Re: Quicklaunch mockuo
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 00:40 +0200, Mark wrote: > Your version looks good as well.. in the end this is all just a mather > of taste.. > Also my purpose with this idea is to get rid of those icons that you > don't use often anyway. > The advantage (for me) is that the space used up by the current > quicklaunch can than be used by other things more important. In your > case you make it worse.. you dedicate a full panel to quicklaunch > stuff and have it in your screen al the time. i want the opposite of > that (which you can achieve by just auto hiding the panel).. Also > making it look fancy suits me better :) just a ordinary plain panel > isn't my style ^_^ > Well, I like having two panels and I hate to wait until they appear. That's why I don't autohide them. I also like to have applications I use regularly easily accessible - and it's that lot of icons you see in the screen-shot. Also I don't like nearly empty panel - it's boring. And of course I like some of the panel applets. And last, but not least, I find 6 virtual desktops to be just the right number for me. And after many iterations I ended up with a layout like you saw. I have nice big icons, bottom panel with sort of macy style (semi-transparent background). It looks even more awesome with compositing enabled (but I don't use compositing for various purposes). And fast access to everything I use from notify, through trash, quick launch and virtual desktop switcher, through network monitor and window list to gnome menu :-D And it occupies as much space as I find nice... Also, which is not seen on the screen shot, in the bottom right corner when I attach an usb drive, or put an optical media in, disk mounter applet with fast access to basic actions like open/eject/unmount appears. Only one thing that my current layout lacks is a fancy top panel, but I don't mind the plain colour one much and I am too lazy to make it look otherwise :-D But as you said, it's a matter of taste. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Quicklaunch mockuo
2008/6/3 Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 23:14 +0200, Mark wrote: >> Hey, >> >> Hosted it here: >> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=82467 >> >> This mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With today\\\'s >> quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while you >> probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being gone >> when you don't usThis mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With >> today's quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while >> you probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being >> gone when you don't use it. >> >> What you see. >> My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner >> of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you >> the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move >> your mouse out of the popup area. >> >> Is this possible to make? >> Deffinately yes! >> In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner >> that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used >> for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in >> pure GTK+ only but then won\\\'t have the black drop down shadow >> (obviously). >> >> Why in the lower left corner? >> Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the >> quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever >> reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the >> lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. >> >> So what do you think of this mockup?e it. >> >> What you see. >> My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner >> of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you >> the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move >> your mouse out of the popup area. >> >> Is this possible to make? >> Definitely yes! >> In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner >> that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used >> for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in >> pure GTK+ only but then won't have the black drop down shadow >> (obviously). >> >> Why in the lower left corner? >> Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the >> quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever >> reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the >> lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. >> >> So what do you think of this mockup? >> > I cannot help but to ask, was there some fishy (unintentional) > copy&paste done here? There is a lot of text written twice and I find it > rather hard to follow, though with some effort I can get what you are > trying to say ;-) > > Martin yea some copy&paste indeed.. strange.. this is how it's supposed to be: === This mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With today's quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while you probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being gone when you don't use it. What you see. My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move your mouse out of the popup area. Is this possible to make? This mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With today's quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while you probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being gone when you don't use it. What you see. My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move your mouse out of the popup area. Is this possible to make? Deffinately yes! In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in pure GTK+ only but then won't have the black drop down shadow (obviously). Why in the lower left corner? Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. So what do you think of this mockup? === Your version looks good as well.. in the end this is all just a mather of taste.. Also my purpose with this idea is to get rid of those icons that you don't use often anyway. The advantage (for me) is that the space used up by the current quicklaunch can than be used by other things more important. In your case you
Re: Quicklaunch mockuo
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 23:14 +0200, Mark wrote: > Hey, > > Hosted it here: > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=82467 > > This mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With today\\\'s > quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while you > probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being gone > when you don't usThis mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With > today's quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while > you probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being > gone when you don't use it. > > What you see. > My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner > of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you > the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move > your mouse out of the popup area. > > Is this possible to make? > Deffinately yes! > In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner > that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used > for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in > pure GTK+ only but then won\\\'t have the black drop down shadow > (obviously). > > Why in the lower left corner? > Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the > quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever > reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the > lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. > > So what do you think of this mockup?e it. > > What you see. > My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner > of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you > the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move > your mouse out of the popup area. > > Is this possible to make? > Definitely yes! > In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner > that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used > for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in > pure GTK+ only but then won't have the black drop down shadow > (obviously). > > Why in the lower left corner? > Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the > quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever > reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the > lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. > > So what do you think of this mockup? > I cannot help but to ask, was there some fishy (unintentional) copy&paste done here? There is a lot of text written twice and I find it rather hard to follow, though with some effort I can get what you are trying to say ;-) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Quicklaunch mockuo
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 01:03 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > I use this most of the time. Create spare panel, put shortcuts on it, > set icon size to huge and make panel autohide. I use semi-transparent panel 32 px height for that purpose without auto-hide. It actually looks quite good and serves right for the quick-launch purpose. I don't need to wait until it appears, just click one the icon and it's lunched... For my current setting (I only slightly alter the applications in quick-launch over time) take a look e.g. at my fedorapeople page [1]. I find the layout I've chosen quite effective and nice, after all it's became like that after many iterations made with the sole purpose to improve my experience with gnome ;-) So as you (Mark) suggest the idea of new quick launch a don't find any advantages over my current set-up and I think it sort of beats the purpose of quick launch... I could as well add a drawer to panel and have all the quick launch icons hidden there and it would serve the purpose just as well and would be even quicker (even though it would require one mouse click more) to use... But that's just mine personal opinion, don't heed it if you don't like it ;-) Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/Screenshot.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Quicklaunch mockuo
I use this most of the time. Create spare panel, put shortcuts on it, set icon size to huge and make panel autohide. On 6/3/08, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > Hosted it here: > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=82467 > > This mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With today\\\'s > quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while you > probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being gone > when you don't usThis mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With > today's quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while > you probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being > gone when you don't use it. > > What you see. > My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner > of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you > the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move > your mouse out of the popup area. > > Is this possible to make? > Deffinately yes! > In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner > that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used > for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in > pure GTK+ only but then won\\\'t have the black drop down shadow > (obviously). > > Why in the lower left corner? > Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the > quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever > reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the > lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. > > So what do you think of this mockup?e it. > > What you see. > My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner > of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you > the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move > your mouse out of the popup area. > > Is this possible to make? > Definitely yes! > In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner > that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used > for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in > pure GTK+ only but then won't have the black drop down shadow > (obviously). > > Why in the lower left corner? > Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the > quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever > reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the > lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. > > So what do you think of this mockup? > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Revamped system-search icons set
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 13:57 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Feel free to do so. > > Luya > Ok, finished [1]. Check it out. Comments welcome :) Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/CommonMistakes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Quicklaunch mockuo
Hey, Hosted it here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=82467 This mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With today\\\'s quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while you probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being gone when you don't usThis mockup shows my idea of a quicklaunch. With today's quicklaunch you have several icons always in your screen while you probably just use a few of them and and wouldn't mind them being gone when you don't use it. What you see. My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move your mouse out of the popup area. Is this possible to make? Deffinately yes! In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in pure GTK+ only but then won\\\'t have the black drop down shadow (obviously). Why in the lower left corner? Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. So what do you think of this mockup?e it. What you see. My idea here is that when you move your mouse to the lower left corner of your screen that you will get this popup cloud which will show you the available quicklaunch applications and will vanish once you move your mouse out of the popup area. Is this possible to make? Definitely yes! In compiz fusion you can push your mouse to the upper right corner that will give you a alternative ALT + TAB so that idea can be used for the lower left as well. This popup dialog can probably be made in pure GTK+ only but then won't have the black drop down shadow (obviously). Why in the lower left corner? Well, somehow whenever i want to start a application from the quicklaunch applet i tend to go to the lower left corner for whatever reason.. so it's probably intuitive (atleast for me) to go to the lowerleft corner if you want to start an application quickly. So what do you think of this mockup? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Revamped system-search icons set
Feel free to do so. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Revamped system-search icons set
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 13:25 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Martin Sourada a écrit : > > > > Yeah, that indeed is strange, I noticed it on first look. And yes, I > > know there exist such models of binoculars, only I thought the ones with > > bigger objective part *might* be better ;-) > > > I will do them later. > > As for the properly aligned icons, where can I find them? Those on your > > fedorapeople still suffer from the issue (as can be seen in the image > > [1] you referenced). Also I noticed, you might use more subtle shadow, > > perhaps add some more blur to it and it will be OK. > > > > > They are the same file if you notice the date of modification. > Yeah, I noticed that (I actually examined the date a lot, because of my doubts) but the blurriness is still there, though perhaps to a smaller extent than the originals (I didn't downloaded them so I cannot compare). Try to directly compare the SVG I attached in my first reply to that created by you. You should see the difference, if not, then export both to PNG and zoom the PNG in gimp, it should reveal the difference. In short, if you display the pixel grid in inkscape (i.e. let it show default rectangular grid), all lines of the icon should be *between* the grid lines and they *should not* cross them. If they cross them, then they are rendered on two pixels instead of one, which creates the blurry effect. I actually tend to make the lines in icon even thinner (0.75 px) which a) makes it easier to fit in between the grid lines and b) makes the final icon look a little more subtle, while keeping the crispness. Inkscape is actually going in way here a bit, since when you display grid, it automatically attaches everything to grid lines (unless you turn that off), which works great for objects with fills only, but bad for lines with odd (number) thickness... Sorry about being so persistent, but I feel obliged to point the problem I see out... I'll maybe add "common mistakes" page to our wiki which will cover this issue tomorrow (only this issue for now, because I don't have much spare time recently), or maybe even today if time permits... If you don't mind, I'll use this binocular icon as an example. > > Luya > Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Revamped system-search icons set
Martin Sourada a écrit : > > Yeah, that indeed is strange, I noticed it on first look. And yes, I > know there exist such models of binoculars, only I thought the ones with > bigger objective part *might* be better ;-) > I will do them later. > As for the properly aligned icons, where can I find them? Those on your > fedorapeople still suffer from the issue (as can be seen in the image > [1] you referenced). Also I noticed, you might use more subtle shadow, > perhaps add some more blur to it and it will be OK. > > They are the same file if you notice the date of modification. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Revamped system-search icons set
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 11:35 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > That's odd. On my screen, I failed to see the blurriness other than a > thumbnail from nautilus [1]. As for the binoculars, there are > models[2] [3] [4] [5] similar to these icons now properly aligned. =) > Yeah, that indeed is strange, I noticed it on first look. And yes, I know there exist such models of binoculars, only I thought the ones with bigger objective part *might* be better ;-) As for the properly aligned icons, where can I find them? Those on your fedorapeople still suffer from the issue (as can be seen in the image [1] you referenced). Also I noticed, you might use more subtle shadow, perhaps add some more blur to it and it will be OK. > > > Luya > > > [1] > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/actions/Capture--home-luya-Mod%C3%A8les-echo-icon-devel-system-search48.svg%20-%20Inkscape.png > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Revamped system-search icons set
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Sourada a écrit : > > The metaphor is IMHO good, although a little simple (you could perhaps > try binoculars with bigger lenses on the object side - something like > this [1]). As for the design itself, all the icons save 256x256 are > blurry. Please align the icons to grid. I attach a quick fix for 16x16 > for comparison/example. > > Martin > > [1] https://www.highlandgear.com/catalog/images/LEUPOLD%208X42%20MESA% > 20BINOCULARS.jpg That's odd. On my screen, I failed to see the blurriness other than a thumbnail from nautilus [1]. As for the binoculars, there are models[2] [3] [4] [5] similar to these icons now properly aligned. =) Luya [1] http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/actions/Capture--home-luya-Mod%C3%A8les-echo-icon-devel-system-search48.svg%20-%20Inkscape.png [2] http://www.birddigiscoping.com/blogviper1.jpg [3] http://www.eagleoptics.com/images/Binoculars/px_dcfsp_43mm_200.jpg [4] http://www.eagleoptics.com/images/Binoculars/nk_monarch_8x42_7430_200.jpg [5] http://www.eagleoptics.com/images/Binoculars/bin_mx_bl842br_62147_200.jpg Reference: http://www.birddigiscoping.com/2006_11_01_archive.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhEPTsACgkQa10Jb0NOz+H5lACfSFOIjqKb8MsAfVwDVyxCDmSc vd4An3WbeFiarVpd65oVJIiEd1MZCLTq =eV2N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Neon mockup
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: However, weren't we supposed to *not* use the logo in the default desktop wallpaper? It's not for a wallpaper; it's just concept art. :) Ha, ha, ha! This sounds so familiar... it came to me full circle :D Uh oh, what do you mean? The first graphics I made for "Gears" also had the logo and I also called them concepts, not wallpapers. Zing! (slang for ironic moments and whatnot, for those not from the US) -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Neon mockup
Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: However, weren't we supposed to *not* use the logo in the default desktop wallpaper? It's not for a wallpaper; it's just concept art. :) Ha, ha, ha! This sounds so familiar... it came to me full circle :D Uh oh, what do you mean? The first graphics I made for "Gears" also had the logo and I also called them concepts, not wallpapers. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Neon mockup
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: What do you think about this look/feel? It looks quite depressing, which works well for me. However, weren't we supposed to *not* use the logo in the default desktop wallpaper? It's not for a wallpaper; it's just concept art. :) Ha, ha, ha! This sounds so familiar... it came to me full circle :D Uh oh, what do you mean? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Neon mockup
Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: What do you think about this look/feel? It looks quite depressing, which works well for me. However, weren't we supposed to *not* use the logo in the default desktop wallpaper? It's not for a wallpaper; it's just concept art. :) Ha, ha, ha! This sounds so familiar... it came to me full circle :D -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Neon mockup
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F10Themes_Neon_city-scene-photo-manip-1.png What do you think about this look/feel? It looks quite depressing, which works well for me. However, weren't we supposed to *not* use the logo in the default desktop wallpaper? It's not for a wallpaper; it's just concept art. :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Revamped system-search icons set
On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 16:48 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sorry for the long delay as this class session is very intensive than > expected. > Promptly I took the time to redesign the whole set of system-search > icons (including 256x256) following echo guidelines[1] and using > binoculars[2] instead. Comments and suggestion are always welcome. > > > Luya > > References: > - > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines > [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-May/msg00011.html The metaphor is IMHO good, although a little simple (you could perhaps try binoculars with bigger lenses on the object side - something like this [1]). As for the design itself, all the icons save 256x256 are blurry. Please align the icons to grid. I attach a quick fix for 16x16 for comparison/example. Martin [1] https://www.highlandgear.com/catalog/images/LEUPOLD%208X42%20MESA% 20BINOCULARS.jpg <> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
