Re: new tshirts

2008-02-04 Thread Gerold
*bang**bang**bang*

Nicu, you're one of the guys who do a lot of and imho great work for us ...

I don't want to beat you down :-)

As written; I only wondered, see that modification of the logo and thought
I missed something; what can really happen (why not?) *g*

So feel free and modify again; you're Art-Team, me is only a small German
Ambassador who needs some times a lot of things from the Art-Team

Wish you a nice week-start

Gerold


 Gerold Kassube wrote:

 please excuse, but I have a basicly question because of the logo which
 is shown on the page ...
 Have we changed it in that way like Nico did, or did I miss that part?
 If not, I'll ask if its allowed to do so, manipulating a given
 brand ...

 It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my
 head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I
 was wrong.

 My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing,
 with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to
 the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some
 kind of dithering for light blue.

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Art-Work for Sulphur - Fedora 9

2008-02-04 Thread Gerold
Hi there,

I want to ask if there is a draft of creating a technical chemical
Art-Work of the new version of Fedora like the abstract of the
Rutherford atomic-model or the Bohrsches Atomic-modell of Sulphur ...

Personally I mention that this can look quite good.

do you agree? Or do we have other ideas?

regards

gerold

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Re: [Linuxtag-fedora] (Swag for) Linuxtag

2008-02-04 Thread JoergSimon
Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 05:04:14 schrieb Sandro red Mathys:
 Joerg: can the polo shirt supplier provide any specific color?

http://www.santafetex.com/Pique-Polo/9,1,25,68227,1.html

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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

Jeff Spaleta wrote:

On Feb 3, 2008 10:48 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing,
with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to
the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some
kind of dithering for light blue.


We don't have an official single color version of the logo already?


Nope - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines

The closest we have is black and white, but that is not single color, 
is black and gray.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-04 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Feb 3, 2008 10:48 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my
 head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I
 was wrong.

 My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing,
 with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to
 the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some
 kind of dithering for light blue.

We don't have an official single color version of the logo already?

-jef

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echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set

2008-02-04 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek

hi,

you know my opinion about echo:

	* it causes mixing of tangoish style and echo, because of well used 
tango style and lack of icon in echo
	* they are not complete and they cannot cover some icons because of 
hardcoded pixmaps (not to accept is hardcoding echo instead of fixing that)

* echo looks like childs play

that was my subjective opinion. now some facts (0.3.1-1.fc8):

* blurry gedit
* blurry gcalctool
* non-echo gnome-screenshot
* non-echo dictionary
* non-echo file-roller
* non-echo sound-juicer
* non-echo gimp
* non-echo inkscape
* non-echo gconf-editor
* non-echo nautilus
* non-echo gnome-mount
* non-echo prefferred apps
* non-echo keyboard prefs
* non-echo appearance
* non-echo windows
* non-echo personal file sharing
* non-echo date and time
* non-echo screen
* non-echo root's password
* non-echo neat-control (network interfaces control tool)
* non-echo grub configuration tool
* non-echo services
* non-echo authorization
* non-echo users and groups
* non-echo sound
* non-echo firewall
* non-echo lvm
* non-echo gtk-help
* non-echo gtk-close
* no svgs
* low visibility of panel volume icons
* too much of transparency in system-search/whatever it is

what I want you to tell? we cannot use that icons, becase we'll be 
mixing styles (that's a fact you must understand).


even if you can stand on your head, you cannot change this.

fedora should follow new fashion of tangoish artwork and should provide 
tangoish icons where possible to make its configuration tools integrate 
better with gnome (because without rewriting they'll never be 
kde-compiliant).


why icons are *so* important? because love at first sight may occur.

also, have you even seen ubuntu... ie. hardy heron? it also mixes styles 
and don't look so good with this... but ubuntu is not mixing 
*perspectives* as fedora is gonna do.


people are happy that fedora has used tangoish icons - they said it 
looks so modern etc. hylke bons said that in one of his entries.


should we dissapoint them with incomplete bluecurve-inherited bluecurve 
replacement?


i don't think so.

tango guidelines are well know. their pallette may look dirty, but it's 
yet vibrant and looks good on both dark and light backgrounds. thanks to 
the border (part of tango guidelines).


echo contains slight borders, slight gradient and too big contrast of 
colors.



i said before, that i think that echo in tango styl would look 
interesting and modern, but didn't heard me.


also, you wanted to show some examples of echo's issues.

i've shown them to you, but you haven't even answered me...

ignorance?

fedora is not brought only to you, but to all.

i want you to see the nonsense of echo.

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Generic Posterdesign

2008-02-04 Thread JoergSimon
Hi,

the Februrary/March is the time of many events in Europe (FOSDEM, CLT, 
OpenExpo, FOD2008)

On Linuxtag2007 we produced some huge textile banner and generic Fedora 
Posters. The Banners worked well, but the generic Posters not, because the 
visitors (and to be honest i also) did´nt like it very much.

http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/lt07/img058.jpeg
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Posters

We think the blue area is to big for a Poster.
Now we decided on FAD2007, that we need generic Posters 
http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/FAD3.pdf (10MB) written somewhere on Page27
- we want print them on robust rubber foil (don´t know if this the right word) 
so we can use it more often and not only for one release.

So here is my question, could you provide us a generic Posterdesign for Size 
A0? 
Who is able to make a generic Poster template till 12.02.08?

My suggestion to put the design(s) to 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Posters

Thanks Joerg
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Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest

2008-02-04 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Due to a busy schedule from graphic design classes, I regret to announce the
withdrawal of the contest thus giving more rooms for other contestants.

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Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest)

2008-02-04 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hi folks,

Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:

Due to a busy schedule from graphic design classes, I regret to announce the
withdrawal of the contest thus giving more rooms for other contestants.


I am wondering if a week extension would be useful for folks who are 
still busily working on round 2? (I know it would be a big help to me :) 
) We did this for the F8 theme too and saw good results from the 
extension. What do folks think?


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Re: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest)

2008-02-04 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hey Nicu,

Nicu Buculei wrote:

Máirín Duffy wrote:


I am wondering if a week extension would be useful for folks who are 
still busily working on round 2? (I know it would be a big help to me 
:) ) We did this for the F8 theme too and saw good results from the 
extension. What do folks think?


It does make sense, today is the last day and we don't have even *one* 
submission ready for Round 2. We can use the small delay in the Alpha 
schedule as an excuse for our extension...


But a serious question: if people have not worked on their themes for 
one full month, will they work in one additional week?
Maybe something is broken with the 3 rounds process and we should fix it 
for the future releases?


My excuse is vacation and then being super busy having to catch up after 
vacation :( I think maybe we haven't publicized / simply talked about 
the rounds enough this time. The back and forth conversation does help 
to remind and motivate folks I think. I do feel partially responsible 
and I've been quite glad you've picked up the slack with mailing list 
deadline reminders and blog posts.


When we pushed back a week for F8, we did get a lot of additional work 
in that week so I think it's worth a shot. So I do think it can be 
effective.


Some good news, I think Waves is almost ready to meet the round 2 
requirements. There was an earlier idea of linking sulphur to the waves 
to match the f9 codename so I have been working on some mockups of this. 
It just needs an accompanying wallpaper:


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-98516747c8faef74057e3963e09f522ba7a3ca7b

They do need some further refinement of course but I think they are 
developed enough to get a feel for what it would look like. One worry I 
have is maybe it is just too dark? But maybe a lighter wallpaper to go 
along with it would make the darkness a little easier to take? Maybe it 
should use dark blue instead of grey? I'm not sure. Any ideas?


~m

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Re: [Linuxtag-fedora] (Swag for) Linuxtag

2008-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for the link. According to the supplier's page, we need to change the
light blue a little.

See the new mockup attached. I reckon this still looks neat with the white type
logo.

Art team: please CC me if you're responding to our list. The list will bounce
non-member mails and I'm not sure if anyone will wave them through.

Regards
red

JoergSimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat am 4. Februar 2008 um 09:32
geschrieben:

 Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 05:04:14 schrieb Sandro red Mathys:
  Joerg: can the polo shirt supplier provide any specific color?
 
 http://www.santafetex.com/Pique-Polo/9,1,25,68227,1.html
 
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Re: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest)

2008-02-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:


I am wondering if a week extension would be useful for folks who are 
still busily working on round 2? (I know it would be a big help to me :) 
) We did this for the F8 theme too and saw good results from the 
extension. What do folks think?


It does make sense, today is the last day and we don't have even *one* 
submission ready for Round 2. We can use the small delay in the Alpha 
schedule as an excuse for our extension...


But a serious question: if people have not worked on their themes for 
one full month, will they work in one additional week?
Maybe something is broken with the 3 rounds process and we should fix it 
for the future releases?


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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-04 Thread Máirín Duffy

Jeff Spaleta wrote:

On Feb 3, 2008 10:48 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my
head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I
was wrong.

My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing,
with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to
the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some
kind of dithering for light blue.


We don't have an official single color version of the logo already?


Nope, there is no official version of a single color Fedora logo. We 
have a black and white version but it's really black, white, and grey. 
The version that Nicu came up with is really the only possible way to 
make the Fedora logo one-color. If there should be an official one-color 
version I would say Nicu's should be it, however, whenever possible I 
think we should avoid it just because it's easier to make out the 'f' in 
at least two colors.


~m

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Re: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest)

2008-02-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:


My excuse is vacation and then being super busy having to catch up after 
vacation :( I think maybe we haven't publicized / simply talked about 
the rounds enough this time. The back and forth conversation does help 
to remind and motivate folks I think. I do feel partially responsible 
and I've been quite glad you've picked up the slack with mailing list 
deadline reminders and blog posts.


And I was busy with some personal projects involving clipart and 
tutorials, but the thing is the process should not be blocked by a 
temporary lack of availability from you, me or some other person.
Some of the people with proposals in Round 1 have blogs and their blogs 
are aggregated to planet Fedora, nobody posted updates there and on the 
list, AFAIK, only Mola and that was one single time. Like they abandoned 
the work after Round 1.


When we pushed back a week for F8, we did get a lot of additional work 
in that week so I think it's worth a shot. So I do think it can be 
effective.


And this may be a problem. You personally saved Infinity in its last 
week, if we need to save Waves in the last week too, maybe we should 
rethink the schedule or the process for F10.


Some good news, I think Waves is almost ready to meet the round 2 
requirements. There was an earlier idea of linking sulphur to the waves 
to match the f9 codename so I have been working on some mockups of this. 
It just needs an accompanying wallpaper:


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-98516747c8faef74057e3963e09f522ba7a3ca7b 


YES!!!
Almost like how I was thinking about it (but without my tendency to go 
overboard)


They do need some further refinement of course but I think they are 
developed enough to get a feel for what it would look like. One worry I 
have is maybe it is just too dark? But maybe a lighter wallpaper to go 
along with it would make the darkness a little easier to take? Maybe it 
should use dark blue instead of grey? I'm not sure. Any ideas?


We can alternate: F8 was light, F9 will be darker...
Maybe make the grey to have a hue of blue, a blue-grey.

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