Re: [Nodoka Theme] Are we going to finally enable it?

2007-08-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 07:50 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Martin Sourada wrote:
 It's been a while since I changed my default theme to Nokoda and it 
 seems fine.
 It possible to get some hard numbers, to see how it stand 
 performance-wise compared with the current theme? Not sure what can be 
 used here, maybe GtkPerf [1] which is not packaged in Fedora.
 
 [1] - http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/
 

Hm... two years old app, yet it compiles and installs OK. In case you
are interested, there are the results:

with Nodoka:
GtkEntry - time:  0.10
GtkComboBox - time:  3.00
GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  2.52
GtkSpinButton - time:  0.55
GtkProgressBar - time:  0.14
GtkToggleButton - time:  0.98
GtkCheckButton - time:  0.70
GtkRadioButton - time:  1.06
GtkTextView - Add text - time:  2.12
GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  0.78
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  1.30
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  2.56
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  2.97
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  0.25
 --- 
Total time: 19.03

With Clearlooks:
GtkEntry - time:  0.10
GtkComboBox - time:  2.99
GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  2.53
GtkSpinButton - time:  0.52
GtkProgressBar - time:  0.56
GtkToggleButton - time:  0.95
GtkCheckButton - time:  0.86
GtkRadioButton - time:  1.15
GtkTextView - Add text - time:  2.16
GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  0.69
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  1.39
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  2.56
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  2.92
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  0.25
 --- 
Total time: 19.65

I personally think that the results for the widgets are rather same
(i.e. difference is so small that it can taken as statistical error),
only progressbar, checkbutton and radiobutton results are noticeably
better (probably a result of optimisations I've done to it while testing
it with gtk-theme-torturer)... The part from GTKTextView and
GTKDrawingArea shouldn't be dependent much on the theme (I think, after
seeing what it actually does during those tests...)

I tested it previously (when I was on the vacations) with
gtk-theme-torturer and did some optimisations back then so the Nodoka is
generally faster than clearlooks, only in some areas it is slower. I
however have no idea what most of those testing areas ( Boot-create,
Boot-map, Boot-expose, Boot-destroy, Expose, Resize) mean... Nodoka
usually falls behind Clearlooks in Boot-expose and Expose, while in
Boot-map, Boot-destroy and Resize it's faster. In Boot-create it's
mostly the same. I can maybe try to summarise the data and publish them
in some 'form', but it's quite a lot data, so the graphs I tried so far
aren't illustrative enough. I'll probably publish the results no sooner
than we release 0.6 beta, as we expect to do further optimisations till
then.

Martin


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Re: [Nodoka Theme] Are we going to finally enable it?

2007-08-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 23:37 +0200, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 This is now available in the repository FYI.
 
 Rahul

Thanks for the info, seems it will be available for F7 as well (was
built in koji for F7 yesterday as well).

Martin


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Re: [Nodoka Theme] Are we going to finally enable it?

2007-08-09 Thread Máirí­n Duffy

Martin Sourada wrote:

Test 1 is out, feature freeze and Test 2 are approaching, Nodoka theme
is visually more or less complete and I noticed it moved to
CategoryApprovedFedora8 [1]. So, as the packages are already in rawhide
it's now only a matter of enabling it by default. What you think? Who's
the person who can actually do it? 


I am actually not sure. Let me ask around but if anybody else knows 
please speak up!



Is it OK enabling Echo together with
it or I should rather change the metatheme to use the Fedora/Mist icon
theme (default in Fedora 7)?


Echo's not ready for F8. I say let's change it to Mist. We discussed 
this earlier on-list and folks seemed okay with it so let's do it.


~m

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Re: [Nodoka Theme] Are we going to finally enable it?

2007-08-09 Thread Matthias Clasen

On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 16:52 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Test 1 is out, feature freeze and Test 2 are approaching, Nodoka theme
 is visually more or less complete and I noticed it moved to
 CategoryApprovedFedora8 [1]. So, as the packages are already in rawhide
 it's now only a matter of enabling it by default. What you think? Who's
 the person who can actually do it? 


I can do it, but has the artwork contest ended yet ? Or are there no
other contenders for the gtk/icon theme area ?

 Is it OK enabling Echo together with
 it or I should rather change the metatheme to use the Fedora/Mist icon
 theme (default in Fedora 7)?

I have started to work on updating the echo package. That might take
some time, though.


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Re: [Nodoka Theme] Are we going to finally enable it?

2007-08-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 16:56 +0200, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 I can do it, but has the artwork contest ended yet ? Or are there no
 other contenders for the gtk/icon theme area ?
 

There are no other contenders for gtk/metacity theme and actually the
Nodoka theme is listed in the feature list and was approved, so in this
are I think we are already determined. So I think it's only a matter of
enabling it by default. As for the Echo, Mairín seems to think Echo is
not (and will not be) ready for Fedora 8, so we will probably will have
to fall back to Mist. I wait a day or two for other comments and if no
one is against I change the icon theme in the metatheme to the current
default. I'll let you know about it.

 I have started to work on updating the echo package. That might take
 some time, though.
 



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Re: [Nodoka Theme] Are we going to finally enable it?

2007-08-09 Thread Matthias Clasen

On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 10:56 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 
 I have started to work on updating the echo package. That might take
 some time, though.

I have put a new package up at

http://people.redhat.com/mclasen/echo-icon-theme-0.3-1.20070809.fc8.noarch.rpm

It is based on the icons found at people.fedoraproject.org. I had to
quite a bit of massaging on the icon-naming-utils perl script to most of
the same symlinks that J5's pull script did. Still, the package contains
some 100 .pngs less than the last snapshot. Thats why I haven't put it
in rawhide yet; I'd appreciate if people could check it out and tell me
if there are any significant regressions that should be fixed. 

On the flip side, the list of directories in index.theme is much closer
to reality now than it was in earlier snapshots...

Small discrepancies noticed while doing this:

16x16/mimes/x-office-calendarS-.png 

should probably be

16x16/mimetypes/x-office-calendar.png

Similar for 24x24.

Everything under 48x48/apps should probably be moved to
48x48/applications.

Matthias

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Re: [Nodoka Theme] Are we going to finally enable it?

2007-08-09 Thread Nicu Buculei

Martin Sourada wrote:

Hi,

Test 1 is out, feature freeze and Test 2 are approaching, Nodoka theme
is visually more or less complete and I noticed it moved to
CategoryApprovedFedora8 [1]. So, as the packages are already in rawhide
it's now only a matter of enabling it by default. What you think? Who's
the person who can actually do it? Is it OK enabling Echo together with
it or I should rather change the metatheme to use the Fedora/Mist icon
theme (default in Fedora 7)?


It's been a while since I changed my default theme to Nokoda and it 
seems fine.
It possible to get some hard numbers, to see how it stand 
performance-wise compared with the current theme? Not sure what can be 
used here, maybe GtkPerf [1] which is not packaged in Fedora.


[1] - http://gtkperf.sourceforge.net/

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