Re: Echo future
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: QtCurve doesn't work well with GTK. Funny, it works perfectly fine when I use it. Most GNOME people don't want KDE's features and appearance, and vice versa. If someone mixes them, his problem. Go and tell that to the people who run KDE and use Firefox and/or Thunderbird as their main browser/email client. I guess they'd rather have their principle programs stick out like sore thumbs. Can I predict that you run Gnome as your main desktop? I've noticed that this sort of attitude seems to come from Gnome-centric people who feel that having anything Qt-related on their system is a corruption of FLOSS, and ignore anyone who tries to run both at the same time. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo future
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: It's impossible to do a multi-DE icon set... I'm sorry for using such crude language out of the blue, but that is BULLSHIT. KDE and Gnome do not have that different an icon system that they cannot be used in tandem. In fact, what you're saying is that people working on unifying the appearance of the applications of both desktops (like the guys working on QtCurve and the various KDE-to-Gnome and Gnome-to-KDE style ports) should just give up, as what they're doing cannot be done, even though it has been. If KDE and Gnome cannot share one unified icon theme, how do you explain nuoveXT? Tango itself works pretty decently across both as well, and there's work ongoing to get Crystal SVG to work in Gnome as well. After all, I thought this very "impossibility" was the point of the freedesktop.org icon standard and icon-naming-utils... ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo future
Martin Sourada wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is stylistically (coincidentally) in between the tango style and oxygen style. I personally think that Echo can work quite good together (to some extent) with both, while tango and oxygen really don't work together at all.. For that very reason, I've been seriously thinking about making a blended icon theme that works well with both Qt and GTK+ apps, though I'm not an artist. I actually wrote a program of sorts that fed me a spreadsheet full of the Gnome icon names and whether they are symlinks to others or not (the purpose being so I can match KDE icons to Gnome icons, and figure out what symlinks to make that'll allow such an icon theme to work in both environments at the same time). ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Good News On the Fedora 8 Theme & Decisions
On Friday, July 27, 2007 5:51 pm Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I am working on it despite my heavy schedule. Echo icons will move to a > better host (hosted.fedoraproject.org)[1] that virtually eliminate some > quirks like echo-pull. I also let access to my art directory under > luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo so artwork team members can add their new > created icons. I have included all modified SVG I made months ago due to > librsvg2 issue, there are some icons that need to be fixed but I cannot do > all these tasks alone due to time constraint in school and work. I'd offer to help out, but icons are definitely something I can't do. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Good News On the Fedora 8 Theme & Decisions
On Friday, July 27, 2007 6:59 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > How would that work for GNOME? > > Rahul Okay, I see your point. Why there isn't a way to do theme editing from GNOME when everything else works just as well in GNOME as in KDE, I'll never know. I mean, what you have here is a non-DE specific theme that has been forced to be a DE-specific theme because of shortsightedness in configuration... Okay, then I say that KDE should use Klearlook as default, so it matches the GNOME Clearlook. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Good News On the Fedora 8 Theme & Decisions
On Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:05 pm Máirín Duffy wrote: > - F8 default theme engine: > > FESCo would like to see us make a decision on the default theme engine > for Fedora 8. Basically, if Nodoka is ready in time (the feature freeze > is Aug 28, might it be ready by then and testable by test 2, Sept 6?), > are we all comfortable with it being set as the default theme? How about > if Echo doesn't make it? (I'm using the Nodoka metacity theme right now > with the current default icon set, Mist, and I think that they > complement each other quite well. So I personally don't see there being > a dependency on Echo for Nodoka. What do you think?) I will continue to push the opinion that at this point in Fedora's history, the theme engine should REALLY be based on QtCurve... -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 Theme [Other Stuff]
On Friday, July 06, 2007 8:45 pm Leo wrote: > On 05/07/2007, Kelly wrote: > > I mean, the capabilities of the graphical boot system are present in > > the Linux kernel itself > > Is this true? In which version of kernel? I can't name off a specific kernel version, but I know that other distros (notably openSUSE and Mandriva) perform graphical boot using stuff directly in the kernel instead of a separate program. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/SuSE+10.2+Lizard+Bootsplash?content=53507 - This is the one I used to use. It uses mkinitrd to load the images somehow... A few seconds later: Okay, I found the site for it. The patch isn't part of the official kernel, so I was incorrect when I said it was. Though I still imagine it'd be faster and easier to use the kernel itself to do graphical boot than to use a separate program to do so. Anyway, the site is here: http://www.bootsplash.org/ -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F8 Theme [Other Stuff]
On Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:09 pm John Baer wrote: > It is my understanding the re-design of the RHGB is underway. Is there a reason RHGB is being reworked? I mean, the capabilities of the graphical boot system are present in the Linux kernel itself, so is there a specific reason why the functionality is being duplicated? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 8 theme requests
On Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:51 pm Daniel Geiger wrote: > I would like to see Firefox and OpenOffice have an Echo > icon theme enabled by default (I believe again, Ubuntu has something like > that, only not installed by default, AFAIK) Ubuntu uses the Tango Project theme as a base for its icon theme, which gives them a slight advantage; that being, they don't have to do each and every icon themselves. Most of them are already done. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Here are some of my ideas for Fedora 8 and Fedora 9
On Monday, July 02, 2007 5:24 pm Valent Turkovic wrote: > * Beagle and Deskbar installed by default > these applications make all the difference for an desktop user between > an "OK" user experience and "wonderful" user experience. Work flow > using these two applications is radically improved and this is what > should be showcased as a "Modern linux desktop". > - also I would add a beagle firefox plugin which also makes all the > difference when you need some resource you saw online but didn't > bookmark it or put it on del.ico.us > - these apps don't waste resources, and the memory footprint is really > not that much, especially if put in context that you really have to > look hard these days for a system that has less or equal to 256MB of > memory. I tested beagle on 3 laptop systems with fedora 6 / 7 and one > desktop with also fedora 6 / 7 and I didn't have a single issue. So > for me not to have in installed in Fedora 7 was a big disappointment. Beagle doesn't waste resources? Even Google Desktop is more efficient than Beagle, which has been the cause of serious memory slowndown on every Linux system I've run with it installed. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Thanks
On Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:23 pm John Baer wrote: > All, > > On the eve of the Fedora 7 launch I just want to say thank you to > everyone who contributed to this effort as I say "job well done"! > > Cheers, > > John I just wanted to mention that I'm going to be posting some of the stuff specifically made for the KDE spin here in the next few days. I meant to post it a few days ago, but the combination of annoying crashes and being sick delayed the work a bit. That "stuff" I mentioned includes the F7 Metabar theme (for Konqueror), the side banner for the KMenu and the logout image (which shows up when someone clicks "Log Out" from the KMenu). -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: shiny desktop, anyone?
> On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 12:49 +0100, Steve Hill wrote: > > On Wed, 30 May 2007, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > > If you want other distro for comparison - Mint Linux (as a good > > > example comes to mind) and UbuntuStudio (as a not so good example). > > > look at this: > > > http://linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/bianca-2.2/06.png > > > > Mint seem to have made the panel a bit more interesting, but the > > titlebars are very plain and boring (also my complaint with the Fedora > > theme). I'm willing to bet you're referring to the Gnome theme, but I did port sections of Mint's KDE design to Fedora... -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: shiny desktop, anyone?
On Monday, May 28, 2007 5:16 pm Valent Turkovic wrote: > > People are't raving about it - it is just a little more polished - > just what fedora 7 or 8 or 9 needs :) Why is every fedora the same - > theme wise? Each fedora has great artwork but the theme says the > same... that is just laziness :) or lack of insight... there should be > gnome theme that corresponds with the artwork IMHO. At lest a little > polish. What? Clearlooks rocks. In fact, I STILL say that KDE ought to use Klearlooks as the default widget theme just to get the similar look... -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Playing around with the wallpaper
I was playing around with the wallpaper, and I came up with this. http://crystalsanctuary.rpgsource.net/dp_stuff/fedora/flyinghigh.jpg -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora 7 Artwork?
Uh, is there a place where one can download multilayer versions of the current F7 theme artwork? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
On Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:11 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Kelly wrote: > > Uh... you didn't accidentally assume "I have" = "I designed", did you? > > I actually did. That sentence is ambiguous to me. Sorry, my fault. I didn't word it very well. > > At any rate, I meant in Fedora, because Klearlooks is the KDE equivalent > > of Clearlooks, which is what Fedora is using as default in GNOME. I > > notice that generally, it does a good job of unifying the appearance of > > programs (though I am mainly a KDE user, I use GTK+ programs as well, so > > it's nice to have a setup like Bluecurve/QtCurve/*looks to keep the > > programs looking the same). > > So the question becomes since you use that theme in KDE and use Fedora, > are you interested in maintaining the theme package within the Fedora > repository? I would, but I'm not entirely familiar with how to design RPM's. I usually just use checkinstall to make packages if I have to. -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
Uh... you didn't accidentally assume "I have" = "I designed", did you? At any rate, I meant in Fedora, because Klearlooks is the KDE equivalent of Clearlooks, which is what Fedora is using as default in GNOME. I notice that generally, it does a good job of unifying the appearance of programs (though I am mainly a KDE user, I use GTK+ programs as well, so it's nice to have a setup like Bluecurve/QtCurve/*looks to keep the programs looking the same). On Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:45 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Kelly wrote: > > To be entirely honest, IMO the default for KDE should be Klearlooks for > > the widgets at least. I have a really effective Dekorator theme which > > makes KDE windows look like GNOME/Clearlook windows, too... > > If you are serious about this proposal, you should work with the KDE SIG > and discuss this in the periodical meetings they have. A default theme > is something that should be taken very seriously since it affects the > look and feel, quality etc. At the minimum it should atleast be > available in the Fedora repository. We are very near the feature freeze > for Fedora 7 too. > > Rahul -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Bluecurve style: announcing QSimpleStyle
To be entirely honest, IMO the default for KDE should be Klearlooks for the widgets at least. I have a really effective Dekorator theme which makes KDE windows look like GNOME/Clearlook windows, too... On Monday, March 19, 2007 4:09 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Bluecurve was done almost entirely by a single person - Garrett LeSage, > who does not work for Red Hat anymore. Fedora itself has moved to using > Clearlooks for GNOME and possibly Plastik for KDE in Fedora 7 which is > the default upstream themes. The Bluecurve icon set has also been > replace by Echo in the current development tree. -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Mascot
If we're discussing the concept of a mascot, I'll just post the link to my personal favourite wallpaper on Fedora: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920609/?qo=23&q=by%3Ajuzo-kun&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps And of course... http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28920887/?qo=22&q=by%3Ajuzo-kun&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps Though I suspect that's not exactly what you're looking for... -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Including artwork from older releases
I imagine that'd be of use to to those who are running earlier versions as well (using the new artwork in the old versions is a MAJOR pain, as I found out personally). On Friday 23 February 2007 4:01:41 pm Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > Since the plan is to refresh the desktop theme for every release, we > would invariably have folks who like the artwork in one of the previous > releases better than the current one. Since we already have a rule about > not including version numbers in the current release, can we continue to > including the older themes in subsequent three releases or something > like that? > > The only problem with this is that rhgb is not easily themeable but > hopefully we are getting rid of that soon enough to not worry about it. > > Rahul > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
