Re: Echo Icon Theme Status Report
Martin Sourada wrote: PS: me thinks the proper place for this topic would be fedora-legal, but as long as no-one creates them (and the main contributors will not in the near future, because we have icons with much higher priority that need to be fixed/created) it is a non-issue in echo, dunno how on your side... While I expect the flags will not pass legal (and fully understand the reason why), one can think at flag icons as one very easy way to start contributing - at the Open Clip Art Library we have a comprehensive set of flags from all around the world, in SVG format and released as Public Domain, all the work would be only to copy some files. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 03:06 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > Newer is nicer > I think I'll go with this one: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-May/pnguGnExdRnNC.png Are you OK with it (I hope it does not look like camera now =)? More work probably tomorrow :-) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
Newer is nicer On 5/12/08, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 02:48 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > User usually does NOT see hard disk like that =) > > > > WHEN he sees it, it usually looks like this... > http://www.sniper.be/wp-content/uploads/hddimg.jpg > > But most of the time, user does not see it at all... > > > > Btw, canon ixus: > http://imagebank.ipcmedia.com/imageBank/c/canon-ixus850IS.jpg > > > > Hm... I see there enough differences to clearly tell which one is camera > and which on is harddisk (especially because the disk is far more bare > and does not have the objective)... How about some of the newer tries > (especially the ones with screws and without the lens-like thing)? > > > Martin > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 02:48 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > User usually does NOT see hard disk like that =) > WHEN he sees it, it usually looks like this... http://www.sniper.be/wp-content/uploads/hddimg.jpg But most of the time, user does not see it at all... > Btw, canon ixus: http://imagebank.ipcmedia.com/imageBank/c/canon-ixus850IS.jpg > Hm... I see there enough differences to clearly tell which one is camera and which on is harddisk (especially because the disk is far more bare and does not have the objective)... How about some of the newer tries (especially the ones with screws and without the lens-like thing)? Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
User usually does NOT see hard disk like that =) Btw, canon ixus: http://imagebank.ipcmedia.com/imageBank/c/canon-ixus850IS.jpg On 5/12/08, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 01:26 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 02:15 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > > Now i can clearly see lens =) > > > > > I wonder... Where on Earth did you see such a camera? Even the hardest I > > try I fail to see camera there :-/ (even images.google search showed > > nothing like this design...) > > > > > Showing plates and reader head inside is good idea > > > > > Probably not, it's not what user sees when he looks on his real > > harddisk. > > > > Btw. Does adding screws and inverting the central-part gradient help a > > bit? > > > > Martin > > And another two tries, one using Ben's suggestion to remove the > lens-like thing... > > > Martin > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 01:26 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 02:15 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > Now i can clearly see lens =) > > > I wonder... Where on Earth did you see such a camera? Even the hardest I > try I fail to see camera there :-/ (even images.google search showed > nothing like this design...) > > > Showing plates and reader head inside is good idea > > > Probably not, it's not what user sees when he looks on his real > harddisk. > > Btw. Does adding screws and inverting the central-part gradient help a > bit? > > Martin And another two tries, one using Ben's suggestion to remove the lens-like thing... Martin <><><><> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
On 12/05/2008, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 23:37 +0100, Ben Arnold wrote: > > I think if it were inset and had a needle, it wouldn't be camera-like? > Yup, the inset helps (see the attachment). I am not exactly sure what do > you have on mind when speaking about needle... Removing the surface and > showing the inwards, or adding some sort of stand support? I meant the needle that reads from the magnetic disc; just placing it outside of the case really, not showing the insides but just hinting at it. Perhaps only use the outer circle as to not hae the 'lens' thing too? The impression of a disc would still be there is it were only the outline. Sorry to throw all this work at you but my computer is being very tempremental so I don't trust it! ./b -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | |e-mail / msn / icq / web | | http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 02:15 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > Now i can clearly see lens =) > I wonder... Where on Earth did you see such a camera? Even the hardest I try I fail to see camera there :-/ (even images.google search showed nothing like this design...) > Showing plates and reader head inside is good idea > Probably not, it's not what user sees when he looks on his real harddisk. Btw. Does adding screws and inverting the central-part gradient help a bit? Martin <><> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
Now i can clearly see lens =) Showing plates and reader head inside is good idea On 5/12/08, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 23:37 +0100, Ben Arnold wrote: > > I can see where they are coming from - but I think in context and with > > details (i.e. the icon could be with the text "Filesystem", "20GB Hard > > Disk" etc.) then it would be down to common sense. It is worth > > changing though,just to be safe. > > > > I think if it were inset and had a needle, it wouldn't be camera-like? > > > > ./b > > > > > Yup, the inset helps (see the attachment). I am not exactly sure what do > you have on mind when speaking about needle... Removing the surface and > showing the inwards, or adding some sort of stand support? > > Thanks, > > Martin > > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 23:37 +0100, Ben Arnold wrote: > I can see where they are coming from - but I think in context and with > details (i.e. the icon could be with the text "Filesystem", "20GB Hard > Disk" etc.) then it would be down to common sense. It is worth > changing though,just to be safe. > > I think if it were inset and had a needle, it wouldn't be camera-like? > > ./b > Yup, the inset helps (see the attachment). I am not exactly sure what do you have on mind when speaking about needle... Removing the surface and showing the inwards, or adding some sort of stand support? Thanks, Martin <><> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
On 11/05/2008, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, any idea what to do about that? > It's totally different from echo camera-photo [1] icon, but looking at > your comment, it's probably not enough? I can see where they are coming from - but I think in context and with details (i.e. the icon could be with the text "Filesystem", "20GB Hard Disk" etc.) then it would be down to common sense. It is worth changing though,just to be safe. I think if it were inset and had a needle, it wouldn't be camera-like? ./b -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | |e-mail / msn / icq / web | | http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
It may be different from camera icon, but hard drive icon looks exactly like by canon =) On 5/12/08, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 00:16 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > harddisk looks like camera, optical and removable are nice > > > > Crap, I totally forgot there are such flat cameras out there... And I > liked it most of the three :*( Anyway, any idea what to do about that? > It's totally different from echo camera-photo [1] icon, but looking at > your comment, it's probably not enough? > > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] > > http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=echo-icon-theme;a=blob_plain;f=base/48x48/devices/camera-photo.png;hb=HEAD > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 00:16 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > harddisk looks like camera, optical and removable are nice > Crap, I totally forgot there are such flat cameras out there... And I liked it most of the three :*( Anyway, any idea what to do about that? It's totally different from echo camera-photo [1] icon, but looking at your comment, it's probably not enough? Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=echo-icon-theme;a=blob_plain;f=base/48x48/devices/camera-photo.png;hb=HEAD signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] drive-* icons DRAFT
harddisk looks like camera, optical and removable are nice On 5/12/08, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I've made first try of the drive-* icons, so far only 48x48 to get the > basic idea. I attach them. I decided to remade them completely to better > present the metaphors and to be easier to differentiate among them. > > Comments welcome, > > Martin > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme Status Report
On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 18:58 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Sourada gmail.com> writes: > > Because it's icon theme? Really, it's listed in the icon naming > > specification [1], it's possible low-barrier entry for new contributors > > and I can imagine also other uses apart from desktop. What is the reason > > behind removing them from kdebase? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#head-2ae52dbef2515e18d66fba220112c712c9d2eb14 > > In particular, the flag used by a certain Asian island with Taipei as their > capital was found to be a problem. > > Now I'm all for lifting the ban on flags, I think Fedora can't drop > everything > which is banned in some country or we won't have anything left to ship at > all, > however I want it lifted for everyone! It doesn't make sense that kdebase > can't > ship flags and echo-icon-theme will ship the exact same flags! That said, I > suspect this list isn't the right place to get it seen by the right people. > > Kevin Kofler > Aah, I see the issue now. That's just annoying, I understand very well, that using flags for languages is a bad idea, but being unable to use them for countries themselves is really annoying (I can see it might be useful especially for local fedora websites) :-/ But yeah, makes sense to ban for all or allow for all... Martin PS: me thinks the proper place for this topic would be fedora-legal, but as long as no-one creates them (and the main contributors will not in the near future, because we have icons with much higher priority that need to be fixed/created) it is a non-issue in echo, dunno how on your side... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme Status Report
Remove flag of problematic countries (or islands, whatever), leave others On 5/11/08, Kevin Kofler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Sourada gmail.com> writes: > > > Because it's icon theme? Really, it's listed in the icon naming > > specification [1], it's possible low-barrier entry for new contributors > > and I can imagine also other uses apart from desktop. What is the reason > > behind removing them from kdebase? > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#head-2ae52dbef2515e18d66fba220112c712c9d2eb14 > > In particular, the flag used by a certain Asian island with Taipei as their > capital was found to be a problem. > > Now I'm all for lifting the ban on flags, I think Fedora can't drop > everything > which is banned in some country or we won't have anything left to ship at > all, > however I want it lifted for everyone! It doesn't make sense that kdebase > can't > ship flags and echo-icon-theme will ship the exact same flags! That said, I > suspect this list isn't the right place to get it seen by the right people. > > > Kevin Kofler > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme Status Report
Martin Sourada gmail.com> writes: > Because it's icon theme? Really, it's listed in the icon naming > specification [1], it's possible low-barrier entry for new contributors > and I can imagine also other uses apart from desktop. What is the reason > behind removing them from kdebase? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#head-2ae52dbef2515e18d66fba220112c712c9d2eb14 In particular, the flag used by a certain Asian island with Taipei as their capital was found to be a problem. Now I'm all for lifting the ban on flags, I think Fedora can't drop everything which is banned in some country or we won't have anything left to ship at all, however I want it lifted for everyone! It doesn't make sense that kdebase can't ship flags and echo-icon-theme will ship the exact same flags! That said, I suspect this list isn't the right place to get it seen by the right people. Kevin Kofler ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme Status Report
On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 04:46 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Sourada gmail.com> writes: > > [2] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/IconThemeStatus > > Why is Echo allowed to carry these: > https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/IconThemeStatus/International > and yet we get told to remove country flags from kdebase? > > Kevin Kofler > Because it's icon theme? Really, it's listed in the icon naming specification [1], it's possible low-barrier entry for new contributors and I can imagine also other uses apart from desktop. What is the reason behind removing them from kdebase? References: [1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
