Round 1
The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): Listed chronologically: - CODE 9TO9, by Jiri http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/CODE9TO9 - Freedom, by Michael http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom - Waves, by Martin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night Electric Sphere, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere - At Last, by Andrew http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/AtLast - Shoowa, by Luya http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa I also blogged about them - http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/01/fedora-9-themes-round-1.html Please comment. My favorite is Waves, seconded by Freedom and Night. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
hey there, I'm not really sure to be here on the correct list but I like to tell you something personal :-) I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked the 9TO9 most ... and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than somebody can realize my thoughts. When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? Just my thoughts and ideas and also not really sure to post correct here. Feel free to post it in the correct ML Thanks and ... just my five cents GeroldKa The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): Listed chronologically: - CODE 9TO9, by Jiri http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/CODE9TO9 - Freedom, by Michael http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom - Waves, by Martin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night Electric Sphere, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere - At Last, by Andrew http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/AtLast - Shoowa, by Luya http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa I also blogged about them - http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/01/fedora-9-themes-round-1.html Please comment. My favorite is Waves, seconded by Freedom and Night. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Some updates.
2008/1/10, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/9, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark a écrit : 2008/1/7, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Camera set icon got more modifications. The inline is more lighter to allow a better transition between value to produce a more volumetric shape[1]. Document-save got revisited to address the issue about the use of floppy disk. It now uses the hard disk drive based from drive-harddisk icon.[2] Document-save-as got the same treatment but smaller icons are not done yet. More new and modified icons to come soon. Luya Hey, i like the new camera icon more than the previous one but this time with the critic that it could use some more contrast. The shape is fine! just play a bit with some colors. Updated version available[1] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/ And for document-save.. if i see that icon in a application i would have never guessed that it stands for saving a document. That icon on it's own looks fine but just not for document-save. Perhaps it's better to use a floppy for the saving icon? Floppy disk has been replaced by hard disk drive for document-save. I made a naked version following Martin's suggestion.[2] Luya References [1]http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/ [2]http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/ The save icon looks good to me now. The camera icon can still use some more color changes if you ask me. Try making it in the colors of that hard drive. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I'm not a graphic... I can't edit it, because I have no skills. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set
[1] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save22b.png [2] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save22b.svg [3] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save24b.png [4] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save24b.svg [5] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save16b.png [6] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save16b.svg [7] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save32b.png [8] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save32b.svg [9] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save48b.png [10] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save48b.svg Nice, but doesn't look like HDD at all. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Some updates.
Mark a écrit : The save icon looks good to me now. The camera icon can still use some more color changes if you ask me. Try making it in the colors of that hard drive. Here is the latest set of camera-photo icons. That will be the final draft as I would like to focus on other icons. Luya http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo16j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo16j.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo22j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo22j.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo24j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo24j.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo32j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo32j.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo48j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo48j.svg inline: camera-photo48j.pnginline: camera-photo48j.svg___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Gerold wrote: I'm not really sure to be here on the correct list but I like to tell you something personal :-) You give feed-back about one of the proposals, so you are at least partly on-topic. I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked the 9TO9 most ... and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than somebody can realize my thoughts. When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may be even a bar code). And I think I got an idea about the implementation: we can have a SVG as background. Is easy to modify that SVG file, is XML, but you can do a test search and replace (with sed).So I believe it can be done (but I suspect the current Nautilus won't notice the SVG update on the fly). Just my thoughts and ideas and also not really sure to post correct here. Feel free to post it in the correct ML -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Jan 10, 2008 1:53 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerold wrote: I'm not really sure to be here on the correct list but I like to tell you something personal :-) You give feed-back about one of the proposals, so you are at least partly on-topic. I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked the 9TO9 most ... and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than somebody can realize my thoughts. When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may be even a bar code). And I think I got an idea about the implementation: we can have a SVG as background. Is easy to modify that SVG file, is XML, but you can do a test search and replace (with sed).So I believe it can be done (but I suspect the current Nautilus won't notice the SVG update on the fly). I like this idea too... About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. Just my thoughts and ideas and also not really sure to post correct here. Feel free to post it in the correct ML -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
for all of you blue loving geekets and geeks :)
http://www.colourlovers.com/blog/2008/01/09/happy-blue-year-2008-color-trends/ are you happy now? :) ps. I would love that art team tries and does one release that is not blue, just for a change. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Thursday 10 January 2008 15:45:51 Nicu Buculei wrote: Laith Juwaidah wrote: Gerold wrote: I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked the 9TO9 most ... and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than somebody can realize my thoughts. When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. PNG or SVG, this is an implementation detail, the important part would be to get traction from the desktop guys to accept such a change. And as implementation details, I feel working with PNGs is more complicated: you will need installed something like ImageMagik (which is not available by default in a desktop install) to be able to generate the image PNG and do the composition, with SVG is just a text search and replace. Sorry :D I just thought that SVGs can't be used as backgrounds, my bad. -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night this is #1 Electric Sphere, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere and this is #2 for me. Electris sphere would be much better if done in 3D and not in vectors IMHO. Valent. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Laith Juwaidah wrote: About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. PNG or SVG, this is an implementation detail, the important part would be to get traction from the desktop guys to accept such a change. And as implementation details, I feel working with PNGs is more complicated: you will need installed something like ImageMagik (which is not available by default in a desktop install) to be able to generate the image PNG and do the composition, with SVG is just a text search and replace. Hmm, maybe when the profile is sent up to smolt, the image is generated on the server and the system grabs it? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Laith Juwaidah wrote: About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. PNG or SVG, this is an implementation detail, the important part would be to get traction from the desktop guys to accept such a change. And as implementation details, I feel working with PNGs is more complicated: you will need installed something like ImageMagik (which is not available by default in a desktop install) to be able to generate the image PNG and do the composition, with SVG is just a text search and replace. Hmm, maybe when the profile is sent up to smolt, the image is generated on the server and the system grabs it? ~m Máirín, WONDERFULL idea, so we also get the people who installed counted with the exclusivly, unique and personalized Wallpaper with the own account ... I like that idea very much; and also Mike is happy to get some more smolt-sender :-) Who will take the lead to bring such an idea to Max / Mike or whom it may concern? regards Gerold ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 10:11 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: 2008/1/9, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Valent Turkovic a écrit : I know that lot of things you can't change because Gnome is responsible for that. Nobody has touched gnome panels design wise since FC1, maybe I'm overstating it but it looks like that to me. New theme isn't needed just in present one do something with gnome panels. Why are gnome panels so plain? You mean Fedora 3 because the previous version only has one bottom panel. The difficulty is also to consider usability when it comes to artwork. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list GNOME is very usable, but two panels can be confusing solution. Next thing I don't like is the default menu in the top panel. This menu have no favourites. I dislike it. Actually I find 2 panels to be much better than one. The favourites are handled in the bottom panel (by hand, as I am the one who knows best what I'd like to have accessible via one-click) as well as some applets like volume setting, trash, log out, lock screen, run, notify area and virtual desktop switcher... In the top one I have menu, window list and some applets that say whats going on (i.e. how much network traffic I have, how much CPU is used and what datum and time is it). I find it very convenient, easy to manage and fast to use, much better than only when panel setting - to me it seems one panel for all the things I'd like to have accessible on one click is not very useful... (as a matter of fact, when I occasionally use windows I find the one panel with start menu quite confusing and shortcoming of space). But what I want to say with it, the default configuration is chosen to fit most of the gnome users, but not everyone use it as is, but make their own layout, but still I think two panels have much more positives than negatives over one panel. Also having the menu on the top is nice, since application menus are on the top of window as well, so it is more logical. Just my 2$. Btw. if you'd like the default panel configuration changed, make your proposal on the fedora-desktop-list [1], I am sure they'll gladly discuss it with you. Martin References: [1] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list [2] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/screenshots/panels.png - what panel layout I find to work the best for me signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Gerold wrote: I like that idea very much; and also Mike is happy to get some more smolt-sender :-) Who will take the lead to bring such an idea to Max / Mike or whom it may concern? You, as you where the one you came with the idea in the first place :p Seriously, this is hot the things works: you don't have to wait for anyone else, take the initiative and follow it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Hi Nicu, Thanks for writing this up :) Here are some of my thoughts on the round 1 proposals: Nicu Buculei wrote: The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): Listed chronologically: - CODE 9TO9, by Jiri http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/CODE9TO9 - It's an interesting concept but I think visually it could be more exciting if the 9-pointed shape was shown from a different angle other than straight on. - The colors used are sort of towards the more pastel-ish blue which is what we used for f8 so I think maybe more bold colors might be good just so there is more of a change from f8. - We traditionally do not have version numbers in the artwork so I don't know if the one with just the 9 is a good idea. I don't think the graphic needs numbers to 'explain itself' - rather it's an interesting idea to have a 9-pointed star shape as the focus of a series of abstract visual compositions. - One thing I am happy about with this concept is that beyond the number 9, it does relate to Fedora: 'endless' and 'cyclic' pretty much represent 'infinity'. - What does algorithm 9483726159 mean? - One last thing, while the shape is endless and cyclic, when I look at it those aren't the first ideas that come to mind, maybe there is a better way to visually express that - maybe having arrow heads or some pointed/directional shapes in the pattern? - Freedom, by Michael http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom - I think the concept of freedom is great but I am not sure that these visualizations are the best way to communicate that idea. Usage of imagery about someone escaping being chained up don't always evoke ideas about 'the good guy was wrongfully jailed but now he is free.' It might make people thing about escaped 'bad guys' too, or maybe it will make people think Fedora is a bunch of escaped software pirates. (See what I mean?) It's not the most positive imagery as is right now, but your last sketch, the one with the window - I think that one is the best one, as it puts some emphasis on the positives of freedom. I would make that window bigger and bolder... or maybe the entire focus. - As per the above comment, I think maybe this idea could merge with the At Last theme... which I think visually depicts the idea of freedom but in a more positive way. - The chain sketch does remind me a bit of the Fedora DNA theme. Actually at one point I did a series of paintings, each to depict a different Fedora concept, and the one I did for 'freedom' showed a chain made out of the Fedora infinity logo getting broken. I don't actually have access to that graphic right now but if I can find it I will send it to you. I did have some struggles with it visually to make it look like a broken chain - if I just drew a broken chain without using the infinity symbol to do it then it wouldn't relate to the other paintings in the set (which were entirely constructed of Fedora logo parts, see [1] and [2]) - Waves, by Martin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - I really like the idea of this one - the main reason is that waves/water are very natural, and we have gotten a lot of feedback about how folks would like to see more 'natural' themes in Fedora. GNOME upstream also has been working to bring 'nature' to the desktop so it also fits nicely with what they are doing. But it is 'nature' our way - water is symbolized by blue as is Fedora. - This is very calming imagery - especially the first sketch. Very good for a computer which may at times be quite frustrating. :) It really reminds me of a Japanese zen garden (as I mentioned on the page) and the pattern of the stones. - I *love* *love* *love* the suggestion from TrondDanielsen - I think it would be cool if the pattern would change during the day to make the waves propagate outward just like the current theme changes colors during the day. That would be SO awesome - I think the 2nd sketch is the weakest. It seems very mathematical and abstract, and I guess I am very excited about the idea of bringing 'nature' to a very 'unnatural' thing (a computer) so I am least enthusiastic about this one. We just had an abstract/wavy-line theme in f8 so the change the other two sketches suggest are much more exciting to me. - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night - I am not sure how this relates to Fedora conceptually at all? There doesn't seem to be an explanation? - It seems very similar to f7's theme in basic layout and I think it would be cool if we did something more fresh. - I guess I can't really say much else. :( The scene is drawn nicely but I don't see how it relates to Fedora. Electric Sphere, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere - Again I am not sure how this relates to Fedora conceptually. What is it trying to say? - At Last, by
Re: [Echo] Some updates.
2008/1/10, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark a écrit : The save icon looks good to me now. The camera icon can still use some more color changes if you ask me. Try making it in the colors of that hard drive. Here is the latest set of camera-photo icons. That will be the final draft as I would like to focus on other icons. Luya http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo16j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo16j.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo22j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo22j.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo24j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo24j.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo32j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo32j.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo48j.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/devices/camera-photo48j.svg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Nice. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
2008/1/10, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 10:11 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: 2008/1/9, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Valent Turkovic a écrit : I know that lot of things you can't change because Gnome is responsible for that. Nobody has touched gnome panels design wise since FC1, maybe I'm overstating it but it looks like that to me. New theme isn't needed just in present one do something with gnome panels. Why are gnome panels so plain? You mean Fedora 3 because the previous version only has one bottom panel. The difficulty is also to consider usability when it comes to artwork. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list GNOME is very usable, but two panels can be confusing solution. Next thing I don't like is the default menu in the top panel. This menu have no favourites. I dislike it. Actually I find 2 panels to be much better than one. The favourites are handled in the bottom panel (by hand, as I am the one who knows best what I'd like to have accessible via one-click) as well as some applets like volume setting, trash, log out, lock screen, run, notify area and virtual desktop switcher... In the top one I have menu, window list and some applets that say whats going on (i.e. how much network traffic I have, how much CPU is used and what datum and time is it). I find it very convenient, easy to manage and fast to use, much better than only when panel setting - to me it seems one panel for all the things I'd like to have accessible on one click is not very useful... (as a matter of fact, when I occasionally use windows I find the one panel with start menu quite confusing and shortcoming of space). But what I want to say with it, the default configuration is chosen to fit most of the gnome users, but not everyone use it as is, but make their own layout, but still I think two panels have much more positives than negatives over one panel. Also having the menu on the top is nice, since application menus are on the top of window as well, so it is more logical. Just my 2$. Btw. if you'd like the default panel configuration changed, make your proposal on the fedora-desktop-list [1], I am sure they'll gladly discuss it with you. Martin References: [1] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list [2] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/screenshots/panels.png - what panel layout I find to work the best for me ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I dislike favourites etc in panels/dock. I even hate it. Menu with favourites is better idea imo. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
I dislike them, but there's a hope in the end. These are only mockups. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Round 1 feedback
Morning all. For purely personal reasons, (Baha'i) I like the 9to9 nine pointed star concept most. My second choice would be Mola's electric sphere for the old techno-whiz feeling, with Martin's waves running a close third for continuity and infinitely radiating idea. Hope it helps. Dan ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 10:16 +0100, Gerold wrote: When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? The thing about this is that screenshots using this background will be able to identify the specific machine. I agree that it's not a fatal problem, but it is a potential privacy violation that the end-user needs to be made aware of. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Gerold wrote: I like that idea very much; and also Mike is happy to get some more smolt-sender :-) Who will take the lead to bring such an idea to Max / Mike or whom it may concern? You, as you where the one you came with the idea in the first place :p Seriously, this is hot the things works: you don't have to wait for anyone else, take the initiative and follow it. If anything, taking the initiative and doing it yourself is the fastest way to getting your idea implemented. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 15:38 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: I dislike favourites etc in panels/dock. I even hate it. Menu with favourites is better idea imo. And what I hate is having a favourites menu which is constantly changing its contents. As for having a favourites menu, I am sure it's not such a hard task to make it. I just tried it and it's quite easy, though it might be even easier. Just right-click on the menu and select edit, I am sure you'll think up the rest (hint: drag'n'drop between menus, and the 'create new menu' might help a bit ;) See what I just made (in a few minutes, without any previous knowledge about menu editing) [1]. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ Martin References [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/screenshots/menu-favourites.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set
New update about the set of document-save(-as) http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as16b.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as16b.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as22b.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as22b.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as24b.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as24b.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as32b.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as32b.svg http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as48b.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/document-save-as48b.svg Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Some updates.
2008/1/10, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark a écrit : The save icon looks good to me now. The camera icon can still use some more color changes if you ask me. Try making it in the colors of that hard drive. Here is the latest set of camera-photo icons. That will be the final draft as I would like to focus on other icons. Luya I don't have anymore critics now! it's looking wonderful now! just 16x16 isn't fitting in now ^_^ but for the rest it's a very good job! all done with inkscape? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Some updates.
Mark a écrit : I don't have anymore critics now! it's looking wonderful now! just 16x16 isn't fitting in now ^_^ but for the rest it's a very good job! all done with inkscape? Yes, all done with inkscape. I have attached the modified 16x16 to match other. Luya inline: camera-photo16j.pnginline: camera-photo16j.svg___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Any update on the Echo icon theme status list (and the todo list)
Hey, There are a lot of echo icons here [1] but i don't know if the gallery is up to date there..? Also the fedora wiki has a echo todo list. Is that up to date? And for the last one. if i recall right there was a page where the current fedora theme was compared to the echo theme (also something of a status page) but i can't find that page anymore. Where is it hidden and is that up to date? I'm not having a lot of free time to make icons (if they work out at all) but i just want to try some. [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/IconThemeStatus/Actions Mark. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Some updates.
2008/1/10, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark a écrit : I don't have anymore critics now! it's looking wonderful now! just 16x16 isn't fitting in now ^_^ but for the rest it's a very good job! all done with inkscape? Yes, all done with inkscape. I have attached the modified 16x16 to match other. Luya Now quit working on this while it's at it's best ^_^. btw document save(as) are also fine as they are in your last revision. On to the next icon. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Any update on the Echo icon theme status list (and the todo list)
Here is the page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/EchoToDo/Menus Yes, the menu is not up to date yet. There are some small change in rawhide but not worth to get a major change yet. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Any update on the Echo icon theme status list (and the todo list)
2008/1/10, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is the page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/EchoToDo/Menus Yes, the menu is not up to date yet. There are some small change in rawhide but not worth to get a major change yet. Luya Thanx for that. And is the echo icon git repository up to date? The icons i want to give a try: software-installer/updater (third or fourth attempt.. i keep trying this one) package(zip/bzip(2)/tar/rar/arj etc) icons new login (idea: 1. a user icon in front of a screen or 2. a lock in front of a screen) all selinux icons (new star + wall? (like in fireWALL) wine icons (not on the list) I can't promise that i make any of those.. i will just give it a try and hope to show something in the coming days. Mark ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Any update on the Echo icon theme status list (and the todo list)
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:50 +0100, Mark wrote: [snip] package(zip/bzip(2)/tar/rar/arj etc) icons [snip] Would be best if you used the one from lighting section of the guidelines [1]. I can send a SVG of this one only (i.e. not being together with the other icons). Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Hi, just a note 2008/1/10, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Nicu, Thanks for writing this up :) Here are some of my thoughts on the round 1 proposals: Nicu Buculei wrote: The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): Listed chronologically: - CODE 9TO9, by Jiri http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/CODE9TO9 - It's an interesting concept but I think visually it could be more exciting if the 9-pointed shape was shown from a different angle other than straight on. - The colors used are sort of towards the more pastel-ish blue which is what we used for f8 so I think maybe more bold colors might be good just so there is more of a change from f8. - We traditionally do not have version numbers in the artwork so I don't know if the one with just the 9 is a good idea. I don't think the graphic needs numbers to 'explain itself' - rather it's an interesting idea to have a 9-pointed star shape as the focus of a series of abstract visual compositions. - One thing I am happy about with this concept is that beyond the number 9, it does relate to Fedora: 'endless' and 'cyclic' pretty much represent 'infinity'. - What does algorithm 9483726159 mean? The algorhitm is needed when you want to draw this star by one line, so, tip nine points around the circle and turn the line form 9 to 4, from 4 to 8, and sothis is the magic of this theme... - One last thing, while the shape is endless and cyclic, when I look at it those aren't the first ideas that come to mind, maybe there is a better way to visually express that - maybe having arrow heads or some pointed/directional shapes in the pattern? - Freedom, by Michael http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom - I think the concept of freedom is great but I am not sure that these visualizations are the best way to communicate that idea. Usage of imagery about someone escaping being chained up don't always evoke ideas about 'the good guy was wrongfully jailed but now he is free.' It might make people thing about escaped 'bad guys' too, or maybe it will make people think Fedora is a bunch of escaped software pirates. (See what I mean?) It's not the most positive imagery as is right now, but your last sketch, the one with the window - I think that one is the best one, as it puts some emphasis on the positives of freedom. I would make that window bigger and bolder... or maybe the entire focus. - As per the above comment, I think maybe this idea could merge with the At Last theme... which I think visually depicts the idea of freedom but in a more positive way. - The chain sketch does remind me a bit of the Fedora DNA theme. Actually at one point I did a series of paintings, each to depict a different Fedora concept, and the one I did for 'freedom' showed a chain made out of the Fedora infinity logo getting broken. I don't actually have access to that graphic right now but if I can find it I will send it to you. I did have some struggles with it visually to make it look like a broken chain - if I just drew a broken chain without using the infinity symbol to do it then it wouldn't relate to the other paintings in the set (which were entirely constructed of Fedora logo parts, see [1] and [2]) - Waves, by Martin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - I really like the idea of this one - the main reason is that waves/water are very natural, and we have gotten a lot of feedback about how folks would like to see more 'natural' themes in Fedora. GNOME upstream also has been working to bring 'nature' to the desktop so it also fits nicely with what they are doing. But it is 'nature' our way - water is symbolized by blue as is Fedora. - This is very calming imagery - especially the first sketch. Very good for a computer which may at times be quite frustrating. :) It really reminds me of a Japanese zen garden (as I mentioned on the page) and the pattern of the stones. - I *love* *love* *love* the suggestion from TrondDanielsen - I think it would be cool if the pattern would change during the day to make the waves propagate outward just like the current theme changes colors during the day. That would be SO awesome - I think the 2nd sketch is the weakest. It seems very mathematical and abstract, and I guess I am very excited about the idea of bringing 'nature' to a very 'unnatural' thing (a computer) so I am least enthusiastic about this one. We just had an abstract/wavy-line theme in f8 so the change the other two sketches suggest are much more exciting to me. - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night - I am not sure how this relates to Fedora conceptually at all? There doesn't seem to be an explanation? - It seems very similar to f7's theme in basic layout and I think it would be
