Re: Waves Grub Artwork
Dnia 11-03-2008, wto o godzinie 01:57 -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ pisze: Hey folks, I came up with the attached after a couple days' work. Let me know what you think! I attached the artwork as well as the xpm.gz. Copy it over to /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if you want) and reboot to check it out in action. One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That was it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. Nice try :) . -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ signature.asc Description: To jest część wiadomości podpisana cyfrowo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Grub Artwork
Máirín Duffy wrote: I came up with the attached after a couple days' work. Let me know what you think! I attached the artwork as well as the xpm.gz. Copy it over to /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if you want) and reboot to check it out in action. You wanted a less blue, grayish background. This splash is you moving from gray to more blue or is a blue grub splash and a gray desktop wallpaper. One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That was it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. Looking at the image I felt the urge to play with it :p Namely to try a version where the logo and the waves are not centered, however I have a problem: dithering. Which dithering method have you used? Everything I try with GIMP does not match your result, even starting from your original SVG (I get some ugly artifacts which I could clean manually, but I don't think you did so). So what dithering method have you used? I recently changed my monitor and went from 4:3 to widescreen. I know we have here some hard limitation with the current version of GRUB and the splash *must* be 640x480 (GRUB 2, which may be the solution, is still away from us) *but* the logo looks ugly, it is deformed (we can't avoid this, on that resolution on a widescreen the pixels are not square). I think we can try a workaround: just not use the bubble logo, maybe put just a sulfur crystal and leave it as that, unbranded (hoping the deformation on the crystal is less noticeable). Or is the corner case of GRUB on widescreen display shown only for a couple of seconds when nobody is looking anyway too narrow and we can live with a deformed logo? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
howto print posters?
Hi, I would like to print these posters: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( I would like to sent them the print file in vector format if possible, is there any other option beside exporting posters as bitmaps? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: howto print posters?
Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I would like to print these posters: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( I would like to sent them the print file in vector format if possible, is there any other option beside exporting posters as bitmaps? Cheers, Valent. Hi Valent! Did you try Inkscape from trunk? pdf support is a bit better than in previous versions. (you can set dpi etc.) Another thing you can try is to import the svg's (or bitmaps in worst case) into scribus and generate a pdf from there, although I'm not sure how good the svg support is in the stable version, so you might need to compile that one from source as well. The scribus output will give you a document in cmyk, unlike Inkscape were you'll just get rgb (even though the printer can just convert it for you in most cases). Very nice posters, btw! - Andreas ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Grub Artwork
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Nice try :) . What do you mean try? If you having nothing helpful to say, you are better off saying nothing! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Grub Artwork
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: I came up with the attached after a couple days' work. Let me know what you think! I attached the artwork as well as the xpm.gz. Copy it over to /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if you want) and reboot to check it out in action. You wanted a less blue, grayish background. This splash is you moving from gray to more blue or is a blue grub splash and a gray desktop wallpaper. Yeah. :( Let me explain why - we're kind of going with a slightly blue-tinted water color in the latest wallpapers. So I tried to match that. However, the more grey + blue I have, the worse the color indexing comes out, so after much trial and error I kept getting closer and closer and ended up with a very Fedora 3-esque blue bcakground - it's closer to the logo colors so it limits the color palette making the index image a bit smoother. :( What do you recommend? One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That was it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. Looking at the image I felt the urge to play with it :p Namely to try a version where the logo and the waves are not centered, however I have a problem: dithering. Which dithering method have you used? I used Floyd-Steinberg (reduced color bleeding). I had to do a little bit of manual tweaking in the center around the logo - maybe 20 pixels replaced where way too bright pixels had shown up. I also did the 'TM' letters manually so they'd be crisp and readabe. Everything I try with GIMP does not match your result, even starting from your original SVG (I get some ugly artifacts which I could clean manually, but I don't think you did so). So what dithering method have you used? Yep, I did!! I cheated :) I recently changed my monitor and went from 4:3 to widescreen. I know we have here some hard limitation with the current version of GRUB and the splash *must* be 640x480 (GRUB 2, which may be the solution, is still away from us) *but* the logo looks ugly, it is deformed (we can't avoid this, on that resolution on a widescreen the pixels are not square). I think we can try a workaround: just not use the bubble logo, maybe put just a sulfur crystal and leave it as that, unbranded (hoping the deformation on the crystal is less noticeable). Or is the corner case of GRUB on widescreen display shown only for a couple of seconds when nobody is looking anyway too narrow and we can live with a deformed logo? You know, that is why I went with the 'fedora' logotype only in the F8 artwork and not the Fedora infinity logo. I did that one on my widescreen monitor. I did this one on my normal 1024x768 monitor. ;) It definitely seems a good idea to try it with just the sulphur crystal. Grub should always say 'Fedora' in the kernel lines text above anyway so it should be clear that this is Fedora. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Grub Artwork
Michael Beckwith wrote: Ooh, I'm liking this. Perhaps some lighter colors(maybe I'll try that part tomorrow), and this could be in business. Awesome, would love to see what you come up with. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Grub Artwork
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey folks, I came up with the attached after a couple days' work. Let me know what you think! I attached the artwork as well as the xpm.gz. Copy it over to /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if you want) and reboot to check it out in action. One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That was it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. ~m I like the design - but colors are a bit dark. Is fedora in some murky waters? :) Valent. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: howto print posters?
Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I would like to print these posters: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( I would like to sent them the print file in vector format if possible, is there any other option beside exporting posters as bitmaps? This is a question I am interested also to hear an answer. I found the print people usually very hard to work with, refusing to hear that Corel Draw or Adobe Illustrator can open SVG and accepting only a small selection of file types (I canceled a print request for an unrelated poster last week on Friday). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Newbie Intro
Frank Murphy wrote: Hi, Hi Frank, Apologies for any bandwidth concerns. No problem New to list, haven't don't the other secure bits yet, ssh. have an unsigned gpg key as of yesterday. Welcome! Haven't an art degree, just ncva level 2 (Ireland), in art (animation) Then you have better degrees than me :D The most important is what one can do, so don't worry. Newish to linux, love fedora (would love an art spin) like the artwork I've seen so far. I understand you know we have somewhere in a far to-do list the Art Studio spin. My still to be worked on site is here: http://www.frankly3d.com Those images are made with Blender or are you using another 3D modeling application? Hopefully I will be up to speed, with linux art by the time maybe F10-11 comes about. Right now we approach the final stage of F9 theming, will have to polish some desktop graphics, create some website graphics and some print materials. There is also the continual icon development stuff, GTK+ stuff and a lot of smaller tasks [1], fell free to get your feet wet with any of those. [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Newbie Intro
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 14:58 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: My still to be worked on site is here: http://www.frankly3d.com Those images are made with Blender or are you using another 3D modeling application? They were done at the time with Bryce \ Poser (Landscapes \ Figures). Frank ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: howto print posters?
Hi... I work with that kind of stuff... and this is what I have to do: Step 1: If you're sending this to a companny to get them printed first make your *.svg full and export it over 300DPI(PPP) into a *.png Step 2: take that *.png and open it with GIMP... save it as *.tif or *.psd Step 3: Sent it to get it printed. Hope this help. - Hola...yo trabajo con este tipo de cosas... y esto es lo que tengo que hacer: Paso 1: Si vas a enviar esto a una compañia para que te lo impriman primero has el *.svg completo y exportalo sobre los 300DPI(PPP) en formato *.png Paso 2: Toma ese *.png y abrelo con GIMP... guardalo como *.tif o como *.psd Paso 3: Envialo a la imprenta Espero esto ayude Salutex! 2008/3/12, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I would like to print these posters: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( I would like to sent them the print file in vector format if possible, is there any other option beside exporting posters as bitmaps? This is a question I am interested also to hear an answer. I found the print people usually very hard to work with, refusing to hear that Corel Draw or Adobe Illustrator can open SVG and accepting only a small selection of file types (I canceled a print request for an unrelated poster last week on Friday). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Newbie Intro
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 15:45 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: This is not a hard written rule, but we try as much as possible to eat our own dog food, that is, to theme Feodora using tools available in Fedora. As it should be And one lesson we learned the hard way in the past (with Bluecurve icons) is that for the source files of our artwork, availability in file formats which can be opened by applications in our distro is very important. So expect a very heavy bias here for FOSS tools and applications. No problem with that. Frank ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
