Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Nicu Buculei wrote: Here are the sources for a few basic "gears" elements: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/stuff/f10_steampunk_elements.svg I will think about adding some in the next few days. The link above is updated with a few more elements. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Here are the sources for a few basic "gears" elements: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/stuff/f10_steampunk_elements.svg I will think about adding some in the next few days. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 09:57 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png > > > > While I think the all-blue one is less distractive and would work better > > for a wallpaper, the one with the widget is basically impossible to > > ignore. One thing that catches my eye is the colour of the gears in > > background (in 3c). Also the distraction created by the complexity of > > the wallpaper is IMHO too big (too much of detailed gears, IMHO). > > For me the *widget* was too distracting but I think that Mo's latest (I > believe she forgot to link it here) is much better in this regard: > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c_withclo.png > I think I like the previous one better - the widget (or is it gadget?) is rather small and IMHO successfully draws attention away from the zillion of gears, which for me this one does not and covers too big area of the wallpaper. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Martin Sourada wrote: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png While I think the all-blue one is less distractive and would work better for a wallpaper, the one with the widget is basically impossible to ignore. One thing that catches my eye is the colour of the gears in background (in 3c). Also the distraction created by the complexity of the wallpaper is IMHO too big (too much of detailed gears, IMHO). For me the *widget* was too distracting but I think that Mo's latest (I believe she forgot to link it here) is much better in this regard: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c_withclo.png -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 01:18 -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ wrote: > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the > > banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set? > > > > Or maybe we could have another focus besides just gear cogs? > > Well here's another couple iterations: > > I made this weird gear gadget thingy (modeled after watch internals) > using Nicu's gears and some custom other thingys: > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png > > Also liked how the background was a bit more subtle behind it so I made > a copy without the weird watch thing: > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3d.png > > I also attached the SVG source for the new gear arrangement. > > ~m What could I say... The recent takes in the gears theme is simply awesome. I am myself torn between http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl-normal2.png and http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png While I think the all-blue one is less distractive and would work better for a wallpaper, the one with the widget is basically impossible to ignore. One thing that catches my eye is the colour of the gears in background (in 3c). Also the distraction created by the complexity of the wallpaper is IMHO too big (too much of detailed gears, IMHO). Perhaps try a combination of both (blurry blue gears in background and the widget in the front) and more de-focusing of the gears in background? Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Matthias Clasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not that my voice counts much, but I must say that I liked the earlier > monochromatic (blue) version much better. I've used it for a few days > now, and it is very nice. This is the one I like best so far, but then I usually have so many windows open I hardly ever see my desktop. http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl-normal2.png Maybe I should talk my boss into getting me a 2nd or 3rd monitor so I can enjoy the Art team's work more. Jeff ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 11:10 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > I'm not sure how to get around that, because even though I disagree that > it's "KDE", that perception is not something I think we want and enough > people have made comments to that effect that I think we're going to get > that unless we modify that version of the wallpaper somehow. I'm personally fine with my background looking 'kde'... ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 01:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set? Or maybe we could have another focus besides just gear cogs? Well here's another couple iterations: I made this weird gear gadget thingy (modeled after watch internals) using Nicu's gears and some custom other thingys: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png Also liked how the background was a bit more subtle behind it so I made a copy without the weird watch thing: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3d.png I also attached the SVG source for the new gear arrangement. Not that my voice counts much, but I must say that I liked the earlier monochromatic (blue) version much better. I've used it for a few days now, and it is very nice. I actually really liked that one better as a wallpaper too, and I think it may be a better style for a default Fedora wallpaper because it's so blue. However the problem is that as soon as we tint the gears blue, people complain it's "too KDE." I'm not sure how to get around that, because even though I disagree that it's "KDE", that perception is not something I think we want and enough people have made comments to that effect that I think we're going to get that unless we modify that version of the wallpaper somehow. My only ideas are different coloring (which I tried above but I think it doesn't seem as suitable for a wallpaper) or if some additional widgets can be integrated into it so the gears are just one type of object in the design, maybe there won't be such a strong association with KDE. I'm not sure what though. Maybe gears at all different angles and other things you'd see inside a watch like Robin suggested earlier. Another idea I had was maybe to create some kind of abstract steampunky object, kind of like these steampunk jewelry pieces [1] and have that as a focal point along the right bottom of the wallpaper. ~m [1] http://www.greatgreengoods.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/steampunk.jpg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 01:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the > > banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set? > > > > Or maybe we could have another focus besides just gear cogs? > > Well here's another couple iterations: > > I made this weird gear gadget thingy (modeled after watch internals) > using Nicu's gears and some custom other thingys: > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png > > Also liked how the background was a bit more subtle behind it so I made > a copy without the weird watch thing: > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3d.png > > I also attached the SVG source for the new gear arrangement. Not that my voice counts much, but I must say that I liked the earlier monochromatic (blue) version much better. I've used it for a few days now, and it is very nice. Matthias ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Máirín Duffy wrote: Well here's another couple iterations: I made this weird gear gadget thingy (modeled after watch internals) using Nicu's gears and some custom other thingys: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png Also liked how the background was a bit more subtle behind it so I made a copy without the weird watch thing: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3d.png I like better the simple version, without the additional gear. I also think this time the "gold" is almost right (I as not that happy with it in the previous iterations). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Máirín Duffy wrote: Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set? Or maybe we could have another focus besides just gear cogs? Well here's another couple iterations: I made this weird gear gadget thingy (modeled after watch internals) using Nicu's gears and some custom other thingys: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png Also liked how the background was a bit more subtle behind it so I made a copy without the weird watch thing: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3d.png I also attached the SVG source for the new gear arrangement. ~m <>___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 09:01:17AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On a technical note, I suspect for this image we may have to go with the > source in .xcf (the most awesome part of the graphic is made with layer > modes in GIMP). > Last release we used GIMP scripts to get things done. Sometimes that's impossible, but if it can be automated, that's the most open you can get with the art. -- Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams pgpILuugRNBDz.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:57:51AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > To my eye, there are not too many gears. Have a look at the "Open Type" > wallpaper included by default in Fedora (which is somewhat alike with > this concept): that would be too many. > Whether by comparison or not, my firm opinion is that the number of gears should be reduced. It's too cluttered for a desktop. -- Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams pgpw7rApuKAHr.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Ian Weller wrote: I don't want to come off as not doing anything with this theme, and just saying what I think without any contribution back. As I did last release, I can probably help out in rendering all the different wallpaper sizes from the scratch SVGs -- maybe we can do it early enough where we can produce a standard Makefile of some sort and build it on Koji, have the SVGs in the SRPM. (I'm getting technical now.) On a technical note, I suspect for this image we may have to go with the source in .xcf (the most awesome part of the graphic is made with layer modes in GIMP). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Ian Weller wrote: It also seems like there's too many gears and the desktop, as a whole, is distracting. To my eye, there are not too many gears. Have a look at the "Open Type" wallpaper included by default in Fedora (which is somewhat alike with this concept): that would be too many. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
[21:34] lightbulb! [21:35] if we're going for the feel of inside some machine for the gears proposal [21:35] we should have a rather direct light source that changes color as the day goes by [21:36] not everything in the area would get to change color, just the parts in the way of the light source Ian Weller wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 05:37:05PM -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ wrote: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk_screened.png Excellent, although I am *not* a fan of the gold gears. All blue for the desktop at least, maybe with different gradients depending on the time of day, but it should all be smooth. Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set? Definitely. I don't want to come off as not doing anything with this theme, and just saying what I think without any contribution back. As I did last release, I can probably help out in rendering all the different wallpaper sizes from the scratch SVGs -- maybe we can do it early enough where we can produce a standard Makefile of some sort and build it on Koji, have the SVGs in the SRPM. (I'm getting technical now.) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:32:21 -0500 Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 04:50:38PM -0400, Robin Norwood wrote: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Clock_Tower,_Great_Court,_Trinity_College,_Cambridge.jpg > > > Not that this has anything to do with anything, but... > /me spots Cambridge in the URL > /me looks at the Fedora 10 release name > /me ducks Well, I did a GIS for 'Cambridge clock tower' to find the above image... Trinity college is a (relatively) well-known college in Cambridge (UK, not MA). Sir Isaac Newton happens to be an alum. Newton knew a bit about motion, and was also the originator of the clockwork universe theory. Nice how that works out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clockwork_universe -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 05:37:05PM -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ wrote: > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk_screened.png > Excellent, although I am *not* a fan of the gold gears. All blue for the desktop at least, maybe with different gradients depending on the time of day, but it should all be smooth. > Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the > banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set? > Definitely. I don't want to come off as not doing anything with this theme, and just saying what I think without any contribution back. As I did last release, I can probably help out in rendering all the different wallpaper sizes from the scratch SVGs -- maybe we can do it early enough where we can produce a standard Makefile of some sort and build it on Koji, have the SVGs in the SRPM. (I'm getting technical now.) -- Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams pgpapayifVKJP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Máirín Duffy wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Since the first round ended, we had very little theme activity, so maybe is time to heat the things a bit. I worked on a possible evolution of the Gears theme, about having a lot of gears in a very complex machinery, here is its current status (work in progress, there is a ton of work to do on it): - preview: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears-r2.png - source: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears-r2.svg My intention is to as at least a couple more layers of gears and I *must* find a way to add some blue. Opinions? Ideas? Here's my try that I showed you in IRC today. It's very blue :) It seems more cyberpunk than steampunk. I may try a different approach to give it a more steampunk feel. http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.png Source: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.xcf (I didn't do any inkscape mods except I do have some layers in there that are Nicu's original gears with the background layer removed.) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Awesome! It has lots of depth and a sense of mystery. Reminds me a little of the great end credits animation in the Lemony Snicket movie. Mike ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Ian Weller wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 02:17:36PM -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ wrote: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl-normal2.png Re: the colors - they should be easy enough to adjust. This monitor I have at work, I think the colors are a bit off so I may need to adjust when I get home where I think my laptop lcd surprisingly has better colors. I think the colors are a bit dark for Fedora. Something with a more Nodoka-default-blue feel would be much nicer IMHO. Of course, we can play with this with time-changing wallpapers and whatnot. Yeh if the darkness is an issue this is pretty easy to address: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk_screened.png It also seems like there's too many gears and the desktop, as a whole, is distracting. Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set? Or maybe we could have another focus besides just gear cogs? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 04:50:38PM -0400, Robin Norwood wrote: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Clock_Tower,_Great_Court,_Trinity_College,_Cambridge.jpg > Not that this has anything to do with anything, but... /me spots Cambridge in the URL /me looks at the Fedora 10 release name /me ducks -- Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams pgpTKXSOqyknl.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:17:36 -0400 Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * The multitude of gears is AWESOME. It might be nice to make them > > a bit more faded and subtle, but I wonder if that might lose detail > > to a point of losing the theme. > > Yeh. I am thinking maybe some clever fade-in fade-out might make it > more suitable for a desktop background. Another idea I had was make > some kind of keyhole shape in a much more solid/less distracting > gradient, and punch the hole (or wholes) through so you can see > glimpses of this gear work behind it. It might be a really cool > effect, but I also think it would take it even further towards the > cyberpunk end of the spectrum than steampunk. :) FWIW, I really like the keyhole idea, if you want to move it in a more concrete direction. By that, I mean more of a feeling of looking inside an actual mechanism than an abstract collection of gears. Both directions have merit, but I find the more-concrete idea interesting. I'd also personally love to see the gears meshing, and more types of mechanical components, such as ratchets, worm drives, flywheels, springs, et al. It could be made to look more like the inner workings of a clock or watch or similar device, such as: http://watchluxus.com/admin/ajax/image.php?src=101&maxwidth=550 With more of the inner workings covered up with the keyhole idea. Perhaps the keyhole(s) could be in the shape of or suggesting the Fedora logo? Also, this could be made to dovetail with the cambridge concept a little bit, for instance: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Clock_Tower,_Great_Court,_Trinity_College,_Cambridge.jpg In a different direction, could the rotating background effect be used to show a suggestion of an actual clock face with the current time? I realize that interpolating images of a clock with the hands at each hour will make a blur rather than discrete hand positions, but perhaps that could be made to work. -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 02:17:36PM -0400, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy_ wrote: > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl-normal2.png > > Re: the colors - they should be easy enough to adjust. This monitor I > have at work, I think the colors are a bit off so I may need to adjust > when I get home where I think my laptop lcd surprisingly has better > colors. > I think the colors are a bit dark for Fedora. Something with a more Nodoka-default-blue feel would be much nicer IMHO. Of course, we can play with this with time-changing wallpapers and whatnot. It also seems like there's too many gears and the desktop, as a whole, is distracting. -- Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams pgpLVgrtHGUVh.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 14:17 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 19:08 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Máirín Duffy wrote: > >>> Here's my try that I showed you in IRC today. It's very blue :) It seems > >>> more cyberpunk than steampunk. I may try a different approach to give it > >>> a more steampunk feel. > >>> > >>> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.png > >> Which I think is a very cool looking image, I like it very much. And of > >> course I am curious to learn about your ideas about a more steampunk feel. > >> > >> We may have a winner here. > > > > It does look pretty cool. I tried it on my desktop and have a couple > > observations, although I'm concerned these fall into "eye of the > > beholder" category. Please take with a grain (or 1000) of salt. > > > > * The blue's a bit intense or saturated for a background, maybe a bit > > too much toward the violet -- although I *do* like the idea of varying > > the shade of blue, in the way that F8 was more aqua, and F9 is more > > indigo. > > I totally agree with this. When I tried it as a wallpaper I noticed the > same thing. I made a less saturated version but I made it only for the > aspect ratio of my monitor; it's easy enough to recreate if we want to > use it though; I tweaked the blue channel of the image using the curves > tool: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl-normal2.png > > Re: the colors - they should be easy enough to adjust. This monitor I > have at work, I think the colors are a bit off so I may need to adjust > when I get home where I think my laptop lcd surprisingly has better colors. Yeah, I'm using a big LCD where I am, and although I'm not a color maven, I think I've adjusted it away from "meh" to "not bad." > > * The multitude of gears is AWESOME. It might be nice to make them a > > bit more faded and subtle, but I wonder if that might lose detail to a > > point of losing the theme. > > Yeh. I am thinking maybe some clever fade-in fade-out might make it more > suitable for a desktop background. Another idea I had was make some kind > of keyhole shape in a much more solid/less distracting gradient, and > punch the hole (or wholes) through so you can see glimpses of this gear > work behind it. It might be a really cool effect, but I also think it > would take it even further towards the cyberpunk end of the spectrum > than steampunk. :) That sounds like an *incredibly* cool idea to me. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 19:08 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's my try that I showed you in IRC today. It's very blue :) It seems more cyberpunk than steampunk. I may try a different approach to give it a more steampunk feel. http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.png Which I think is a very cool looking image, I like it very much. And of course I am curious to learn about your ideas about a more steampunk feel. We may have a winner here. It does look pretty cool. I tried it on my desktop and have a couple observations, although I'm concerned these fall into "eye of the beholder" category. Please take with a grain (or 1000) of salt. * The blue's a bit intense or saturated for a background, maybe a bit too much toward the violet -- although I *do* like the idea of varying the shade of blue, in the way that F8 was more aqua, and F9 is more indigo. I totally agree with this. When I tried it as a wallpaper I noticed the same thing. I made a less saturated version but I made it only for the aspect ratio of my monitor; it's easy enough to recreate if we want to use it though; I tweaked the blue channel of the image using the curves tool: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl-normal2.png Re: the colors - they should be easy enough to adjust. This monitor I have at work, I think the colors are a bit off so I may need to adjust when I get home where I think my laptop lcd surprisingly has better colors. * The multitude of gears is AWESOME. It might be nice to make them a bit more faded and subtle, but I wonder if that might lose detail to a point of losing the theme. Yeh. I am thinking maybe some clever fade-in fade-out might make it more suitable for a desktop background. Another idea I had was make some kind of keyhole shape in a much more solid/less distracting gradient, and punch the hole (or wholes) through so you can see glimpses of this gear work behind it. It might be a really cool effect, but I also think it would take it even further towards the cyberpunk end of the spectrum than steampunk. :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's my try that I showed you in IRC today. It's very blue :) It seems more cyberpunk than steampunk. I may try a different approach to give it a more steampunk feel. http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.png Which I think is a very cool looking image, I like it very much. And of course I am curious to learn about your ideas about a more steampunk feel. Well, here you go :) http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3.png I used a masked pipe photo to texturize the larger front gears, and I colored them in with a golden color using the color blending mode. So maybe the golden color with the texture makes it a little more steampunk. I kept the background blue. I also made a bit of a darkened version of the above; maybe it would be more suitable for a wallpaper because it's a little less distracting. http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3b.png I had to remove the other xcf i uploaded before; I ran out of fedorapeople.org space so I compressed the xcfs as a temporary solution: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.xcf.gz http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3b.xcf.gz (you can make both 3 and 3b from the 3b source above. Just turn off the swirl layer to get a 3 out of it) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 19:08 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > > Here's my try that I showed you in IRC today. It's very blue :) It seems > > more cyberpunk than steampunk. I may try a different approach to give it > > a more steampunk feel. > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.png > > Which I think is a very cool looking image, I like it very much. And of > course I am curious to learn about your ideas about a more steampunk feel. > > We may have a winner here. It does look pretty cool. I tried it on my desktop and have a couple observations, although I'm concerned these fall into "eye of the beholder" category. Please take with a grain (or 1000) of salt. * The blue's a bit intense or saturated for a background, maybe a bit too much toward the violet -- although I *do* like the idea of varying the shade of blue, in the way that F8 was more aqua, and F9 is more indigo. * The multitude of gears is AWESOME. It might be nice to make them a bit more faded and subtle, but I wonder if that might lose detail to a point of losing the theme. Anyway, just my observations, I'm in awe as always. :-) -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's my try that I showed you in IRC today. It's very blue :) It seems more cyberpunk than steampunk. I may try a different approach to give it a more steampunk feel. http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.png Which I think is a very cool looking image, I like it very much. And of course I am curious to learn about your ideas about a more steampunk feel. We may have a winner here. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
Nicu Buculei wrote: Since the first round ended, we had very little theme activity, so maybe is time to heat the things a bit. I worked on a possible evolution of the Gears theme, about having a lot of gears in a very complex machinery, here is its current status (work in progress, there is a ton of work to do on it): - preview: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears-r2.png - source: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears-r2.svg My intention is to as at least a couple more layers of gears and I *must* find a way to add some blue. Opinions? Ideas? Here's my try that I showed you in IRC today. It's very blue :) It seems more cyberpunk than steampunk. I may try a different approach to give it a more steampunk feel. http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.png Source: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/gears-blueswirl.xcf (I didn't do any inkscape mods except I do have some layers in there that are Nicu's original gears with the background layer removed.) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
