Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-28 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Máirí­n Duffy wrote:
>
> I'm not really sure the best place to put them, I am not involved in
> Echo development, so if you like them maybe put them where you think
> they might belong.
>
> ~m
>
Done. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-26 Thread Máirí­n Duffy

Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:

Máirí­n Duffy wrote:

Yeh, it seems like this is a big problem for the smaller-sized Echo
icons.

I recommend everyone working on Echo read this:

http://www.firewheeldesign.com/sparkplug/2006/April/icon_design_bitmap_vs_vector.php


http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/02/21/icon_design/
t


Would you mind to post these links on the wiki, please?


I'm not really sure the best place to put them, I am not involved in 
Echo development, so if you like them maybe put them where you think 
they might belong.


~m

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-26 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Máirí­n Duffy wrote:
>
> Yeh, it seems like this is a big problem for the smaller-sized Echo
> icons.
>
> I recommend everyone working on Echo read this:
>
> http://www.firewheeldesign.com/sparkplug/2006/April/icon_design_bitmap_vs_vector.php
>
>
> http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/02/21/icon_design/
> t
>
Would you mind to post these links on the wiki, please?

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-26 Thread Mark

interesting articles.


2007/3/26, Máirí­n Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Ben Arnold wrote:
> One thing you could do if you're not that great is scale down anny
> icons that are (at the moment) the largest size. The 16 and 24 sizes
> are very important and there's already an icon there to use! I've
> found it doesn't take that long to do, either, just remember to make
> it clear and recognisable at the smaller sizes.

Yeh, it seems like this is a big problem for the smaller-sized Echo icons.

I recommend everyone working on Echo read this:


http://www.firewheeldesign.com/sparkplug/2006/April/icon_design_bitmap_vs_vector.php

While the article shows the problems of scaling up from a small vector
icon, the issue a lot of the Echo icons haxve is that they are scaled
down from a large vector icon, without alignment to the pixel grid so
the details come out muddy. This talks a little bit about the pixel grid
if you are curious:

http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/02/21/icon_design/

I also recommend if you want fuller coverage for Fedora 7, work on the
smaller icons first, then the large sizes. The larger size icons are far
less likely to ever appear anywhere in the desktop, but the smaller
sizes are much more likely to appear thus if they are not finished they
will make the set look more incomplete.

~m

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-26 Thread Máirí­n Duffy

Ben Arnold wrote:

One thing you could do if you're not that great is scale down anny
icons that are (at the moment) the largest size. The 16 and 24 sizes
are very important and there's already an icon there to use! I've
found it doesn't take that long to do, either, just remember to make
it clear and recognisable at the smaller sizes.


Yeh, it seems like this is a big problem for the smaller-sized Echo icons.

I recommend everyone working on Echo read this:

http://www.firewheeldesign.com/sparkplug/2006/April/icon_design_bitmap_vs_vector.php

While the article shows the problems of scaling up from a small vector 
icon, the issue a lot of the Echo icons haxve is that they are scaled 
down from a large vector icon, without alignment to the pixel grid so 
the details come out muddy. This talks a little bit about the pixel grid 
if you are curious:


http://mezzoblue.com/archives/2007/02/21/icon_design/

I also recommend if you want fuller coverage for Fedora 7, work on the 
smaller icons first, then the large sizes. The larger size icons are far 
less likely to ever appear anywhere in the desktop, but the smaller 
sizes are much more likely to appear thus if they are not finished they 
will make the set look more incomplete.


~m

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-26 Thread Ben Arnold

I think there is a basic set of icons that are more important than others.
This means that the whole set does not necessarily need to be finished
in order for it to be default.


On 25/03/07, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

i wish i could halp with the icons, but i`m not that good in making
icons/logo`s.


One thing you could do if you're not that great is scale down anny
icons that are (at the moment) the largest size. The 16 and 24 sizes
are very important and there's already an icon there to use! I've
found it doesn't take that long to do, either, just remember to make
it clear and recognisable at the smaller sizes.

On 26/03/07, Luya Tshimbalanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks to both Martin Sourada and seawolf efforts, it appears echo will be ready
for Fedora 7.


We've got a good team of people working on it now; we live in hope :)

./b

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-26 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Quoting Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> so i`m wondering.. will the echo icon theme make it for Fedora Core 7 final?
> i wish i could halp with the icons, but i`m not that good in making
> icons/logo`s.
>
> so.. hows the progress?
>
> Thanx.
> Mark.
>

As pointed out, final release will be on May. I have set a wiki page of todo
list for the main icons. I am currently working on both shutdown and bluetooth
icons. preference-theme icons turned out to be challenging as I attempt to work
on mark representing different culture as suggested.

Thanks to both Martin Sourada and seawolf efforts, it appears echo will be ready
for Fedora 7.


-- 
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Fedora Project contributor
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Mark wrote:

yea still far away, but that time is over faster than you realize ;)
will fedora be delayed when the echo theme isn`t finished? or will 
fedora in that case ship with the fc6 theme and have a full eche theme 
for FC8?


Echo is not a release blocker. Release blockers are described in 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7. If the theme isnt in a 
suitable state for default you will get in the next release.


Rahul

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-25 Thread Mark

yea still far away, but that time is over faster than you realize ;)
will fedora be delayed when the echo theme isn`t finished? or will fedora in
that case ship with the fc6 theme and have a full eche theme for FC8?

2007/3/26, Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On 2007-03-25, Mark said:

> so i`m wondering.. will the echo icon theme make it for Fedora Core
> 7 final?  i wish i could halp with the icons, but i`m not that good
> in making icons/logo`s.

That's the plan. The development can catch up since the release date
is still far away.

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Re: How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-25 Thread Leo
On 2007-03-25, Mark said:

> so i`m wondering.. will the echo icon theme make it for Fedora Core
> 7 final?  i wish i could halp with the icons, but i`m not that good
> in making icons/logo`s.

That's the plan. The development can catch up since the release date
is still far away.

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How is the Echo Icon development going on?

2007-03-25 Thread Mark

Hey,

i`m currently using Fedora Rawhile with the latest packages, but not all
icons are updated yet (like the internet and mail icon... just to name the
few you see as soon as gnome is started).

so i`m wondering.. will the echo icon theme make it for Fedora Core 7 final?
i wish i could halp with the icons, but i`m not that good in making
icons/logo`s.

so.. hows the progress?

Thanx.
Mark.
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