New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut)

2007-04-04 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Just made a quick icons for menu editor and package manager based on
current Echo version. In case of 24x24, they will be retouched with
Gimp. More icons will come.

Luya




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Re: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut)

2007-04-04 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Mer 4 avril 2007 08:45, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :
 Just made a quick icons for menu editor and package manager based on
 current Echo version. In case of 24x24, they will be retouched with
 Gimp. More icons will come.

Some remarks (I know I'm a pest):

1. I don't like the menu editor icon at all. If you don't know it's a menu
editor, you won't guess : the menu part is difficult to distinguish, and
the pen is associated with writing text, not composing menus. I'd rework
the menu bit and remove the pen. Probably taking something like the
classic add line in a table icon as base. Right now at fist sight it
looks like yet another office/text editor icon.

Generally speaking the isometric perspective echo chose makes this kind of
icon difficult to create, since it reduces the effective space and slants
common symbols. It works with 3d objects but not with 2d objects and
pictograms

(Note: I'm typically using = 100 dpi screens, and they'll only get more
common now Vista lifted the old 96dpi windows resolution clamping. That
means I may see have somewhat smaller pixels than you, with smaller icons)

2. I'd remove the CD  gray box on the second one (no idea if it's
supposed to be a PC tower case or a CD+manual box). The main
installation/update method is network nowadays, and almost no one gets his
Linux software in cardboard boxes. Maybe a pile of greyed-out closed
packages with one colorful open package in the foreground would work
better.

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Re: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut)

2007-04-04 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
 Le Mer 4 avril 2007 08:45, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :
   
 Just made a quick icons for menu editor and package manager based on
 current Echo version. In case of 24x24, they will be retouched with
 Gimp. More icons will come.
 

 Some remarks (I know I'm a pest):
   
Better get a remarks so it will be possible to track many issues as
possible and fix as we can =)

 1. I don't like the menu editor icon at all. If you don't know it's a menu
 editor, you won't guess : the menu part is difficult to distinguish, and
 the pen is associated with writing text, not composing menus. I'd rework
 the menu bit and remove the pen. Probably taking something like the
 classic add line in a table icon as base. Right now at fist sight it
 looks like yet another office/text editor icon.
   
It was an attempt to reproduce the current menu-editor icons available
on FC6.
I will rework it.

 Generally speaking the isometric perspective echo chose makes this kind of
 icon difficult to create, since it reduces the effective space and slants
 common symbols. It works with 3d objects but not with 2d objects and
 pictograms

 (Note: I'm typically using = 100 dpi screens, and they'll only get more
 common now Vista lifted the old 96dpi windows resolution clamping. That
 means I may see have somewhat smaller pixels than you, with smaller icons)

   
Ah ah. you use Microsoft Vista reference. =-O
I will take account about the dpi in the future.


 2. I'd remove the CD  gray box on the second one (no idea if it's
 supposed to be a PC tower case or a CD+manual box). The main
 installation/update method is network nowadays, and almost no one gets his
 Linux software in cardboard boxes. Maybe a pile of greyed-out closed
 packages with one colorful open package in the foreground would work
 better.

   
I am considering using a Globe instead of CD. And yes, the grey box is a
PC tower. Be in mind it is just a draft.


Luya
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Re: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut)

2007-04-04 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Mer 4 avril 2007 10:19, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :

 Ah ah. you use Microsoft Vista reference. =-O

Nope :) I personnaly don't care about Vista at all.

However the windows 96dpi limitation hack has been ported by X  GNOME
people to the Linux desktop a few years ago, and they're resisted fixing
it so far. Arguing that as long as Windows only knew 96dpi higher DPI
hardware would't appear in numbers on the market.

Now MS fixed their bug there's no excuse left to refuse considering
screens with higher pixel density (OLPC is one)

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Re: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut)

2007-04-04 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Uno Engborg wrote:
 The problem is that the menu part looks too much like a document (and
 yes,
 the pen adds to that impression).  A add row in table like icon
 could work.
 Another way could be to show some part of the menu bar, so that it became
 distinguishable from a document.

Good idea. Here is an attempt.

Luya


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Re: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut)

2007-04-04 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 04 avril 2007 à 12:14 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :
 Uno Engborg wrote:
  The problem is that the menu part looks too much like a document (and
  yes,
  the pen adds to that impression).  A add row in table like icon
  could work.
  Another way could be to show some part of the menu bar, so that it became
  distinguishable from a document.
 
 Good idea. Here is an attempt.

Much better. Maybe you can remove the blue tinge from the background
menu slab? Echo is more than a little heavy on blue already. I suspect
when the theme is complete reviewers will ask to re-paint some icons to
avoid a monochrome effect

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