Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Martin Sourada

On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 13:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Nicu Buculei wrote:
  Martin Sourada wrote:
  I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I
  decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither
  that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached
  it to the page [1]. 
  
  I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the 
  base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to 
  splashes (the deadline is coming).
  So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are 
  going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here...
 
 Gray.
 
 Rahul
 
Mid-blue (wallpaper.4).

Martin


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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Máirín Duffy

Nicu Buculei wrote:

Martin Sourada wrote:

I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I
decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither
that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached
it to the page [1]. 


I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the 
base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to 
splashes (the deadline is coming).
So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are 
going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here...


I like the grey best... I had settled on it after trying blue.

I have been meaning to play with the sulphur itself to add a blue glow. 
Maybe the supporting artwork could have more blue, maybe with grey 
accents to match, but the wallpaper would be grey?


From the initial feedback on the mockups it seemed a lot of people 
welcomed the change to grey as a change of pace.


~m

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Fedora India Wallpaper

2008-02-26 Thread Kushal Das
Hi,

I just made this , my first wallpaper.
http://kushaldas.in/india3.png

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Re: Fedora India Wallpaper

2008-02-26 Thread Kushal Das
On Tuesday 26 February 2008 10:06:22 pm Nicu Buculei wrote:
 That is not bad for your first one, keep up with the work!

 I would make the halo (white blur) more softer and do something to the
 logo - add also a halo, a shadow, a highlight, something. (how about
 moving it under the highlight on the land?)
I still don't understand these words properly :( Can you please make a few 
screencasts with audio for the newbies like me :) 


 Also you may want to play a bit with the position and not have
 everything in the center, for example
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds (but you can use other
 composition techniques).
I use that for photography, never thought of using that here though :)

 And you may want to do something with the background (the water): plain
 color is a bit boring, use a gradient or a texture.
Will use these techniques and will make a few derivatives .

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Re: Fedora India Wallpaper

2008-02-26 Thread Nicu Buculei

Kushal Das wrote:

I just made this , my first wallpaper.
http://kushaldas.in/india3.png


That is not bad for your first one, keep up with the work!

I would make the halo (white blur) more softer and do something to the 
logo - add also a halo, a shadow, a highlight, something. (how about 
moving it under the highlight on the land?)


Also you may want to play a bit with the position and not have 
everything in the center, for example 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds (but you can use other 
composition techniques).


And you may want to do something with the background (the water): plain 
color is a bit boring, use a gradient or a texture.


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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Michael Beckwith
I'm going to go with the darkest blue wallpapers. One of the last 2 
under the Round 3 header. I think something that we could change for 
color for that feature is either some of the shades of the sulfur or 
perhaps the colors of the waves.


Nicu Buculei wrote:

Martin Sourada wrote:

I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I
decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither
that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached
it to the page [1]. 


I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the 
base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to 
splashes (the deadline is coming).
So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we 
are going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here...



References:
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves






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Re: Fedora India Wallpaper

2008-02-26 Thread Nicu Buculei

Kushal Das wrote:

On Tuesday 26 February 2008 10:06:22 pm Nicu Buculei wrote:

That is not bad for your first one, keep up with the work!

I would make the halo (white blur) more softer and do something to the
logo - add also a halo, a shadow, a highlight, something. (how about
moving it under the highlight on the land?)
I still don't understand these words properly :( Can you please make a few 
screencasts with audio for the newbies like me :) 


Well, neither of us is a native English speaker :D

- you have the big India shape and under it a white hallo - for that I 
would either increase the blur amount, increase the transparency or both;
- maybe do the same thing with the bubble logo, either leave it white 
and call it a hallo or make it black and call it a shadow;
- for the India shape you use a light blue-gray color and a light zone 
in the upper part, the highlight. I think it would be interesting to do 
something similar for the bubble;
- alternatively, you have the land object, the land higlight objet over 
it and the logo bubble over that. You can change the Z-order and have: 
land, logo bubble, land highlight.


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Re: Fedora India Wallpaper

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Kushal Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

  I just made this , my first wallpaper.
  http://kushaldas.in/india3.png


You know what would be...keen
Overlaying the client density map of India from the mirrorlist map
with what you have there... to make an artistic topology map of what
fedora usage in India looks like

-jef

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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:45 AM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have been meaning to play with the sulphur itself to add a blue glow.
  Maybe the supporting artwork could have more blue, maybe with grey
  accents to match, but the wallpaper would be grey?

burning sulfur.

   From the initial feedback on the mockups it seemed a lot of people
  welcomed the change to grey as a change of pace.

I really really want to see blue...but everything i see with the
sulfur yellows and blues together hasn't really worked for me. The
grey and yellow works. Playing with the burning sulfur metaphor to
bring in some blue hilights might do the trick.

-jef

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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Martin Sourada

On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 09:45 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
 Nicu Buculei wrote:
  Martin Sourada wrote:
  I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I
  decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither
  that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached
  it to the page [1]. 
  
  I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the 
  base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to 
  splashes (the deadline is coming).
  So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are 
  going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here...
 
 I like the grey best... I had settled on it after trying blue.
 
 I have been meaning to play with the sulphur itself to add a blue glow. 
 Maybe the supporting artwork could have more blue, maybe with grey 
 accents to match, but the wallpaper would be grey?
 
Which reminds me, I really liked the third banner available for Alpha
Release [1], would you be able to do a wallpaper using this styling? I
especially like the blueish halo and strong transition between the sea
and the sky.

  From the initial feedback on the mockups it seemed a lot of people 
 welcomed the change to grey as a change of pace.
 
 ~m
 
Well, I noticed it as well, and I like the grey version a lot, but I
guess I could not get used much to such colours. I prefer more saturated
ones, the grey feels a little depressing, like if it was a sea/sky on
some distant inhabited planet composed mostly of lava-like surface. But
don't care about me, I'm probably the only one with this feeling
anyway :-D 

And some technical comment, grey gradients tend to not look smooth on
weaker/older/cheap lcd displays, while saturated ones are usually
better...

Martin

References:
[1] 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=fedora9alpha-banner2_mo.png


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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Máirín Duffy

Jeff Spaleta wrote:

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:45 AM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been meaning to play with the sulphur itself to add a blue glow.
 Maybe the supporting artwork could have more blue, maybe with grey
 accents to match, but the wallpaper would be grey?


burning sulfur.

  From the initial feedback on the mockups it seemed a lot of people
 welcomed the change to grey as a change of pace.


I really really want to see blue...but everything i see with the
sulfur yellows and blues together hasn't really worked for me. The
grey and yellow works. Playing with the burning sulfur metaphor to
bring in some blue hilights might do the trick.


Well here's my first attempt:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b

Had another idea to make the flames a bigger part of the concept, 
hopefully i'll get a chance to sketch that tommorrow.


~m

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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hey Martin,

Martin Sourada wrote:

Well, I noticed it as well, and I like the grey version a lot, but I
guess I could not get used much to such colours. I prefer more saturated
ones, the grey feels a little depressing, like if it was a sea/sky on
some distant inhabited planet composed mostly of lava-like surface. But
don't care about me, I'm probably the only one with this feeling
anyway :-D 


It is a little depressing on the one hand, but on the other it is very 
non-distracting, perfect for a default wallpaper.


And some technical comment, grey gradients tend to not look smooth on
weaker/older/cheap lcd displays, while saturated ones are usually
better...


I've never heard this before?

~m

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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well here's my first attempt:
  
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b

  Had another idea to make the flames a bigger part of the concept,
  hopefully i'll get a chance to sketch that tommorrow.


That's pretty good i think. I think its a workable way to get blue into there.

1) The edge between the sulfur crystal and the flame feels a bit heavy.

2) You might think about pulling back the flame such that its not
rising from the full width of the crystal. Perhaps just burning the
edge of the crystal...perhaps... the leading edge.  Fedora Sulfur:
What's Hot on the Leading Edge of Open Software.

-jef

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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:


Well here's my first attempt:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b 


I like where are you going with this.
Maybe make the flame look more like a flame and not like a blue cloud? 
Even if it not so realistic (considering the photo from wikimedia 
commons), it may be better distinguishable.


Had another idea to make the flames a bigger part of the concept, 
hopefully i'll get a chance to sketch that tommorrow.


And a drop of red molten sulfur? (but a small one)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Burning-sulfur.png

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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Nicu Buculei

Martin Sourada wrote:

Perhaps. Come to think of it, how is the alternative artwork project
going? I think we could provide (a) package(s) with alternative
wallpapers for F9?


I am not aware about any new developments on this front, but it is 
trivial to package and include additional *wallpapers*, you have only to 
create a RPM which will deploy some PNG (and maybe XML for 
animation/multiple resolution) in a certain directory.


The real problem was for the alternate artwork to replace the entire 
look, from grub from rhgb to wallpaper, but I think this is not on the 
agenda anymore (it was an issue a year ago).


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Re: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves

2008-02-26 Thread Martin Sourada

On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 23:16 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
 Hey Martin,
 
 Martin Sourada wrote:
  Well, I noticed it as well, and I like the grey version a lot, but I
  guess I could not get used much to such colours. I prefer more saturated
  ones, the grey feels a little depressing, like if it was a sea/sky on
  some distant inhabited planet composed mostly of lava-like surface. But
  don't care about me, I'm probably the only one with this feeling
  anyway :-D 
 
 It is a little depressing on the one hand, but on the other it is very 
 non-distracting, perfect for a default wallpaper.
Perhaps. Come to think of it, how is the alternative artwork project
going? I think we could provide (a) package(s) with alternative
wallpapers for F9?

  
  And some technical comment, grey gradients tend to not look smooth on
  weaker/older/cheap lcd displays, while saturated ones are usually
  better...
 
 I've never heard this before?
 
 ~m
 
I don't know the technical details, but whenever I read some tests of
LCD monitors, one of the tests they usually do is a test of quality of
display of greys and that's usually where the cheaper LCD fails. But I
think it's getting better with newer technologies.

Martin


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