Re: go-home echo icon concept
Diana Fong wrote: I also include an additional shadow to overlapping objects, such as 'drive-optical.' This is to create a bit of depth, while also help to visually separate/identify the overlapping objects. The color for this also varies depending on how dark or light the back object is. However, a starting point could also be #33 or more accurately #2D2D2D at 50%-75% blur size of 2-3px. As I usually insert the shadows after creating the vector icon shapes and so I do not have the blur info. Just as an example, for 48x48 px GNOME icons is suggested a shadow added with GIMP with 4 pixel distance, 4 pixel blur, 40% opacity - http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/icons-design.html That is a shadow I personally feel a little too light. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Martin Sourada wrote: Teoretically, from the position of the imaginary light source we might guess, that it is time around noon. So the shadows - epsecially their opacity should reflect this. Thus they should not be very dark. Next, I would pick the one of the more"massive" icons (because it would cast more shadow than a smaller one) and choose the base values for it. The darkest would be nearest the place where the icon touches the imaginary ground. For that purpose, I think, could serve e.g. 'video-display'. But how to chose the best value for that particular icon? I think we could try different values of opacity and brightness (for start grey scale would serve well) against different backrounds and pick up that which works nicest with most of them - this should be the one that resembles most the behaviour of real shadow IMO. Than we should decide how much of the shape of the icon we want to save in its shadow. Looking at the icons I would suppose that only simplified outline. Finally I would choose how blurry we wont it to be - that has a lot to do with the shape preservation I think. In other cases the shadow should be more transparent and more blurry, but not much; the amount I would leave on artists. The colouring I would leave as it is suggested on wiki. I think, if we start with dark-grey or black(ish) colour values (aka $66 and $33) for the brightness and pick the desired opacity for them it might be the best, since these are on Echo Icon Pallette. Also the decision would thus simplify to choosing just one out of two colours and opacity for darkest shadow. As per your suggestion, I looked at the various shadows and here are some numbers that might help...for 'video-display' I used #2D2D2D at 75% as the darkest. That color is closest to #33. For objects that do not touch the ground (as with 'list-remove') the opacity is closer to 15% if still using #33. Of course, we can change these if it's found not to be useful when tested against the various backgrounds. As in my examples, I've only tested against white (which I took to account for the light color of panels and window browsers) and a dark gray (which accounts for darker wallpapers and possibly dark window borders). Obviously, a more conclusive test could be conducted here if someone would like to take it on. I also include an additional shadow to overlapping objects, such as 'drive-optical.' This is to create a bit of depth, while also help to visually separate/identify the overlapping objects. The color for this also varies depending on how dark or light the back object is. However, a starting point could also be #33 or more accurately #2D2D2D at 50%-75% blur size of 2-3px. As I usually insert the shadows after creating the vector icon shapes and so I do not have the blur info. As evident with the existing icons, I've not tried to preserve the exact shape of the icon in the shadow. For the action icons, I've gone with more of a simple shadow below the object. With other icons, the shadow does take on a very skewed, simplified outline of the shape which often does not reflect the shape of the top of the object. Example...the shadow of 'audio-input-microphone' is mainly of the base, with only a slight hint of the top microphone. Diana Fong --- Red Hat Visual Designer | Desktop Group ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Teoretically, from the position of the imaginary light source we might guess, that it is time around noon. So the shadows - epsecially their opacity should reflect this. Thus they should not be very dark. Next, I would pick the one of the more"massive" icons (because it would cast more shadow than a smaller one) and choose the base values for it. The darkest would be nearest the place where the icon touches the imaginary ground. For that purpose, I think, could serve e.g. 'video-display'. But how to chose the best value for that particular icon? I think we could try different values of opacity and brightness (for start grey scale would serve well) against different backrounds and pick up that which works nicest with most of them - this should be the one that resembles most the behaviour of real shadow IMO. Than we should decide how much of the shape of the icon we want to save in its shadow. Looking at the icons I would suppose that only simplified outline. Finally I would choose how blurry we wont it to be - that has a lot to do with the shape preservation I think. In other cases the shadow should be more transparent and more blurry, but not much; the amount I would leave on artists. The colouring I would leave as it is suggested on wiki. I think, if we start with dark-grey or black(ish) colour values (aka $66 and $33) for the brightness and pick the desired opacity for them it might be the best, since these are on Echo Icon Pallette. Also the decision would thus simplify to choosing just one out of two colours and opacity for darkest shadow. Diana Fong napsal(a): Looking at various icons created in the past, it seems...*squints*...that the darkest color is semitransparent. This is not really that noticeable and some might not be semitransparent (but that could be fixed to fit the rule we come up with for consistency). So let's conclude that it is semitransparent. What then, are the cases and values? Also, what should be the opacity value of the darkest area? Care to take a first crack at breaking these down? Thanks, Diana Fong --- Red Hat Visual Designer | Desktop Group ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Martin Sourada wrote: Maybe we should at least consider whether the darkest color at the first end should be solid or semitransparent. If it would be semitranpsparent than the amount of lightness in that point could be handled only by the transparency. As it is in real world - when the object which casts the shadow is nearer than the shadow is darker and less blurry, in oposite way a light find its way (due to diffraction and dispersion) and allows us to see more details of background and less details in a shadow. So we could in that case decide the basic values - when the shadow is casted from a solid object directly above - and the other values simply would be an alternation of these - like in the case of glass more degree of transparency. Do you think this could work well? I think shadows for an icon set should be consistent. Looking at various icons created in the past, it seems...*squints*...that the darkest color is semitransparent. This is not really that noticeable and some might not be semitransparent (but that could be fixed to fit the rule we come up with for consistency). So let's conclude that it is semitransparent. What then, are the cases and values? Also, what should be the opacity value of the darkest area? Care to take a first crack at breaking these down? Thanks, Diana Fong --- Red Hat Visual Designer | Desktop Group ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Maybe we should at least consider whether the darkest color at the first end should be solid or semitransparent. If it would be semitranpsparent than the amount of lightness in that point could be handled only by the transparency. As it is in real world - when the object which casts the shadow is nearer than the shadow is darker and less blurry, in oposite way a light find its way (due to diffraction and dispersion) and allows us to see more details of background and less details in a shadow. So we could in that case decide the basic values - when the shadow is casted from a solid object directly above - and the other values simply would be an alternation of these - like in the case of glass more degree of transparency. Do you think this could work well? I think shadows for an icon set should be consistent. Diana Fong wrote: The shadow, quickly examined, is a sort of gradient with the darkest (sometimes solid) color at one end (often closest/touching the object) and a transition to transparent pixels at the other thus allowing the sense of integration with the panel, background, and such. The general guideline provided was to describe my approach of using a dark gray as the starting point for the shadow's gradient. When creating the initial icons I often found myself creating far too dark shadows if I started with black. When creating several of these icons a day, I easily found my shadows getting darker and darker. Thus starting with a dark gray, instead of black, helped me take care of this problem and thus my posted suggestion to other contributors. What should the values be? Colors and shapes are relative. Artists should be encouraged to use their artistic sense in determining relative colors, with the posted palette as a base guideline. A color determined for one icon might not work as well for another, thus the value added by artists who can visually compensate and flexibly combine colors and shapes to create pieces that work both as an individual icon and as part of the whole set. An example of this is...system-search...the tilt of the object requires darker shadows near the handle and a lighter shadow cast by the glass itself. Compare this icon to any of the others that sit directly on surface, such as applications-internet, the shadows for those are slightly darker. With that said, I am not opposed to further clarifying, correcting, or expanding the initial guidelines. With specific questions such as the ones raised about Stars and Pluses, the guidelines can be made to be more detailed and informative. This is an ongoing project. Presenting works in progress, runs the risk of missing and inadequate information. However, these can be constructively discussed, proposed, and remedied. To address this specific issue, I still stand with my recommendation of starting with a dark gray instead of black. Due to the blur aspect of the shadow, it seemed somewhat obvious that the shadow would be semitransparent...but this can be specifically added in the guidelines for additional clarity. As for the exact value of dark gray...perhaps Luya can propose (and Martin or others can confirm) a few Hex Values, since the shadows on the emotion icons seem to be good starting points. However, I would like to stress again, that these numbers should really be used as references, allowing artists the flexibility to tweak as appropriate from icon to icon. Diana Fong --- Red Hat Visual Designer | Desktop Group ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Martin Sourada wrote: I folowed the guidlines and there is said: "The shadow is formed by lines from the isometric grid. It is appears primarily behind the object; as well as a bit in front of and under the object. Do not to use black, as it is too harsh and does not scale well...dark gray is acceptable." Do you think, that using black with transparency would be better than using dark-grey without transparency (save for the blur effect which adds transparency, of course)? And yes, it would be good to document the certain values on wiki. But we must first decide which ones are the best... The shadow, quickly examined, is a sort of gradient with the darkest (sometimes solid) color at one end (often closest/touching the object) and a transition to transparent pixels at the other thus allowing the sense of integration with the panel, background, and such. The general guideline provided was to describe my approach of using a dark gray as the starting point for the shadow's gradient. When creating the initial icons I often found myself creating far too dark shadows if I started with black. When creating several of these icons a day, I easily found my shadows getting darker and darker. Thus starting with a dark gray, instead of black, helped me take care of this problem and thus my posted suggestion to other contributors. What should the values be? Colors and shapes are relative. Artists should be encouraged to use their artistic sense in determining relative colors, with the posted palette as a base guideline. A color determined for one icon might not work as well for another, thus the value added by artists who can visually compensate and flexibly combine colors and shapes to create pieces that work both as an individual icon and as part of the whole set. An example of this is...system-search...the tilt of the object requires darker shadows near the handle and a lighter shadow cast by the glass itself. Compare this icon to any of the others that sit directly on surface, such as applications-internet, the shadows for those are slightly darker. With that said, I am not opposed to further clarifying, correcting, or expanding the initial guidelines. With specific questions such as the ones raised about Stars and Pluses, the guidelines can be made to be more detailed and informative. This is an ongoing project. Presenting works in progress, runs the risk of missing and inadequate information. However, these can be constructively discussed, proposed, and remedied. To address this specific issue, I still stand with my recommendation of starting with a dark gray instead of black. Due to the blur aspect of the shadow, it seemed somewhat obvious that the shadow would be semitransparent...but this can be specifically added in the guidelines for additional clarity. As for the exact value of dark gray...perhaps Luya can propose (and Martin or others can confirm) a few Hex Values, since the shadows on the emotion icons seem to be good starting points. However, I would like to stress again, that these numbers should really be used as references, allowing artists the flexibility to tweak as appropriate from icon to icon. Diana Fong --- Red Hat Visual Designer | Desktop Group ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Martin Sourada wrote: > Ok, so I decided to put the shadow to the svg as well. I attach PNGs > for large and small sizes. SVGs can be downloaded here: > http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/echo/go-homeL.svg > http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/echo/go-homeS.svg go-home icons are now published on the echo-development wiki http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment -- ¢D0< ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Martin Sourada wrote: I folowed the guidlines and there is said: "The shadow is formed by lines from the isometric grid. It is appears primarily behind the object; as well as a bit in front of and under the object. Do not to use black, as it is too harsh and does not scale well...dark gray is acceptable." Of course not *solid* black. I think the intention is to use black with a degree of transparency, which look gray, at least this is what the other icon sets (for example Tango) do. Do you think, that using black with transparency would be better than using dark-grey without transparency (save for the blur effect which adds transparency, of course)? Definitely the shadow must have transparency, be it transparent black or transparent dark gray as the icon can be shown against a colored or textured background and it will look smooth only with transparency. And yes, it would be good to document the certain values on wiki. But we must first decide which ones are the best... The eternal question (see the "Artwork conversation" thread): who has the power to define those values? We have to wait for Diana? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
I folowed the guidlines and there is said: "The shadow is formed by lines from the isometric grid. It is appears primarily behind the object; as well as a bit in front of and under the object. Do not to use black, as it is too harsh and does not scale well...dark gray is acceptable." Do you think, that using black with transparency would be better than using dark-grey without transparency (save for the blur effect which adds transparency, of course)? And yes, it would be good to document the certain values on wiki. But we must first decide which ones are the best... Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: Ok, so I decided to put the shadow to the svg as well. I attach PNGs for large and small sizes. SVGs can be downloaded here: http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/echo/go-homeL.svg http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/echo/go-homeS.svg I would recommend you to use black instead of gray (#66) as the color of the shadow and document the values for blur and transparency in the wiki (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines) as a reference for the other icon creators. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Martin Sourada wrote: Ok, so I decided to put the shadow to the svg as well. I attach PNGs for large and small sizes. SVGs can be downloaded here: http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/echo/go-homeL.svg http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/echo/go-homeS.svg I would recommend you to use black instead of gray (#66) as the color of the shadow and document the values for blur and transparency in the wiki (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines) as a reference for the other icon creators. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Ok, so I decided to put the shadow to the svg as well. I attach PNGs for large and small sizes. SVGs can be downloaded here: http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/echo/go-homeL.svg http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/echo/go-homeS.svg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Nicu Buculei wrote: > > The shadow made with the blur filter is the proper one, fake was using > pre-0.45 ways, like the "blur edge" effect or using gradients. I used gradients for the emotes. I will plan to update them using blur filter on post F7. > > I don't think Firefox 2 not supporting blur is a blocker, the icons > are not intended to be shown as SVG by the web browser (and to enter > in details, the web server hosting he wiki is anyway improperly > configured to serve a wrong MIME Type for SVG, so you can't see SVG in > browser even if you try). > Ah, that explains why Firefox asked to download svg file. -- ¢D0< ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Without folder in order to be consistent. PNG icon can be with shadow while SVG icon can be without it. However, with Inkscape 0.45 it is possible fake a shadow because of blur effect (not supported on Firefox 2 and earlier) The shadow made with the blur filter is the proper one, fake was using pre-0.45 ways, like the "blur edge" effect or using gradients. I don't think Firefox 2 not supporting blur is a blocker, the icons are not intended to be shown as SVG by the web browser (and to enter in details, the web server hosting he wiki is anyway improperly configured to serve a wrong MIME Type for SVG, so you can't see SVG in browser even if you try). -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Martin Sourada wrote: Certainly, I can provide both png and svg. But, should I provide both with and without a folder? And, about the shadows - I saw, that svgs are usualy without shadows - is that only because inkscape didn't have the needed feature? If that is so, should I add the shadow only to the png, or to svg as well? The SVGs have no shadows because of two reasons: - Inkscape had no blur filter in a release until recently; - Diana made the first icons in Illustrator, which I don't know how create shadows (with SVG filters or embedded bitmaps, at one point it used bitmaps for blur). As Inkscape was updated to 0.45 is in Fedora 5 and 6 I believe you can safely use the blur filter in SVG. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Martin Sourada wrote: > Certainly, I can provide both png and svg. But, should I provide both > with and without a folder? And, about the shadows - I saw, that svgs > are usualy without shadows - is that only because inkscape didn't have > the needed feature? If that is so, should I add the shadow only to the > png, or to svg as well? Without folder in order to be consistent. PNG icon can be with shadow while SVG icon can be without it. However, with Inkscape 0.45 it is possible fake a shadow because of blur effect (not supported on Firefox 2 and earlier) -- ¢D0< ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Certainly, I can provide both png and svg. But, should I provide both with and without a folder? And, about the shadows - I saw, that svgs are usualy without shadows - is that only because inkscape didn't have the needed feature? If that is so, should I add the shadow only to the png, or to svg as well? Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Could you provide both png and svg so go-home can be published on the wiki? To do the shadow, follow this guideline http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Could you provide both png and svg so go-home can be published on the wiki? To do the shadow, follow this guideline http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines -- ¢D0< ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Uno Engborg wrote: I'm not quite sure if I have gotten this right. Are all the above icons supposed to mean the same thing? Yes, you got it right, all the four icons are supposed to mean the same thing. If so I would go for the house silhouette alone, without a folder. It takes much more brain processing power to recognize a house on a folder than just a plain house shape. Shapes are among the things we recognize very quickly. The house icon is the icon that has the most uniqueness in shape of the ones that you suggested. My personal opinion is that the ones with the folder looks better, but I must also agree with you, that the ones without the folder are easier recognized. Maybe the one with the folder could be used for large size and the one without the folder for small size? Another thing, the arrow somehow indicates a directional move, i.e. go back to home or go forward to home. Does this really make sense in the application? I would think that the direction from where you get to home is irrellevant in most cases. so we should not invite the user to think in terms of back and forward. So I suggest you leave out the arrow or make it point to the house in e.g. 45 degree angle. That way you could indicate move without involving allready taken concepts like "back", "forward", "up", "down" that is used elsewhere. Leaving out the arrow is probably the best option as it makes the icon less complicated, so the plain blue house is the best alternative in my oppinion. Hmm... I didn't reailze that. Just placed the arrow where it fitted best and pointed it to doors (likewise it is done in application-exit icon from Mola). Anyway, it was just an idea, it can be left out if it does not fit well with it. Thanks for your comments :-) Regards, Martin Sourada ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Martin Sourada skrev: Thanks for your critics and suggestion. I take a look at it, as you sugested, and two or three ideas came to my mind - and result are four slightly different icons. First idea is to take the house part of the user-home icon alone and change its perspective, second is to take both the folder and house and change its perspective and third idea is to add an arrow to it to signalize action. I attach pngs only, but if you want I can also supply svgs. And there are no shadows yet. Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi again, I made the icons for 16x16, 24x24 and 48x48 sizes and tried to follow echo guidlines. I attach all. What do you think? This go-home icon looks odd because it looks out of place in echo world. It will on kids theme IMHO. I suggest to take a look on user-home icon from echo so you can get some ideas. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I'm not quite sure if I have gotten this right. Are all the above icons supposed to mean the same thing? If so I would go for the house silhouette alone, without a folder. It takes much more brain processing power to recognize a house on a folder than just a plain house shape. Shapes are among the things we recognize very quickly. The house icon is the icon that has the most uniqueness in shape of the ones that you suggested. Another thing, the arrow somehow indicates a directional move, i.e. go back to home or go forward to home. Does this really make sense in the application? I would think that the direction from where you get to home is irrellevant in most cases. so we should not invite the user to think in terms of back and forward. So I suggest you leave out the arrow or make it point to the house in e.g. 45 degree angle. That way you could indicate move without involving allready taken concepts like "back", "forward", "up", "down" that is used elsewhere. Leaving out the arrow is probably the best option as it makes the icon less complicated, so the plain blue house is the best alternative in my oppinion. Regards Uno Engborg smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Thanks for your critics and suggestion. I take a look at it, as you sugested, and two or three ideas came to my mind - and result are four slightly different icons. First idea is to take the house part of the user-home icon alone and change its perspective, second is to take both the folder and house and change its perspective and third idea is to add an arrow to it to signalize action. I attach pngs only, but if you want I can also supply svgs. And there are no shadows yet. Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi again, I made the icons for 16x16, 24x24 and 48x48 sizes and tried to follow echo guidlines. I attach all. What do you think? This go-home icon looks odd because it looks out of place in echo world. It will on kids theme IMHO. I suggest to take a look on user-home icon from echo so you can get some ideas. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: go-home echo icon concept
Quoting Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi again, > > I made the icons for 16x16, 24x24 and 48x48 sizes and tried to follow > echo guidlines. I attach all. What do you think? > This go-home icon looks odd because it looks out of place in echo world. It will on kids theme IMHO. I suggest to take a look on user-home icon from echo so you can get some ideas. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list