Re: artTeam Home Page Mockup
Máirín Duffy wrote: 1) Overall does this seem reasonable as a replacement for the existing art page? Is there anything we're forgetting? Yes but now we are left with two pages - ArtTeam and Artwork. The artwork specifications are also duplicated in two pages. 2) An intentional omission here is any reference to the default artwork. Does anyone not agree with this? If the artwork handled by Red Hat Desktop team just specify that. That would be more appropriate for folks new to the project to understand who owns what. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artTeam Home Page Mockup
Mo wrote: (I do not think that putting together an extra theme package for (the artist formerly known as) extras requires working with Desktop team at all, although we will need someone with some packaging experience to help us put it together.) I was thinking more along a buffet style theme. For example, break down the artwork of Fedora 6 into the changeable GDM components (ie. grub, rhgb, login, and wallpaper). Craft a how-to wiki page to describes how-to build the images and include an optional install script. Not as automated as a RPM package but very flexible (ie. I like grub, rhgb, but dislike gdm login). For those who desire to build and package new themes, this info is a good start. IMO flexibility and freedom of choice is key. I thought I would mock up a GRUB page to see how it plays out. John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artTeam Home Page Mockup
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 19:19 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: [...snip...] (I do not think that putting together an extra theme package for (the artist formerly known as) extras requires working with Desktop team at all, although we will need someone with some packaging experience to help us put it together.) I'm not a packaging *guru*, but I've been packaging a few odds and ends for a while now, and if I didn't mention it before, I'm happy to help out with this part. Is possible to make a package that at install time change the wallpaper for all users? I think a package for an alternate theme should change: GRUB splash, RHGB screen, GDM theme, wallpaper. Maybe even the screensaver graphic, but I am not sure about that. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artTeam Home Page Mockup
Le Mer 28 février 2007 14:10, Nicu Buculei a écrit : Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 19:19 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: [...snip...] (I do not think that putting together an extra theme package for (the artist formerly known as) extras requires working with Desktop team at all, although we will need someone with some packaging experience to help us put it together.) I'm not a packaging *guru*, but I've been packaging a few odds and ends for a while now, and if I didn't mention it before, I'm happy to help out with this part. Is possible to make a package that at install time change the wallpaper for all users? I think a package for an alternate theme should change: GRUB splash, RHGB screen, GDM theme, wallpaper. Maybe even the screensaver graphic, but I am not sure about that. Please don't. This is the kind of heavy-handed intervention that makes users mad. What you can do is create aliases with names like default and change what they point at from release to release. Meaning that users who accepted to use distro defaults will get the changes, and others won't have their loved custom setup stepped on. For example I used DNA wallpaper and it changed to balloons recently. I could get mad - I didn't select default wallpaper in the list but DNA wallpaper, it shouldn't have changed at the whim of the Desktop team. -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artTeam Home Page Mockup
All, The ArtTeam mockup is looking too good (thanks Mo) to stay in my SandBox so I moved it a new home. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArtTeam I do not know what url makes the most sense /wiki/ArtTeam, or /wiki/ArtWork/ArtTeam, or wiki/FedoraTeams/Art but in my mind the first choice was logical. :) Please feel free to rename the page. My desire is to clear the .../SandBox to start mockups for some of the other pages we discussed. Cheers, John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artTeam Home Page Mockup
Hey John, John Baer wrote: All, I could not be more delighted by the discussion taking place and I want to add an additional item to the discussion and that is a mock up of the team wiki home page. It currently resides in my personal sandbox but if it this is heading in the desired direction of the team I would like to move it. Please view this as a starting point. On the whole, I think the goals and objectives you've got on here are pretty much right on (with some holes I will fill in), but I kind of agree with Paul's [1] sentiment that in terms of roles on the team, this introduces a little bit too much structure for a small, fledgling team. For now, considering some of our recent *ahem* issues, I think it's probably a smart idea to avoid the default artwork for Fedora (the OS distro). It has already been decided that it cannot be part of a community project, so it really has nothing to do with this list and should not be a project under this team. This eliminates the need for a liaison with the Desktop team. (I do not think that putting together an extra theme package for (the artist formerly known as) extras requires working with Desktop team at all, although we will need someone with some packaging experience to help us put it together.) I kind of think all we really need is an overall team leader or two of the loosely coupled subgroups who can do project management (communication, schedules, deadlines, milestones, project prioritization, etc). Since the Fedora project definition process [2] suggests starting out as a SIG first and then giving status reports and sort of applying to become an official project, this status report/application process also seems like something that should be a task the team lead handles. I don't think small subgroups like a 'documentation team' or 'marketing team' really need formal leads/liasons; if they grow big enough to warrant it I should hope leaders would naturally emerge. Does this seem reasonable? ~m [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-February/msg00207.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DefiningProjects ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artTeam Home Page Mockup
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 19:19 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: [...snip...] (I do not think that putting together an extra theme package for (the artist formerly known as) extras requires working with Desktop team at all, although we will need someone with some packaging experience to help us put it together.) I'm not a packaging *guru*, but I've been packaging a few odds and ends for a while now, and if I didn't mention it before, I'm happy to help out with this part. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
artTeam Home Page Mockup
All, I could not be more delighted by the discussion taking place and I want to add an additional item to the discussion and that is a mock up of the team wiki home page. It currently resides in my personal sandbox but if it this is heading in the desired direction of the team I would like to move it. Please view this as a starting point. Paul, I see you are skilled writer and I would welcome any improvements your have time to offer (feel free to edit the page). http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaer/SandBox Cheers, John ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: artTeam Home Page Mockup
John Baer wrote: I could not be more delighted by the discussion taking place and I want to add an additional item to the discussion and that is a mock up of the team wiki home page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaer/SandBox May I ask who is the intended audience for this page? - a Fedora user wanting to enhance the look of his desktop or some Fedora graphics for his website; - a Fedora enthusiast seeking a way to contribute to the project; - an existing contributor to Fedora Art seeking where to channel his work. I think is obvious that I am not a native speaker of the English language and from my point of view the first phrase with enabler and facilitator would scare me away if I would be new here. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
