Re: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft
Hello, I created more or less completed sketch of widgets and added bottom panel. I am well aware that some of the widgets are just too big and need to be smaller in the final version (most notably scroll bar and equaliser). So only notification is left to sketch. After I make it I think I will move to the second stage - adjusting and polishing - and would welcome everyone willing to help by comments, suggestions, direct contribution, etc. Thanks to your comments, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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looking good so far no critics from me this time. 2007/6/16, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I created more or less completed sketch of widgets and added bottom panel. I am well aware that some of the widgets are just too big and need to be smaller in the final version (most notably scroll bar and equaliser). So only notification is left to sketch. After I make it I think I will move to the second stage - adjusting and polishing - and would welcome everyone willing to help by comments, suggestions, direct contribution, etc. Thanks to your comments, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft
Seems I just finished 1st stage. Mockup is more or less complete. Metacity, GTK, notify, panel - all sketched. I see the future development more or less this way: 2nd Stage (starting now) Gathering comments, suggestions, improvements, additional sources etc. to the mockup. I hope some will join my efforts in this stage (as some have already done by their valuable comments and suggestions) and help me polish the mockup... 3rd Stage Creating the real themes. I can learn how to do Metacity / KWM / GTK / QT(4) / Libnotify / etc theming, but I would be glad if someone who already has the know-how help me with creating it. Final Stage Polishing, final adjustments, testing. Thanks, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Hi, so I did think it, good work! JJM 2007/6/14, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On request from Jiri Jakub Masek I made new set of buttons (I made the right corner of a window clickable, so that focus can be assigned by clicking on it), on request from some people even make yet darker the dark side, and made a very incomplete sketch of widgets (currently incomplete menu, toolbars, status bar and progress bar). I don't have much free time lately, so the progress will be rather slow... Please bear in mind that these are first sketches and colouring is meant to be adjusted after majority of widgets is prepared to better fit together with the rest and to look nice to as many people as possible. And the stage of adjusting I would like to be more community driven - i.e. more direct contributors and more prereviewers and I would also consider it final stage before the real theme making will start. Thanks for comments, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- I'm still learning English... Jiří Jakub Mašek - Mr Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union http://jjm.xf.cz ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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looking good so far. and that soft orange bar looks good on it`s own but not with that blue wallpaper... in this case i would pick one of those blue bars. 2007/6/11, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I made my today's last sketches. I played a little with one of the blue panels and created new mockup. I also tried all the panels again the Fedora 7 wallpaper, Echo icons and the darker metacity and picked two (and created the three I talked about) panel mockups. I updated the wiki [1] and also added smaller previews of how those panels look with the stuff around. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft
Martin Sourada wrote: as Mark did I also start a new thread concerning a theme I started to make. References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft Why all the themes proposed use such a bright blue for the title bar? Thanks $DEITY now is easy to customize the theme and change this color... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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I added a darker version for consideration. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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I added three new sets of buttons for consideration. They are all based od Máirín's and Luya's mockups. Comments welcome, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 15:02 +0200, Mark wrote: that last button set is exactly what i had in mind for my theme :) it just doesn`t seem to fit right so i left it out. in your case it also doesn`t seem to fit the theme.. but the attempt is nice. Yep, they look very interesting, but as majority of the other ones, don't fit there somehow... About the darker window. that`s looks alot better!! :) I thought it too when I first tried it. :) IMO it goes better with the button colours I used... About the taskbar.. i like the blue background of the Applications but other than that i don`t really like the taskbar.. perhaps it looks better when you blend in the test color a little? Maybe you are right, as I tested different hues, saturations and brightnesses I grow to like this one, but it might be that I look too much on it :) What test colour do you mean? Do you mean I should add more blue, or make it brighter/darker, or less/more saturated? Or is the test colour reference meant to the yellow-orange I talked about? Good luck, Mark. Thanks for your comments, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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test is a typo. it was meant to be: text resulting in: perhaps it looks better when you blend in the text color a little? 2007/6/11, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 15:02 +0200, Mark wrote: that last button set is exactly what i had in mind for my theme :) it just doesn`t seem to fit right so i left it out. in your case it also doesn`t seem to fit the theme.. but the attempt is nice. Yep, they look very interesting, but as majority of the other ones, don't fit there somehow... About the darker window. that`s looks alot better!! :) I thought it too when I first tried it. :) IMO it goes better with the button colours I used... About the taskbar.. i like the blue background of the Applications but other than that i don`t really like the taskbar.. perhaps it looks better when you blend in the test color a little? Maybe you are right, as I tested different hues, saturations and brightnesses I grow to like this one, but it might be that I look too much on it :) What test colour do you mean? Do you mean I should add more blue, or make it brighter/darker, or less/more saturated? Or is the test colour reference meant to the yellow-orange I talked about? Good luck, Mark. Thanks for your comments, Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:46 +0200, Mark wrote: test is a typo. it was meant to be: text resulting in: perhaps it looks better when you blend in the text color a little? Well, that makes sense :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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I put together more panel sketches. There are two blue panels (those I like most), three blue but less saturated one orange-yellow and one completely gray. Comments welcome, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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now that third one looks real good :D the soft orange bar. that really seems to fit well. the blue ones are nice but it will give that bar a little to much blue... perhaps that looks even better of you make the Applications background in that soft orange theme? my vote is for the soft orange bar ^_^ 2007/6/11, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I put together more panel sketches. There are two blue panels (those I like most), three blue but less saturated one orange-yellow and one completely gray. Comments welcome, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Well, another I made another pack of sketches. This time I focused on the variant with thin borders, so I left the first one untouched. There are different buttons in the thin borders variant as I wanted to test how will it look. I made three another button sketches, however I most like the current one and I am not at all satisfied with the last two - it was just a test... I updated the wiki page [1], so you find all I just talked about there. It seems to me, that the final stage of WM theme mockups is drawing to an end, as I have finally drawn some buttons I quite like :) What do you think of it? Comments on thin/thick border, button style, colouring, usability, etc are more than welcome. Also, I noticed Nicolas's mail about Alison metacity theme, and the way how the buttons are handled there made me think, whether it would be better if the buttons were done that way... I will investigate this case later. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Oke lets start with what i like :) - Thin borders are good - window decorations itself (without the buttons) are good What i don`t like - all the buttons you made so far.. The reason for the buttons.. they somehow just doesn`t seem to fit in the decoration itself. i don`t really know how to make that better.. It seems to me, that the final stage of WM theme mockups is drawing to an end, as I have finally drawn some buttons I quite like :) not really unless your not gonna make a taskbar and menubar stuff. 2007/6/10, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, another I made another pack of sketches. This time I focused on the variant with thin borders, so I left the first one untouched. There are different buttons in the thin borders variant as I wanted to test how will it look. I made three another button sketches, however I most like the current one and I am not at all satisfied with the last two - it was just a test... I updated the wiki page [1], so you find all I just talked about there. It seems to me, that the final stage of WM theme mockups is drawing to an end, as I have finally drawn some buttons I quite like :) What do you think of it? Comments on thin/thick border, button style, colouring, usability, etc are more than welcome. Also, I noticed Nicolas's mail about Alison metacity theme, and the way how the buttons are handled there made me think, whether it would be better if the buttons were done that way... I will investigate this case later. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 15:07 +0200, Mark wrote: Oke lets start with what i like :) - Thin borders are good - window decorations itself (without the buttons) are good What i don`t like - all the buttons you made so far.. The reason for the buttons.. they somehow just doesn`t seem to fit in the decoration itself. i don`t really know how to make that better.. Yep, agreed, I like the current buttons as they are, but they just don't fit the rest of the theme somehow... I have now in head two or three more types, will see, how it will work... It seems to me, that the final stage of WM theme mockups is drawing to an end, as I have finally drawn some buttons I quite like :) not really unless your not gonna make a taskbar and menubar stuff. Nope, I am drawing finally to the Window Manager mockup end. AFAIK in GNOME menubar is part of GTK theme... And task bar I dunno yet where does it falls, but I will probably make it after I finish the window decorations... I am gonna to make whole theme, but part by part, not everything at the same time :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Well, yet another batch of buttons... Please look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft there are currently 8 sets of buttons, while two of them are listed twice (the second incarnation is with pressed buttons). Comments welcome :) Thanks, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 16:16 +0200, Mark wrote: i would go for that last one.. (the lower right one) but i think it`s better to either drop the 3 different color idea or make them in a soft color. Yes, it fits the rest best of all. I think I will choose this one and polish it as time goes... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Le dimanche 10 juin 2007 à 16:51 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : Le dimanche 10 juin 2007 à 16:16 +0200, Mark a écrit : i would go for that last one.. (the lower right one) but i think it`s better to either drop the 3 different color idea or make them in a soft color. or play on mouseover/click for brighter colours Also it's probably possible to play on the horizontal line separating the buttons, it needn't be strictly straight, maybe it's possible to curve its ends slightly and add an horizontal etch to remind a fedora f. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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I put together today's last batch of sketches. As Nicolas suggested I tried to explore the f style of the horizontal etches, but even though I like the idea I really don't like how the buttons look like. Also, I made two set of sketches with thin borders, one with buttons that that I like most and one with buttons I was suggested to use on fedoraforum. I still stay with the colour idea, however if a general opinion would be to stick with blue buttons I can use them... And I made first sketch of top panel, and added it to the picture with my favourite buttons. I started with yellow-orange hue of the panel, as it nicely matches blue hues, but I wasn´t content with it and returned to light blue... Comments welcome. Thanks, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Le dimanche 10 juin 2007 à 23:32 +0200, Martin Sourada a écrit : I put together today's last batch of sketches. As Nicolas suggested I tried to explore the f style of the horizontal etches, but even though I like the idea I really don't like how the buttons look like. You're right, my idea sucks, however I rather like the last shape variant -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Sourada a écrit : I put together today's last batch of sketches. As Nicolas suggested I tried to explore the f style of the horizontal etches, but even though I like the idea I really don't like how the buttons look like. Also, I made two set of sketches with thin borders, one with buttons that that I like most and one with buttons I was suggested to use on fedoraforum. I still stay with the colour idea, however if a general opinion would be to stick with blue buttons I can use them... I personally like the third and fourth column[1] design of the button for usability. I designed a draft of button so you can add on your idea.[2] I think thin border for the window is more elegant than thick. You can also view my sketch about window[3]. [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft [2]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/Sandbox [3]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/MetacityConcept Luya -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGbH1da10Jb0NOz+ERAnpDAJ0Y1SNVO2fwgEJU0DIEI8KlwkU4kwCeJV+y 4VaSo8Q3uRMb7jmWMIkn+k4= =GNip -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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looking good!! keep up the good job may the best one win ^_^ for the suggestions.. the only think i can think of right now is to make the minimize, maximize and close buttons loss candy/toy like.. btw no taskbar? 2007/6/9, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, as Mark did I also start a new thread concerning a theme I started to make. I think the theme should be composed of window manager theme, gtk/qt/qt4 widgets theme and notification theme (I hope I didn't missed anything). It is aimed to match echo icon theme, to be easy for eyes, and to be easy to use. I created a draft wiki page under my personal page [1]. Every comments, suggestions etc. are more then welcome. Also, as I included the svg sources I encourage everybody to improve it or make something for it, that isn't made yet. Currently I made only window manager theme mockup. And of course, more info is one the wiki page [1] as well. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 20:45 +0200, Mark wrote: looking good!! keep up the good job may the best one win ^_^ for the suggestions.. the only think i can think of right now is to make the minimize, maximize and close buttons loss candy/toy like.. Yep, I too don't feel quite satisfied with them, but currently I have no idea how to improve it other than abandon the idea of different colouring... but I will see... btw no taskbar? Not yet, I am starting with window manager theme, then I'd like to make gtk/qt theme and then the rest... And I am still not determined whether I will make two or only one panel (I myself prefer two-pane layout, but I see KDE folks usually does not)... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 23:02 +0200, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 20:59 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 20:45 +0200, Mark wrote: looking good!! keep up the good job may the best one win ^_^ for the suggestions.. the only think i can think of right now is to make the minimize, maximize and close buttons loss candy/toy like.. Yep, I too don't feel quite satisfied with them, but currently I have no idea how to improve it other than abandon the idea of different colouring... but I will see... btw no taskbar? Not yet, I am starting with window manager theme, then I'd like to make gtk/qt theme and then the rest... And I am still not determined whether I will make two or only one panel (I myself prefer two-pane layout, but I see KDE folks usually does not)... Don't get carried away... panel layout is not part of a theme. No, it isn't, yet it could be part of default fedora look, IMO, but that's rather question for desktop list, I think. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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my exams are just over so you are gonna do your stuff in Metacity and i in KDE... perhaps we could do eachothers themes in the other window manager aswell? so: you do my theme in Metacity nad i do yours in KDE (i`ve never made any theme in KDE ^_^) 2007/6/10, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 23:55 +0200, Mark wrote: i`m looking forward to the mockups just curious.. on what window manager are you gonna test this first? kde or gnome? Metacity, I am not at all familiar with KDE :) But, because I actually should study, as I have my first exam in Wednesday (from mathematical analysis), I don't think I will get soon over the sketches... ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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yea you can start right away ^_- i will probably need to look over the same documentation aswell.. (that`s the boring part) 2007/6/10, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 00:13 +0200, Mark wrote: my exams are just over so you are gonna do your stuff in Metacity and i in KDE... perhaps we could do eachothers themes in the other window manager aswell? so: you do my theme in Metacity nad i do yours in KDE (i`ve never made any theme in KDE ^_^) Hm... I though I could learn something... my vacations probably starts at the beginning of Jule and I will have plenty of time until October, so I considered that I could also learn how to make a KDE theme (and I also considered gxine hacking, it lacks some features I'd like to have). But as Metacity goes, I did only one theme so far, and it was only incomplete modification of another theme, I think I'll need to read docs... But I'll need also to learn GTK and QT theming for the other part of the theme... Well, at least my vacations won't be boring :D But if you would want to make your theme by me in Metacity nonetheless, I will gladly do (after I finish the exams). ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
