Re: Wallpaper
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 07:09:35PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009, Máirín Duffy wrote: > >> This is an extremely open design team. We openly discuss our methods >> and our decisions, and we make our source artwork available in open >> formats using open licenses so anyone who wants to participate, extend, >> or build on our work can easily. If you been participating in the list >> when we received complaints on this particular issue and when we made >> the final call on how to handle it, you could have spoken up just as >> anyone else could have. Even if you were not paying attention to the >> list at the time, it doesn't mean the issue wasn't discussed openly. > > Rodrigo, I recognize your passion, but I must disagree with you. > > Mo has said it correctly. > > The purpose of Fedora is not to vote on all sorts of things. The purpose > of Fedora is to provide a leadership model for individual teams to take > ownership of tasks, and work those tasks to completion in an open, > inclusive way. And I think it's worth pointing out that the whole reason we have a different theme now, as opposed to the landscape originally being worked for F11, is precisely *because* the open process allowed someone to bring in a new idea. Did it occur late in the process? Yes. But people committed to working on many of the design pieces needed, which created a clear consensus. > Discussing which of several options is "most right" is perfectly fine, > but in the end decisions are made by the people in the teams who are > directly doing the work, or those who are active participants. > > To speak directly: I am a lurker on fedora-art-list. Sometimes I say "I > like this one!" but I don't expect that my voice will have any more than > a minor impact, because I'm not the one designing the artwork. > > I think the fact that the lion is being shipped as an alternative and is > default in dual-monitor settings is a good compromise of all the various > ideas. Absolutely. As someone who observed for himself the issues with interaction between desktop icons and the lion design, I think it was the correct decision. I would also like everyone here to remember that the decisions we make always have ramifications. It is impossible to lead, in any pursuit, and expect to make every single person happy all the time, no matter how much we'd like it if that was the case. I try to expect that reaction, listen thoughtfully, and do the best I can to at least achieve understanding. Where that isn't possible, I leave the conversation knowing that I've done the best I can, and accept that I cannot provide perfect happiness to everyone -- it's out of my control. Mo, Nicu, Samuele, Paolo, and many other people (please forgive me if I didn't list all names, it's only because of my imperfect, human, aging brain) continue to do an exceptional job making Fedora look BEAUTIFUL, working as a team. Art never pleases everyone, and we can continue to look for ways to improve while peacefully accepting that. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: MgOpen fonts upstream website / help from a Greek speaker needed
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 11:26:54AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I tried to solve this by myself using online translation tools, but I > wasn't able to get a solution, some help from a Greek speaker would be > useful. > > On the Logo Usage Guideline wiki page we mention MgOpen Modata as teh > "complementary font" and link to the upstream website, to a page which is > not working any more: http://www.ellak.gr/fonts/mgopen/index.en.html > > Unfortunately the website had a major redesign, probably the page was > moved, but the text is Greek and I wasn't able to figure it. > > The content of the page is available elsewhere, but that seems to be a > copy, not a proper upstream: http://www.zvr.gr/typo/mgopen/index > > I think is useful to update our wiki with working links. > This looks like the new upstream page. Links to the font faces are dead though. http://www.ellak.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6493 -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 pgpVyohNNXZJk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 Sleeve design
Hi, > A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html That's true. Unfortunately, I am unable to commit time right now. My sincere appologise for letting this down. :( -- Regards, Susmit. = ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = Sent from Mumbai, Maharashtra, India ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 Sleeve design
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 04/29/2009 10:23 PM, Clint Savage wrote: >> >> I wanted to bring this up since it affects my ability to order and >> deliver F11 media to ambassadors and community members. >> >> According to John Poelstra's task list for the Fedora Art team [1], we >> should be starting the design for the Sleeves and disc labels. Here's >> the information: >> >> Create DVD/CD label and sleeve artwork Start: Tue 2009-04-28 >> Due: >> Tue 2009-05-12 Duration: 14days >> >> So with that, I'd like to get the conversation started and see what we >> want to do for the sleeves, design wise. > > A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > It appears this conversation died, however the deadline is fast approaching. I can create something based upon the lion design, but I think Someone else (Samuele, Mo, Nicu, etc.) is probably more capable than I. Could someone please pick this up and get a draft ready before Monday? If not, I'll see what I can do next week as I am fairly busy these days :/ Cheers, Clint ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora release banners
On 05/08/2009 05:29 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: In this case I think that version "1" is the best until now. But about your proposal for the slogan, I'm in "trouble" because I don't know how make it in the banner without render it too "plenty" of stuff... No worry, it was just a suggestion, we use it only if we can fit it properly in the design. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora release banners
In this case I think that version "1" is the best until now. But about your proposal for the slogan, I'm in "trouble" because I don't know how make it in the banner without render it too "plenty" of stuff... 2009/5/8 Nicu Buculei > On 05/08/2009 03:35 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > >> 2009/5/4 Nicu Buculei >>The basic layout is good (maybe the placement ans size of the logo >>could be better) but I think it would be an interesting idea to >>change the wording somehow so it includes the F11 slogan ("Reign"). >> >> >> I've two new versions, one of these includes the slogan "Reign", but I'm >> not sure that's ok... >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/be/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.png >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/00/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.svg >> > > Without the word "fedora" or the logo, I am afraid this one can work only > for insiders, everybody else will not know what it is about. > > >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/1d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.png >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.svg >> > > This one I think is a bit too plain: wile having a simple default wallpaper > (with no lion) is good for usability, is not the same for a banner, which > should grab the eye. So the lion here is a good thing. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
MgOpen fonts upstream website / help from a Greek speaker needed
I tried to solve this by myself using online translation tools, but I wasn't able to get a solution, some help from a Greek speaker would be useful. On the Logo Usage Guideline wiki page we mention MgOpen Modata as teh "complementary font" and link to the upstream website, to a page which is not working any more: http://www.ellak.gr/fonts/mgopen/index.en.html Unfortunately the website had a major redesign, probably the page was moved, but the text is Greek and I wasn't able to figure it. The content of the page is available elsewhere, but that seems to be a copy, not a proper upstream: http://www.zvr.gr/typo/mgopen/index I think is useful to update our wiki with working links. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora release banners
On 05/08/2009 03:35 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: 2009/5/4 Nicu Buculei The basic layout is good (maybe the placement ans size of the logo could be better) but I think it would be an interesting idea to change the wording somehow so it includes the F11 slogan ("Reign"). I've two new versions, one of these includes the slogan "Reign", but I'm not sure that's ok... https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/be/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/00/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.svg Without the word "fedora" or the logo, I am afraid this one can work only for insiders, everybody else will not know what it is about. https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/1d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.svg This one I think is a bit too plain: wile having a simple default wallpaper (with no lion) is good for usability, is not the same for a banner, which should grab the eye. So the lion here is a good thing. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list