Re: Echo: system-login-new attempt
2008/1/13, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And again a new one.. changelog * made a simple wallpaper in the screen * added password start in the screen together with a password field * made the user icon even more brighter (about the brightest colors that can be chosen in the guideline) If there are no suggestions for this one than it's a finished icon for me. with the exception of the creation of the 16x16 image. Mark. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list That little person... It looks odd. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo: package-x-generic attempt 10
Hm, I've just opened it in ikscape to see why it looks like looked at through mist, and the main problem here is clearly the outline. Please use darker colour on the outlines than on the icon itself. Brighter borders work good only in some special cases (or with dark icons). Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
2008/1/13, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New update about the set of multimedia-volume-control. Luya References -- http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/multimedia-volume-control16a.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/multimedia-volume-control16a.png Drop the gear like type.. the rest looks better now though sizes smaller than 48x48 and bigger than 16x16 might still be a bit to dark ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
2008/1/13, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/13, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New update about the set of multimedia-volume-control. Luya References -- http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/multimedia-volume-control16a.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/multimedia-volume-control16a.png Drop the gear like type.. the rest looks better now though sizes smaller than 48x48 and bigger than 16x16 might still be a bit to dark Oke i made one for you. see the attached file(s). attachment: multimedia-volume-control16b.pngattachment: multimedia-volume-control16b.svg___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo: package-x-generic attempt 10
the preferences-desktop icon is about as bright as this one is now. So i think it fits perfectly. 2008/1/13, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/13, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/13, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hm, I've just opened it in ikscape to see why it looks like looked at through mist, and the main problem here is clearly the outline. Please use darker colour on the outlines than on the icon itself. Brighter borders work good only in some special cases (or with dark icons). Martin And here is the promised update. It's amazing what a simple border color change can do in a image. the complete image now looks darker than before while it's really only the border that's changed. comments and critics? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Isn't it too bright? -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:48 +0100, Mark wrote: 2008/1/13, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/13, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New update about the set of multimedia-volume-control. Luya References -- http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/multimedia-volume-control16a.png http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/multimedia-volume-control16a.png Drop the gear like type.. the rest looks better now though sizes smaller than 48x48 and bigger than 16x16 might still be a bit to dark Oke i made one for you. see the attached file(s). This one is great! Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo: package-x-generic attempt 10
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:53 +0100, Mark wrote: the preferences-desktop icon is about as bright as this one is now. So i think it fits perfectly. Not at all (IMO). It's not only about how bright it physically is, but also how bright it feels, and in that case you need to compare it with icons that will be together with it. I created an image where I compare folder-network (since it has both globe which is used for more mimetypes and a folder which is quite often seen in nautilus), your package-x-generic and the one from guidelines. You can compare for yourself. I think you should see that your package looks odd among the other two (while good by itself). Solution offers itself. Make it darker and make the colours more vibrant, or take the one from guidelines and work a little on the gradients if you think it is too dark. Martin attachment: compare.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo: package-x-generic attempt 10
2008/1/13, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:53 +0100, Mark wrote: the preferences-desktop icon is about as bright as this one is now. So i think it fits perfectly. Not at all (IMO). It's not only about how bright it physically is, but also how bright it feels, and in that case you need to compare it with icons that will be together with it. I created an image where I compare folder-network (since it has both globe which is used for more mimetypes and a folder which is quite often seen in nautilus), your package-x-generic and the one from guidelines. You can compare for yourself. I think you should see that your package looks odd among the other two (while good by itself). Solution offers itself. Make it darker and make the colours more vibrant, or take the one from guidelines and work a little on the gradients if you think it is too dark. Martin i could redo all the folder icons in the same colors as this box of mine ^_^ than it will fit in echo. but seriously. the current package icon is way to dark.. and if you make the comparison than please do it with the new globe you made (the one with the stars(?) in it) than it might fit better. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
2008/1/13, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:48 +0100, Mark wrote: This one is great! Martin Thanx Martin! you don't often say that for icons (that i've made). Mark. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: Steven Garrity wrote: Please look these two screenshots: http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBLhttp://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL One is FC6 and other is F8. Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and too bland IMHO. I would love to see Fedora 9 get the gtk theme it deserves. So slowing down design really sound bad to me. Valent. I saw these two quite long quite a long ago and you were told, that the difference is obvious, though subtle. As for the Fedora 9 gtk theme. So far this [1] seems what will be in Fedora 9, although there is still room for improvement. But why don't you come up with something awesome yourself? We are all doing our best while you seem to just rant about how things would be better. Because I have no actual creative talent but as I said in my email I have an critic eye and I have been volonteering as a critic for my friends and family for over 10 years - they are photographers, designers, 3d modelers and artists and I'm really respected for my constructive criticism. I can't create a new gtk theme but I can say to you if one sucks or or if it rocks. You can look for yourself for some ideas: http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/linuxutil/gnome/gtk2/?order=9alltime=yes http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=downpage=0xcontentmode=100 There are lots of great themes. I don't work for fedora ArtTeam but I'm a long time fedora desktop user and I would love to see some improvements in how fedora looks. I know that lot of people work hard and I really appreciate it, and I have seen what great designs they have done ( ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Valent, Valent Turkovic wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Whenever we try anything that is !blue, we get a whole lot of negative feedback. People like to look at the colors far more symbolically than they should I think. ~m I don't like opensuse in particular but they have made a break from blue in latest release - now its green, and it looks great! I would love to see Fedora !blue for at least one release - it would be refreshing. Everyone has their own personal tastes and opinions on the artwork. Unfortunately, only a very small percentage of those folks actually contribute to the artwork. If you would like to truly influence the artwork though, you will need to take a more active, participatory role on the art team. It have the ability to bring some really talented people to fedora and they will contribute, but they use proprietary tools (photoshop and the like). Is that forbidden to use non OSS apps in making fedora themes? I heard that before in some post but I wasn't sure so please clarify. This list is, for the most part, for the art team members to coordinate and discuss contributions to the artwork. While we do like hearing feedback from a variety of users, please understand that can cannot please everyone nor should it be expected that we cater to any particular piece of feedback we receive. In the past we have been asked to try colors other than blue and were met with a lot of negative feedback. I do not know if it is worth another try. I saw some older posts... I can't believe what people said about purple color. I was also amazed to hear that as did you from what I saw. If you have a particular concept or design that you would like to mock up and share with us that does not use the color blue, I am sure we would all be interested in seeing it, but please do not expect that someone will do it for you just because you mentioned it here. ~m Sure. Thank you. Valent. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo: package-x-generic attempt 10
2008/1/13, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/13, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:53 +0100, Mark wrote: the preferences-desktop icon is about as bright as this one is now. So i think it fits perfectly. Not at all (IMO). It's not only about how bright it physically is, but also how bright it feels, and in that case you need to compare it with icons that will be together with it. I created an image where I compare folder-network (since it has both globe which is used for more mimetypes and a folder which is quite often seen in nautilus), your package-x-generic and the one from guidelines. You can compare for yourself. I think you should see that your package looks odd among the other two (while good by itself). Solution offers itself. Make it darker and make the colours more vibrant, or take the one from guidelines and work a little on the gradients if you think it is too dark. Martin i could redo all the folder icons in the same colors as this box of mine ^_^ than it will fit in echo. but seriously. the current package icon is way to dark.. and if you make the comparison than please do it with the new globe you made (the one with the stars(?) in it) than it might fit better. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Leave the folders alone! They're alive, full of live, colors. Your box looks dead : . -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
2008/1/13, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/13, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:48 +0100, Mark wrote: This one is great! Martin Thanx Martin! you don't often say that for icons (that i've made). Mark. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list It's good to critique. After receiving critique you can make better art. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Jan 10, 2008 12:53 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may be even a bar code). This is NOT a good idea. The whole point of the smolt ids are that they are suppose to be somewhat anonymous. If the id numbers are encoded into the desktop, by default, without people's knowledge, then people doing screencasts using the default desktops are essentially leaking smolt id information without their express knowledge. You want to use another random algorithm based on system entropy to produce uniqueness..fine... but don't use the smolt id as the basis of the uniquness for the desktop image generation in any way please. Considering the choices made concerning how smolt operates I would have a real hard time support seeing any such smolt id based graphics generation being shipped in fedora. It's not self-consistent with the effort put into smolt to get the id's anonymous. -jefHey instead of the smolt id, for US citizens lets encoded the social security number into the desktop imagespaleta ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
Valent Turkovic wrote: It have the ability to bring some really talented people to fedora and they will contribute, but they use proprietary tools (photoshop and the like). Is that forbidden to use non OSS apps in making fedora themes? I heard that before in some post but I wasn't sure so please clarify. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork I don't think it is a rule but using the tools within Fedora is definitely strongly encouraged. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
RE: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 22, Issue 42
Hi all, I have been signed up to help for some time, but never did find out who to email and such so I hope no one minds me throwing in a hello here. My name is Paul and I don't really know where to begin. For one, I don't have Fedora right now since my hard drive took a powder and Fedora with it. Anyway, I do a lot of graphics with Gimp and have had numerous jobs, won contests, and even offered a teaching job at our local college to teach Graphics with Gimp. So, being I would like to help out in any way I can, if there is anything, opinion, CG work, etc... that I can do, I would be glad to help. Thanks all, Paul From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 22, Issue 42 To: fedora-art-list@redhat.com Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:22:22 -0500 Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to fedora-art-list@redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork (Valent Turkovic) 2. Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork (Valent Turkovic) 3. Re: Echo: package-x-generic attempt 10 (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) 4. Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) 5. Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons (Luya Tshimbalanga) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:24:34 +0100 From: Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: Steven Garrity wrote: Please look these two screenshots: http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBLhttp://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL One is FC6 and other is F8. Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and too bland IMHO. I would love to see Fedora 9 get the gtk theme it deserves. So slowing down design really sound bad to me. Valent. I saw these two quite long quite a long ago and you were told, that the difference is obvious, though subtle. As for the Fedora 9 gtk theme. So far this [1] seems what will be in Fedora 9, although there is still room for improvement. But why don't you come up with something awesome yourself? We are all doing our best while you seem to just rant about how things would be better. Because I have no actual creative talent but as I said in my email I have an critic eye and I have been volonteering as a critic for my friends and family for over 10 years - they are photographers, designers, 3d modelers and artists and I'm really respected for my constructive criticism. I can't create a new gtk theme but I can say to you if one sucks or or if it rocks. You can look for yourself for some ideas: http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/linuxutil/gnome/gtk2/?order=9alltime=yes http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=downpage=0xcontentmode=100 There are lots of great themes. I don't work for fedora ArtTeam but I'm a long time fedora desktop user and I would love to see some improvements in how fedora looks. I know that lot of people work hard and I really appreciate it, and I have seen what great designs they have done ( -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20080113/3a6cc0be/attachment.html -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:58:31 +0100 From: Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Valent, Valent Turkovic wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Whenever we try anything that is !blue, we get a whole lot of negative feedback. People like to look at the colors far more symbolically than they should I think. ~m I don't like opensuse in particular but they have made a break from blue in latest release - now its green, and it looks great! I would love to see Fedora !blue for at least one release - it would be refreshing. Everyone has their own personal tastes and opinions on the artwork. Unfortunately, only a very small percentage
