Re: Choosing the 'right' icon for an application

2008-07-15 Thread Nicu Buculei

Robin Norwood wrote:

So I've been looking at importing the icons for applications for the
Fedora Applications web site [1].  We'd like to show an icon next to a
given application, preferably the one the user would see in the menus
after installing said app.  This is, of course, complicated.  I can
currently look for icons inside each rpm in Fedora, specifically the
rpm providing the application we're interested in, and the various
*-icon-theme rpms.  My current thinking is, for each application:

o Get the icon name from the application's .desktop file.


This seems sane


o Look in /usr/share/icons for icons matching that name from the
various default Fedora themes.

o Pick an appropriately-sized icon png (probably 48x48).
  - We could also store svg instead of png.


I don't think there is a need to store the SVG, there is no 
straightforward way to embed in in a web page (and have it rendered 
correctly by all browsers).



o Create a map that looks something like this:
  OS - Application - Theme - icon

  With a 'generic' theme for icons provided by the application.

o Save the above map and icon data in the web application's database.

o When picking an icon to show the user, pick the one from their
currently-selected theme and OS (if we know it), falling back to an icon
from the Fedora or 'generic' theme.


I am curious to identify which icon theme is the user using. The browser 
does not know this info, the only way I can imagine it working is to 
have smolt reporting the theme and link data from smolt with amber. I 
don't think you want to go this route (complicated, privacy issues, 
smolt is off by default)



Does this sound sane?  I don't know enough about how icons work to know
if I've missed something.


I want to add that we are not sure at this time which icon set will be 
used in F10 as default, we try to have Echo but we may end staying one 
more cycle with Mist (but this should be easy to solve, both themes are 
using the same naming structure).



[1] https://fedorahosted.org/amber/


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Theme propose reloaded .

2008-07-15 Thread RazGriz
Just the final version of my theme proposal concept. =]

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Simmetricalreloaded.png

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/simmetricalfreedom
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R: Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?

2008-07-15 Thread Samuele Storari
+1
I think it's good go to the next step and turn all the proposal in something 
real.

Samuele

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Oggetto: Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?


+1. 


On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Máirín Duffy  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 



Ian Weller wrote: 


On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: 



We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close 
new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many 
ideas? 

Give everyone another week. Some people may be working on proposals 
right now. 

Good idea! Is everyone okay with closing it on July 21st? 






Also, we should probably go through the proposals missing the 
requirements and remind the proposers to fully fill them out or pull them. 

A matrix on the wiki page might help. It also might help to have a wiki 
page with the requirements for each stage, with examples from previous 
releases' successful themes. Maybe I can talk with you tomorrow about 
what exactly the requirements are and I can compile the pages... 

We do have a page with the requirements; they have been the same since F7: 

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes#How_to_Play 

Basically: 
- have a good *concept* 
- create a wiki page with: 
- a theme name 
- initial sketches (at least one is what we usually say, and they can be 
examples or references to other artwork) 
- an explanation of the concept and how it relates to Fedora 
- the proposer must have a signed CLA 

Having examples of good ones from previous versions of Fedora would be awesome! 
:) 




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Re: Theme propose reloaded .

2008-07-15 Thread Nicu Buculei

RazGriz wrote:


Just the final version of my theme proposal concept. =]

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Simmetricalreloaded.png


While I am impressed by the technical al achievement, this may be a bit 
to much symmetry for an effective wallpaper. Looking at it for more than 
a few seconds I start to feel a bit dizzy (but it may also be because it 
is morning here, I am partly asleep, do not use to drink coffee and 
worked myself with some photo effects)


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Re: Theme propose reloaded .

2008-07-15 Thread RazGriz
Hehe, the sun just woke up here too, it is just the concept , lets wait th
dead line first round , and if my theme get a chance to proceed to the
second round i'll see a wallpaper of it =].

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 RazGriz wrote:


 Just the final version of my theme proposal concept. =]

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Simmetricalreloaded.png


 While I am impressed by the technical al achievement, this may be a bit to
 much symmetry for an effective wallpaper. Looking at it for more than a few
 seconds I start to feel a bit dizzy (but it may also be because it is
 morning here, I am partly asleep, do not use to drink coffee and worked
 myself with some photo effects)

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Re: F10 theme: Spectrum

2008-07-15 Thread Pavel Shevchuk
In KDE4 it's not hard at all =)

http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/fedorapeople_kde4/1.png
http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/fedorapeople_kde4/2.png
(these two files uploaded using drag'n'drop in dolphin)

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Mike Langlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Martin Sourada wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:49 -0400, Mike Langlie wrote:


 How do I upload something directly to my people account?
 Having a hard time figuring that out.

 Mike



 It's actually pretty easy and you can do it even using nautilus, but I
 find more convenient to use mc. Here are the steps:

  * open terminal
  * open mc in terminal
  * in one panel navigate to the folder you have the file in
  * switch to the other panel (hit tab)
  * hit F9, enter the menu, and select shell link
  * enter the machine name in format:
   your-fas-account-name.fedorapeople.org
   in my case it's mso.fedorapeople.org
  * hit OK. You'll be probably asked for a password to your ssh key -
   watch the command line to see what's happening
  * once you're in, navigate into
   /home/fedora/your-fas-account-name/public_html
   in my case it's /home/fedora/mso/public_html
  * switch back to the first panel
  * select the file you want to upload (either by hitting insert, or
   highlighting it)
  * hit F5 to copy, you can leave the form as is and hit OK
  * watch the progress in the command line
  * after you're done, close mc and the terminal

 Martin
  

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 Thanks Martin. Is there a way to do it without using Terminal?
 (For us lowly Mac users who aren't schooled in such things...)

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Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?

2008-07-15 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:

Ian Weller wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote:

We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close
new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many
ideas?


Give everyone another week. Some people may be working on proposals
right now.


Good idea! Is everyone okay with closing it on July 21st?


Fine by me. I uploaded one more concept (steampunk photography) and do 
not have anything major on the horizon.


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Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?

2008-07-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 22:43 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
 Hey folks,
 
 We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close 
 new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many 
 ideas?
 
 Also, we should probably go through the proposals missing the 
 requirements and remind the proposers to fully fill them out or pull them.
 
 It would be cool if we could form teams around a core set of proposals 
 and kind of battle it out :)

Layer Tennis, anyone?  http://layertennis.com/index.php 

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Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?

2008-07-15 Thread Nicu Buculei

Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 22:43 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:


It would be cool if we could form teams around a core set of proposals 
and kind of battle it out :)


Layer Tennis, anyone?  http://layertennis.com/index.php 


What we could do probably is to get past our egos, find some themes that 
share a number of common point with each other and join them, keeping 
the strong points from each.


Or just having the power to accept our own proposal is not that great 
and start playing with a concept proposed by someone else (maybe 
bringing an idea or two from the abandoned work).


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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-07-15 Thread Michael McCumber
thanks

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On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:40 -0400, Michael McCumber wrote:
 To introduce myself I am a very young programmer but I have had
 experience among designing in Flash Illustrator photoshop ect…   I
 just want to help and contribute toward the Fedora community and 
 designing artwork such as desktops icons images ect would be my 
 strength.
Hi,

welcome to the team. We usually use open tools here - mainly gimp, inkscape and 
blender. Since you mentioned you'd like to help with icons (among other 
things), which is one of my main interests in Fedora, I'd like you to provide 
some useful links that should help you get started with the icon theme we are 
designing especially for Fedora:

https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/
https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines
https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/OnTheTablePerspective
http://mso.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/git%20-%2001%20-%20setting-up%
20the%20repository.mkv
https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/WorkingWithGit
https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/AddingNewIconSet
https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo

You are more than welcome to help either by commenting on these 
pages/screen-casts or creating new icons :-)

Martin


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