Re: F10 themes: Round 1 closed, time for feedback and Round 2
invinXble ftw it's been my favourite since it hit the mailing list. conceptually the steampunk/gears and all that old/new sci fi ideas have potential as well but IMHO invinXble is something i'd be really proud to have on my desktop, and to show to friends. - klaatu On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the first round for F10 themes just ended [1], I wrote to my (infamous) blog an article listing all the proposals, including thumbnails and descriptions and asked for feedback (noting that the preferred way is this mailing list). Also posted about it on FedoraForum [3]. In not necessarily unrelated news, we can vote for the F10 release name: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef10 [1] - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-July/msg00184.html [2] - http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/07/fedora-10-themes-round-1.html [3] - http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1050722 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- --- uzu linukso. subtenu libera programaro. kotizu al http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/ogg.xml ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F10 themes: Round 1 closed, time for feedback and Round 2
Since the first round for F10 themes just ended [1], I wrote to my (infamous) blog an article listing all the proposals, including thumbnails and descriptions and asked for feedback (noting that the preferred way is this mailing list). Also posted about it on FedoraForum [3]. In not necessarily unrelated news, we can vote for the F10 release name: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef10 [1] - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-July/msg00184.html [2] - http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/07/fedora-10-themes-round-1.html [3] - http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1050722 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
Björn Persson wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 theme: Gears http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears You dismissed the blue paper version as not that realistic. I disagree. It looks just like a blueprint, which is much more realistic than blue ink on old yellowed paper. Blueprints fit perfectly in the old technology concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint I eased the wording, indeed, it fir the blueprint definition but I think it is a departure for the original steampunk target. And I don't want to dismiss it, I want more of a confirmation/infirmation about it being on the right track. For everybody - I tried to put some blue back in the Gears concept: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears#head-7ac71eb00a599f5ef6eb0f252c2bf35d01a228d5 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 theme: Gears http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears You dismissed the blue paper version as not that realistic. I disagree. It looks just like a blueprint, which is much more realistic than blue ink on old yellowed paper. Blueprints fit perfectly in the old technology concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint Björn Persson ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
Pavel Shevchuk wrote: We would be happy to have any piece of artwork that can be used to theme KDE. Right now we have problem with KDM, which needs proper backrgound image, and svgs posted in wiki can't be rendered properly by kdm's svg engine But neither GDM/GNOME does not use those SVGs, PNGs exported at various resolutions with Inkscape are used instead (technically, SVG could be used, but for performance reason and to manually fine tune all the details, PNG is preferred). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
Rahul Sundaram sundaram at fedoraproject.org writes: Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a symbol for a long time now. http://www.enlightenment.org/ KDE too. I think the KDE project won't be too happy about seeing a gear-themed GNOME in Fedora 10. ;-) Kevin Kofler ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F9 KDM [Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1]
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 15:55 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: We would be happy to have any piece of artwork that can be used to theme KDE. Right now we have problem with KDM, which needs proper backrgound image, and svgs posted in wiki can't be rendered properly by kdm's svg engine Then can you use PNGs? But, if you need to use SVGs I bet that opening them in Inkscape and resaving them as Plain SVGs would make the rendering by the kdm's SVG engine better. However, it uses a fair bit of advanced effects like blur, which takes quite long time to render, so I'd advice you to use PNGs instead. Btw. I might be able to do a sketch for KDM (real theme is a no-go for me, I don't have neither experience nor KDM) if you are interested, I just need to know, how much you are able to do :) Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 theme: Gears http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears The focus of this theme is technology: technology advancement is one of Fedora's main goals and gears are a classic metaphor for technology. A secondary message of the theme is the golden era of Fedora: we are so confident in our distro that we think Fedora 10 is (will be) the distro marking the start of the golden age of Linux (and, of course, the best Fedora yet. The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a good technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and also something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 theme: Gears http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears The focus of this theme is technology: technology advancement is one of Fedora's main goals and gears are a classic metaphor for technology. A secondary message of the theme is the golden era of Fedora: we are so confident in our distro that we think Fedora 10 is (will be) the distro marking the start of the golden age of Linux (and, of course, the best Fedora yet. The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a good technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and also something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a symbol for a long time now. http://www.enlightenment.org/ Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a good technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and also something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a symbol for a long time now. OK, we may not be the firs, maybe exclude the original wird from the talk. BTW, those are gears or a sun? (sun - light - enlightenment) Do they use gears in desktop art? That seems to be right. They look somewhat similar but they probably denote sun rather than gears. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Jan 10, 2008 12:53 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may be even a bar code). This is NOT a good idea. The whole point of the smolt ids are that they are suppose to be somewhat anonymous. If the id numbers are encoded into the desktop, by default, without people's knowledge, then people doing screencasts using the default desktops are essentially leaking smolt id information without their express knowledge. You want to use another random algorithm based on system entropy to produce uniqueness..fine... but don't use the smolt id as the basis of the uniquness for the desktop image generation in any way please. Considering the choices made concerning how smolt operates I would have a real hard time support seeing any such smolt id based graphics generation being shipped in fedora. It's not self-consistent with the effort put into smolt to get the id's anonymous. -jefHey instead of the smolt id, for US citizens lets encoded the social security number into the desktop imagespaleta ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Máirín Duffy a écrit : - I think the pattern is very interesting - I am not sure I fully understand the cultural context behind these patterns though. Can you explain their meaning / connotations a bit more? There are a variation of meaning depending the complexity of the pattern. They are based on natural element such as footprint, animal shape to name a few. There is 150 different patterns, each with their own name. What is the cloth used for? Decoration, ceremony, funeral ritual, gift and money. Note that shoowa is also a velvet. Who makes it? Both men and women (woven and embroiled with no visible stitches respectively) Women from Kuba people including the sub group with the same name (Shoowa) from Democratic of Congo. Henri Matisse design was also inspired from the Kuba. Do the patterns symbolized anything? They symbolize the rank of the makers depending the complexity of the patterns. What is the cloth made out of? A shoowa is made of fiber of raffia palm as the basis. Coloured versions use plant dye while royal version has additional small shells. Do any of these have implications that relate to Fedora? It represents the diversity of skills, balance and rhythm from the community balance and rhythm. The ideas are to create a variety of geometrical pattern corresponding to the days of week. It does not have to be overly complicate hence the reason to use basic shape instead. More information is available on www.shoowa.com and there is series of images of shoowa velvet displaying various patterns. http://www.hamillgallery.com/KUBA/KUBAShoowa/KubaS.html Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
I have an idea, since we don't want the code to be put on the screen because that'll comprimise the user's privacy, and all, why don't we create a small pattern that'll change the background depending on the code, well, parts of the code. I don't know how the code looks like but I'll just assume it's something like this: 67c1e19532a4c47461486a5d8ad3ac74 (which is Fedora 9's md5sum :D In this case we can create an algorithm that does the following (it's just an example): 1. Takes the first 3 digits as a HEX number and % it by 360 and then rotate the shape that many degrees. 2. Take the fourth and the fivth digits and increase the R by the amount of the fourth digit if the fifth digit % 2 is positive. 3. Take the sixth and the seventh digits and do the same for G. 4. Take the eighth and the ninth digits and do the same for B. etc... This way, the usrer's privacy won't be comprimised, and we can still brag about giving the users different backgrounds, which is somethig that no other distro have done (just a guess). What do you think? -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
I have an idea, since we don't want the code to be put on the screen because that'll comprimise the user's privacy, and all, why don't we create a small pattern that'll change the background depending on the code, well, parts of the code. I don't know how the code looks like but I'll just assume it's something like this: 67c1e19532a4c47461486a5d8ad3ac74 (which is Fedora 9's md5sum :D In this case we can create an algorithm that does the following (it's just an example): 1. Takes the first 3 digits as a HEX number and % it by 360 and then rotate the shape that many degrees. 2. Take the fourth and the fivth digits and increase the R by the amount of the fourth digit if the fifth digit % 2 is positive. 3. Take the sixth and the seventh digits and do the same for G. 4. Take the eighth and the ninth digits and do the same for B. etc... This way, the usrer's privacy won't be comprimised, and we can still brag about giving the users different backgrounds, which is somethig that no other distro have done (just a guess). What do you think? ^^ I think every goodie which makes the maschine (a little more) unique is good, the user who sits in front of the maschine think and maybe say: HEY, this is MY 'number' nobody else in the world has this Wallpaper/Background like me ... but he will find several other Fedora user which have a likewise. This identifies you then to be part of a greater community :-) Just my thoughts Gerold ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Round 1
The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): Listed chronologically: - CODE 9TO9, by Jiri http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/CODE9TO9 - Freedom, by Michael http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom - Waves, by Martin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night Electric Sphere, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere - At Last, by Andrew http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/AtLast - Shoowa, by Luya http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa I also blogged about them - http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/01/fedora-9-themes-round-1.html Please comment. My favorite is Waves, seconded by Freedom and Night. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
hey there, I'm not really sure to be here on the correct list but I like to tell you something personal :-) I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked the 9TO9 most ... and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than somebody can realize my thoughts. When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? Just my thoughts and ideas and also not really sure to post correct here. Feel free to post it in the correct ML Thanks and ... just my five cents GeroldKa The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): Listed chronologically: - CODE 9TO9, by Jiri http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/CODE9TO9 - Freedom, by Michael http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom - Waves, by Martin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night Electric Sphere, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere - At Last, by Andrew http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/AtLast - Shoowa, by Luya http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa I also blogged about them - http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/01/fedora-9-themes-round-1.html Please comment. My favorite is Waves, seconded by Freedom and Night. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Gerold wrote: I'm not really sure to be here on the correct list but I like to tell you something personal :-) You give feed-back about one of the proposals, so you are at least partly on-topic. I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked the 9TO9 most ... and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than somebody can realize my thoughts. When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may be even a bar code). And I think I got an idea about the implementation: we can have a SVG as background. Is easy to modify that SVG file, is XML, but you can do a test search and replace (with sed).So I believe it can be done (but I suspect the current Nautilus won't notice the SVG update on the fly). Just my thoughts and ideas and also not really sure to post correct here. Feel free to post it in the correct ML -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Jan 10, 2008 1:53 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerold wrote: I'm not really sure to be here on the correct list but I like to tell you something personal :-) You give feed-back about one of the proposals, so you are at least partly on-topic. I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked the 9TO9 most ... and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than somebody can realize my thoughts. When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? Wow! That would be indeed cool, to have your own code somewhere (it may be even a bar code). And I think I got an idea about the implementation: we can have a SVG as background. Is easy to modify that SVG file, is XML, but you can do a test search and replace (with sed).So I believe it can be done (but I suspect the current Nautilus won't notice the SVG update on the fly). I like this idea too... About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. Just my thoughts and ideas and also not really sure to post correct here. Feel free to post it in the correct ML -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Thursday 10 January 2008 15:45:51 Nicu Buculei wrote: Laith Juwaidah wrote: Gerold wrote: I took a look at the below listed round1 URLs and I personally tiked the 9TO9 most ... and I have also a (in my eyes) fantastic idea but also not sure than somebody can realize my thoughts. When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. PNG or SVG, this is an implementation detail, the important part would be to get traction from the desktop guys to accept such a change. And as implementation details, I feel working with PNGs is more complicated: you will need installed something like ImageMagik (which is not available by default in a desktop install) to be able to generate the image PNG and do the composition, with SVG is just a text search and replace. Sorry :D I just thought that SVGs can't be used as backgrounds, my bad. -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night this is #1 Electric Sphere, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere and this is #2 for me. Electris sphere would be much better if done in 3D and not in vectors IMHO. Valent. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Laith Juwaidah wrote: About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. PNG or SVG, this is an implementation detail, the important part would be to get traction from the desktop guys to accept such a change. And as implementation details, I feel working with PNGs is more complicated: you will need installed something like ImageMagik (which is not available by default in a desktop install) to be able to generate the image PNG and do the composition, with SVG is just a text search and replace. Hmm, maybe when the profile is sent up to smolt, the image is generated on the server and the system grabs it? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Laith Juwaidah wrote: About the implementation, we won't need to change the code every period of time, it'll be set only once when the system is first installed... Probably changed in the four pictures (assuming the color will change too), then exported to png and those pngs will be used just like they used to in F8. PNG or SVG, this is an implementation detail, the important part would be to get traction from the desktop guys to accept such a change. And as implementation details, I feel working with PNGs is more complicated: you will need installed something like ImageMagik (which is not available by default in a desktop install) to be able to generate the image PNG and do the composition, with SVG is just a text search and replace. Hmm, maybe when the profile is sent up to smolt, the image is generated on the server and the system grabs it? ~m Máirín, WONDERFULL idea, so we also get the people who installed counted with the exclusivly, unique and personalized Wallpaper with the own account ... I like that idea very much; and also Mike is happy to get some more smolt-sender :-) Who will take the lead to bring such an idea to Max / Mike or whom it may concern? regards Gerold ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Gerold wrote: I like that idea very much; and also Mike is happy to get some more smolt-sender :-) Who will take the lead to bring such an idea to Max / Mike or whom it may concern? You, as you where the one you came with the idea in the first place :p Seriously, this is hot the things works: you don't have to wait for anyone else, take the initiative and follow it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Hi Nicu, Thanks for writing this up :) Here are some of my thoughts on the round 1 proposals: Nicu Buculei wrote: The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): Listed chronologically: - CODE 9TO9, by Jiri http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/CODE9TO9 - It's an interesting concept but I think visually it could be more exciting if the 9-pointed shape was shown from a different angle other than straight on. - The colors used are sort of towards the more pastel-ish blue which is what we used for f8 so I think maybe more bold colors might be good just so there is more of a change from f8. - We traditionally do not have version numbers in the artwork so I don't know if the one with just the 9 is a good idea. I don't think the graphic needs numbers to 'explain itself' - rather it's an interesting idea to have a 9-pointed star shape as the focus of a series of abstract visual compositions. - One thing I am happy about with this concept is that beyond the number 9, it does relate to Fedora: 'endless' and 'cyclic' pretty much represent 'infinity'. - What does algorithm 9483726159 mean? - One last thing, while the shape is endless and cyclic, when I look at it those aren't the first ideas that come to mind, maybe there is a better way to visually express that - maybe having arrow heads or some pointed/directional shapes in the pattern? - Freedom, by Michael http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom - I think the concept of freedom is great but I am not sure that these visualizations are the best way to communicate that idea. Usage of imagery about someone escaping being chained up don't always evoke ideas about 'the good guy was wrongfully jailed but now he is free.' It might make people thing about escaped 'bad guys' too, or maybe it will make people think Fedora is a bunch of escaped software pirates. (See what I mean?) It's not the most positive imagery as is right now, but your last sketch, the one with the window - I think that one is the best one, as it puts some emphasis on the positives of freedom. I would make that window bigger and bolder... or maybe the entire focus. - As per the above comment, I think maybe this idea could merge with the At Last theme... which I think visually depicts the idea of freedom but in a more positive way. - The chain sketch does remind me a bit of the Fedora DNA theme. Actually at one point I did a series of paintings, each to depict a different Fedora concept, and the one I did for 'freedom' showed a chain made out of the Fedora infinity logo getting broken. I don't actually have access to that graphic right now but if I can find it I will send it to you. I did have some struggles with it visually to make it look like a broken chain - if I just drew a broken chain without using the infinity symbol to do it then it wouldn't relate to the other paintings in the set (which were entirely constructed of Fedora logo parts, see [1] and [2]) - Waves, by Martin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - I really like the idea of this one - the main reason is that waves/water are very natural, and we have gotten a lot of feedback about how folks would like to see more 'natural' themes in Fedora. GNOME upstream also has been working to bring 'nature' to the desktop so it also fits nicely with what they are doing. But it is 'nature' our way - water is symbolized by blue as is Fedora. - This is very calming imagery - especially the first sketch. Very good for a computer which may at times be quite frustrating. :) It really reminds me of a Japanese zen garden (as I mentioned on the page) and the pattern of the stones. - I *love* *love* *love* the suggestion from TrondDanielsen - I think it would be cool if the pattern would change during the day to make the waves propagate outward just like the current theme changes colors during the day. That would be SO awesome - I think the 2nd sketch is the weakest. It seems very mathematical and abstract, and I guess I am very excited about the idea of bringing 'nature' to a very 'unnatural' thing (a computer) so I am least enthusiastic about this one. We just had an abstract/wavy-line theme in f8 so the change the other two sketches suggest are much more exciting to me. - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night - I am not sure how this relates to Fedora conceptually at all? There doesn't seem to be an explanation? - It seems very similar to f7's theme in basic layout and I think it would be cool if we did something more fresh. - I guess I can't really say much else. :( The scene is drawn nicely but I don't see how it relates to Fedora. Electric Sphere, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere - Again I am not sure how this relates to Fedora conceptually. What is it trying to say? - At Last
Re: Round 1
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Round 1 feedback
Morning all. For purely personal reasons, (Baha'i) I like the 9to9 nine pointed star concept most. My second choice would be Mola's electric sphere for the old techno-whiz feeling, with Martin's waves running a close third for continuity and infinitely radiating idea. Hope it helps. Dan ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 10:16 +0100, Gerold wrote: When you'll install a new system, you'll get a unique (smolt-system) id-number; maybe it is possible that that id-nummer is the code shown at your dsktop?! So everybody has his own unique Desktop wallpaper/theme and also maybe with the changing color as in F8??? The thing about this is that screenshots using this background will be able to identify the specific machine. I agree that it's not a fatal problem, but it is a potential privacy violation that the end-user needs to be made aware of. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: Gerold wrote: I like that idea very much; and also Mike is happy to get some more smolt-sender :-) Who will take the lead to bring such an idea to Max / Mike or whom it may concern? You, as you where the one you came with the idea in the first place :p Seriously, this is hot the things works: you don't have to wait for anyone else, take the initiative and follow it. If anything, taking the initiative and doing it yourself is the fastest way to getting your idea implemented. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1
Hi, just a note 2008/1/10, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Nicu, Thanks for writing this up :) Here are some of my thoughts on the round 1 proposals: Nicu Buculei wrote: The deadline for Round 1 was a couple of days ago, so here are all the submissions we gathered so far (a valid submission must have an announcement on the list and a wiki page): Listed chronologically: - CODE 9TO9, by Jiri http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/CODE9TO9 - It's an interesting concept but I think visually it could be more exciting if the 9-pointed shape was shown from a different angle other than straight on. - The colors used are sort of towards the more pastel-ish blue which is what we used for f8 so I think maybe more bold colors might be good just so there is more of a change from f8. - We traditionally do not have version numbers in the artwork so I don't know if the one with just the 9 is a good idea. I don't think the graphic needs numbers to 'explain itself' - rather it's an interesting idea to have a 9-pointed star shape as the focus of a series of abstract visual compositions. - One thing I am happy about with this concept is that beyond the number 9, it does relate to Fedora: 'endless' and 'cyclic' pretty much represent 'infinity'. - What does algorithm 9483726159 mean? The algorhitm is needed when you want to draw this star by one line, so, tip nine points around the circle and turn the line form 9 to 4, from 4 to 8, and sothis is the magic of this theme... - One last thing, while the shape is endless and cyclic, when I look at it those aren't the first ideas that come to mind, maybe there is a better way to visually express that - maybe having arrow heads or some pointed/directional shapes in the pattern? - Freedom, by Michael http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Freedom - I think the concept of freedom is great but I am not sure that these visualizations are the best way to communicate that idea. Usage of imagery about someone escaping being chained up don't always evoke ideas about 'the good guy was wrongfully jailed but now he is free.' It might make people thing about escaped 'bad guys' too, or maybe it will make people think Fedora is a bunch of escaped software pirates. (See what I mean?) It's not the most positive imagery as is right now, but your last sketch, the one with the window - I think that one is the best one, as it puts some emphasis on the positives of freedom. I would make that window bigger and bolder... or maybe the entire focus. - As per the above comment, I think maybe this idea could merge with the At Last theme... which I think visually depicts the idea of freedom but in a more positive way. - The chain sketch does remind me a bit of the Fedora DNA theme. Actually at one point I did a series of paintings, each to depict a different Fedora concept, and the one I did for 'freedom' showed a chain made out of the Fedora infinity logo getting broken. I don't actually have access to that graphic right now but if I can find it I will send it to you. I did have some struggles with it visually to make it look like a broken chain - if I just drew a broken chain without using the infinity symbol to do it then it wouldn't relate to the other paintings in the set (which were entirely constructed of Fedora logo parts, see [1] and [2]) - Waves, by Martin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - I really like the idea of this one - the main reason is that waves/water are very natural, and we have gotten a lot of feedback about how folks would like to see more 'natural' themes in Fedora. GNOME upstream also has been working to bring 'nature' to the desktop so it also fits nicely with what they are doing. But it is 'nature' our way - water is symbolized by blue as is Fedora. - This is very calming imagery - especially the first sketch. Very good for a computer which may at times be quite frustrating. :) It really reminds me of a Japanese zen garden (as I mentioned on the page) and the pattern of the stones. - I *love* *love* *love* the suggestion from TrondDanielsen - I think it would be cool if the pattern would change during the day to make the waves propagate outward just like the current theme changes colors during the day. That would be SO awesome - I think the 2nd sketch is the weakest. It seems very mathematical and abstract, and I guess I am very excited about the idea of bringing 'nature' to a very 'unnatural' thing (a computer) so I am least enthusiastic about this one. We just had an abstract/wavy-line theme in f8 so the change the other two sketches suggest are much more exciting to me. - Night, by Mola http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Night - I am not sure how this relates to Fedora conceptually at all? There doesn't seem to be an explanation? - It seems very similar to f7's theme in basic layout and I think it would
Re: [F9 theme proposal] (Also Freedom :)) Round 1
Valent Turkovic wrote: On 1/1/08, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds too busy for a default wallpaper. Maybe for an add-on one though. Well it is a bit busy :) But it was only as an idea, if some who is more artistically inclined than me can use this link I posted as an idea for a less busy one. I was recently sorting through some papers in my desk at home and came across my notes from the SIGGRAPH 2005 conference in Boston. One quote I captured in those notes that struck me most strongly (I had circled and underlined it a few times) was to the effect of: Ideas are a dime a dozen, but for someone to take the initiative to make them happen is priceless. Interpret as you will :) And no, you don't need artistic talent yourself to make artwork happen. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F9 theme proposal] (Also Freedom :)) Round 1
Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I could't give this another name, because it just screams freedom and freedom already exists but it is a different theme (or it is not) and involves chains. Please look at this picture: http://www.faith47.com/images/Slice_03_03.gif It is from artists that work on www.dynebolic.org linux distro. I'm not an artist but a photographer and art critic and I have an eye for combining things. I can see fedora logo in the hands of that person and it would make a great wallpaper. The idea is this: In the background (bw looks great but also pale fedora colors would work) there are all the symbols and tools for taking away freedom and in the center you see fedora logo that represents freedom in color as it overcomes all that in background. This sounds too busy for a default wallpaper. Maybe for an add-on one though. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F9 theme proposal] (Also Freedom :)) Round 1
I'm not being mean or anything, but I don't think having war stuff in the wallpaper is a good idea, I don't wanna see war whenever I open my computer. Honestly, I'll change the theme if that is actually the default for F9. Sorry for being rude, but I really hate war! I'm from Iraq if that helps :D Cheers! :) On Monday 31 December 2007 01:33:43 Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I could't give this another name, because it just screams freedom and freedom already exists but it is a different theme (or it is not) and involves chains. Please look at this picture: http://www.faith47.com/images/Slice_03_03.gif It is from artists that work on www.dynebolic.org linux distro. I'm not an artist but a photographer and art critic and I have an eye for combining things. I can see fedora logo in the hands of that person and it would make a great wallpaper. The idea is this: In the background (bw looks great but also pale fedora colors would work) there are all the symbols and tools for taking away freedom and in the center you see fedora logo that represents freedom in color as it overcomes all that in background. Any comments? Valent. -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [F9 theme proposal] (Also Freedom :)) Round 1
On 12/30/07, Laith Juwaidah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not being mean or anything, but I don't think having war stuff in the wallpaper is a good idea, I don't wanna see war whenever I open my computer. Honestly, I'll change the theme if that is actually the default for F9. Sorry for being rude, but I really hate war! I'm from Iraq if that helps :D Cheers! :) Hi, affcourse you aren't being mean, this is a strong image so it brings strong feedback from you, and that is ok. I'm from Croatia (we had a war for independence 15 years ago, so I know war in person not from TV). I would like to see some strong and bold from Fedora 9 theme, for me fedora 8 theme is the weakest and blandest to date and it is the ONLY theme I changed, and I used fedora since FC5. Valent -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: round 1 deadline approaching
Mark wrote: sadly i pull out of the theming battle for Fedora 8. My theme was MageFedoraTheme (not registered on the wiki). The battle is not for widget (GTK+) themes but for graphics (backgrounds, splashes) - And last of all. I want to see where redhat is in a few months. And recent rumors about talks with Microsoft don't really motivate me to continue. Ok, the Art list is not the place to flame about this, but I believe you are referring to the talk where RH said something along the lines we won't talk with MS about intellectual property - http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2154521,00.asp If anyone wants my sources (.psd photoshop ... (yes i know, no oss software) files.) Mail me privately on this mail and i will send them to you. Well, it does not do it perfectly, but GIMP can open .psd files pretty well. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 15:50 +0200, Martin Sourada a écrit : Do you mean the colours that can be set at theme details - colours tab? They work if theme implements them, not the engine. Nodoka is done so that it take effect if you change them. I'm kind of sceptical because none of the murrine themes you get when installing the engine does this (they either refuse to or only partly change colours) Anyway if an official Fedora them is produced supporting the Fedora desktop capabilities (including colour change) is a must. Esp. if we are going to insist on only producing electric blue designs ourselves. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 10:45 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: I'm kind of sceptical because none of the murrine themes you get when installing the engine does this (they either refuse to or only partly change colours) Anyway if an official Fedora them is produced supporting the Fedora desktop capabilities (including colour change) is a must. Esp. if we are going to insist on only producing electric blue designs ourselves. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I just tried to change the colours for the Nodoka theme (in Theme Details - Colours tab) for something distinctive from the original (and completely insane) and the only thing that didn't change it's colour is the scrollbar. Anyway, I don't want the scrollbar to be blue all the time, so this fix is a must for me, and the rest seems to work. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: round 1 deadline approaching
Hey, sadly i pull out of the theming battle for Fedora 8. My theme was MageFedoraTheme (not registered on the wiki). The reasons i pull out are: - The making of the theme takes more time than i'm willing to spend for it. and figuring out how to make it work for both Gnome and KDE is gonna take up so much more that i can hardly get it finished in time if possible at all. Also when i make a theme i want it to be running on both KDE and Gnome and not just gnome alone. that's not an option for me. - I'm also in the progress of making a PHP script which really needs to get some more time now. - And last of all. I want to see where redhat is in a few months. And recent rumors about talks with Microsoft don't really motivate me to continue. So sadly enough i'm out. If anyone wants my sources (.psd photoshop ... (yes i know, no oss software) files.) Mail me privately on this mail and i will send them to you. To all other competitors that are still in. i wish you all the best of luck while making the theme and please don't leave KDE out of it. Also don't forget the taskbar.. becaue i really get bored of that default gray and that can use a more fedora style (light-blue? drak-blue?). Good luck to all, Mark 2007/7/7, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi folks! The deadline for round 1 is next Wednesday. So if you've got some ideas, set up a wiki page here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes And let us know about it on the list! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
Please post screenshots or link to them in the wiki. Installation instructions to try out the theme would also be nice. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list We are still making changes to the theme. I did something more or less final, Daniel hadn't comment it yet. You can see the screenshot in my fedoraforum post [1]. Feel free to add your comments. I will make a rpm for easy installation when we decide with Daniel that it's complete enough. Meanwhile if you'd like to test it, just copy the gtkrc file from the attached tar archives (either one of Daniel's or the last one by me) to ~/.themes/Nodoka/gtk-2.0 folder. Martin References: [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showpost.php?p=824387postcount=19 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
Martin Sourada wrote: Please post screenshots or link to them in the wiki. Installation instructions to try out the theme would also be nice. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list We are still making changes to the theme. I did something more or less final, Daniel hadn't comment it yet. You can see the screenshot in my fedoraforum post [1]. Feel free to add your comments. I will make a rpm for easy installation when we decide with Daniel that it's complete enough. Yes. I would prefer a RPM package for testing changes. Have you done any benchmarks to see how well it performs compared to the default theme? http://www.manucornet.net/pub/olpc/gtk-theme-torturer.tgz http://wiki.laptop.org/go/GTK_for_OLPC#GTK_theme.2Fengine_torturer_and_crash_tester Better or atleast equivalent performance is important. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 14:06 +0200, Rahul Sundaram wrote: http://www.manucornet.net/pub/olpc/gtk-theme-torturer.tgz http://wiki.laptop.org/go/GTK_for_OLPC#GTK_theme.2Fengine_torturer_and_crash_tester Better or atleast equivalent performance is important. Rahul I downloaded the gtk-theme-torturer and attach the results. I don't know why in Clearlooks test it said 3 x 84 iterations while in Nodoka test it said 3 x 1200 iterations, however the settings were the same. Martin Clearlooks # 3 x 84 iterations -- Full torture # WidgetBoot-create Boot-mapBoot-expose Boot-destroyExpose Resize GtkEntry0.000147269 0.00315508 0.0022365 0.00338365 0.00177702 0.0238297 GtkButton 0.000121923 0.000489288 0.00523546 0.000181904 0.00200787 0.0188326 GtkCheckButton 0.000123846 0.000497058 0.00382321 0.000152538 0.00113287 0.0103687 GtkFrame0.000105077 0.000503962 0.00331173 0.000177462 0.000825481 0.00989146 GtkLabel8.63846e-05 0.000424096 0.0031726 0.000125115 0.0007045 0.00981844 GtkNotebook 0.00027025 0.00115765 0.00676956 0.000331577 0.0033179 0.0131119 GtkRadioButton 0.000133308 0.000499712 0.00471298 0.000159058 0.00199504 0.0111447 GtkProgressBar 8.34808e-05 0.00511515 0.00115177 0.000145558 0.000654327 0.0214813 GtkHScale 0.000303462 0.000592885 0.005676 0.000131577 0.00264463 0.0121585 GtkVScale 0.000305404 0.000592365 0.00632831 0.000130385 0.00185575 0.0123087 GtkScrolledWindow 0.000193692 0.000393865 0.0104869 0.000203173 0.00498819 0.0145693 Nodoka # 3 x 1200 iterations -- Full torture # WidgetBoot-create Boot-mapBoot-expose Boot-destroyExpose Resize GtkEntry0.000142481 0.00285169 0.00196394 0.00331675 0.00162346 0.0142914 GtkButton 0.000120462 0.000495635 0.0061404 0.000169173 0.00286858 0.0302243 GtkCheckButton 0.000125288 0.000503288 0.00404269 0.000148673 0.00118565 0.0103911 GtkFrame0.0001045 0.000502404 0.00333071 0.000175885 0.000900308 0.0109998 GtkLabel8.49423e-05 0.000427712 0.00316335 0.000124635 0.000702462 0.00971348 GtkNotebook 0.000268904 0.00117879 0.00658946 0.000330288 0.00315135 0.0128475 GtkRadioButton 0.000134615 0.000511135 0.00545163 0.000152596 0.00251883 0.0117605 GtkProgressBar 8.14423e-05 0.000823577 0.00390913 0.000140538 0.000664019 0.0226319 GtkHScale 0.000304769 0.000593154 0.00568373 0.000129462 0.00269512 0.0122241 GtkVScale 0.000308577 0.000593769 0.00648194 0.000130712 0.00263017 0.0125023 GtkScrolledWindow 0.000185885 0.000395327 0.0121235 0.0002015 0.00634665 0.0162035 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
Martin Sourada wrote: As for the rpm. I've just created it [1]. As for the performance - I tested only metacity theme, I don't know how to do benchmark on gtk theme, but Daniel says murrine engine is faster then clearlooks. Here are the results for metacity: $ metacity-theme-viewer Clearlooks Loaded theme Clearlooks in 0.01 seconds Drew 100 frames in 0.17 client-side seconds (1.7 milliseconds per frame) and 0.324083 seconds wall clock time including X server resources (3.24083 milliseconds per frame) $ metacity-theme-viewer Nodoka Loaded theme Nodoka in 0.01 seconds Drew 100 frames in 0.08 client-side seconds (0.8 milliseconds per frame) and 0.141556 seconds wall clock time including X server resources (1.41556 milliseconds per frame) Nodaka is considerably faster here. Are you using the Murrine or Clearlooks engine? I have heard that Murrine is faster and more customizable too. I have installed the package and will be using it for sometime and hope to give more detailed comments. Some initial feedback: It has a distinctive look. Theme appears to be more glossy than the current default. The title bar and especially the minimize, maximize and close buttons are rather large. I don't see the tab like effect in the menus that was there in some of the mockups. Can you add that? The scroll bar blue matches the window buttons but the title bar is a darker blue. Should that somehow match? We should probably have darker as well as ally variants. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
The big problem with the murrine engine is it does not honour colour preferences like a well-behaved theme. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 15:27 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The big problem with the murrine engine is it does not honour colour preferences like a well-behaved theme. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Do you mean the colours that can be set at theme details - colours tab? They work if theme implements them, not the engine. Nodoka is done so that it take effect if you change them. However, if there is a desire and enough time (and people work) we can make a Nodoka engine to fit our needs better. I myself am not 100 % content with the murrine engine and would like to have some styles murrine engine probably does not support. I've also found an interesting engine which has the same effect on tabs I had in the mockups [1]. Maybe we can finish what we can with murrine engine, than derive a nodoka engine from it and gradually rewrite it to fit our needs. Your opinions? Martin References: [1] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Gtk +Engine?content=56438 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 15:50 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 15:27 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The big problem with the murrine engine is it does not honour colour preferences like a well-behaved theme. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Do you mean the colours that can be set at theme details - colours tab? They work if theme implements them, not the engine. Nodoka is done so that it take effect if you change them. However, if there is a desire and enough time (and people work) we can make a Nodoka engine to fit our needs better. I myself am not 100 % content with the murrine engine and would like to have some styles murrine engine probably does not support. I've also found an interesting engine which has the same effect on tabs I had in the mockups [1]. Maybe we can finish what we can with murrine engine, than derive a nodoka engine from it and gradually rewrite it to fit our needs. Your opinions? Note that themes can use multiple engines. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but it is possible, at least for prototyping. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Fedora 8 theme proposal] Fedora Nodoka Round 1
In this Nodoka theme proposal, I just have Metacity and GTK+ components so far. The Metacity component is a revision of Martin Sourada's Nodoka Metacity. The GTK+ component is an original (based originally on Aqualooks gtkrc) that utilizes the Murrine theme engine, and is meant to go with Echo icons, but can (should) work with other icon themes as well. For more info, see the wiki page for it: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DanielGeiger/F8ThemeNodoka or the Nodoka theme thread on FedoraForum: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=824205 - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
round 1 deadline approaching
Hi folks! The deadline for round 1 is next Wednesday. So if you've got some ideas, set up a wiki page here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes And let us know about it on the list! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FC7 Theme Round 1 is over, let's start round 2! (was Re: Round 1 Submission Deadline Extension)
Le Ven 8 décembre 2006 04:18, Máirín Duffy a écrit : - Borealis, by Máirín Duffy: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis 'One of the core values of Fedora is only including free and open source software, without including non-free software, codecs, drivers, patents, etc. We try to be a *pure* operating system. So the main word I'd use to describe this theme is pure.' This theme is a bit too peaceful a static (except for the drapes variant). We don't want people to get the idea nothing happens in Fedora or a new release is not a special event. I'd add at least one dynamic element (shooting star, plane trace, ground activity) to add some life to the theme. - Flying High, by John Baer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFlyingHigh 'Flying high reflects the level of achievement obtained by the core 7 release of fedora.' I like the way the two balloons on try 5 get the idea of community accross. The other variants either show a single lonely balloon or spread them too much to convene the group idea. - Dreams, by John Baer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraDreams 'The idea here is you are only limited by what you can imagine.' I don't really feel any central theme there, though some images are nice. - Planet, by Mola Pahnadayan: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalplanet (none stated) This one has already been discussed. I'll add that the caps on Fedora Project do not seem to respect usual guidelines - Energy Interferences, by Jiri Jakub Masek: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalEnergyInterferences 'All of this universe is built on the energy interferences. The theme is based on a visualization how could these interferences look if we could see them in a *sub-subatomic* level.' Sorry, but no. We don't need to stress the hardcore engineer/math/geek aspect of the distro, if anything we need to deemphasize it. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
FC7 Theme Round 1 is over, let's start round 2! (was Re: Round 1 Submission Deadline Extension)
Okay, so round 1 is officially over. The list that Nicu so helpfully compiled (thanks!!) is the official list of theme candidates for FC7. I linked to all of them from the FC7 Theme page as well: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes I've also took a lot of the round 1 specific information out of the page and added round 2 specific information. Basically, here's how I'm hoping we can run round 2 as is written on the wiki page: There is no formal voting process for themes right now (in round 2). You vote with your time and effort! So if you really like a theme idea, chip in and help refine it! For our next round (round 3), we'll take stock of how the themes have evolved and try to figure out which ones we need to choose between if there is no clear standout candidate. While the main point of round 1 was to figure out concepts we felt would relate to Fedora, for round 2 we should be focusing on rendering those concepts and making them visually appealing. As part of this, we'll probably want to start thinking about how some key theme pieces will look - GDM (login), RHGB (start-up progress screen), and of course the desktop wallpaper. But there's no need to flesh every theming piece out for round 2 (that's what round 3 will be all about!) The name of the game now though is definitely 'polish'. Anyway, to further develop the theme(s) of your selection, try thinking about some of these kinds of questions and sketch out your answers: - Does the color palette of this theme reflect the idea I'm trying to portray? - Does the style this theme is rendered in reflect its concept? What other styles might be appropriate? - What other pieces of art or design that I've seen also reflect this concept and could serve as inspiration to this theme? - How grating or pleasant would this theme be for a desktop user to see every single day? Is there anything about it that stands out and calls too much attention to itself? How can I 'mute' this design so it stands in the background without compromising its ability to relate its concept? - Are there alternative ways of arranging the visual elements in this theme that might be more effective? Try looking through some of the Gestalt principles [1] for inspiration on alternative ways to represent your concept and to play around with your theme visually. You may want to try to recruit other artists to help out with your theme. Deviant art [2] is one good place to do that; I'm sure there are others. Anyway, here's the list Nicu put together with a summary of what each theme is about. I took off the two themes that weren't formally proposed since they don't actually have a concept statement or wiki pages: - Borealis, by Máirín Duffy: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis 'One of the core values of Fedora is only including free and open source software, without including non-free software, codecs, drivers, patents, etc. We try to be a *pure* operating system. So the main word I'd use to describe this theme is pure.' - Flying High, by John Baer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFlyingHigh 'Flying high reflects the level of achievement obtained by the core 7 release of fedora.' - Dreams, by John Baer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraDreams 'The idea here is you are only limited by what you can imagine.' - Planet, by Mola Pahnadayan: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalplanet (none stated) - Energy Interferences, by Jiri Jakub Masek: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalEnergyInterferences 'All of this universe is built on the energy interferences. The theme is based on a visualization how could these interferences look if we could see them in a *sub-subatomic* level.' ~m [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestalt_psychology [2] http://www.deviantart.com/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FC7 Theme Round 1 is over, let's start round 2!
Leo wrote: On FRI, 8 DEC 2006, Máirín Duffy wrote: Okay, so round 1 is officially over. The list that Nicu so helpfully compiled (thanks!!) is the official list of theme candidates for FC7. I linked to all of them from the FC7 Theme page as well: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes Those are great pictures! Thanks everyone. One thing that confuses me for a long time is the fact that the art team is rather concentrated on creating those wallpaper-like pictures. I am not saying it is not important. They are critical elements of a consistent-looking theme. But what about the gtk2 and metacity themes, and the icon theme? Particularly the icon theme, it is overdue for a change. Window manager theme was discussed a few weeks at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-November/msg00085.html. We just need to pick that up and polish it more. The Fedora development tree aka 'rawhide' already has a new icon theme. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FC7 Theme Round 1 is over, let's start round 2!
Hi Leo, Leo wrote: On FRI, 8 DEC 2006, Máirín Duffy wrote: Okay, so round 1 is officially over. The list that Nicu so helpfully compiled (thanks!!) is the official list of theme candidates for FC7. I linked to all of them from the FC7 Theme page as well: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes Those are great pictures! Thanks everyone. One thing that confuses me for a long time is the fact that the art team is rather concentrated on creating those wallpaper-like pictures. I am not saying it is not important. They are critical elements of a consistent-looking theme. But what about the gtk2 and metacity themes, I think for gtk2 we are probably going to stick with Clearlooks. Clearlooks is getting some features that give it the glossiness Murrine has, and it's also the GNOME upstream theming engine. Andy Fitzsimon put together a Murrine theme that has very very nice Fedora colors, and I think he's working on porting it to Clearlooks. and the icon theme? Particularly the icon theme, it is overdue for a change. Well, I think there are some working on Echo. I'm not really involved in that, though. I think I've mentioned before I like some of Andy Fitzsimon's ideas around using Tango as an upstream and applying styles to it [1]. ~m [1] http://live.gnome.org/AwesomeArtShit (towards the bottom of the page) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FC7 Theme Round 1 is over, let's start round 2!
On FRI, 8 DEC 2006, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Window manager theme was discussed a few weeks at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-November/msg00085.html. We just need to pick that up and polish it more. This one has been in the public for a few months before Andrea submitted to this list. The Fedora development tree aka 'rawhide' already has a new icon theme. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment. That page has not been updated for a while. -- Leo ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FC7 Theme Round 1 is over, let's start round 2! (was Re: Round 1 Submission Deadline Extension)
Máirín Duffy wrote: I've also took a lot of the round 1 specific information out of the page and added round 2 specific information. Basically, here's how I'm hoping we can run round 2 as is written on the wiki page: You should also set a deadline for round 2. I guess we can allow one or even two months for this round. One month probably is not enough considering the vacancy around winter holidays, two months may be too long considering Fedora's development cycle. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FC7 Theme Round 1 is over, let's start round 2!
Leo wrote: One thing that confuses me for a long time is the fact that the art team is rather concentrated on creating those wallpaper-like pictures. I am not saying it is not important. They are critical elements of a consistent-looking theme. But what about the gtk2 and metacity themes, and the icon theme? Particularly the icon theme, it is overdue for a change. Wallpapers, gtk themes and icons are orthogonal. Development on one of them does not affect directly the other. Also, different people can work on each of them. Working on gtk themes require knowledge of gtk and some programming abilities, icons are a little scary because the work is huge (we need a lot of them) so obviously people tend to concentrate on what seems easier and with a lower barrier to entry: wallpaper-like images. I believe we are not superhumans :p -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FC7 Theme Round 1 is over, let's start round 2!
Máirín Duffy wrote: Well, I think there are some working on Echo. I'm not really involved in that, though. I think I've mentioned before I like some of Andy Fitzsimon's ideas around using Tango as an upstream and applying styles to it [1]. Sorry for being so blunt: Andy's idea look very cool on paper, but do you have realistic expectation of it being implemented in due time even for FC 8? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Flying High with Fedora 7 - Round 1
John Baer wrote: I made minor adjustments to the Fedora by moon light wall paper and I added a splash image corrected to 16 colors. It seems more themes have a convergence on the starry night idea: this moon light in Flying High, the new additions in Borealis, the whole Planet... Even Dreams may be somewhat connected with night -- Join the Fedora Art group on Mugshot: http://mugshot.org/group?who=DrZ42qVjmPWmnh ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[FC7 theme proposal] Flying High with Fedora 7 - Round 1
On 12/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems more themes have a convergence on the starry night idea: this moon light in Flying High, the new additions in Borealis, the whole Planet... Even Dreams may be somewhat connected with night -- Nicu, I made the same observation! I started out with something light but went back to the night. In my case I believe I was inspired by Mola's fedora planet wall paper. How dark the final theme should be is certainly something we can discuss. John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Round 1 Submission Deadline Extension
Máirín Duffy wrote: Once we get everything in Wednesday night I'll write up a list of all the proposals and we can start discussing them for round 2. I see no announcement for another extension, so here is a list of the proposals gathered so far (in chronological order): - Borealis, by Máirín Duffy: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis - Flying High, by John Baer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFlyingHigh - Dreams, by John Baer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraDreams - Planet, by Mola Pahnadayan: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalplanet - Energy Interferences, by Jiri Jakub Masek: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalEnergyInterferences We had a couple of other ideas advanced, but lacking a formal proposal accompanied by the required wiki page: - Games, by Ifeoma Onuorah: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-August/msg00213.html and https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-October/msg00121.html - Tangram, by Jiri Jakub Masek: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-October/msg00099.html (this one has an adaptation for Flying High: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFlyingHigh?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=jjm-flying-high01.png) Hope I have not missed anything -- Join the Fedora Art group on Mugshot: http://mugshot.org/group?who=DrZ42qVjmPWmnh ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora Dreams - Round 1
Il giorno 27/nov/06, alle ore 16:37, Máirín Duffy ha scritto: Maybe we should start a page on the wiki where the 'Dark Jedis' post their expertise so folks know who to ask for help in conversion! :) Or begin a series pf post in the various blog with images which illustrates how to do it! Something like this, maybe: http://www.libertymeadows.com/images/DRAWBRANDY.jpg ;-) -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Losito http://www.koolinus.net http://koolinus.wordpress.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Flying High with Fedora 7 - Round 1 (John Baer)
On 13/11/06, John Baer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFlyingHigh You've got a lot of good ideas in this proposal. I like the light, lively feel of the idea...it even prompts the feeling of an adventurous journey. The rendering of the blue hot-air balloons in the wallpaper mockup amidst the clouds are also charming. In contrast to the wallpaper mockup, I also really like the vibrant colours in the Anaconda sidebar. I know you've commented that the final version would be an svg drawing instead...so, two questions... 1) would the .svg drawing be as appealing? 2) is this photo free to use...because it would be really interesting to further pursue the idea in that direction as well. Overall, good job! While there are several different looks represented in this proposal...they are all excellent visual directions (to further develop as independent looks or try to merge to one cohesive theme) that could work very well as the next theme for Fedora Core. Diana --- Red Hat Visual Designer | Desktop Group ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Fedora Borealis Round 1
Máirín Duffy wrote: Ahhh!! Very good point. I did another iteration with the Fedora floating as well... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=fc7themeproposal-fedoraborealis-mock2.png (Try 2 on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis) It's definitely changed the look a bit - I added drop shadows. I'm not sure why. This still needs to be played with this more, it was just a quick modification. I think I know why you added shadows: they increase the 3D look and ease the transition from the current full 3D theme to a flatten one. And I also know what is wrong with the shadows: light is coming from top, objects have a vertical shape and the shadow is projected in a horizontal plane. But I got the idea and like it. Another idea - maybe take the Fedora logo out entirely and go much simpler than the original proposal. Or just keep the logo flat, and make it much smaller, and tuck in the lower right corner or some such. Yup, the Fedora logo can go, we have enough symbols: f, infinity and bubble. Great points. Makes me look at it now, and think, Hi, my name is Fedora. Is anybody out there? out there there there there. Oh an echo! I'm all aleee! ;) Now if you said the word echo in this context... we will introduce the Echo theme for icons, I wonder about having and the wallpaper also about an echo but I don't know yet how. Maybe with a single graphic element and a lot of reflexions? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Fedora Borealis Round 1
Il giorno 31/ott/06, alle ore 06:42, Máirín Duffy ha scritto:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis i do like the bootsplash concept, less the wallpaper mockup :-) -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Lositohttp://www.koolinus.nethttp://koolinus.wordpress.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Fedora Borealis Round 1
Nicola Losito wrote: Il giorno 31/ott/06, alle ore 06:42, Máirín Duffy ha scritto: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis i do like the bootsplash concept, less the wallpaper mockup :-) I think we were asked for constructive feedback: quoteBe very specific with your feedback. I like it is not acceptable. I really like how it makes the use of the Fedora blue color, it's bright and conveys a positive feeling is much better./quote I am neutral-to positive about the wallpaper, I am all for simplicity. And the concept can shine with some polish. For the bootsplash I am not that sure, it is dark and the wallpaper is light, I would prefer both to be the same, either dark or light. Can we have the text on boot on a non-black background? Where I have a strong opinion is the Metacity theme. I hate when the window control buttons (minimize, maximize, close) look all the same and you have to stay and think what is the function of a button based only on its position. With icons on those buttons it would be OK. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Fedora Borealis Round 1
On 31/10/06, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis Nice idea for the concept, following the obvious in-trend atm with a pure, minimalistic look. Personally, I'm in two minds about it. My main gripe is with applications that have a darker background, such as the terminal, it makes the title bar and menus look too big. The SS on the original theme page [1] shows what I mean well. I loved the FC5 titlebar as it separated the application from everything else because the colour was totally different. I wonder if there was a slightly blue gradient on the title bar or something just to separate it a bit as well as keeping it in line with the overall FC colours. I'm currently using KDE with the Polyester theme [2] which seems, if you like, a less-modern version. Smooth blend [3] I feel is half-way, just with horrible buttons. If I have time later today I'll have a fiddle in GIMP. The window content, however, looks nice. Simple and fitting. [1] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1id=19390file1=19390-1.jpgfile2=file3=name=Milk+flat+-+blue [2] http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=27731file1=27731-1.pngfile2=27731-2.pngfile3=name=Plastik+Classic [3] http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1id=21107file1=21107-1.pngfile2=21107-2.pngfile3=name=Smooth+Blend -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Fedora Borealis Round 1
Il giorno 31/ott/06, alle ore 09:46, Nicu Buculei ha scritto:Nicola Losito wrote: Il giorno 31/ott/06, alle ore 06:42, Máirín Duffy ha scritto: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis i do like the bootsplash concept, less the wallpaper mockup :-) I think we were asked for constructive feedback:quoteBe very specific with your feedback. "I like it" is not acceptable. "I really like how it makes the use of the Fedora blue color, it's bright and conveys a positive feeling" is much better./quoteOK :-)So i do like the darker blu on Fedora opposite to the light tone used in the wallpaper.I do also like the concept of "raising" Fedora logo on the bootsplash ... it catches the comcept of something starting{i wold also love this time to have a shutdown-splash}I also don't know if you guys follows other distro planet's on one i've found this:http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/screenshots-opensuse-102-beta-2/which shows some login screens from openSUSE 10.2. to me they seem new, fresh, different in graphics from other solution and at the same time clean and professional looking ... -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Lositohttp://www.koolinus.nethttp://koolinus.wordpress.com ___
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Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Fedora Borealis Round 1
Nicu Buculei wrote: I am neutral-to positive about the wallpaper, I am all for simplicity. And the concept can shine with some polish. For the bootsplash I am not that sure, it is dark and the wallpaper is light, I would prefer both to be the same, either dark or light. Can we have the text on boot on a non-black background? Where I have a strong opinion is the Metacity theme. I hate when the window control buttons (minimize, maximize, close) look all the same and you have to stay and think what is the function of a button based only on its position. With icons on those buttons it would be OK. +1 on all points. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither. (Anonymous) -- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora Borealis Round 1
Máirín, This is not a critique of your submission but a thank you for again getting us off to a really good start. My first impression is positive and I will offer additional comments when I have time to study the items in more detail. As a challenge to myself and others, submit your ideas. John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[FC7 theme proposal] Fedora Borealis Round 1
Here's a theme idea I came up with: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis Here's the concept behind it: I started thinking about how Fedora is a pure operating system - one of the core values of Fedora is only including free and open source software, without including non-free software, codecs, drivers, patents, etc. We try to be a *pure* operating system. So the main word I'd use to describe this theme is pure. Soft, clean glows. Pure, clean reflections. I liked Milk Flat Blue [1] as an accompanying metacity theme. Not so happy with Clearlooks LightBlues [2] as a GTK+ theme - I like the blue highlights but its kinda overwhelmingly bright in other spots. There is probably something better out there. ~m [1] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19390 [2] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31788 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [FC7 theme proposal] Fedora Borealis Round 1
On 10/31/06, Máirín Duffy hidden wrote: I liked Milk Flat Blue [1] as an accompanying metacity theme. Not so happy with Clearlooks LightBlues [2] as a GTK+ theme - I like the blue highlights but its kinda overwhelmingly bright in other spots. There is probably something better out there. Hehehe, that's my favorite metacity theme for gnome :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
