Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Dnia 23 X 2007 15:26:45, Joachim Frieben napisał(a): I wonder if nobody actually noticed how different the style of rhgb splash screen and login panel are. One wouldn't think that they are supposed to be part of the same artwork. Actually, the login panel falls way behind the rhgb splash screen in terms of clarity and polish. It looks quite overloaded to me, essentially like in F7 for which I had posted a similar comment. The outer frame of the login panel gives it a baroque look. A panel without border but drop shadows instead simply patterned after the rhgb splash screen would not only make the artwork more homogeneous but also improve its visual quality considerably. Maybe it's not to late yet to improve a bit on this .. -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Also, I think transparency in idea of polish isn't so good idea. Aurora effects are very good. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Joachim Frieben wrote: I wonder if nobody actually noticed how different the style of rhgb splash screen and login panel are. In fact both those graphics were created with feed-back right on this list. One wouldn't think that they are supposed to be part of the same artwork. Actually, the login panel falls way behind the rhgb splash screen in terms of clarity and polish. It looks quite overloaded to me, essentially like in F7 for which I had posted a similar comment. The outer frame of the login panel gives it a baroque look. A panel without border but drop shadows instead simply patterned after the rhgb splash screen would not only make the artwork more homogeneous but also improve its visual quality considerably. Maybe it's not to late yet to improve a bit on this .. Some various designs with different borders were posted and the final result was an evolution based on those designs. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
I wonder if nobody actually noticed how different the style of rhgb splash screen and login panel are. One wouldn't think that they are supposed to be part of the same artwork. Actually, the login panel falls way behind the rhgb splash screen in terms of clarity and polish. It looks quite overloaded to me, essentially like in F7 for which I had posted a similar comment. The outer frame of the login panel gives it a baroque look. A panel without border but drop shadows instead simply patterned after the rhgb splash screen would not only make the artwork more homogeneous but also improve its visual quality considerably. Maybe it's not to late yet to improve a bit on this .. -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Máirín Duffy wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: Here is a screenshot that shows some problems with the user list. If you have enough users to make the list scroll, you notice that a) the theming of the scrollbar is not ideal and b) the last item leaks out. It actually overlaps the wrong password messaged that may appear below the list. Thanks Matthias and everyone else for the quick and detailed feedback! I've got a new version that hopefully is better: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/infinity/FedoraInfinityGDM.2.tar.gz The amount of options seems to be a bit high and makes the interface appear cluttered and the square big borders appears rigid. I like Steven's mockup at http://actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/fedora/gdm-infinity5.png much better. Thinner borders and the number of options at three seems just right. Fonts colors are less contrasting. The shadows are highlighted better. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Máirín Duffy wrote: Which ones are you seeing? Are you just looking at the screenshot I sent? Because in actual use the 'disconnect' button doesn't actually appear. Are there other buttons you think should go? They don't need to go but a couple of them could be put under a menu if there are more than two or three. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:57 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: I attached a screenshot of a full user list too for reference. I can't think of any other issues that might crop up - it seems all of the text has sufficient space for expansion to account for translations and such. If you see anything else do let me know. Looks pretty good to me; I've put it in rawhide now, we can still apply further tweaks. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Máirín Duffy wrote: Okay, I have a working GDM theme now, it mostly uses the work done by Tobias Oelgarte for Avio. If you'd like to try it out, you can add the It seems easier to edit compared with Flying High, where de dialog was composed from a lot of blocks. Would it be better to use DejaVu fonts instead of Bitstream Vera used now? following file to the System Administration Login Window theme area: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/infinity/FedoraInfinityGDM.tar.gz Give it a try and let me know if you see any issues. Well done! But I caught you! :D The preview (screenshot.png) is doctored, it does not show the real background (but I believe it is the hidden Borealis layer for the source SVG) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Okay, I have a working GDM theme now, it mostly uses the work done by Tobias Oelgarte for Avio. If you'd like to try it out, you can add the following file to the System Administration Login Window theme area: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/infinity/FedoraInfinityGDM.tar.gz Give it a try and let me know if you see any issues. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
I don't really see any issues with my 1 user, but Matthias has a better case overall. If I knew how to screenshot at the login stage, i'd do so and post it. On 9/16/07, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I have a working GDM theme now, it mostly uses the work done by Tobias Oelgarte for Avio. If you'd like to try it out, you can add the following file to the System Administration Login Window theme area: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/infinity/FedoraInfinityGDM.tar.gz Give it a try and let me know if you see any issues. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://www.michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Le mardi 28 août 2007 à 18:49 +0200, Martin Sourada a écrit : On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:42 +0200, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : I agree it looks big. Don't know whether it is a problem, however. Also there is lot of empty space in your mockup (due to smaller icons). But I like the font colours you've chosen. It looks better than pure white. How about hiding the username and only leave name? Luya Good point. Seems reasonable to me. I would then use the bold font, now used for username, for name and the italic font, now used for name, for additional info (like that that user is already logged in). Are we 100% sure very user on the system will have a meaningful name ? username will always exist -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
An idea (posted in another thread as well) wouldn't it be better to use the rhgb image in GDM as well? it will give fedora a nice uniform look. A few suggestions for this infinity GDM mockup: 1. make the black shadow smaller 2. add fading lines between users (?) 3. add a glow in the users background part (that looks to boring now) or add some of those little stars that are in the background (upper right corner) as well ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 14:33 +0200, Mark wrote: An idea (posted in another thread as well) wouldn't it be better to use the rhgb image in GDM as well? it will give fedora a nice uniform look. Uniform look does not necessarily mean that you will have everything same... The rhgb image IMHO would not work for GDM and vice versa. A few suggestions for this infinity GDM mockup: 1. make the black shadow smaller The shadow could be more transparent... But actually its not black ;-) 2. add fading lines between users (?) Now I don't think I understand what you exactly mean by that. 3. add a glow in the users background part (that looks to boring now) Sometimes simple look is better than glows everywhere, but it can maybe work there, depends on how it is done... or add some of those little stars that are in the background (upper right corner) as well IMHO not. That's too distracting. Feel free to add your mockups, it's actually easy to edit them in inkscape. All sources are freely available, the svgs for the mockups are in the same folder [1] as pngs, the icons used are from the gnome icon set (fedora uses mist as default which inherits these from gnome; you'll have it probably installed) the background is from Infinity Round3 final page [2] and the pictures in the facebrowser are in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces. Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/ [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity/Round3Final signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
2. add fading lines between users (?) Is this technically possible? I ask this because I don't know the limits of GDM, otherwise a lot of possibilities can be imagined, like having a different background for odd and even rows (like 66% transparent white and respectively 75% transparent white) Sorry, i said it wrong. i meant a plain line which ends with some transparency.. kinda hard to explain i mean something like this: http://www.itgsltd.com/img/masthead_fading_line3.gif or http://www.quantumsys.net/qis2006/images/fading_line_v3.jpg Nothing coding wise ^_^ Mark. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Infinity GDM mockup
Hi, I created a gmd mockups for the infinity theme. It's based on the Avio style you talked about, but it has fewer buttons and it is coloured according to infinity wallpaper. I created widescreen mockup, but on 4:3 it will be similar. Any comments? Oh, and the used icons are from Gnome theme (as Mist derives those). Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 14:30 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I created a gmd mockups for the infinity theme. It's based on the Avio style you talked about, but it has fewer buttons and it is coloured according to infinity wallpaper. I created widescreen mockup, but on 4:3 it will be similar. Any comments? Oh, and the used icons are from Gnome theme (as Mist derives those). - I like better the version with the user/password box at the top, I find it easier to find; I too. - I would use a smaller font for date/time and maybe (just maybe) move it to the bottom, is not that important as info; Hm... it could be smaller, but I would let it be at the top. - the drop shadow could be a little more discrete, not so large and definitely it should not be visible under the transparent area; Yes, however inkscape's blur isn't fit for such think (or I at least I don't know, how to do the blur only on out-looking side of an object). Can be removed later e.g. in gimp. And yes, it would probably be better smaller. - how about little (but very little) transparency for the central (dark blue) area? Interesting idea :) - maybe the white area should not be so white (I didn't like the big area in Avio either) Hm... another transparency? ;-) I think I'll play a bit in Inkscape with your SVG and post here if I like what I get Looking forward to it. Note that the background is however imported png, so it will probably not show when you open the svg. References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/ Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I created a gmd mockups for the infinity theme. It's based on the Avio style you talked about, but it has fewer buttons and it is coloured according to infinity wallpaper. I created widescreen mockup, but on 4:3 it will be similar. Any comments? Oh, and the used icons are from Gnome theme (as Mist derives those). - I like better the version with the user/password box at the top, I find it easier to find; - I would use a smaller font for date/time and maybe (just maybe) move it to the bottom, is not that important as info; - the drop shadow could be a little more discrete, not so large and definitely it should not be visible under the transparent area; - how about little (but very little) transparency for the central (dark blue) area? - maybe the white area should not be so white (I didn't like the big area in Avio either) I think I'll play a bit in Inkscape with your SVG and post here if I like what I get References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 15:13 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 14:30 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: - the drop shadow could be a little more discrete, not so large and definitely it should not be visible under the transparent area; Yes, however inkscape's blur isn't fit for such think (or I at least I don't know, how to do the blur only on out-looking side of an object). Can be removed later e.g. in gimp. And yes, it would probably be better smaller. Use a mask. But instead of a solid white rectangle, use a big white rectangle with a rectangle cut from its middle, covering only the outside of the shadow... I was not very clear, look at my SVG Thanks for the tip :) I think I'll play a bit in Inkscape with your SVG and post here if I like what I get Here, bot PNG and SVG http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/gdm/ (the svg does not have the raster background) Looking forward to it. Note that the background is however imported png, so it will probably not show when you open the svg. Sure, I know how to deal with that. BTW, you know it is possible to embed the PNG inside the SVG? (but it will be base64 encoded, so the file size is very large) I didn't know that. But considering the size, it is probably better not having it embed. I like the bright borders you've chosen, but the buttons I prefer when they are in column. I played meanwhile with my version and put the result again on the same place [1]. Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Martin Sourada wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 14:30 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: - the drop shadow could be a little more discrete, not so large and definitely it should not be visible under the transparent area; Yes, however inkscape's blur isn't fit for such think (or I at least I don't know, how to do the blur only on out-looking side of an object). Can be removed later e.g. in gimp. And yes, it would probably be better smaller. Use a mask. But instead of a solid white rectangle, use a big white rectangle with a rectangle cut from its middle, covering only the outside of the shadow... I was not very clear, look at my SVG I think I'll play a bit in Inkscape with your SVG and post here if I like what I get Here, bot PNG and SVG http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/gdm/ (the svg does not have the raster background) Looking forward to it. Note that the background is however imported png, so it will probably not show when you open the svg. Sure, I know how to deal with that. BTW, you know it is possible to embed the PNG inside the SVG? (but it will be base64 encoded, so the file size is very large) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 15:38 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: I like in your second take the thiner borders. Yeah, I noticed they seems too thick, so I made them thinner. About my horizontal layout for buttons I have my own doubts (it work for English but in another languages the text may not fit the width) so maybe your vertical layout is better. I made a third take. The most notable changes are usage of the mask in inkscape (but, even though I managed that it looks as desired, I am still quite unsure about how to use the mask...) and white borders. Again on the same place [1]. Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
Martin Sourada wrote: I like the bright borders you've chosen, but the buttons I prefer when they are in column. I played meanwhile with my version and put the result again on the same place [1]. I like in your second take the thiner borders. About my horizontal layout for buttons I have my own doubts (it work for English but in another languages the text may not fit the width) so maybe your vertical layout is better. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
I issued a version I am content enough with [1,2]. It again is inspired by Nicu's changes (darker browser background, white text in the face browser) and has still smaller text for date and button labels. Note again, that the svg[2] version does not have embed the raster images - background, and user images in the facebrowser - so they will not be seen in it. Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/gdm-infinity4b.png [2] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/gdm-infinity4b.svg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
This is looking good. I like the more subtle style and colors vs. the Fedora 7 theme. I do find that this login screen generally looks big. The fonts are large, the icons are very large, and the border around the window is huge. I wonder if the screen might be improved by reducing the size of some of the elements and corner radii. I've done a *very rough* mockup that just takes the current version and shrinks down some of the elements, and tones down some of the shades a bit: http://actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/fedora/gdm-infinity5.png Originals are in here: http://actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/fedora/ Cheers, Steven Garrity Martin Sourada wrote: I issued a version I am content enough with [1,2]. It again is inspired by Nicu's changes (darker browser background, white text in the face browser) and has still smaller text for date and button labels. Note again, that the svg[2] version does not have embed the raster images - background, and user images in the facebrowser - so they will not be seen in it. Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/gdm-infinity4b.png [2] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/gdm-infinity4b.svg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 16:53 +0200, Steven Garrity wrote: This is looking good. I like the more subtle style and colors vs. the Fedora 7 theme. I do find that this login screen generally looks big. The fonts are large, the icons are very large, and the border around the window is huge. I wonder if the screen might be improved by reducing the size of some of the elements and corner radii. I've done a *very rough* mockup that just takes the current version and shrinks down some of the elements, and tones down some of the shades a bit: http://actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/fedora/gdm-infinity5.png Originals are in here: http://actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/fedora/ Cheers, Steven Garrity I somehow like the thick borders more, it adds some space to it, but I agree it looks big. Don't know whether it is a problem, however. Also there is lot of empty space in your mockup (due to smaller icons). But I like the font colours you've chosen. It looks better than pure white. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:42 +0200, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : I agree it looks big. Don't know whether it is a problem, however. Also there is lot of empty space in your mockup (due to smaller icons). But I like the font colours you've chosen. It looks better than pure white. How about hiding the username and only leave name? Luya Good point. Seems reasonable to me. I would then use the bold font, now used for username, for name and the italic font, now used for name, for additional info (like that that user is already logged in). Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:54 +0200, Rahul Sundaram wrote: The smaller variant from Steven Garrity looks much more elegant than having everything look so huge. Rahul That's now three to one :) Seems I am the only one who likes the 'big' version more... Anyway, the final gdm theme will be done by Mo and she seems to like the thinner borders more (about icons we didn't talked). I am now content with my mockups [1] and everyone who thinks otherwise is welcome to tweak them to their liking. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/gdm-infinity4c.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Infinity GDM mockup
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 19:14 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:54 +0200, Rahul Sundaram wrote: The smaller variant from Steven Garrity looks much more elegant than having everything look so huge. Rahul That's now three to one :) Seems I am the only one who likes the 'big' version more... Anyway, the final gdm theme will be done by Mo and she seems to like the thinner borders more (about icons we didn't talked). I am now content with my mockups [1] and everyone who thinks otherwise is welcome to tweak them to their liking. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/gdm-infinity4c.png Well, never say never... As I looked at it transformed to smaller sizes in eog, I came to conclusion, that if I make the roundness of corners smaller, I could make the border thinner and would not loose anything I liked on the old mockups. Actually, I think it even looks better now. Take a look at my next (and probably the last) try [1]. The icons are 32x32 and two of them actually pngs, so in the svg, as they are not embed, will most likely not show (but can AFAIK, if you have gnome icon theme installed, I took them directly from there). Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/gdm/gdm-infinity6.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
