Re: F10Themes/Binary
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Charlie Brej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've put up a theme proposal called Binary. The concept is a stream of I > and O symbols arranged into some mathematical pattern. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Binary > > All the examples are generated using the perl script (attached to the > page). If you have any ideas of shapes/patterns then please do tell me as it > would only take me a couple of minutes to change the code to generate the > desired effect. > I like grid1 and spiral100, great work! > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Jan 14, 2008 10:33 AM, Jeff Spaleta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/1/13 Laith Juwaidah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > What do you suggest? > I'm not going to suggest anything because I personally do not like the > idea of generating a background for uniqueness for a default. And > that's as far as I'm going to go with my personal opinion to avoid > shutting down a discussion that may hold a more palatable concept as > other people think about it. I'm open to persuasion generally. > > But the idea of the re-using the smolt id for theis sort of automatic > uniqueness is definitely a specific implementation to be discouraged, > because there was a deliberate effort to restrict what smolt does so > that it doesn't leak information. Re-using the smolt id, in anyway for > anything runs the risk of doing exactly that. Some people may very > well want to do it, but I very much doubt its not going to be a > technology that Fedora as a project will actively encourage people to > use. I wouldn't want to encourage to use an ssh key or password to > algorithmically generate a desktop image, and i think we should > respect the smolt id in a similar fashion. The idea of using smolt to generate unique backgrounds is that it will encourage people to send their profiles. Plus, all the reviews I read about F8 liked the idea of using an animated background. It'll be a good thing if we use a different trick every new release. In my opinion it's a pretty neat feature, people like "cool" stuff. :) > > > -jef > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Jan 14, 2008 9:30 AM, Jeff Spaleta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 10, 2008 12:53 AM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) > > > id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the "code" > shown at > > > your dsktop?! > > > > > > So everybody has his "own unique" Desktop wallpaper/theme and also > maybe > > > with the changing color as in F8??? > > > > Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may > > be even a bar code). > > This is NOT a good idea. The whole point of the smolt ids are that > they are suppose to be somewhat anonymous. If the id numbers are > encoded into the desktop, by default, without people's knowledge, then > people doing screencasts using the default desktops are essentially > leaking smolt id information without their express knowledge. > > You want to use another random algorithm based on system entropy to > produce uniqueness..fine... but don't use the smolt id as the basis of > the uniquness for the desktop image generation in any way please. > Considering the choices made concerning how smolt operates I would > have a real hard time support seeing any such smolt id based graphics > generation being shipped in fedora. It's not self-consistent with the > effort put into smolt to get the id's anonymous. What do you suggest? > > > -jef"Hey instead of the smolt id, for US citizens lets encoded the > social security number into the desktop image"spaleta > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
I have an idea, since we don't want the code to be put on the screen because that'll comprimise the user's privacy, and all, why don't we create a small pattern that'll change the background depending on the code, well, parts of the code. I don't know how the code looks like but I'll just assume it's something like this: 67c1e19532a4c47461486a5d8ad3ac74 (which is "Fedora 9"'s md5sum :D In this case we can create an algorithm that does the following (it's just an example): 1. Takes the first 3 digits as a HEX number and % it by 360 and then rotate the shape that many degrees. 2. Take the fourth and the fivth digits and increase the R by the amount of the fourth digit if the fifth digit % 2 is positive. 3. Take the sixth and the seventh digits and do the same for G. 4. Take the eighth and the ninth digits and do the same for B. etc... This way, the usrer's privacy won't be comprimised, and we can still brag about giving the users different backgrounds, which is somethig that no other distro have done (just a guess). What do you think? -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Thursday 10 January 2008 15:45:51 Nicu Buculei wrote: > Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > Gerold wrote: > > > I took a look at the below listed "round1" URLs and I personally > > > > tiked the > > > > > 9TO9 most ... > > > and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure > > > than somebody can realize my thoughts. > > > > > > When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique > > > (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer > > > is the "code" > > > > shown at > > > > > your dsktop?! > > > > > > So everybody has his "own unique" Desktop wallpaper/theme and > > > > also maybe > > > > About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period > > of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... > > Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change > > too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they > > used to in F8. > > PNG or SVG, this is an implementation detail, the important part would > be to get traction from the desktop guys to accept such a change. > > And as implementation details, I feel working with PNGs is more > complicated: you will need installed something like ImageMagik (which is > not available by default in a desktop install) to be able to generate > the image PNG and do the composition, with SVG is just a text search and > replace. Sorry :D I just thought that SVGs can't be used as backgrounds, my bad. -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Jan 10, 2008 1:53 PM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gerold wrote: > > > > I'm not really sure to be here on the "correct" list but I like to tell > > you something personal :-) > > You give feed-back about one of the proposals, so you are at least > partly on-topic. > > > I took a look at the below listed "round1" URLs and I personally tiked > the > > 9TO9 most ... > > and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than > > somebody can realize my thoughts. > > > > When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) > > id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the "code" shown > at > > your dsktop?! > > > > So everybody has his "own unique" Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe > > with the changing color as in F8??? > > Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may > be even a bar code). > And I think I got an idea about the implementation: we can have a SVG as > background. Is easy to modify that SVG file, is XML, but you can do a > test search and replace (with sed).So I believe it can be done (but I > suspect the current Nautilus won't notice the SVG update on the fly). I like this idea too... About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. > > > > Just my thoughts and ideas and also not really sure to post correct > here. > > Feel free to post it in the correct ML > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 21:01:56 Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > Steven Garrity wrote: > > Please look these two screenshots: > > http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBL > > http://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL > > > > One is FC6 and other is F8. > > > > Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and > > too bland IMHO. I would love to see Fedora 9 get the gtk theme it > > deserves. > > > > So slowing down design really sound bad to me. > > > > Valent. > > I saw these two quite long quite a long ago and you were told, that the > difference is obvious, though subtle. > > As for the Fedora 9 gtk theme. So far this [1] seems what will be in > Fedora 9, although there is still room for improvement. But why don't > you come up with something awesome yourself? We are all doing our best > while you seem to just rant about how things would be better. Cool, I like what we have now, I think that a rounded aqua would be awesome :) > > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/Screenshots -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 00:06:07 Steven Garrity wrote: > John Baer wrote: > > Does it make sense to change the theme every other release cycle and > > use the off cycle to improve or tweak the current theme? > > This is a good point - it would be nice to see a somewhat common theme > getting more and more polished with each release. More of an evolution > than a complete redesign each time. That said, the last few themes have > been a bit like this. > > Things that are easier to change, like the splash screens and wallpaper > can change more frequently and dramatically. Things that are more > challenging to redesign well, like Gtk and Metacity themes evolve more > slowly. > > This reminds me of the 6 layers of buildings from Stewart Brand's > classic book, How Buildings Learn: > http://www.peterme.com/archives/0323.html > > I would like to see a general visual theme for Fedora that can slowly > evolve and improve with each release, but still have enough wiggle-room > for each release to feel new and exciting. > > I proposed a seasonal Spring/Fall theme set to coincide with the > time-based release schedule of Fedora back in November. I've been trying > to create a page for it on the wiki, but I'm having trouble getting my > account created (probably my own fault). > > Quoting myself: > > As the Fedora release schedule is now about as reliable as the coming > > of spring and fall, it occurred to me that spring and fall might > > serve as appropriate visual themes for alternating releases. > > > > Both "spring" and "fall" (aka autumn) are nice natural visual > > metaphors that have recognizable and (potentially) beautiful color > > schemes associated with them. They are also both "natural" themes, > > which can work well for desktop themes. > > > > Perhaps we could adopt a "spring" visual theme for the odd-numbered > > releases that fall in the spring, and a "fall" visual theme for the > > even-numbered releases that fall in the, well, fall. Could it also be that the colors match the season (green for spring releases and yellow/orange for fall ones?)? > > > > This would also provide a way to have a strong visual change between > > releases, but still build on a larger theme that could grow more > > refined over multiple releases. > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-November/msg00099.html > > A theme like this would allow a common thread for all Fedora release > visuals, but also a nice back-and-forth change for each release. > > Cheers, > Steven Garrity > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F9 theme proposal] (Also Freedom :)) Round 1
I'm not being mean or anything, but I don't think having war stuff in the wallpaper is a good idea, I don't wanna see war whenever I open my computer. Honestly, I'll change the theme if that is actually the default for F9. Sorry for being rude, but I really hate war! I'm from Iraq if that helps :D Cheers! :) On Monday 31 December 2007 01:33:43 Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > I could't give this another name, because it just screams "freedom" > and freedom already exists but it is a different theme (or it is not) > and involves chains. > > Please look at this picture: > http://www.faith47.com/images/Slice_03_03.gif > > It is from artists that work on www.dynebolic.org linux distro. > > I'm not an artist but a photographer and art critic and I have an eye > for combining things. I can see fedora logo in the hands of that > person and it would make a great wallpaper. > > The idea is this: > In the background (bw looks great but also pale fedora colors would > work) there are all the symbols and tools for taking away freedom and > in the center you see fedora logo that represents freedom in color as > it overcomes all that in background. > > Any comments? > > Valent. -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: I add Two theme
On Friday 28 December 2007 13:34:10 Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all > > perhaps second theme have not good name > >1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere >2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night I like the first picture of electric sphere, can you figure out a way to make it a background? :P -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: My word for F9
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 19:39:44 Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > Hi :) Some idea for Art work of Fedora 9 proposal > > 1.Fedora - electric sphere I really really really like Electric sphere!!! > 2. Fedora - Podr > 3. Fedora - Fruits > 4. Fedora - lime > 5.Fedora - Angel fish > 6. Fedora - Orange juice > > http://www.molaora.com/data/files/thumb/lime_kiwi_fedora.png > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Background idea
If you're talking about backgrounds like Max OS's or F8's or SuSE's then I'm with you, this kind of background suits most people! On Monday 17 December 2007 17:15:47 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > I'm just wondering about image style. I have no concretes. > > Am Montag, den 17.12.2007, 14:53 +0200 schrieb Nicu Buculei: > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > > I'm thinking now about F9 background, and I think that striped > > > background is best choice for professional look. > > > > Which striped background? -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: GDM Idea
On Sunday 16 December 2007 01:11:15 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Hi, > > I'm coming with GDM-styling idea. SUSE said some words about it [1] > > I think we should provide two GDM themes: > > * userlist only (default) > * entry (available as option) > > Also, I think we should change our GDM style to have more transparency > (less opacity :> ). > > Something looking like one of their (SUSE's) mockups [1] or SLiM' > default theme [2] would be very nice :) . > > Say what you think. Bye. > > > > > 1| http://en.opensuse.org/Branding_Overview:os10.3:GDM > 2| http://slim.berlios.de/images/slim01.jpg +1 I really like SuSE's menu-based login screen -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
On Thursday 13 December 2007 11:11:17 Nicu Buculei wrote: > Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > And the thing is: Are users ready for 3D computer generated graphics? > > We already had such themes: DNA, the theme from Fedora Core 6, was 3D > graphics, made with Blender by Mola. > Also, we had a few proposals for F7 made with Blender. "Infinity" was > selected in the end, but "Moon" > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F8theme-moon) was a strong candidate. WOW! Moon looks awesome I think I just got an inpired by it, I'll see if I can come up with some wallpaper. > > > Maybe a scene from nature with a huge space can mean freedom too, and it > > is more comon, not that I suggest this[1] (the downloads have reached > > 80,000+), but something similar, well, a morning version would be great > > :P > > Back in the F7 process when Mo proposed the "Infinity" concept she came > with a few ideas, and one of them was about nature scenes. > However, I think we tend to prefer computer generated images instead of > photos as one of our goals it to showcase made with own tools, this was > one of the things we are proud about F7: for the first time the theming > was made completely using FOSS tools. The balloons? Humm... Never knew that! > > > Check out the highest rated wallpaper at kde-look.org[2], I didn't go to > > the second page, but the top 15 (the first page) are all natural scenes, > > that means that people like this kind of wallpapers > > I don't want to sound rude, but such an user rating is not the best > criteria for judgment. Otherwise, we will put as wallpaper some anime > soft porn and get instantly huge user ratings. Hahahahah! Not rude at all :P Cheers! -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Link for official F9 theme proposal
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 10:45:11 Michael Beckwith wrote: > The problem with symbols like NYC or the Statue of Liberty is that they > don't necessarily mean the same thing to everyone. Pidgeon is more > likely, but someone would have to research what other cultures think as > well. > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > Freedom? I think best symbol of freedom is pidgeon or statue of liberty > > (or something like that). > > > > Maybe an city, like New York, the liberty statue and a pidgeon flying > > over :] ? > > > > Dnia 11-12-2007, wto o godzinie 22:45 -0600, Michael Beckwith pisze: > >> Updated the theme page with two more visual ideas. > >> > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Fedora-art-list mailing list > >> Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Isn't pidgeon more of a peace symbol than freedom? And the thing is: Are users ready for 3D computer generated graphics? Maybe a scene from nature with a huge space can mean freedom too, and it is more comon, not that I suggest this[1] (the downloads have reached 80,000+), but something similar, well, a morning version would be great :P Check out the highest rated wallpaper at kde-look.org[2], I didn't go to the second page, but the top 15 (the first page) are all natural scenes, that means that people like this kind of wallpapers Am I over-analyzing things? :D [1] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/NIGHT?content=25331 [2] http://kde-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0&xcontentmode=1x2x3x4x5x6x7x29x71x72x73 -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 02:40:13 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Kidding? I'm not. > mp3 → ogg is only getting quality lower and lower. > mp3 is popular on the web, sorry. > Also, my player plays mp3 and wma (mp3 is better - non-ms). > > EOT? Yes :) > > Dnia 12-12-2007, śro o godzinie 01:55 +0400, Laith Juwaidah pisze: > > On Wednesday 12 December 2007 01:35:52 Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 22:22 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > > > Sure. > > > > > > > > PS: It's still stupid to me... > > > > > > This is why we don't like non-free/patent-encumbered software! > > > > I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource > > fans (not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg > > format? And to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha, > > just kidding :D > > > > > Jon > > > > > > ___ > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 01:35:52 Jonathan Roberts wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 22:22 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > Sure. > > > > PS: It's still stupid to me... > > This is why we don't like non-free/patent-encumbered software! I know this is way off topic, but I really wanna know, do you, opensource fans (not that I'm not), not use mp3? Is your music collection in ogg format? And to make it completely off topic, any good converters? Hahaha, just kidding :D > > Jon > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 21:17:53 Nicu Buculei wrote: > Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > I just thought that since it is one of the distros that have higher hit > > rank than us, may be we should compete with them, but, I guess we should > > just be ourselves :) > > You know, is so easy to create awesome mockups... making them work is a > completely different matter. > I remember back then when Cairo was new, there were *huge* hopes about > it and some absolutely awesome mockups about how Fedora could look... > Phew! I was wondering if it is possible too, but I thought it was only me that's why I didn't say anything. > (BTW, I don't think that proposal for Hardy Heron is a good theme, it > does look cool at the first sight, but I am not sure about working with > it 24x7) -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:45:46 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Don't be sily, that would require work. They're not good if were talking > about own projects... Few programs... > > Again, pixmap engine would be used or own GTK engine - they'll not > realise it, because of big work required. And the accessibility reasons > - they may be important. > > By the way, please don't take inspiration from other distros. > I know from experience, it's not good inspiration source [1]. > > Fedora is Fedora, Ubuntu is Ubuntu, etc. > > We have our minds, they have their minds. > We shouldn't be thinking "they have better NetworkManager" or so, we > should think "our NetworkManager sucks, we must to do something with > him". > > This is simple example of patriotic thinking. > > Greets ;) . > > > > 1| Don't ask, please. You do have a very good point. I just thought that since it is one of the distros that have higher hit rank than us, may be we should compete with them, but, I guess we should just be ourselves :) Cheers! -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme
Hi, I just found this digg[1] today. I NEVER liked Ubuntu's theme (the orangy one), but now with that brown color, that smooth bar, those round edges around the bubble, and the semi-transparant menu, it looks pretty amazing! We really should beat that, we can't let that brown-ish thing beat us! I'm sure there's a good blue theme that looks better than that treehouse! Cheers! [1] http://digg.com/linux_unix/Could_This_Become_Ubuntu_s_New_Theme_for_Hardy_Heron -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: KDE: Default Style
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 14:45:53 Martin Sourada wrote: > On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 10:26 +0100, Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > -1 > > > > I don't think they should be identical. Let's face it! KDE has better > > looks than GNOME, and that was one of the reasons why I am using KDE, > > Let's face the fact that this is quite subjective. The default KDE look > seems to me like unfinished work, while the default GNOME look > (Clearlooks) is polished and professional. One of the reasons I don't > use KDE is that it looked ugly to me with every theme I tried. KDE4 > seems to be getting better, we'll see... I'm not talking about the default theme, I remeber when I first tried Linux, it was SuSE Enterprise Linux Desktop (10 I guess), it had both GNOME and KDE installed but the default desktop environment was GNOME, I did't know Linux had more than one desktop environment and all that, so I just kept using GNOME, I tried to change the way it looks, but... The only one that I found I liked was Industrial, then, I found the miracle of KDE, I tried it and I had much more choices by default, and all of them look better than GNOME's, well, other than redmonde :P > > > now that KDE4 is on the way, it will have even more power, and I > > really don't think we should take that away from KDE users just > > because GNOME can't do that! > > Default theme is not about power. It is about clean a professional look. > Eyecandy like animations, reflections, ... sure does more harm than > good. Try to use one theme for several years. With most of the themes > out in the wild you'll get bored of them after few months, while > Clearlooks is the exact opposite, and I hope Nodoka is going to be same > in that way. > I agree with you that a theme gets boring after a while (I pitty windows users :P) but I totally disagree when it comes to clearlooks, it's just another theme, people will get bored of it after a while. Plus, the default theme is not the way you measure how powerful a desktop environment is, when it comes to graphics, it's about what the comunity can create for it using whatever is provided to them by the developers. I'm not here to criticise GNOME, all I'm saying is that when it comes to decorations, KDE can do more. Cheers! > > Cheers! > > > > -- > > > > Laith Juwaidah > > > > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > > Martin > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: KDE: Default Style
On Monday 03 December 2007 13:22:33 Mark wrote: > 2007/12/2, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > > > As I use KDE one/two years ago, I know this environment quite good. > > > > When I was using it, I've found nice alternative for Plastik: Lipstik. > > > > Now it's being scratch-built in Koji [1]. > > > > My proposal is to make Lipstik default style for KDE3 in F9 (if KDE4 > > will not replace KDE3 in F9 :> ). > > I would make gnome and kde look identical (in skin). > Lipstik looks nice to. > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -1 I don't think they should be identical. Let's face it! KDE has better looks than GNOME, and that was one of the reasons why I am using KDE, now that KDE4 is on the way, it will have even more power, and I really don't think we should take that away from KDE users just because GNOME can't do that! Cheers! -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka 0.2 for KDE
On Thursday 29 November 2007 18:43:33 Mark wrote: > Hi, > > are you gonna make one for KDE 4 as well? ^_^ > > 2007/11/21, Laith Juwaidah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > > > I just uploaded it to my fedorapeople space[1]. > > > > I'll upload it to git soon! > > > > Oh, and sorry about the name... I just remember that it's called > > ndoka-kwin-theme after I uploaded this :D > > > > Have fun and give feedbacks :) > > > > Cheers! > > > > [1] > > http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/Nodo > >kaWindowDecorationKDE-0.2.tar.gz -- > > Laith Juwaidah > > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > > > > ___ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list That you should ask Kevin Kofler, he said that he's going to work on porting DeKorator to KDE4, once he does that you can use the theme on KDE4, but, there's nothing to be done from my part :) Cheers! -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: start the process for F9 theming?
On Wednesday 28 November 2007 14:22:37 Nicu Buculei wrote: > María Leandro wrote: > > I think that I understand a different thing: > > > > I'm working into a Fedora wallpaper that should work for F9, and some of > > my ideas are to making it alive :D (If the people was happy with the > > infinity giving us the time... we could make the same transition of > > images on the desktop but using something different as a pattern). > > I wanted to bring a talk (in a different thread) about dynamic versus > static backgrounds and what we are aiming for in F9, but if you said > about it, here is a good place to talk. > > The dynamic background was a popular feature, well received in the > reviews, a step forward. But on the other hand it may limit the design > options: it work very well for an abstract theme like Infinity, but it > won't work for something elaborated like FlyingHigh and it would be hard > (but not impossible) for something like DNA. > So there are ups and downs. > > > The window style... Can we ad some textures to menu bar? (Gnome and KDE) > > like a 3D sensation? I now that we could make something on inkscape > > looking like a pipe and instead see the things up the bar this COULD BE > > SEEN as inside... (but I'm not shure that if this is possible just > > saying what I have in mind to develop for F9 AS PERSONAL WORK) > > Like http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/155 ? Yes, it should be > possible to use pixmaps engines, but they are usually slower and consume > more resources (and in my personal opinion look busy). > > > Menu, window... everithing we CAN make a new window style like > > 3D why don't we go for it? > > Why? Because nobody convinced us this is the best thing. The best way > would be for you, I think, to create a mockup, post it here and impress > everybody. > > > Yes... Here on LatinAmerica (Venezuela) the patents issue is really big, > > so (kind'a proposition) why don't we re-make a new style concept on > > the desktop for Fedora 9? It could be the start for a longer way. > > The same thing: post a mockup and get some enthusiastic followers. If it > is something complex it may take more than one release cycle. Wow! A lot as been going on here :) María, I like your proposals (3D, dynamic backgrounds, etc), I've been thinking about the samething, but I didn't say anything because I thought that it'd be stupid and not welcome. I would like to talk to you about this, and maybe we can let the rest know about what we reach as a conclusion :) Do you use GTalk? I'll add you up! Cheers! -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: start the process for F9 theming?
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 20:50:09 Nicu Buculei wrote: > Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > I'll add Falco to the list... :) > > Please note, this is about wallpaper theming (including splash screens) > not about window decorations or icons, those are orthogonal projects > (the background you used for the Falco screenshot [1] is not original, > so it won't qualify, but you can create something in the same style). > > [1] - http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Falco/Falco.png OK :) I'll try that :) -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: start the process for F9 theming?
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 19:37:08 Nicu Buculei wrote: > The schedule for the F9 release is published [2], I think the time to > start the process for its graphics, so I created the placeholder wiki > page [1] (dates are marked as TBD, they will be defined by Mo, probably > counting the F9 release schedule and the winter holidays). > > What do you think about the 3 round process based on the past > experience? Do it need modifications, improvements? There were some > ideas for an additional preliminary round. > > So talk in this thread about the process and in new threads about > theming proposals. > > [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes > [2] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule I'll add Falco to the list... :) -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Falco Theme
On Sunday 25 November 2007 21:42:13 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Plastik... Today I'll send Review Request for Lipstik. When it's ready, > you can use it... And change color scheme. Default Plastik is so ugly. > > Dnia 25-11-2007, nie o godzinie 20:19 +0400, Laith Juwaidah pisze: > > Say whatevery you want, but I am not obsessed with the word Falco, it's > > just that I couldn't think of any other name for the theme. > > > > I didn't actually create this theme, I just got it from two components > > from kde-look.org (A background called Light, and a DeKorator theme > > called Crystal Cursive :-/). > > > > It's a KDE theme, but it's not so hard to port to gnome, it's simple... > > > > You can find a screenshot of it here [1]. > > > > Your opinions please :) > > > > Cheers! > > > > [1] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Falco/Falco.png > > ___ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I was talking about the background and the windeco :) But I like lipstik, I might use that.. and the color theme, i used infinity's color theme, for now.. I'll work on it :) Thanks -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Falco Theme
Say whatevery you want, but I am not obsessed with the word Falco, it's just that I couldn't think of any other name for the theme. I didn't actually create this theme, I just got it from two components from kde-look.org (A background called Light, and a DeKorator theme called Crystal Cursive :-/). It's a KDE theme, but it's not so hard to port to gnome, it's simple... You can find a screenshot of it here [1]. Your opinions please :) Cheers! [1] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Falco/Falco.png -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 Name Proposal
On Friday 23 November 2007 15:32:01 Marek Mahut wrote: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > Simply - Owl, Nightbird, Humming or Bird :) . > > Why always choose sense-less names? :) I'm wondering why not take a name > of person to show their merits (from scientifics to lobbists). > >Fedora 9 codename Copernic > sounds great to me :) > > This would have more "culture" and human feeling that "moonshine" or > "werewolf". Read the bases on which a name should be chosen here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Names -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Nodoka 0.2 for KDE
Hi, I just uploaded it to my fedorapeople space[1]. I'll upload it to git soon! Oh, and sorry about the name... I just remember that it's called ndoka-kwin-theme after I uploaded this :D Have fun and give feedbacks :) Cheers! [1] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/NodokaWindowDecorationKDE-0.2.tar.gz -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Nodoka 0.2 for KDE
Hi, I just uploaded it to my fedorapeople space[1]. I'll upload it to git soon! Oh, and sorry about the name... I just remember that it's called ndoka-kwin-theme after I uploaded this :D Have fun and give feedbacks :) Cheers! [1] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/NodokaWindowDecorationKDE-0.2.tar.gz -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity 24 for KDE
On Thursday 15 November 2007 08:12:11 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: > > Laith Juwaidah wrote: > >> I made a small --literally-- script that does that (change the > >> background), it is to be used with KDE's advanced desktop options and > >> the 24 pictures that can be found here[1]. > >> > >> The script itself can be found on my fedorapeople[2]. > >> [2] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Infinity/KDE/Wallpaper > > > > Can you provide (step-by-step) instructions on how to set this up? Where > > to download Wallpapers, how to configure the KDE desktop, etc.? > > Better yet, can we push this functionality in as an update so that KDE > by default in Fedora 8 does this? > > Rahul > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I don't know, people's comps might be slow (it takes some time to re-size the picture once an hour (a few secs on my machine, but it can be longer on slower ones)), people may not want to use Fedora's background, etc... However, we can make a package of the script and the pictures but not activate them by default. Here are the steps: 1. Create a new folder and call it Infinity. 2. Download all the pictures in http://people.redhat.com/duffy/artwork/infinity-24/ to that folder (they should be 24 png files). 3. Download the script from http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Infinity/KDE/Wallpaper/infinity and put it in the same folder. 4. If you want to install it for yourself only then copy the folder you created to ~/.kde/share/wallpapers (if it doesn't exist, create it), if you want to install it for all the users, then copy it to /usr/share/wallpapers instead, but you have to be the root. 5. To change your background, right click on your desktop and click Configure Desktop, click on No Picture, then click on Advanced Options. 6. In the window that opens, click on add. 7. In the name field, enter Infinity, in the command field enter ~/.kde/share/wallpapers/Infinity/infinity %x %y %f , or /user/share/wallpapers/Infinity/infinity %x %y %f , depending on where you installed it. 8. Put the same line in Preview cmd, and put ~/.kde/share/wallpapers/Infinity/infinity or /user/share/wallpapers/Infinity/infinity in Executable, and set the Refresh time to 60 min. 9. Click on OK, OK, then OK. Cheers! -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Infinity 24 for KDE
I made a small --literally-- script that does that (change the background), it is to be used with KDE's advanced desktop options and the 24 pictures that can be found here[1]. The script itself can be found on my fedorapeople[2]. Cheers! [1] http://people.redhat.com/duffy/artwork/infinity-24/ [2] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Infinity/KDE/Wallpaper -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 Name Proposal
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 21:49:43 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > I'll always say what I think is better... Do not go so high - to the > planets :P . > > Maybe Dog or Wolf... Relations with Werewolf are obvious xD . > > Dnia 13-11-2007, wto o godzinie 21:44 +0400, Laith Juwaidah pisze: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2007 21:32:15 Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > On Nov 12, 2007 10:58 PM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > > > > Simply - Owl, Nightbird, Humming or Bird :) . > > > > > > > > I absolutely hate to be "that guy" but... the name decision is not > > > > ours (Art Team) to make and traditionally now is also too early for > > > > it. > > > > > > Is it too early? I think there are proposed changes for the > > > development process which would put the "naming" process earlier in > > > part to get the art team time to have the option to build a theme > > > associated with the codename. > > > > > > Regardless of when it happens, there are established rules for the > > > name game, which I assume people in this thread are not aware of. > > > Names between releases must relate. Release N+1 must be named such > > > that releaser N+1 relates to N, such that releases N+1 and N-1 are not > > > similarly related. So we can for example just keep picking city names > > > or flower names over and over again. > > > > > > The rules for F9 as I understand them are: > > > The relationship that connects Moonshine and Werewolf cannot be > > > re-used. The F9 name and werewolf must share are "both are" > > > relationship. The F9 name and moonshine must not share a "both are" > > > relationship You also should provide an obvious next relationship that > > > can be used to connect the name to F9 to F10 > > > > > > The "Unicorn" example I provided follows the name game rules. I stated > > > the N+1 to N relationship explicitly. Both a unicorn and a werewolf > > > are mythical creatures whereas moonshine is not. > > > I also hinted at the next relationship that can be used to move beyond > > > unicorn. Unicorn was the mascot for my high school, so for F10 you > > > could move from unicorn to any high school mascot that was not a > > > mystical creature. Though that's actually not a good out. A better out > > > would be Tom Cruise movie co-stars (a unicorn was in the movie > > > Legend). > > > > > > Names like "galaxy" or "night bird" need to be given in the context of > > > the "N+1 and N are a something, but N+1 and N-1 are not a > > > something" rule. The naming isn't random, but its constrained by how > > > clever we are coming up with relationships between the names. > > > > > > -jef > > > > > > ___ > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > Jupiter? That's a fictional eagle :) And, we can use some other planet's > > name for F10 :) > > > > ___ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list How about Jupiter, and some other God's pet's name ;) I just think that using an eagle-related name is good, 'cause it links to freedom... Cheers! -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 Name Proposal
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 21:32:15 Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 10:58 PM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > > Simply - Owl, Nightbird, Humming or Bird :) . > > > > I absolutely hate to be "that guy" but... the name decision is not ours > > (Art Team) to make and traditionally now is also too early for it. > > Is it too early? I think there are proposed changes for the > development process which would put the "naming" process earlier in > part to get the art team time to have the option to build a theme > associated with the codename. > > Regardless of when it happens, there are established rules for the > name game, which I assume people in this thread are not aware of. > Names between releases must relate. Release N+1 must be named such > that releaser N+1 relates to N, such that releases N+1 and N-1 are not > similarly related. So we can for example just keep picking city names > or flower names over and over again. > > The rules for F9 as I understand them are: > The relationship that connects Moonshine and Werewolf cannot be re-used. > The F9 name and werewolf must share are "both are" relationship. > The F9 name and moonshine must not share a "both are" relationship > You also should provide an obvious next relationship that can be used > to connect the name to F9 to F10 > > The "Unicorn" example I provided follows the name game rules. I stated > the N+1 to N relationship explicitly. Both a unicorn and a werewolf > are mythical creatures whereas moonshine is not. > I also hinted at the next relationship that can be used to move beyond > unicorn. Unicorn was the mascot for my high school, so for F10 you > could move from unicorn to any high school mascot that was not a > mystical creature. Though that's actually not a good out. A better out > would be Tom Cruise movie co-stars (a unicorn was in the movie > Legend). > > Names like "galaxy" or "night bird" need to be given in the context of > the "N+1 and N are a something, but N+1 and N-1 are not a > something" rule. The naming isn't random, but its constrained by how > clever we are coming up with relationships between the names. > > -jef > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Jupiter? That's a fictional eagle :) And, we can use some other planet's name for F10 :) -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 Name Proposal
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 10:01:03 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > +1 for Galaxy > > Dnia 12-11-2007, pon o godzinie 20:50 -0300, Sven von Brand Laredo > > pisze: > > Hisham Abdel-Magid wrote: > > > how about AngelWings ? (i am still in favour with "reaching higher" > > > then "reaching to infinity" styles) .. > > > > Going for the same flavour, how about something space like, Shuttle or > > SpaceShip or Galaxy. > > > > Greetings Finally! Something different :P Have you read Michael Beckwith's post titled F9 theming [1]? It suggests that the theme should represent freedom (since the current theme is Infinity)... So I thought of Naming F9 based on that too... I did some research on the internet, and I found this [2]. But, since we just can't call it "Bald Eagle, I looked on wikipedia [3]. In the synonyms, there's a name in Latin that goes back to 1766, which is "Falco leucocephalus", but since that is too long, I thought that calling it Falco is just right! It'll be an Eagle :) What do you think? [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-November/msg00106.html [2] http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060904174930AAS81GP [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_eagle -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F9 Name Proposal
On Monday 12 November 2007 23:58:45 Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Myths... Maybe Athena, Mars, Zeus/Dzeus or others? > Please, don't... > > Dnia 12-11-2007, pon o godzinie 10:54 -0900, Jeff Spaleta pisze: > > Unicorn, like a werewolf is a mythical creature. > > > > -jef"and the best high school sports mascot ever"spaleta > > > > ___ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Why does it have to be Mozila-applications-like names? ThunderBird! FireFox! GreaseMonkey! FlyingCow! SingingDog! BarkingDove! GlowingBull! ThinkingMouse! SqueakingRabbit! HissingKangaroo! :P I admit that these names are funny and cool, but... OK! How about something that is actually happening? It's name should be inspired by what's happening, or what to expect from it, for example, if we're expecting F9 to revolutionize the way we deal with comps :-/ It should be called "Revolution"... But, to go with the flow, do you guys like the name "Mocking Bird"? I don't know what that bird is, but I like a song called the mocking bird :) -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I can fix the gerying out thing, but I'm quite sure that the height is exactly the same as that of the original theme, well, at least that's how it looked in the screen shot on Nodoka's wiki page. It would be very helpful if you provide me with a screen shot that includes two open windows, that'll help me solve both problems, preferably with the mouse over one of the buttons, 'cause I'm not quite sure of the hover effect. Thanks a lot for correcting me :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHLgTrfryOdPLjmbIRAgfGAJ9J+F5LYZaKpB3nZkkt7/3FlOfecQCeJ0US i6q5sF6mXrI+nCo+q8Q/5mA= =cVsS -END PGP SIGNATURE- On 11/4/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > There are two issues. > > 1) Too little titlebar height. > > 2) Inactive window titlebar should be grayed out. > > -- > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek > http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE
Sure, I don't mind it being called nodoka-kwin-theme. I'll add myself to the gitnodoka group, and wait for your response. I just tried changing the inactive title bar color in the color theme, and that actually changed the color of the inactive title bar, I'll try to fiddle with that tomorrow. Thanks :) On 11/5/07, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Laith, > > On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 21:05 +0100, Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > Humm... > > > > That wasn't as helpful as I expected it to be... > > > > I can't use that to create this theme 'cause it is partially > > transparent... > > > Of course... he took the screenshot with compiz/beryl enabled... > > > I know the hover and click effects work fine, the inactive title bar > > grays out now, however, it becomes a bit darker than the original > > theme. > > > > I don't know how I can increase the height... Are you using Beryl or > > Compiz? Try disabling that, that might help remove the shadows and the > > transparency, that's when I can use those screen shots to create my > > theme :P > > > I am content with it as a start. As for the height, it is as I wanted it > at first, however the gnome font setting are such that the height is > bigger. If you'd like it to be same, just adjust the font settings. Do > you want me to create a new component (are you OK with nodoka-kwin-theme > for its name?) at the nodoka upstream git repository? I can also give > you rights to write there, but you'll need to add yourself to gitnodoka > group at the fedora accounts system. > > Oh, just in case, the colouring of the win title should be done > according to qt theme, the focused colour is derived from colour for > selected items and the unfocused colour is derived from colour for > insensitive background. You can look into the metacity theme for exact > values [1]. > > Thanks for your efforts, > Martin > > References: > [1] > > http://git.fedoraproject.org/?p=hosted/nodoka;a=blob;f=trunk/nodoka-theme-gnome/Nodoka/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml;h=22c18830cfda1ce7646721e869f556549b69b09c;hb=HEAD > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE
Humm... That wasn't as helpful as I expected it to be... I can't use that to create this theme 'cause it is partially transparent... I know the hover and click effects work fine, the inactive title bar grays out now, however, it becomes a bit darker than the original theme. I don't know how I can increase the height... Are you using Beryl or Compiz? Try disabling that, that might help remove the shadows and the transparency, that's when I can use those screen shots to create my theme :P Thanks again :) On 11/4/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Two windows, few effects. > > 1) Normal > > 2) Active window button hover > > 3) Inactive window button hover > > 4) Active window button pressed (pressing button in inactive window > causes window focus on inactive window) > > > > 1| http://img.wklej.org/images/87044nod.png > 2| http://img.wklej.org/images/36619nodhovact.png > 3| http://img.wklej.org/images/74777nodhovinact.png > 4| http://img.wklej.org/images/23856nodpress.png > > -- > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek > http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE
I can fix the gerying out thing, but I'm quite sure that the height is exactly the same as that of the original theme, well, at least that's how it looked in the screen shot on Nodoka's wiki page. It would be very helpful if you provide me with a screen shot that includes two open windows, that'll help me solve both problems, preferably with the mouse over one of the buttons, 'cause I'm not quite sure of the hover effect. Thanks a lot for correcting me :) On 11/4/07, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > There are two issues. > > 1) Too little titlebar height. > > 2) Inactive window titlebar should be grayed out. > > -- > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek > http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I thought I sent this message a few days ago, but when I checked in the mailing list's archives, I didn't find it there, so, here it is again. I created a Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE, you can see a screen shot of it [1]here. I put it on my fedorapeople account [2], and on my blog [3], but since they're both new, I don't think anybody will notice them. So, I decided to subscribe to the mailing list and inform you guys. You can find the package here [4], just extract it, and you'll find a file called installation.txt that has the instruction. Cheers! [1] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/NodokaWindowDecorationKDE.png [2] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org [3] http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com [4] http://ljuwaida.fedorapeople.org/Artwork/Nodoka/KDE/WindowDecoration/NodokaWindowDecorationKDE.tar.gz - -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHLfdcfryOdPLjmbIRArXjAJ9H+DXijlJJhthlhzDiXyVpdIf3rACfTYud IBcrF2PiBKzPWSwlVvO1idg= =FZ9x -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
