Re: to Fedora 9 Wallpaper

2008-05-14 Thread Nicu Buculei

Klaatu and Gort wrote:
slap a 10 on that background and propose it for f10 background.  it's 
pretty cool looking.


Yes for proposal but No for slapping a 10 on it. Background images 
are supposed to not contain release numbers nor the word fedora.



On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Stojan Dimitrovski wrote:

Hello,

I just finished this. It's meant to be a thanks for everyone on the
community for working hard to bring Fedora 9 to life.

I know that this email may sound very, extremely weird and useless, but
I really had to do this. I just felt like I had to.

http://act1v8.deviantart.com/art/to-Fedora-9-85585606

Thanks.

P.S. Don't flame me, just tell me not to do this anymore and if you wish
delete the message from the list. (Just in case)



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general purpose fedora slide template

2008-05-14 Thread Luca Foppiano
Hi all, 
I'm looking for a general fedora slides template. Right now I found
only:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=showredirect=Marketing%2FSlides#head-b406b553b6493a2ec75085856639b4cecc479d11

but are too many customized to old fedora releases.

IMHO a generic template may be useful and it should be something similar 
to fedoraproject wiki style.

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Re: general purpose fedora slide template

2008-05-14 Thread Pavel Shevchuk
I'm also interested in branded presentation template

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Luca Foppiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 I'm looking for a general fedora slides template. Right now I found
  only:
  
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=showredirect=Marketing%2FSlides#head-b406b553b6493a2ec75085856639b4cecc479d11

  but are too many customized to old fedora releases.

  IMHO a generic template may be useful and it should be something similar
  to fedoraproject wiki style.

  bye
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Confusing CD sleeves...

2008-05-14 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi,
I'm preparing to manually print CD labels on CD's of Fedora 9 and I
would also like to make them look more professional so I'll also print
CD sleeves.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9

There are a few things that aren't aren't clear to me.

1. This CD Cover -
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=cdlabel_sulf_thumb.png
It has a bigger center hole than others and printers that I print on
can print there. Other CD Covers have blue with just the small hole
and that would be better if all CD Covers would be like that with same
smaller center white circle.

2. 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=F9_CDSleeve_thumb.png
CD and DVD sleeves have text saying x86_64 Live CD People ask me a
lot What does that mean, and is this 64bit only ... etc... etc...
Could you please consider making this text something like (runs on 32
and 64 bit architectures of processors or something like that that is
more human friendly and not confusing?

Thank you for making all these great graphics they are great and make
Fedora look as great as it runs! ;)

Cheers,
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Re: Confusing CD sleeves...

2008-05-14 Thread Pavel Shevchuk
Archtag explanation is needed. Ubuntu covers have something like runs
on Intel and AMD PCs and runs on 64bit PCs only in corner

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Valent Turkovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
  I'm preparing to manually print CD labels on CD's of Fedora 9 and I
  would also like to make them look more professional so I'll also print
  CD sleeves.
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9

  There are a few things that aren't aren't clear to me.

  1. This CD Cover -
  
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=cdlabel_sulf_thumb.png
  It has a bigger center hole than others and printers that I print on
  can print there. Other CD Covers have blue with just the small hole
  and that would be better if all CD Covers would be like that with same
  smaller center white circle.

  2. 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=F9_CDSleeve_thumb.png
  CD and DVD sleeves have text saying x86_64 Live CD People ask me a
  lot What does that mean, and is this 64bit only ... etc... etc...
  Could you please consider making this text something like (runs on 32
  and 64 bit architectures of processors or something like that that is
  more human friendly and not confusing?

  Thank you for making all these great graphics they are great and make
  Fedora look as great as it runs! ;)

  Cheers,
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Mist and gnome-icon-theme plans for GNOME 2.24/Fedora 10

2008-05-14 Thread Andreas Nilsson

Hi all!
I thought I should share some of the plans for Mist and gnome-icon-theme 
(witch makes up for a big porportion of the icons used on Fedora).


• King Size - Even though 48x48 px canvas currently works well on the 
desktop for most people, there is a tendency to move towards higher 
resolution screens. There are also emerging projects such as GnomeDO and 
Elisa that require larger sized icons. Therefore we recently started 
experimenting with Large sized (256x256) icons for the most common 
icons. Lapo Calamandrei and Jakub Steiner will be taking care of the 
bits in gnome-icon-theme and I'll be fixing the ones in Mist. Help is 
greatly needed in this area.
• Dropping icon-naming-utils - We're looking into dropping the 
dependency on icon-naming-utils sometime in the foreseeable future. This 
requires changes to the applications to use icon-naming-spec names, 
therefore icon-naming-utils is disabled during the unstable release 
(2.23) of GNOME so we can hunt those issues down.
• Moving to one canvas per icon - We want to move all the sizes of a 
icon into one canvas and have a script split them up during installation 
of the theme to their respective folders. This will hopefully make the 
icons easier to maintain.
• Emblems - A lot of the emblems are still using the old GNOME style and 
only comes in one size. Kalle Persson is working on updated emblems.
• As usual we will also fix icon bugs in individual applications. Last 
cycle we did a lot of work on Firefox3, Evolution and Banshee as well as 
a lot of other applications. We're currently looking into Seahorse, 
Hugin, Abiword and whatever pops up along the road.


Help is always needed and highly appreciated ,especially with tracking 
down and fixing ugly application in the menus. You can catch me in 
#fedora-art most of the time if you have any questions.

- Andreas

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Re: Confusing CD sleeves...

2008-05-14 Thread Nicu Buculei

Valent Turkovic wrote:

I'm preparing to manually print CD labels on CD's of Fedora 9 and I
would also like to make them look more professional so I'll also print
CD sleeves.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9

There are a few things that aren't aren't clear to me.

[...]


2. 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=F9_CDSleeve_thumb.png
CD and DVD sleeves have text saying x86_64 Live CD People ask me a
lot What does that mean, and is this 64bit only ... etc... etc...
Could you please consider making this text something like (runs on 32
and 64 bit architectures of processors or something like that that is
more human friendly and not confusing?


Could you consider opening the SVG with Inkscape and using whatever text 
you want? The intention for those labels is to be used as templates, so 
you can put live CD, live DVD, install DVD, install CD #n, i686, x86_64, 
ppc, whatever spin and so on.
Otherwise we would have to put on the wiki CD labels for *every* 
possible combination.


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Re: Mist and gnome-icon-theme plans for GNOME 2.24/Fedora 10

2008-05-14 Thread Nicu Buculei

Andreas Nilsson wrote:


• King Size - Even though 48x48 px canvas currently works well on the 
desktop for most people, there is a tendency to move towards higher 
resolution screens. There are also emerging projects such as GnomeDO and 
Elisa that require larger sized icons. Therefore we recently started 
experimenting with Large sized (256x256) icons for the most common 
icons. Lapo Calamandrei and Jakub Steiner will be taking care of the 
bits in gnome-icon-theme and I'll be fixing the ones in Mist. Help is 
greatly needed in this area.


This raises an interesting question about the default icon set in Fedora 10.

Lately Echo development gained some momentum, so maybe we should put our 
collective asses at work and come with a plan: try to get Echo as 
default in F10, so focus on it or we will rely again on Mist and help 
with those large sized icons (certainly, people can work on both, all is 
about the focus).


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Re: Confusing CD sleeves...

2008-05-14 Thread Valent Turkovic
  2.
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=F9_CDSleeve_thumb.png
  CD and DVD sleeves have text saying x86_64 Live CD People ask me a
  lot What does that mean, and is this 64bit only ... etc... etc...
  Could you please consider making this text something like (runs on 32
  and 64 bit architectures of processors or something like that that is
  more human friendly and not confusing?
 

  Could you consider opening the SVG with Inkscape and using whatever text
 you want? The intention for those labels is to be used as templates, so you
 can put live CD, live DVD, install DVD, install CD #n, i686, x86_64, ppc,
 whatever spin and so on.
  Otherwise we would have to put on the wiki CD labels for *every* possible
 combination.

I did that already but still I consider the current text to be a bad
default text.

Cheers,
Valent.

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Re: Mist and gnome-icon-theme plans for GNOME 2.24/Fedora 10

2008-05-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:23 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Andreas Nilsson wrote:
  
  • King Size - Even though 48x48 px canvas currently works well on the 
  desktop for most people, there is a tendency to move towards higher 
  resolution screens. There are also emerging projects such as GnomeDO and 
  Elisa that require larger sized icons. Therefore we recently started 
  experimenting with Large sized (256x256) icons for the most common 
  icons. Lapo Calamandrei and Jakub Steiner will be taking care of the 
  bits in gnome-icon-theme and I'll be fixing the ones in Mist. Help is 
  greatly needed in this area.
 
 This raises an interesting question about the default icon set in Fedora 10.
 
 Lately Echo development gained some momentum, so maybe we should put our 
 collective asses at work and come with a plan: try to get Echo as 
 default in F10, so focus on it or we will rely again on Mist and help 
 with those large sized icons (certainly, people can work on both, all is 
 about the focus).
 

Well, some of the issues Andreas mentioned are same for Echo as for
gnome-icon-theme, so the Echo devs can help with it as well. What I have
on mind is especially correct usage of icons as per icon naming specs. 

Also would be nice if we could fix applications to use generic icons
instead of their own more, so that choosing different than
gnome-icon-theme will not result in inconsistent looking desktop, e.g.
pidgin, gajim, empathy could use emotes from the icon themes instead of
their own, etc. I noticed many of the app specific icons are handled by
the gnome-icon-theme people as well, so if we could move as much icons
as possible from app specific places to /usr/share/icons/hicolor and fix
apps to look up for them in the traditional icon theme places it would
greatly help other icon theme developers.

As for me, I hope we can get Echo in for Fedora 10.

Martin


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Re: to Fedora 9 Wallpaper

2008-05-14 Thread Stojan Dimitrovski
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 12:41 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote:
 Branding, including release number and codename, is applied only to
 promotional material and bootup graphics. Wallpapers are often reused
 after (or before) upgrades

Yes, I know.

I will remove the text. I also don't think it looks good, I just put it
up so it would reflect the Fedora 9 way.

I might propose for F10. :)

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Fedora Store mockup

2008-05-14 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hi,

I took a stab at a front page mockup for the Fedora store. I have some 
ideas for the subpages too. I'm thinking basically the subpages will 
show all the possible products and maybe list which external sites you 
can get each in (for individual purchasing), and for bulk orders maybe 
it would have downloadable printer-ready artwork with recommendations by 
region of where to go with price estimates?


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store/Mockup#preview

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Re: Confusing CD sleeves...

2008-05-14 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Valent Turkovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
  I'm preparing to manually print CD labels on CD's of Fedora 9 and I
  would also like to make them look more professional so I'll also print
  CD sleeves.
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9

  There are a few things that aren't aren't clear to me.

  1. This CD Cover -
  
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=cdlabel_sulf_thumb.png
  It has a bigger center hole than others and printers that I print on
  can print there. Other CD Covers have blue with just the small hole
  and that would be better if all CD Covers would be like that with same
  smaller center white circle.


This CD Labels look best of all I saw - regarding printing on CDs. If
you want you can remove the inner circle but if you need it is there:
http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc7graphics/thumbnails/11cdDVDLabelSM.png

Can you please consider making Fedora 9 also with this in mind?

Thank you,
Valent.


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Re: Fedora Store mockup

2008-05-14 Thread Mike Langlie
Interesting use of the logo + section name, but I like how Márín's 
de-emphasizes Fedora (a user knows what site they're at already) and 
brings strong attention to where you are and your purpose. It's large 
enough to glance from almost anywhere on the page but not overbearing.


Mike

Pavel Shevchuk wrote:

I want mug and T-Shirt =)

Mockup is cool except i don't like header. Quickdirty mockup of my
idea how it would look cool:
http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/tmp/storeheader.png

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi,

I took a stab at a front page mockup for the Fedora store. I have some ideas
for the subpages too. I'm thinking basically the subpages will show all the
possible products and maybe list which external sites you can get each in
(for individual purchasing), and for bulk orders maybe it would have
downloadable printer-ready artwork with recommendations by region of where
to go with price estimates?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store/Mockup#preview

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Re: Fedora sign

2008-05-14 Thread Máirín Duffy

Paul W. Frields wrote:

The Red Hat Summit planning group is going to have an extra sign made up
for Fedora featuring some quotations from the excellent press coverage
we've been getting.  Kara is working on pulling some quotes for this
purpose.

I think mizmo reads this list, but if not I've cc'd the Artwork list.
Mo, would the Artwork project be able to help us with a simple design
for a sign?

I've already alerted the Summit folks that we need to know:

1. file format required
2. size target for the sign
3. any other requirements from the signage producers

I hope to have the quotes ready on Thursday morning.  Would you guys be
able to produce something by, say, Friday morning?  


Sure :)

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Re: Confusing CD sleeves...

2008-05-14 Thread ryan lerch


 I did that already but still I consider the current text to be a bad
 default text.


FWIW, i chose that particular string because it was the longest of all the
variations i was given when i was designing the CD / DVD, and did not was
the text to go off the edge of the design.

cheers,
ryanlerch
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Re: Confusing CD sleeves...

2008-05-14 Thread ryan lerch
This thread (
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-April/msg00455.html )
also has some links to the more print ready designs that i believe were
used for the cd / dvd pressings...

cheers,
ryanlerch

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Valent Turkovic
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
   I'm preparing to manually print CD labels on CD's of Fedora 9 and I
   would also like to make them look more professional so I'll also print
   CD sleeves.
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9
 
   There are a few things that aren't aren't clear to me.
 
   1. This CD Cover -
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=cdlabel_sulf_thumb.png
   It has a bigger center hole than others and printers that I print on
   can print there. Other CD Covers have blue with just the small hole
   and that would be better if all CD Covers would be like that with same
   smaller center white circle.


 This CD Labels look best of all I saw - regarding printing on CDs. If
 you want you can remove the inner circle but if you need it is there:
 http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc7graphics/thumbnails/11cdDVDLabelSM.png

 Can you please consider making Fedora 9 also with this in mind?

 Thank you,
 Valent.


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F10 Theme Proposal

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Beckwith

Here we go, explanation of inspiration on the wiki page
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Neon

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