Re: Poster revision

2008-08-01 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 08:57 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Máirín Duffy wrote:
  
  Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go 
  though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet 
  and needs some cleanup:
 
 Yeah, I bet a lot of people would start screaming about that US flag, it 
 really has to be replace until the final version (its OK in the sketch).

I think the idea would be to replace it with a shockingly blue Fedora
flag, right?

  http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg
 
 That's not bad at all, maybe move the boat a bit to the left?
 
 I agree about photomanip not being the best way to go, for printing 
 posters (A3?) we would need hi-res images, more than is available 
 usually on flickr (or maybe go for hunting photos with our own cameras? 
 - not that easy)

Especially steamboats!

But this is a *really* cool image. :-)

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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-31 Thread Máirín Duffy

Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:25 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
  - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the 
horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize 
great potential and/or freedom, I think)
The steamboat is fading into the sunset, just like a movie ending this 
is the beginning of a beautiful friendship


And the steamboat is flying a Fedora flag.  In fact, all of the tableaux
feature a Fedora logo somehow -- and that's the only occurrence of blue
in any of the pictures.  The rest of each picture is all that steampunky
sepia tone.


Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go 
though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet 
and needs some cleanup:


http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg

Source images:

Delta Queen by Velo Steve, CC-Attribution
http://flickr.com/photos/juniorvelo/482160982/

Early Light on the River by FreeWine, CC-Attribution
http://flickr.com/photos/freewine/2432647532/sizes/l/

Cracked Concrete by Mairin, CC-Attribution
http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2609643770/sizes/o/in/set-72157605804091881/

The gimp XCF source is in the same directory...

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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-31 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:


Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go 
though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet 
and needs some cleanup:


Yeah, I bet a lot of people would start screaming about that US flag, it 
really has to be replace until the final version (its OK in the sketch).



http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg


That's not bad at all, maybe move the boat a bit to the left?

I agree about photomanip not being the best way to go, for printing 
posters (A3?) we would need hi-res images, more than is available 
usually on flickr (or maybe go for hunting photos with our own cameras? 
- not that easy)


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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-30 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:


I'm wondering if this could be tied into the F10 artwork theme I've 
been sketching up some steampunky doodles lately. Maybe I'll do some 
along these lines. Here are some steampunk-inspired ideas:


Those ideas are just awesome, I like a lot the way you are thinking. 
However, not sure how practical: they are the opposite of the I/F/V 
posters, which aimed for simplicity.
I for one have doubts I could draw myself such images. But you are 
better at drawing than me.



FREEDOM
===
  - person strapped to a Wright-Brothers-esque flying contraption 
(flight is usually associated with freedom... or maybe a steampunky 
blimp/zeppelin ride with a crowd of steampunky people together waving on 
the balcony, you also get the community aspect there)


I think I like better the blimp take, only careful to not be to much 
like the F7 balloon (and not too much like the mozillaZine blimp).


  - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the 
horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize 
great potential and/or freedom, I think)


The steamboat is fading into the sunset, just like a movie ending this 
is the beginning of a beautiful friendship



FRIENDS
===
  - steampunky sailors toasting on deck, their pewter mugs of grog 
clanking together


I like the sailors take and we can say Fedora is Free as in Freedom but 
also free as in free grog.


  - maybe a silly idea, but a group of victorian/steampunky clad women 
in a circle, each knitting a piece together. Maybe what they're knitting 
is a Fedora flag?


And nobody can accuse us that Fedora is a community unfriendly for women :p

  - Or maybe a few steampunky people sitting at a steampunky piano 
playing piano together? (collaboration!)


FEATURES

  - a steampunky rube goldberg machine? (but maybe that gives a false 
impression that we overengineer!)


It does not need to necessarily be a rube goldberg machine (a 
deliberately overengineered apparatus that performs a very simple task 
in very indirect and convoluted fashion - wikipedia), only a very 
complex apparatus (leaving alone the part about the simple task). Maybe 
include a hamster wheel into the device, just for fun.


  - a clockmaker with wearing those funky spectacles working on the 
gears inside a pocket watch (could represent infinity also, if you draw 
the gears right)


To simplify the drawing, the clockmaker can be seen from the back, 
leaning over the device: we see only the back of his head, part of the 
hands and part of the device.



  - old-style movie camera projecting onto a wall, 3... 2... 1 fedora!

FIRST
=
  - a steampunky astronaut putting a Fedora flag on the moon?


A good reference could be 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_Earth_to_the_Moon (which does not 
involve the landing but is close).


  - a steampunky rail-cart (eg 
http://www.die-cast-toys.com/plastic-soldiers/swoppets/railcart.jpg) 
race with the coolest-looking rail-cart driver clearly in first place 
(maybe he has a Fedora logo on him somewhere or somehow represents 
Fedora; maybe he has a more interesting wardrobe than the rest so he 
stands out)

  - or maybe a steamboat race instead of a railcart race :)


I think one of those (rail-cart or boat) can work. Maybe use the boat if 
we also used a boat for freedom and sailors for friendship.


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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:25 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Máirín Duffy wrote:
  
  I'm wondering if this could be tied into the F10 artwork theme I've 
  been sketching up some steampunky doodles lately. Maybe I'll do some 
  along these lines. Here are some steampunk-inspired ideas:
 
 Those ideas are just awesome, I like a lot the way you are thinking. 
 However, not sure how practical: they are the opposite of the I/F/V 
 posters, which aimed for simplicity.
 I for one have doubts I could draw myself such images. But you are 
 better at drawing than me.

I think these ideas rock too.

  FREEDOM
  ===
- person strapped to a Wright-Brothers-esque flying contraption 
  (flight is usually associated with freedom... or maybe a steampunky 
  blimp/zeppelin ride with a crowd of steampunky people together waving on 
  the balcony, you also get the community aspect there)
 
 I think I like better the blimp take, only careful to not be to much 
 like the F7 balloon (and not too much like the mozillaZine blimp).

Oh, now you're talking, the Fedora zeppelin!  (Cue The Ocean...)

- a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the 
  horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize 
  great potential and/or freedom, I think)
 
 The steamboat is fading into the sunset, just like a movie ending this 
 is the beginning of a beautiful friendship

And the steamboat is flying a Fedora flag.  In fact, all of the tableaux
feature a Fedora logo somehow -- and that's the only occurrence of blue
in any of the pictures.  The rest of each picture is all that steampunky
sepia tone.

  FRIENDS
  ===
- steampunky sailors toasting on deck, their pewter mugs of grog 
  clanking together
 
 I like the sailors take and we can say Fedora is Free as in Freedom but 
 also free as in free grog.

Nice, but...

- maybe a silly idea, but a group of victorian/steampunky clad women 
  in a circle, each knitting a piece together. Maybe what they're knitting 
  is a Fedora flag?
 
 And nobody can accuse us that Fedora is a community unfriendly for women :p

...this version includes a Fedora flag/logo, which I think is key to
each picture to make it our own.

- Or maybe a few steampunky people sitting at a steampunky piano 
  playing piano together? (collaboration!)
  
  FEATURES
  
- a steampunky rube goldberg machine? (but maybe that gives a false 
  impression that we overengineer!)
 
 It does not need to necessarily be a rube goldberg machine (a 
 deliberately overengineered apparatus that performs a very simple task 
 in very indirect and convoluted fashion - wikipedia), only a very 
 complex apparatus (leaving alone the part about the simple task). Maybe 
 include a hamster wheel into the device, just for fun.
 
- a clockmaker with wearing those funky spectacles working on the 
  gears inside a pocket watch (could represent infinity also, if you draw 
  the gears right)
 
 To simplify the drawing, the clockmaker can be seen from the back, 
 leaning over the device: we see only the back of his head, part of the 
 hands and part of the device.
 
- old-style movie camera projecting onto a wall, 3... 2... 1 fedora!

What if every picture was oriented on the steampunky steamboat?  So this
one would be a shot of the engine room, with a big lit-up Fedora logo as
an incandenscent light on the wall.  Maybe the logo is a stained-glass
front for that light.

  FIRST
  =
- a steampunky astronaut putting a Fedora flag on the moon?
 
 A good reference could be 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_Earth_to_the_Moon (which does not 
 involve the landing but is close).
 
- a steampunky rail-cart (eg 
  http://www.die-cast-toys.com/plastic-soldiers/swoppets/railcart.jpg) 
  race with the coolest-looking rail-cart driver clearly in first place 
  (maybe he has a Fedora logo on him somewhere or somehow represents 
  Fedora; maybe he has a more interesting wardrobe than the rest so he 
  stands out)
- or maybe a steamboat race instead of a railcart race :)
 
 I think one of those (rail-cart or boat) can work. Maybe use the boat if 
 we also used a boat for freedom and sailors for friendship.

Right, the boat ftw!  Or we could show the sailors planting a Fedora
flag on an undiscovered island...

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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-29 Thread Máirín Duffy

Paul W. Frields wrote:

The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future
Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends,
features, first).  I think people here already know these terms from
elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-)


Ahhh the f-f-f-f reminds me of the old McDonald's campaign - food, 
folks, and fun! food folks and fun! You know the one, McDonald's, for 
food, folks, and fun!!!


(now that's stuck in my head, arghh)

Freedom, friends, and fun! You know the one, Fedora... ././   ././


So, I'm asking if the Artwork team can create new poster artwork around
the 4 Foundations, to spread this new message as effectively as the
one you helped build around our logo.  I've put this on the design
queue[3] as well.


I'm wondering if this could be tied into the F10 artwork theme I've 
been sketching up some steampunky doodles lately. Maybe I'll do some 
along these lines. Here are some steampunk-inspired ideas:


FREEDOM
===
  - person strapped to a Wright-Brothers-esque flying contraption 
(flight is usually associated with freedom... or maybe a steampunky 
blimp/zeppelin ride with a crowd of steampunky people together waving on 
the balcony, you also get the community aspect there)
  - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the 
horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize 
great potential and/or freedom, I think)


FRIENDS
===
  - steampunky sailors toasting on deck, their pewter mugs of grog 
clanking together
  - maybe a silly idea, but a group of victorian/steampunky clad women 
in a circle, each knitting a piece together. Maybe what they're knitting 
is a Fedora flag?
  - Or maybe a few steampunky people sitting at a steampunky piano 
playing piano together? (collaboration!)


FEATURES

  - a steampunky rube goldberg machine? (but maybe that gives a false 
impression that we overengineer!)
  - a clockmaker with wearing those funky spectacles working on the 
gears inside a pocket watch (could represent infinity also, if you draw 
the gears right)

  - old-style movie camera projecting onto a wall, 3... 2... 1 fedora!

FIRST
=
  - a steampunky astronaut putting a Fedora flag on the moon?
  - a steampunky rail-cart (eg 
http://www.die-cast-toys.com/plastic-soldiers/swoppets/railcart.jpg) 
race with the coolest-looking rail-cart driver clearly in first place 
(maybe he has a Fedora logo on him somewhere or somehow represents 
Fedora; maybe he has a more interesting wardrobe than the rest so he 
stands out)

  - or maybe a steamboat race instead of a railcart race :)

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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-28 Thread wonderer

Nicu Buculei schrieb:

Paul W. Frields wrote:


Not a bad idea, as long as we don't make these too much like the Apple
ad campaigns.  We'd need a differentiator of some sort, which will be
difficult because their campaigns use a wide variety of backgrounds --
monopolizing the color field if we're using silhouettes.


Ha ha, as hard to belie as is, I have to do some research into Apple's 
adds, they do not target the market I live in, so I am not familiar 
with the subject.



hello all,

I also think (as i had hopefully mentioned before) that e.g. the apple 
adds are ONE of many possibilitys to hang on and could have in minde for 
the own adds.
Nevertheless, for those who did not know ... there was e.g. the think 
different campaign (perhaps there are more like the ipod add, but the 
making is the same). Apple takes some great heads of the century and 
made some b/w posters only with the text think different of it.


http://cfs9.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzE0MTgyN0BmczkudGlzdG9yeS5jb206L2F0dGFjaC8wLzMuanBn
http://www.macsecrets.com/2002/img/logo_think_different_plakat.jpg
http://www.savoy-truffle.de/dylan/bilder/Dylan-thinks-different-big.jpg
http://www.pci.uni-heidelberg.de/tc/usr/chris/pics/Think_different2.jpg
http://onionesquereality.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/apple_think_different.jpg 
(there are all Posters at one)


and also a video-add:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oAB83Z1ydE

Maybe the text to the video can modified, other pictures can be taken, 
but I think we have some of the same intentions... I fully agree not TO 
much take from the great company with the fruit Logo..., but I think 
we can learn much of this add.
So, maybe we could have one Theme, one Artwork (maybe for F11) and 
draw around that Posters, Wallpapers, Icons and video adds ... just my 2 
Cents ;-)


sincerly
Henrik

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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-27 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:39 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: 
 Paul W. Frields wrote:
  
  The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future
  Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends,
  features, first).  I think people here already know these terms from
  elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-)
 
 A very quick and rough idea (I'll have to think more about it before 
 trying some graphics): my opinion is that *now* is the time to emphasize 
 the *people* aspect of Fedora (the distro is not only for spaceships and 
 robots, it is for humans too).
 So I think about using some people silhouettes (not real people images, 
 as we don't want legal complications) in various postures, one for each 
 of the 4 foundations (for a set of 4 posters).

Not a bad idea, as long as we don't make these too much like the Apple
ad campaigns.  We'd need a differentiator of some sort, which will be
difficult because their campaigns use a wide variety of backgrounds --
monopolizing the color field if we're using silhouettes.

 Here are a few possible metaphors:
 - Freedom: a couple of people silhouettes enjoying themselves: dancing, 
 jumping, something like that;
 - Friends: a couple of friends shaking hands is too stereotypical, but I 
 am sure it is not that hard to illustrate friendship;
 - Features: not very sure about that, maybe silhouettes involved in 
 various activities: listening to music, playing games, remote 
 controlling a robot;
 - First: maybe a small group of sprinters with one of them two steps 
 ahead of the pack.
 
 Also I am not sure if those are best all blue or, as I/F/V, in various 
 colors, each color supporting the poster's theme.

These all sound really reasonable to me, with the caveat from above.

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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-25 Thread Nicu Buculei

Paul W. Frields wrote:


The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future
Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends,
features, first).  I think people here already know these terms from
elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-)


A very quick and rough idea (I'll have to think more about it before 
trying some graphics): my opinion is that *now* is the time to emphasize 
the *people* aspect of Fedora (the distro is not only for spaceships and 
robots, it is for humans too).
So I think about using some people silhouettes (not real people images, 
as we don't want legal complications) in various postures, one for each 
of the 4 foundations (for a set of 4 posters).


Here are a few possible metaphors:
- Freedom: a couple of people silhouettes enjoying themselves: dancing, 
jumping, something like that;
- Friends: a couple of friends shaking hands is too stereotypical, but I 
am sure it is not that hard to illustrate friendship;
- Features: not very sure about that, maybe silhouettes involved in 
various activities: listening to music, playing games, remote 
controlling a robot;
- First: maybe a small group of sprinters with one of them two steps 
ahead of the pack.


Also I am not sure if those are best all blue or, as I/F/V, in various 
colors, each color supporting the poster's theme.


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Re: Poster revision

2008-07-25 Thread Ian Weller

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote:

- First: maybe a small group of sprinters with one of them two steps ahead of 
the pack.



People at a sports event with foam fingers. (Just a thought :P )

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Poster revision

2008-07-24 Thread Paul W. Frields
Hi Fedora artistes, 

The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future
Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends,
features, first).  I think people here already know these terms from
elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-)

Infinity / Freedom / Voice has been a powerful message and an
excellent way to characterize the themes that went into the Fedora logo.
The logo has become a completely identifiable brand for us, and the
original triptych posters[2] for these themes have allowed our brand
to grow throughout the community.  Now, it's time for us to build a
revitalized message around the more concrete themes that characterize
the entire Fedora Project as a whole.

So, I'm asking if the Artwork team can create new poster artwork around
the 4 Foundations, to spread this new message as effectively as the
one you helped build around our logo.  I've put this on the design
queue[3] as well.

Discussion and input, as always, welcome!

= = =
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Plan 
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#Posters 
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PrintDesignService 

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