Re: Poster revision
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 08:57 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet and needs some cleanup: Yeah, I bet a lot of people would start screaming about that US flag, it really has to be replace until the final version (its OK in the sketch). I think the idea would be to replace it with a shockingly blue Fedora flag, right? http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg That's not bad at all, maybe move the boat a bit to the left? I agree about photomanip not being the best way to go, for printing posters (A3?) we would need hi-res images, more than is available usually on flickr (or maybe go for hunting photos with our own cameras? - not that easy) Especially steamboats! But this is a *really* cool image. :-) -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:25 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize great potential and/or freedom, I think) The steamboat is fading into the sunset, just like a movie ending this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship And the steamboat is flying a Fedora flag. In fact, all of the tableaux feature a Fedora logo somehow -- and that's the only occurrence of blue in any of the pictures. The rest of each picture is all that steampunky sepia tone. Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet and needs some cleanup: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg Source images: Delta Queen by Velo Steve, CC-Attribution http://flickr.com/photos/juniorvelo/482160982/ Early Light on the River by FreeWine, CC-Attribution http://flickr.com/photos/freewine/2432647532/sizes/l/ Cracked Concrete by Mairin, CC-Attribution http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2609643770/sizes/o/in/set-72157605804091881/ The gimp XCF source is in the same directory... ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet and needs some cleanup: Yeah, I bet a lot of people would start screaming about that US flag, it really has to be replace until the final version (its OK in the sketch). http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg That's not bad at all, maybe move the boat a bit to the left? I agree about photomanip not being the best way to go, for printing posters (A3?) we would need hi-res images, more than is available usually on flickr (or maybe go for hunting photos with our own cameras? - not that easy) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
Máirín Duffy wrote: I'm wondering if this could be tied into the F10 artwork theme I've been sketching up some steampunky doodles lately. Maybe I'll do some along these lines. Here are some steampunk-inspired ideas: Those ideas are just awesome, I like a lot the way you are thinking. However, not sure how practical: they are the opposite of the I/F/V posters, which aimed for simplicity. I for one have doubts I could draw myself such images. But you are better at drawing than me. FREEDOM === - person strapped to a Wright-Brothers-esque flying contraption (flight is usually associated with freedom... or maybe a steampunky blimp/zeppelin ride with a crowd of steampunky people together waving on the balcony, you also get the community aspect there) I think I like better the blimp take, only careful to not be to much like the F7 balloon (and not too much like the mozillaZine blimp). - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize great potential and/or freedom, I think) The steamboat is fading into the sunset, just like a movie ending this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship FRIENDS === - steampunky sailors toasting on deck, their pewter mugs of grog clanking together I like the sailors take and we can say Fedora is Free as in Freedom but also free as in free grog. - maybe a silly idea, but a group of victorian/steampunky clad women in a circle, each knitting a piece together. Maybe what they're knitting is a Fedora flag? And nobody can accuse us that Fedora is a community unfriendly for women :p - Or maybe a few steampunky people sitting at a steampunky piano playing piano together? (collaboration!) FEATURES - a steampunky rube goldberg machine? (but maybe that gives a false impression that we overengineer!) It does not need to necessarily be a rube goldberg machine (a deliberately overengineered apparatus that performs a very simple task in very indirect and convoluted fashion - wikipedia), only a very complex apparatus (leaving alone the part about the simple task). Maybe include a hamster wheel into the device, just for fun. - a clockmaker with wearing those funky spectacles working on the gears inside a pocket watch (could represent infinity also, if you draw the gears right) To simplify the drawing, the clockmaker can be seen from the back, leaning over the device: we see only the back of his head, part of the hands and part of the device. - old-style movie camera projecting onto a wall, 3... 2... 1 fedora! FIRST = - a steampunky astronaut putting a Fedora flag on the moon? A good reference could be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_Earth_to_the_Moon (which does not involve the landing but is close). - a steampunky rail-cart (eg http://www.die-cast-toys.com/plastic-soldiers/swoppets/railcart.jpg) race with the coolest-looking rail-cart driver clearly in first place (maybe he has a Fedora logo on him somewhere or somehow represents Fedora; maybe he has a more interesting wardrobe than the rest so he stands out) - or maybe a steamboat race instead of a railcart race :) I think one of those (rail-cart or boat) can work. Maybe use the boat if we also used a boat for freedom and sailors for friendship. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:25 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: I'm wondering if this could be tied into the F10 artwork theme I've been sketching up some steampunky doodles lately. Maybe I'll do some along these lines. Here are some steampunk-inspired ideas: Those ideas are just awesome, I like a lot the way you are thinking. However, not sure how practical: they are the opposite of the I/F/V posters, which aimed for simplicity. I for one have doubts I could draw myself such images. But you are better at drawing than me. I think these ideas rock too. FREEDOM === - person strapped to a Wright-Brothers-esque flying contraption (flight is usually associated with freedom... or maybe a steampunky blimp/zeppelin ride with a crowd of steampunky people together waving on the balcony, you also get the community aspect there) I think I like better the blimp take, only careful to not be to much like the F7 balloon (and not too much like the mozillaZine blimp). Oh, now you're talking, the Fedora zeppelin! (Cue The Ocean...) - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize great potential and/or freedom, I think) The steamboat is fading into the sunset, just like a movie ending this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship And the steamboat is flying a Fedora flag. In fact, all of the tableaux feature a Fedora logo somehow -- and that's the only occurrence of blue in any of the pictures. The rest of each picture is all that steampunky sepia tone. FRIENDS === - steampunky sailors toasting on deck, their pewter mugs of grog clanking together I like the sailors take and we can say Fedora is Free as in Freedom but also free as in free grog. Nice, but... - maybe a silly idea, but a group of victorian/steampunky clad women in a circle, each knitting a piece together. Maybe what they're knitting is a Fedora flag? And nobody can accuse us that Fedora is a community unfriendly for women :p ...this version includes a Fedora flag/logo, which I think is key to each picture to make it our own. - Or maybe a few steampunky people sitting at a steampunky piano playing piano together? (collaboration!) FEATURES - a steampunky rube goldberg machine? (but maybe that gives a false impression that we overengineer!) It does not need to necessarily be a rube goldberg machine (a deliberately overengineered apparatus that performs a very simple task in very indirect and convoluted fashion - wikipedia), only a very complex apparatus (leaving alone the part about the simple task). Maybe include a hamster wheel into the device, just for fun. - a clockmaker with wearing those funky spectacles working on the gears inside a pocket watch (could represent infinity also, if you draw the gears right) To simplify the drawing, the clockmaker can be seen from the back, leaning over the device: we see only the back of his head, part of the hands and part of the device. - old-style movie camera projecting onto a wall, 3... 2... 1 fedora! What if every picture was oriented on the steampunky steamboat? So this one would be a shot of the engine room, with a big lit-up Fedora logo as an incandenscent light on the wall. Maybe the logo is a stained-glass front for that light. FIRST = - a steampunky astronaut putting a Fedora flag on the moon? A good reference could be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_Earth_to_the_Moon (which does not involve the landing but is close). - a steampunky rail-cart (eg http://www.die-cast-toys.com/plastic-soldiers/swoppets/railcart.jpg) race with the coolest-looking rail-cart driver clearly in first place (maybe he has a Fedora logo on him somewhere or somehow represents Fedora; maybe he has a more interesting wardrobe than the rest so he stands out) - or maybe a steamboat race instead of a railcart race :) I think one of those (rail-cart or boat) can work. Maybe use the boat if we also used a boat for freedom and sailors for friendship. Right, the boat ftw! Or we could show the sailors planting a Fedora flag on an undiscovered island... -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
Paul W. Frields wrote: The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends, features, first). I think people here already know these terms from elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-) Ahhh the f-f-f-f reminds me of the old McDonald's campaign - food, folks, and fun! food folks and fun! You know the one, McDonald's, for food, folks, and fun!!! (now that's stuck in my head, arghh) Freedom, friends, and fun! You know the one, Fedora... ././ ././ So, I'm asking if the Artwork team can create new poster artwork around the 4 Foundations, to spread this new message as effectively as the one you helped build around our logo. I've put this on the design queue[3] as well. I'm wondering if this could be tied into the F10 artwork theme I've been sketching up some steampunky doodles lately. Maybe I'll do some along these lines. Here are some steampunk-inspired ideas: FREEDOM === - person strapped to a Wright-Brothers-esque flying contraption (flight is usually associated with freedom... or maybe a steampunky blimp/zeppelin ride with a crowd of steampunky people together waving on the balcony, you also get the community aspect there) - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize great potential and/or freedom, I think) FRIENDS === - steampunky sailors toasting on deck, their pewter mugs of grog clanking together - maybe a silly idea, but a group of victorian/steampunky clad women in a circle, each knitting a piece together. Maybe what they're knitting is a Fedora flag? - Or maybe a few steampunky people sitting at a steampunky piano playing piano together? (collaboration!) FEATURES - a steampunky rube goldberg machine? (but maybe that gives a false impression that we overengineer!) - a clockmaker with wearing those funky spectacles working on the gears inside a pocket watch (could represent infinity also, if you draw the gears right) - old-style movie camera projecting onto a wall, 3... 2... 1 fedora! FIRST = - a steampunky astronaut putting a Fedora flag on the moon? - a steampunky rail-cart (eg http://www.die-cast-toys.com/plastic-soldiers/swoppets/railcart.jpg) race with the coolest-looking rail-cart driver clearly in first place (maybe he has a Fedora logo on him somewhere or somehow represents Fedora; maybe he has a more interesting wardrobe than the rest so he stands out) - or maybe a steamboat race instead of a railcart race :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
Nicu Buculei schrieb: Paul W. Frields wrote: Not a bad idea, as long as we don't make these too much like the Apple ad campaigns. We'd need a differentiator of some sort, which will be difficult because their campaigns use a wide variety of backgrounds -- monopolizing the color field if we're using silhouettes. Ha ha, as hard to belie as is, I have to do some research into Apple's adds, they do not target the market I live in, so I am not familiar with the subject. hello all, I also think (as i had hopefully mentioned before) that e.g. the apple adds are ONE of many possibilitys to hang on and could have in minde for the own adds. Nevertheless, for those who did not know ... there was e.g. the think different campaign (perhaps there are more like the ipod add, but the making is the same). Apple takes some great heads of the century and made some b/w posters only with the text think different of it. http://cfs9.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzE0MTgyN0BmczkudGlzdG9yeS5jb206L2F0dGFjaC8wLzMuanBn http://www.macsecrets.com/2002/img/logo_think_different_plakat.jpg http://www.savoy-truffle.de/dylan/bilder/Dylan-thinks-different-big.jpg http://www.pci.uni-heidelberg.de/tc/usr/chris/pics/Think_different2.jpg http://onionesquereality.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/apple_think_different.jpg (there are all Posters at one) and also a video-add: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oAB83Z1ydE Maybe the text to the video can modified, other pictures can be taken, but I think we have some of the same intentions... I fully agree not TO much take from the great company with the fruit Logo..., but I think we can learn much of this add. So, maybe we could have one Theme, one Artwork (maybe for F11) and draw around that Posters, Wallpapers, Icons and video adds ... just my 2 Cents ;-) sincerly Henrik ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:39 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Paul W. Frields wrote: The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends, features, first). I think people here already know these terms from elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-) A very quick and rough idea (I'll have to think more about it before trying some graphics): my opinion is that *now* is the time to emphasize the *people* aspect of Fedora (the distro is not only for spaceships and robots, it is for humans too). So I think about using some people silhouettes (not real people images, as we don't want legal complications) in various postures, one for each of the 4 foundations (for a set of 4 posters). Not a bad idea, as long as we don't make these too much like the Apple ad campaigns. We'd need a differentiator of some sort, which will be difficult because their campaigns use a wide variety of backgrounds -- monopolizing the color field if we're using silhouettes. Here are a few possible metaphors: - Freedom: a couple of people silhouettes enjoying themselves: dancing, jumping, something like that; - Friends: a couple of friends shaking hands is too stereotypical, but I am sure it is not that hard to illustrate friendship; - Features: not very sure about that, maybe silhouettes involved in various activities: listening to music, playing games, remote controlling a robot; - First: maybe a small group of sprinters with one of them two steps ahead of the pack. Also I am not sure if those are best all blue or, as I/F/V, in various colors, each color supporting the poster's theme. These all sound really reasonable to me, with the caveat from above. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
Paul W. Frields wrote: The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends, features, first). I think people here already know these terms from elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-) A very quick and rough idea (I'll have to think more about it before trying some graphics): my opinion is that *now* is the time to emphasize the *people* aspect of Fedora (the distro is not only for spaceships and robots, it is for humans too). So I think about using some people silhouettes (not real people images, as we don't want legal complications) in various postures, one for each of the 4 foundations (for a set of 4 posters). Here are a few possible metaphors: - Freedom: a couple of people silhouettes enjoying themselves: dancing, jumping, something like that; - Friends: a couple of friends shaking hands is too stereotypical, but I am sure it is not that hard to illustrate friendship; - Features: not very sure about that, maybe silhouettes involved in various activities: listening to music, playing games, remote controlling a robot; - First: maybe a small group of sprinters with one of them two steps ahead of the pack. Also I am not sure if those are best all blue or, as I/F/V, in various colors, each color supporting the poster's theme. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: - First: maybe a small group of sprinters with one of them two steps ahead of the pack. People at a sports event with foam fingers. (Just a thought :P ) -- Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet. ~ Douglas Adams ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Poster revision
Hi Fedora artistes, The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends, features, first). I think people here already know these terms from elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-) Infinity / Freedom / Voice has been a powerful message and an excellent way to characterize the themes that went into the Fedora logo. The logo has become a completely identifiable brand for us, and the original triptych posters[2] for these themes have allowed our brand to grow throughout the community. Now, it's time for us to build a revitalized message around the more concrete themes that characterize the entire Fedora Project as a whole. So, I'm asking if the Artwork team can create new poster artwork around the 4 Foundations, to spread this new message as effectively as the one you helped build around our logo. I've put this on the design queue[3] as well. Discussion and input, as always, welcome! = = = [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Plan [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#Posters [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PrintDesignService -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list