Re: Request for project icon and logo
Máirín Duffy wrote: Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: One year before. I'm 15. But it has nothing to do with my behavior. Don't be vicious. How am I being vicious? I am just stating a fact. I think you were rather vicious to Nicu though... whether or not that is a product of immaturity/age I make no judgements on. Maybe is the time for me to acknowledge some guilt: I was vicious... I had *a lot* of fun in taunting Jakub when I was supposed to know better and abstain myself. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Long] Do we need a font SIG ?
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 13:51 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > 7. The font situation is bad enough we have a font exception to our > FLOSS rules > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#head-daa717ea096fa4d9cf7b9a49b5edb36e3bda3aac > [for example we ship Luxi even though its licensing forbids > modification, making it non-free > http://www.xfree86.org/current/LICENSE11.html] Open a bug report. Let's start the process of having it removed in F9. > 8. There are efforts to drain the font licensing swamp and promote > FLOSS fonts (http://unifont.org/go_for_ofl/), they are aligned with > Fedora general objectives yet Fedora has totally ignored them so far > (cf Liberation licensing choices) Keep in mind that Liberation licensing was a Red Hat, Inc decision, not a Fedora decision. Also, we haven't totally ignored the OFL, since it is listed as the "preferred" font license on the Fedora licensing page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/Fonts ~spot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Long] Do we need a font SIG ?
Le Lun 26 novembre 2007 15:51, Tom \"spot\" Callaway a écrit : > > On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 13:51 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> 7. The font situation is bad enough we have a font exception to our >> FLOSS rules >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#head-daa717ea096fa4d9cf7b9a49b5edb36e3bda3aac >> [for example we ship Luxi even though its licensing forbids >> modification, making it non-free >> http://www.xfree86.org/current/LICENSE11.html] > > Open a bug report. Let's start the process of having it removed in F9. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=317641 >> 8. There are efforts to drain the font licensing swamp and promote >> FLOSS fonts (http://unifont.org/go_for_ofl/), they are aligned with >> Fedora general objectives yet Fedora has totally ignored them so far >> (cf Liberation licensing choices) > > Keep in mind that Liberation licensing was a Red Hat, Inc decision, > not > a Fedora decision. > > Also, we haven't totally ignored the OFL, since it is listed as the > "preferred" font license on the Fedora licensing page: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/Fonts Wasn't the case when I wrote this :p Many thanks, -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: ECHO: Issues
It was kind of metaphor. Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 15:32 -0500, Luya Tshimbalanga pisze: > > Hi, > > you know I'll be fighing... So I'm. > > Quick comment. That is what we were waiting for, showing the list of issues so > we can see them. Just relax, it is not a fight. > -- ___ _ | _|___ _| |___ ___ ___ | _| -_| . | . | _| . | |_| |___|___|___|_| |___|_ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek Fedora Project http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: ECHO: Issues
> Hi, > you know I'll be fighing... So I'm. Quick comment. That is what we were waiting for, showing the list of issues so we can see them. Just relax, it is not a fight. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
You're just ignoring any art progress made by GNOME.
You're ("art designers") just ignoring everything new and making Fedora
inconsistent.
Yet again you ignore me. I will not waste any more of my time. If I see
another flamewar started by you I will put your posts on moderation.
~m
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Re: Request for project icon and logo
You're just ignoring any art progress made by GNOME.
You're ("art designers") just ignoring everything new and making Fedora
inconsistent.
EOT
Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 14:21 -0500, Máirín Duffy pisze:
> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> > Listen, if every tv-viewer would look like old russian's everyone
> > (almost) would take american.
> >
> > Russian tv-viewer is old GNOME style and non-guidelined-style.
> > American tv-viewer is modern Tango! style.
> >
> > Verdict?
>
> You are certainly entitled to your opinion about Tango vs. everything
> else, but I believe everybody on this list is and has been for some time
> now QUITE CLEAR on your opinion on that.
>
> Repeating yourself over and over and/or being more loud/angry/etc is not
> going to help your cause so I would recommend that you take up another
> strategy. You've been given much advice to this end from myself and
> others and I don't care to waste any more of my time dispensing yet more
> advice that I have spent my valuable time writing up for you in the past
> since it seems you have ignored it.
>
> Right now, I see you causing a lot of issues in this community. What are
> you bringing to the table in exchange?
>
> Everyone is entitled to their opinion and even to share their opinion,
> but enough is enough.
>
> ~m
> (list moderator)
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Re: Request for project icon and logo
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Listen, if every tv-viewer would look like old russian's everyone (almost) would take american. Russian tv-viewer is old GNOME style and non-guidelined-style. American tv-viewer is modern Tango! style. Verdict? You are certainly entitled to your opinion about Tango vs. everything else, but I believe everybody on this list is and has been for some time now QUITE CLEAR on your opinion on that. Repeating yourself over and over and/or being more loud/angry/etc is not going to help your cause so I would recommend that you take up another strategy. You've been given much advice to this end from myself and others and I don't care to waste any more of my time dispensing yet more advice that I have spent my valuable time writing up for you in the past since it seems you have ignored it. Right now, I see you causing a lot of issues in this community. What are you bringing to the table in exchange? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and even to share their opinion, but enough is enough. ~m (list moderator) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
Listen, if every tv-viewer would look like old russian's everyone (almost) would take american. Russian tv-viewer is old GNOME style and non-guidelined-style. American tv-viewer is modern Tango! style. Verdict? Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 14:09 -0500, Máirín Duffy pisze: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > One year before. I'm 15. > > But it has nothing to do with my behavior. > > Don't be vicious. > > How am I being vicious? I am just stating a fact. > > I think you were rather vicious to Nicu though... whether or not that is > a product of immaturity/age I make no judgements on. > > ~m > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ___ _ | _|___ _| |___ ___ ___ | _| -_| . | . | _| . | |_| |___|___|___|_| |___|_ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek Fedora Project http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: One year before. I'm 15. But it has nothing to do with my behavior. Don't be vicious. How am I being vicious? I am just stating a fact. I think you were rather vicious to Nicu though... whether or not that is a product of immaturity/age I make no judgements on. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
One year before. I'm 15. But it has nothing to do with my behavior. Don't be vicious. Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 13:45 -0500, Máirín Duffy pisze: > John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 14:17 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > >> I just want you to turn on "future" thinking. > >> Tango is fresh and modern. You want GNOME to look inconsistent like KDE3 > >> with all the apps? Ok... It would be only you fault. > > > > Jakub, you are being divisive. '"future" thinking' is some phrase > > straight out of an Orwellian novel. Personally if I was going to mark > > something as the future it would be the OS X style guide. And stop with > > the peer pressure, it's all your fault crap. What are we in high > > school? > > I think Jakub is in high school :) > > ~m > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ___ _ | _|___ _| |___ ___ ___ | _| -_| . | . | _| . | |_| |___|___|___|_| |___|_ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek Fedora Project http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
John (J5) Palmieri wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 14:17 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: I just want you to turn on "future" thinking. Tango is fresh and modern. You want GNOME to look inconsistent like KDE3 with all the apps? Ok... It would be only you fault. Jakub, you are being divisive. '"future" thinking' is some phrase straight out of an Orwellian novel. Personally if I was going to mark something as the future it would be the OS X style guide. And stop with the peer pressure, it's all your fault crap. What are we in high school? I think Jakub is in high school :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 14:17 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > I just want you to turn on "future" thinking. > Tango is fresh and modern. You want GNOME to look inconsistent like KDE3 > with all the apps? Ok... It would be only you fault. Jakub, you are being divisive. '"future" thinking' is some phrase straight out of an Orwellian novel. Personally if I was going to mark something as the future it would be the OS X style guide. And stop with the peer pressure, it's all your fault crap. What are we in high school? > > Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 15:11 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze: > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > > Guys, do it in modern style, Tango style. > > > > 1. I said those are "unpolished sketches"; > > 2. I don't care for Tango; > > 3. J5 didn't asked for Tango, he asked for a logo, which is not supposed > > to follow a theme guideline *and* an icon; > > 4. I included sources, if you (Jakub) think I got a metaphor right but > > the wrong style, fell free to modify it. > > > > > Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 13:24 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze: > > >> Here are a couple of unpolished sketches. > > > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 15:40 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > I just want you to turn on "future" thinking. > > Tango is fresh and modern. You want GNOME to look inconsistent like KDE3 > > with all the apps? Ok... It would be only you fault. > > Or I could use the Echo style, right? > >:) Nick, don't listen to Jakub. I like your sketches. The one with the magnifying glass is cool. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
Please, don't. Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 15:40 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > I just want you to turn on "future" thinking. > > Tango is fresh and modern. You want GNOME to look inconsistent like KDE3 > > with all the apps? Ok... It would be only you fault. > > Or I could use the Echo style, right? > >:) > -- ___ _ | _|___ _| |___ ___ ___ | _| -_| . | . | _| . | |_| |___|___|___|_| |___|_ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek Fedora Project http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: I just want you to turn on "future" thinking. Tango is fresh and modern. You want GNOME to look inconsistent like KDE3 with all the apps? Ok... It would be only you fault. Or I could use the Echo style, right? >:) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
I just want you to turn on "future" thinking. Tango is fresh and modern. You want GNOME to look inconsistent like KDE3 with all the apps? Ok... It would be only you fault. Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 15:11 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > Guys, do it in modern style, Tango style. > > 1. I said those are "unpolished sketches"; > 2. I don't care for Tango; > 3. J5 didn't asked for Tango, he asked for a logo, which is not supposed > to follow a theme guideline *and* an icon; > 4. I included sources, if you (Jakub) think I got a metaphor right but > the wrong style, fell free to modify it. > > > Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 13:24 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze: > >> Here are a couple of unpolished sketches. > > -- ___ _ | _|___ _| |___ ___ ___ | _| -_| . | . | _| . | |_| |___|___|___|_| |___|_ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek Fedora Project http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Guys, do it in modern style, Tango style. 1. I said those are "unpolished sketches"; 2. I don't care for Tango; 3. J5 didn't asked for Tango, he asked for a logo, which is not supposed to follow a theme guideline *and* an icon; 4. I included sources, if you (Jakub) think I got a metaphor right but the wrong style, fell free to modify it. Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 13:24 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze: Here are a couple of unpolished sketches. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Request for project icon and logo
Guys, do it in modern style, Tango style. Dnia 26-11-2007, pon o godzinie 13:24 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze: > John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > Hey guys I have a project I am releasing through Fedora. It is called > > D-Feet and is a GTK+ based debugger for D-Bus. Go wild, I just want > > something that is readily identifiable. > > Here are a couple of unpolished sketches. > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ___ _ | _|___ _| |___ ___ ___ | _| -_| . | . | _| . | |_| |___|___|___|_| |___|_ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek Fedora Project http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
