her statements in volume 15, issue 53. I have been hesitant to start really driving this because I was hoping I could get you all a more firm answer on whether or not the artwork would definitely be considered as the default theme. Since I have not been able to do that, and we are quickly running out of time, here is the one thing I can promise you: I will definitely find a way to package and make easily installable at least some of the artwork we come up with if it isn't considered for the default artwork. Let's just focus on coming up with the best theme we can. So which way is it? If we are not working on the default why not use Gnome-Art, Gnome-Look, or KDE-Look for our submissions? John Baer wrote: More curious than anything else. If we are Ok with the creative commons license, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ , then what does #7 of the CLA need in order to be satisfied? I'm not a lawyer, but the CLA itself seems to suggest: you may submit it to the Project separately from any Contribution, identifying the complete details of its source and of any license or other restriction which would be pretty much what I was hoping you would be willing to do - identify the author and its license, Creative Commons or not. ~m As it turns out I'm not a lawyer either and I don't understand it. On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 Nicu Buculei wrote: Ugh, if those are random photos from flickr or such, remove them and replace with links? (I think we can't host even CC-BY-SA work in the wiki, thumbnails may be fair-use, but not full-size versions) Ouch, where did this come from? Yes, some of the source photo's came from flickr. Yes they are all licensed under the creative commons license. Yes I would give full credit to the author on any image moving forward. Yes, yes, yes. Why is this vast source of artistic material considered a bad thing? I find it frustrating working in an environment shadowed by legal fine print and constant legal warnings (ie. By hitting Save Changes you put your changes under the WikiLicense. If you don't want that, hit Cancel to cancel your changes). I have not run across this disclosure on any other wiki. Although I believe the desire is to create an open forum which fosters the flow creative ideas, this is not working. John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: The process is confusing, the red tape frustrating.
John Baer wrote: More curious than anything else. If we are Ok with the creative commons license, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ , then what does #7 of the CLA need in order to be satisfied? I'm not a lawyer, but the CLA itself seems to suggest: you may submit it to the Project separately from any Contribution, identifying the complete details of its source and of any license or other restriction which would be pretty much what I was hoping you would be willing to do - identify the author and its license, Creative Commons or not. As it turns out I'm not a lawyer either and I don't understand it. Even though I am not a lawyer I feel the language is pretty clear. Also, I do not believe the practice of using other's work without citing it, even if it's scratch work, in a public forum is really acceptable just out of respect for other artists, you know? Even here when we build on each other's work I've noticed we've been very good about stating whose works we built upon. I think it's a good practice even outside of the fact that the CLA requires it, honestly. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
