Re: sulphuric waves backgrounds
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:38 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > Hey all, I'm working on the second revision for the desktop backgrounds. > I've got the following basic ideas implemented: > - Gradients for different times of day basically taken from F8 wallpapers, >in turn keeping the transition between each a lot less dramatic > - Having the sulphur burning at sunset and at night, but not during the >day or sunrise (it doesn't seem to fit) > - Using Martin's basic wallpaper template, except slightly blurring and >transparenting the bottom "ocean" to make the sky flow more in tune with >the waves > > The PNGs and SVGs are available at [1]. Please let me know what you think > :) -- ian > > [1] http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/sulphuric-waves/ > Hi, great work! No critics from me. What about uploading to wiki, is there any special reason why you uploaded it to fedorapeople instead? If it's because the clutter of the wiki page I suggest to make a "Final" sub-page and put the designs there (together with other things like GRUB, rhgb, ...). Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Firstboot Design
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 23:41 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Here's my first attempt at the firstboot banner for Waves. What do you > > think? > Actually, looking at it a little bit closer, there appears to be a seam > in the waves right under the Fedora logo/sulphur. The waves should > probably be more continuous -- is that done intentionally? -- ian Most would not catch it, but the "sulpher-berg", does draw the eye down. Maybe blend the very dark bits of the horizon in. Frank ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
sulphuric waves backgrounds
Hey all, I'm working on the second revision for the desktop backgrounds. I've got the following basic ideas implemented: - Gradients for different times of day basically taken from F8 wallpapers, in turn keeping the transition between each a lot less dramatic - Having the sulphur burning at sunset and at night, but not during the day or sunrise (it doesn't seem to fit) - Using Martin's basic wallpaper template, except slightly blurring and transparenting the bottom "ocean" to make the sky flow more in tune with the waves The PNGs and SVGs are available at [1]. Please let me know what you think :) -- ian [1] http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/sulphuric-waves/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves RHGB design
Hi, the Fedora logo could be smaller, I guess about 80% of actual size, try it and you 'll see... JJM 2008/3/13, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi folks, > > See attached, what do you think? It borrows heavily from the basic f8 > layout. > > One thing I thought might be cool is if we did a custom gtkrc just for > rhgb so that the progress bar here would be the same color yellow as the > sulphur? > > > ~m > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- I'm still learning English... Jiří Jakub Mašek - Mr Jiri Jakub Masek Moravia, Czech Republic, European Union ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Firstboot Design
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Michael Beckwith wrote: Jon Stanley wrote: +1. The desk around the computer looks too cluttered and busy though, IMHO, but what do I know, I'm no artist!. :) I think the desk clutter is leftover from previous implementations It is. I personally find no reason that it should be drastically changed, since it's really quite good, and isn't specific to any version. -- ian ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Firstboot Design
Jon Stanley wrote: 2008/3/13 Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Oh wow, I really like the Fedora logo with the sulphur around it. Maybe it could be used for other things where space is constrained... ;) +1. The desk around the computer looks too cluttered and busy though, IMHO, but what do I know, I'm no artist!. :) Great work! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I think the desk clutter is leftover from previous implementations -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Firstboot Design
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's my first attempt at the firstboot banner for Waves. What do you think? Actually, looking at it a little bit closer, there appears to be a seam in the waves right under the Fedora logo/sulphur. The waves should probably be more continuous -- is that done intentionally? -- ian___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Firstboot Design
2008/3/13 Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Oh wow, I really like the Fedora logo with the sulphur around it. Maybe > it could be used for other things where space is constrained... ;) +1. The desk around the computer looks too cluttered and busy though, IMHO, but what do I know, I'm no artist!. :) Great work! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Firstboot Design
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's my first attempt at the firstboot banner for Waves. What do you think? Oh wow, I really like the Fedora logo with the sulphur around it. Maybe it could be used for other things where space is constrained... ;) -- ian___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves RHGB design
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: See attached, what do you think? It borrows heavily from the basic f8 layout. Looks good to me. One thing I thought might be cool is if we did a custom gtkrc just for rhgb so that the progress bar here would be the same color yellow as the sulphur? I think it would kinda look out of place without the sulphur somewhere else on the screen too, and it doesn't necessarily fit anywhere, so I'm not really for it. -- ian___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: Jeff Spaleta wrote: Máirín would need to flush out the idea a little more and create a typical workflow for joining. Here's my suggested strawman. 0) A recruit would need to affirmatively 'sign-out' a task with a deadline for completion. So noone else is working on it. I think the workflow should be much simpler... creating a hackergotchi was used as an example (but we have similarly "complex" tasks open): for someone who know his way with GIMP it is a 10 minutes task at most... say 1 hour for a newbie. A deadline with extension and progress monitoring looks like overkill here. On the contrary, if we start receiving a massive influx of new contributors, we'd need some sort of infrastructure to keep things relatively sane. I think some sort of webapp should be written up instead of using a wiki page. The wiki page seems disorganized, and I had to look for it at first, since I never even knew it existed. :D It's long -- and I plan to get a few of those things done... -- ian___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the workflow should be much simpler... creating a hackergotchi I was thinking more along the lines of banners. Since I sort of expect hackergotchi opportunities to run dry quickly. Unless of course, they are making their own hackergotchi. -jef ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
Jeff Spaleta wrote: Máirín would need to flush out the idea a little more and create a typical workflow for joining. Here's my suggested strawman. 0) A recruit would need to affirmatively 'sign-out' a task with a deadline for completion. So noone else is working on it. I think the workflow should be much simpler... creating a hackergotchi was used as an example (but we have similarly "complex" tasks open): for someone who know his way with GIMP it is a 10 minutes task at most... say 1 hour for a newbie. A deadline with extension and progress monitoring looks like overkill here. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 12:46 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: How about complete at least one minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) At the moment, would fail the test, as am not up the speed with the F8 graphics apps, was reared in the other "county", the closed one. This is about being included in the Art group of the Account System, not about contributing to the mailing list, asking question, giving feedback and such. Is about granting some rights to known contributors. Is OK to request membership when you consider yourself ready. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
Máirín Duffy wrote: Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts to post a self-introduction to the list? How about complete at least one minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) And this would help us clearing a bit the DesignService queue at the same time, win-win :D We might want to go through the current accounts, contact the inactive account owners to see if they still intend to get involved in the group, and if we don't hear back from them in x time or if they indicate they are not interested, remove their accounts from the group. There are some users *we know* will not come back and contribute to Fedora... We've been getting a lot of account requests lately and while I do know a few folks who are working on things, there are a lot of names that I don't recognize and I haven't seen active on the list or working on projects that we are aware of at least. Adding someone to the art group For a large number of people in the group I don't remember seeing *a single* post on this list. is a big deal because it gives them the right to vote in Fedora elections I think among other things. The marketing group had proposed an introduction requirement to add people to the group and I was thinking it might be good for us to have a better policy as well. Considering the power allowed, it make sense to require some kind of introduction and maybe a *small* task (which may be formal: the person has contributed in the past to an external Fedora oriented site, has contributed to another Fedora project sounds like acceptable credentials to me). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
2008/3/12 Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > At the moment, would fail the test, as am not up the speed with the F8 > graphics apps, was reared in the other "county", the closed one. I think that's exactly the point. Using a minor design task as a way to mentor a new person in how to do things. Once you make it through the task you get rewarded with art group membership and the infrastructure access that comes with it. If you don't have the skills necessary, then its a training opportunity. Its a parallel with how our packaging contributor access works. You don't get cvs write access until you've gone through a package submission and review process to make sure you are doing things the right way. Máirín would need to flush out the idea a little more and create a typical workflow for joining. Here's my suggested strawman. 0) A recruit would need to affirmatively 'sign-out' a task with a deadline for completion. So noone else is working on it. 1) Possibly assign an Art team mentor to them. 2) And then the recruit communicate on the list for help doing things and showing drafts for feedback. If there is a mentor, the mentor helps them with things like getting use to the new toolset. But its not meant to be a hand-holding role. 3) If the deadline comes and the don't have a finished item, the art team (or an assigned mentor) decides to extend the deadline or not based on the person's progress. 4) if the deadline is extended repeat 2 and 3 until some maximum time. You need a maximum time so that this one item doesn't get stuck in the que forever. 5) if the maximum time for the age of the item is reached then the sponsor needs to do the task. 6) if the deadline isn't extended the item goes back at the head of the que. -jef ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Michael Beckwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll second the mandatory self-introduction idea. Requiring a minor task > like a hackergotchi or something from the design queue will end up > potentially running those areas dry and then someone who wants to get > involved has to wait for something new to show up. Last I saw, > hackergotchi designing is already covered pretty fast. Uhm...i've got about 30 different banner ideas that I'm just sitting on. If the well runs dry, I'm sure we can find a way to fill it back up with small tasks to do. -jef ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 12:46 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts > to post a self-introduction to the list? Newbie here, list only at the moment. If the list needs more info just holler. > How about complete at least one > minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) At the moment, would fail the test, as am not up the speed with the F8 graphics apps, was reared in the other "county", the closed one. > We might want to go through the current accounts, contact the inactive > account owners to see if they still intend to get involved in the group, > and if we don't hear back from them in x time or if they indicate they > are not interested, remove their accounts from the group. Havn't got to that part, yet and will stick to the "list" (if allowed) until up to foss speed Apologies for not adding pgp key, still figuring it out. Frank signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
I'll second the mandatory self-introduction idea. Requiring a minor task like a hackergotchi or something from the design queue will end up potentially running those areas dry and then someone who wants to get involved has to wait for something new to show up. Last I saw, hackergotchi designing is already covered pretty fast. Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi folks, Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts to post a self-introduction to the list? How about complete at least one minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) We might want to go through the current accounts, contact the inactive account owners to see if they still intend to get involved in the group, and if we don't hear back from them in x time or if they indicate they are not interested, remove their accounts from the group. We've been getting a lot of account requests lately and while I do know a few folks who are working on things, there are a lot of names that I don't recognize and I haven't seen active on the list or working on projects that we are aware of at least. Adding someone to the art group is a big deal because it gives them the right to vote in Fedora elections I think among other things. The marketing group had proposed an introduction requirement to add people to the group and I was thinking it might be good for us to have a better policy as well. What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System
Hi folks, Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts to post a self-introduction to the list? How about complete at least one minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) We might want to go through the current accounts, contact the inactive account owners to see if they still intend to get involved in the group, and if we don't hear back from them in x time or if they indicate they are not interested, remove their accounts from the group. We've been getting a lot of account requests lately and while I do know a few folks who are working on things, there are a lot of names that I don't recognize and I haven't seen active on the list or working on projects that we are aware of at least. Adding someone to the art group is a big deal because it gives them the right to vote in Fedora elections I think among other things. The marketing group had proposed an introduction requirement to add people to the group and I was thinking it might be good for us to have a better policy as well. What do you think? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new icons?
Valent Turkovic wrote: http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png Hi, I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Keep doing great work you do! Valent. Hi Valent! In what way do they look out of place? You can file potential bugs against the gnome-icon-theme module in GNOME bugzilla: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/simple-bug-guide.cgi?product=gnome-icon-theme - Andreas ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: new icons?
Valent Turkovic wrote: http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png Hi, I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
new icons?
http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png Hi, I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Keep doing great work you do! Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Waves Grub Artwork
Hey Nicu!
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Máirín Duffy wrote:
I'll take a try at the flame, but it's gonna be tough :)
Ha-ha-ha!
I blogged about those images and got a comment about how the crystals
look like a pile of dog excrements and with flames like a steaming one.
And looking at *my* creations, it is not that far off...
Fortunately your last version preserves the crystal faces and is much
better.
Heheh flaming dog crap. whoopsie :)
I have a couple ideas:
- Let's change up the shape of the sulphur crystals so they are taller
and maybe more in a diamond configuration than the lumpy ("dog crap")
configuration they are in now so hopefully no analogies could be made at
least visually. :) The individual crystal faces could be given more
angular, strong shapes as well such that no dog could crap out such a
shape :)
- Make the overall crystal shape a bit taller, more square at least than
its current short and horizontally wide shape, so when we go from the
standard aspect ratio to widescreen, the stretching is less noticeable.
The screen ratio is definitely a challenge here. In f8 it worked great
because they were just abstract lines so stretching was only noticeable
in the logotype and even then not much.
~m
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Re: Waves Grub Artwork
Máirín Duffy wrote: I'll take a try at the flame, but it's gonna be tough :) Ha-ha-ha! I blogged about those images and got a comment about how the crystals look like a pile of dog excrements and with flames like a steaming one. And looking at *my* creations, it is not that far off... Fortunately your last version preserves the crystal faces and is much better. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
