Re: Re: Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-06 Thread duffy
> Thanks for all of your comments!
>
> On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> So the colors are fine, but I would
>> replace the image with one of the wallpaper pngs because it looks like
>> it's one of the older, uncleaned versions.
>
> I got the source from this link:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar
>
> The final version should be the one of Image:
> Solar_gimp_1900x1200.xcf.bz2, right? I will update my design using
> this one.

That is the old one, so you shouldn't use it. Please don't use any images
from round 2, only round 3.

Does anyone know how we can get that old source image deleted so it
doesn't trip anyone else up?

Try one of these, if you really need the XCF (I'm not sure why you can't
just use the PNGs though):

http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b9/Solar_dual-std.xcf.bz2

http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2c/Solar_2048x1536.xcf.bz2

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Re: Re: Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-06 Thread Jarod Wen

Thanks for all of your comments!

On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So the colors are fine, but I would
replace the image with one of the wallpaper pngs because it looks like
it's one of the older, uncleaned versions.


I got the source from this link:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar

The final version should be the one of Image:  
Solar_gimp_1900x1200.xcf.bz2, right? I will update my design using  
this one.


I will update the fonts to be MgOpen Modata. I will try another  
machine to see whether there is something wrong with my machine.


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Re: Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-06 Thread duffy
Hi Jarod!

> On Oct 6, 2008, at 6:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:00 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
>>> On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
 http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html
>>>
>>> Otherwise, back to the art... very nice! For the CD cases it seems
>>> like
>>> the "sun" isn't the same as the DVD case or the rest of the
>>> artwork...
>>> could you check that?
>>
>> It's the same base XCF, but some of the layers have been hidden,
>> removing some of the surface turbulence and most of the foreground
>> flares. If we're going with the top image though, I'd like to see
>> those
>> layers restored.

> It is really the problem for me to merge the same planet from DVD to
> CD, since I didn't find a better way to copy several layers together
> to another Gimp file(I am a newbie there...), so finally I made a png
> for the planet image and combine it into the CD files. I am sure that
> the conversion from layers to png has eaten something... Anyone gives
> me some ideas on that?

>From the aurora in the image it looks like you may be using an older
version of the XCF. I would strongly recommend just using one of the png
wallpapers as the base image to use right now as you can be assured those
are okay to use.

>> Yeah, MgOpen Modata for the release number (10), disk title (x86
>> LiveCD)
>> and for the url (fp.o). But the copyright text *may* be better (has to
>> be tested) to stay with a plain font (Liberation, DejaVu) for
>> readability.
>
>
> In fact I used the MgOpen Moderna, since when I tried to use MgOpen
> Modata, I found that the effects on my works showed a little
> difference from the ones in the sleeves of Fedora 9, where MgOpen
> Modata was used. I think I can changed it soon.

It definitely doesn't look like MgOpen Modata, I'm not sure what's gone
wrong for you.

>> That is a real concern when printing on the real CD on large scale,
>> but for inkjet sleeve printing (do yourself at home) it is not a problem.
>
> Ye guys, you are right. I didn't consider this problem. I will try to
> decrease the number of colors.

Actually you don't have to worry about this for the sleeves. It is only
the disc designs themselves that are color-limited because of the screen
printing process used to print them. So the colors are fine, but I would
replace the image with one of the wallpaper pngs because it looks like
it's one of the older, uncleaned versions.

~m

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Re: Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-06 Thread Jarod Wen


On Oct 6, 2008, at 6:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:00 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:

On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:

http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html


Otherwise, back to the art... very nice! For the CD cases it seems  
like
the "sun" isn't the same as the DVD case or the rest of the  
artwork...

could you check that?


It's the same base XCF, but some of the layers have been hidden,
removing some of the surface turbulence and most of the foreground
flares. If we're going with the top image though, I'd like to see  
those

layers restored.



It is really the problem for me to merge the same planet from DVD to  
CD, since I didn't find a better way to copy several layers together  
to another Gimp file(I am a newbie there...), so finally I made a png  
for the planet image and combine it into the CD files. I am sure that  
the conversion from layers to png has eaten something... Anyone gives  
me some ideas on that?



Ian Weller wrote:


You might want to use the MgOpen Modata font, as that's the font that
Fedora uses for pretty much everything in their designs. You can  
get it

installed by running
 yum install mgopen-fonts


Yeah, MgOpen Modata for the release number (10), disk title (x86  
LiveCD)

and for the url (fp.o). But the copyright text *may* be better (has to
be tested) to stay with a plain font (Liberation, DejaVu) for  
readability.



In fact I used the MgOpen Moderna, since when I tried to use MgOpen  
Modata, I found that the effects on my works showed a little  
difference from the ones in the sleeves of Fedora 9, where MgOpen  
Modata was used. I think I can changed it soon.




Rahul Sundaram wrote:


IIRC, the number of different colors shoots up the printing cost of  
the
material drastically. Shades of the same color is ok. You might  
want to

keep that in mind.


That is a real concern when printing on the real CD on large scale,  
but

for inkjet sleeve printing (do yourself at home) it is not a problem.


Ye guys, you are right. I didn't consider this problem. I will try to  
decrease the number of colors.


Thanks for all of your comments!

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Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html

Other people are better suited to critique and adjust the design,
fonts, and so forth.  Some things we should also do with the jackets:

* For Live CD, include a small bit of information about how to use the
  media: "This disc contains a complete bootable Fedora environment.
  To use it, make sure your computer supports booting from its CD or
  DVD drive.  Then insert the disc, turn the computer's power on, and
  follow the prompts.  If you enjoy this Fedora environment, you can
  copy it to your computer using the desktop 'Install to Hard Disk'
  icon.  For further assistance, visit help.fedoraproject.org."

* Make sure that the printing of the design is going to be a
  reasonable cost for the Ambassadors bulk-ordering the discs.  If
  there are any sort of color restrictions, we should get those
  figured out up-front.  I believe the NA Ambassadors were working
  with Karlie Robinson on duplication.  I'm not sure whether they are
  getting sleeves made by the same vendor.


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Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-06 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 21:00 -0500, Ian Weller wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
> > http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html
> 
> Otherwise, back to the art... very nice! For the CD cases it seems like
> the "sun" isn't the same as the DVD case or the rest of the artwork...
> could you check that?

It's the same base XCF, but some of the layers have been hidden,
removing some of the surface turbulence and most of the foreground
flares. If we're going with the top image though, I'd like to see those
layers restored.

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Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-06 Thread Nicu Buculei

Ian Weller wrote:


You might want to use the MgOpen Modata font, as that's the font that
Fedora uses for pretty much everything in their designs. You can get it
installed by running
  yum install mgopen-fonts


Yeah, MgOpen Modata for the release number (10), disk title (x86 LiveCD) 
and for the url (fp.o). But the copyright text *may* be better (has to 
be tested) to stay with a plain font (Liberation, DejaVu) for readability.


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Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-06 Thread Nicu Buculei

Rahul Sundaram wrote:


IIRC, the number of different colors shoots up the printing cost of the 
material drastically. Shades of the same color is ok. You might want to 
keep that in mind.


That is a real concern when printing on the real CD on large scale, but 
for inkjet sleeve printing (do yourself at home) it is not a problem.


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Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Jarod Wen wrote:

Hi all,

I have just finished my first attempt: two candidates for the live cd, 
one for the install dvd. 

The style of the design follows the previous version used in Fedora 9. 
Most of the sources used in these design are from the source of Solar 
theme of Fedora 10. Since I am a newbie in design using Gimp and 
Inkscape, there are lots of learner's attempts... Please don't hesitate 
to give me any suggestions to improve the source files.


You can find them from the link:

http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html


IIRC, the number of different colors shoots up the printing cost of the 
material drastically. Shades of the same color is ok. You might want to 
keep that in mind.


Rahul

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Re: Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-05 Thread Ian Weller
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 09:46:09PM -0400, Jarod Wen wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have just finished my first attempt: two candidates for the live cd,  
> one for the install dvd.
>
> The style of the design follows the previous version used in Fedora 9.  
> Most of the sources used in these design are from the source of Solar  
> theme of Fedora 10. Since I am a newbie in design using Gimp and  
> Inkscape, there are lots of learner's attempts... Please don't hesitate 
> to give me any suggestions to improve the source files.
>
> You can find them from the link:
>
> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html
>
> Sorry for using my own website since I am not familiar with the process 
> on how to upload these files onto our wiki. And of course, I think they 
> are still drafts. I need your advice to improve them.
>
If you've signed the CLA and are in one other group on FAS, you can use
your fedorapeople.org space. See
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/fedorapeople.org
for more information.

To upload files using the wiki, use the "Upload file" link in the
toolbox in the sidebar. You have to be logged in to do this.

Otherwise, back to the art... very nice! For the CD cases it seems like
the "sun" isn't the same as the DVD case or the rest of the artwork...
could you check that?

I personally prefer the top one as opposed to the middle one for the CD
case.

You might want to use the MgOpen Modata font, as that's the font that
Fedora uses for pretty much everything in their designs. You can get it
installed by running
  yum install mgopen-fonts

Thanks for including sources, too! :D  Hope this all helps.

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Candidates for Fedora 10 CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-05 Thread Jarod Wen

Hi all,

I have just finished my first attempt: two candidates for the live cd,  
one for the install dvd.


The style of the design follows the previous version used in Fedora 9.  
Most of the sources used in these design are from the source of Solar  
theme of Fedora 10. Since I am a newbie in design using Gimp and  
Inkscape, there are lots of learner's attempts... Please don't  
hesitate to give me any suggestions to improve the source files.


You can find them from the link:

http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jarodwen/Fedora/10/sleeve_arts/sleeve_arts.html

Sorry for using my own website since I am not familiar with the  
process on how to upload these files onto our wiki. And of course, I  
think they are still drafts. I need your advice to improve them.


Thanks!

On Sep 30, 2008, at 9:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sep 30, 2008, at 4:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Cool. We have a standard design we use for the disc so all that is
needed is the sleeve design. We need one for live media and one for
DVD.



Sure. It is very useful that I have got the source files of ones for
F9. It really a good starting point for me to do some work based on
them.


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