Re: ArtTeam Wiki ReDesign

2007-03-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 00:02 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
 Hi Paul,
 
 On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 19:13 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
  It would be nice if the new pages didn't break all the old links to
  fp.o/wiki/Artwork.  John, can you move these pages to use the existing
  Artwork name (without the capital W)?  Right now, it looks like the
  original Artwork page has simply been disintegrated, and any
  contributors trying to reach that page are dumped to the no such page
  page.  Any other agreeable scheme that you guys like which keeps all the
  existing links working within reason is fine, too.
 
 I went ahead and did this, so all the ArtWork pages now redirect to
 their Artwork counterparts. Hope this is OK John. We have so many pages
 that still used Artwork it seemed kind of overwhelming to change them
 all over so I just moved the 3 or 4 that were ArtWork. :)

Thanks Máirín!

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ArtTeam Wiki ReDesign

2007-03-06 Thread John Baer
All,

IMO we pushed the envelope of wiki design and the result is an
attractive and professional look.

Thanks Nicu for your logo submission. It looks great! I also wanted to
note the logo image is a hot link back to the ArtWork page.

:)

John 

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Re: ArtTeam Wiki ReDesign

2007-03-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Mar 6 mars 2007 12:29, John Baer a écrit :
 All,

 IMO we pushed the envelope of wiki design and the result is an
 attractive and professional look.

could the two blue header bars be merged? I hate multi-bar design

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Re: ArtTeam Wiki ReDesign

2007-03-06 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hi Paul,

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 19:13 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
 It would be nice if the new pages didn't break all the old links to
 fp.o/wiki/Artwork.  John, can you move these pages to use the existing
 Artwork name (without the capital W)?  Right now, it looks like the
 original Artwork page has simply been disintegrated, and any
 contributors trying to reach that page are dumped to the no such page
 page.  Any other agreeable scheme that you guys like which keeps all the
 existing links working within reason is fine, too.

I went ahead and did this, so all the ArtWork pages now redirect to
their Artwork counterparts. Hope this is OK John. We have so many pages
that still used Artwork it seemed kind of overwhelming to change them
all over so I just moved the 3 or 4 that were ArtWork. :)

~m

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Re: ArtTeam Wiki ReDesign

2007-03-05 Thread John Baer
Dimitris wrote:
 My only comment is to minimize the hard-coded HTML and try to put
 things in CSS
 as much as possible. So, the 8 lines of header-code could possibly
 become:
 ||tableclass=pageHeader artTeam||

Dimitris,

I agree but I did not know how to localize a style sheet specifically to
the ArtTeam. Changing the HTML code in one location was not much effort
(and safe). To test the theory I changed to banner to use a submission
from Nicu. :)

John


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ArtTeam Wiki ReDesign

2007-03-04 Thread John Baer
All,

I've been working in the wiki over the weekend and posted a few
changes. :)

1. The ArtWork wiki page is now the home of the ArtTeam. However, there
is a design flaw I must point out. The original page and many others
that followed were name Artwork. This is not a wiki name.

Ref: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiName

Therefore I named the new ArtTeam page ArtWork which is a wiki name.
If there is agreement I will go through and correct the other pages.

2. Introduction of wiki themes. I have not seen this done before but I
created a method to theme the ArtTeam wiki (and any other) pages. IMO I
believe the new pages look nice. See this page for the details on how it
is done.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArtWork/ArtTeamProjects/WikiDesign

3. Change to the art work and placement of the image. I had the desire
to use many of the elements found in the fedora community (font  color)
in the ArtTeam header. It's not fancy but IMO it's tasteful and the code
is efficient. If you have a vision please submit it.

4. Some cleanup is needed. 

- We have a duplicate in the FC6 specifications.

- The old Artwork page was renamed to ArtworkDeprecated. Probably should
go.

- Dimitris, I created a new page of Fedora Colors (great idea!) using
the ArtTeam theme.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArtWork/FedoraColors

If you like it we'll keep it, otherwise we can go with your original.

5. Goals  Objectives. Assuming we are in agreement, the goals and
objectives are located on their own page and are complete.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArtWork/GoalsObjectives

6. Things that need attention. The ArtTeamProjects page is very rough. 

- Nicu I was thinking a wiki page should be created for the Open
Palette series with links to the appropriate page(s). If you agree do
you want to put something together?

- I will turn my attention to the customizing Fc6 GRUB page.

7. Anything else?

Cheers,

John

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Re: ArtTeam Wiki ReDesign

2007-03-04 Thread Dimitris Glezos
O/H John Baer έγραψε:
 All,
 
 I've been working in the wiki over the weekend and posted a few
 changes. :)

Hey John,

good work. Keep it up!

 1. The ArtWork wiki page is now the home of the ArtTeam. However, there
 is a design flaw I must point out. The original page and many others
 that followed were name Artwork. This is not a wiki name.
 
 Ref: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiName
 
 Therefore I named the new ArtTeam page ArtWork which is a wiki name.
 If there is agreement I will go through and correct the other pages.

It is not necessary that all pages have a wiki name. The difference is that
WikiNames are automatically linked to the page whether other page names need to
be [:Linked:] manually. Since artwork is an english word, it seems more
appropriate to me to keep it non-wiki-word (ie. Artwork).

 2. Introduction of wiki themes. I have not seen this done before but I
 created a method to theme the ArtTeam wiki (and any other) pages. IMO I
 believe the new pages look nice. See this page for the details on how it
 is done.

We've discussed this with Mairin and its great that you went forward and
implemented it already.

My only comment is to minimize the hard-coded HTML and try to put things in CSS
as much as possible. So, the 8 lines of header-code could possibly become:

  ||tableclass=pageHeader artTeam||

And if we do enable the CardMacro plugin we could add custom text the page that
includes it:

  [[Card(PageHeader artTeam, Welcome to the art team)]]

We need to investigate a bit more for this plugin so that we avoid chaos in the
wiki. :/

 3. Change to the art work and placement of the image. I had the desire
 to use many of the elements found in the fedora community (font  color)
 in the ArtTeam header. It's not fancy but IMO it's tasteful and the code
 is efficient. If you have a vision please submit it.

I didn't know we could use from and to in Include statements. Cool!0

 4. Some cleanup is needed. 
 
 - We have a duplicate in the FC6 specifications.
 
 - The old Artwork page was renamed to ArtworkDeprecated. Probably should
 go.

When we move pages, its better to keep the old one and add a #REDIRECT line in
them, like this:

  #REDIRECT Artwork

 - Dimitris, I created a new page of Fedora Colors (great idea!) using
 the ArtTeam theme.
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArtWork/FedoraColors
 
 If you like it we'll keep it, otherwise we can go with your original.

Of course I like it. Can you please add a redirect to the new one?

-d


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