Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-27 Thread Ben Arnold

On 25/06/07, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ah, that is your sketch? I love it!


Yep, from a photo of a A5 paper as my scanner broke :)

I've quickly done a digital version whilst at college and uploaded it
to the wiki [1] along with a PNG export to show how it should look [2]
- I had to use Illustrator and saved as SVG, don't know if it will all
be perfect, you see.

I had a couple of hours of standing still, looking pretty [3] but I
didn't have my sketch with me, nor an internet connection so I had to
do it from memory. Close enough, though. The background is different
(suggestion from a friend) and I've no giant circles (couldn't quite
remember them) but the essence of boxes, lines etc. is there.

./b

1 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract
2 - 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=LinesAndCircles1a.png
3 - http://www.last.fm/music/The+Wreckers/Stand+Still%2C+Look+Pretty

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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 17:25 +0200, Ben Arnold wrote:
 Yep, from a photo of a A5 paper as my scanner broke :)
 
 I've quickly done a digital version whilst at college and uploaded it
 to the wiki [1] along with a PNG export to show how it should look [2]
 - I had to use Illustrator and saved as SVG, don't know if it will all
 be perfect, you see.
 
Hm... it's nice, but IMHO it's too much detailed... I would wash the
details out, so that icons will be easily distinguishable from the
wallpaper.

 I had a couple of hours of standing still, looking pretty [3] but I
 didn't have my sketch with me, nor an internet connection so I had to
 do it from memory. Close enough, though. The background is different
 (suggestion from a friend) and I've no giant circles (couldn't quite
 remember them) but the essence of boxes, lines etc. is there.
 
 ./b
 
 1 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract
 2 - 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=LinesAndCircles1a.png
 3 - http://www.last.fm/music/The+Wreckers/Stand+Still%2C+Look+Pretty
 

Your paper sketch inspired me... So I quickly drawn in Inkscape an idea
of what I'd like... It's not very nice IMHO but seems good for wallpaper
if polished... I exported 16:10 png [1] and saved 4:3 svg [2] and put
both on the wiki.

Martin

references:
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=SimplyAbstract1.png
[2]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=SimplyAbstract1.svg
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract


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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-27 Thread Ben Arnold

On 27/06/07, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 17:25 +0200, Ben Arnold wrote:
Hm... it's nice, but IMHO it's too much detailed... I would wash the
details out, so that icons will be easily distinguishable from the
wallpaper.


Sure, it is quite detailed. Some of the insirational wp's I've seen
recently are busy which is probably why.


Your paper sketch inspired me... So I quickly drawn in Inkscape an idea
of what I'd like... It's not very nice IMHO but seems good for wallpaper
if polished... I exported 16:10 png [1] and saved 4:3 svg [2] and put
both on the wiki.


It's looking good, reminds me of the Mac Aqua one. I'll have another
play soon. Thanks for your input :)

./b


references:
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=SimplyAbstract1.png
[2]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=SimplyAbstract1.svg
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract


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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juin 2007 à 18:56 +0200, Martin Sourada a écrit :

 Your paper sketch inspired me... So I quickly drawn in Inkscape an idea
 of what I'd like... 

That's funny the sketch reminded me of celtic/high middle age metalwork,
and you took it in another direction entirely. IMHO your idea is much
too blue, and whats worse the same blue as previous fedora wallpapers.
If we have to keep monochrome at least try to change the blue!

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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 19:05 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
 Le mercredi 27 juin 2007 à 18:56 +0200, Martin Sourada a écrit :
 
  Your paper sketch inspired me... So I quickly drawn in Inkscape an idea
  of what I'd like... 
 
 That's funny the sketch reminded me of celtic/high middle age metalwork,
 and you took it in another direction entirely. IMHO your idea is much
 too blue, and whats worse the same blue as previous fedora wallpapers.
 If we have to keep monochrome at least try to change the blue!
 
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Hm... it could be because I like this very kind of blue... I didn't want
it to have the same blue like the previous fedoras, but it seems as I
was choosing the colour with colour picker that I have chosen it... But
as I said, it's more an idea than a wallpaper...


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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-27 Thread Máirí­n Duffy

Nicu Buculei wrote:
As you may know, we have an open process [1] for submitting artwork 
proposals for Fedora 8.


Thank you Nicu for reminding us about the deadlines and driving this 
forward!


I have been hesitant to start really driving this because I was hoping I 
could get you all a more firm answer on whether or not the artwork would 
definitely be considered as the default theme. Since I have not been 
able to do that, and we are quickly running out of time, here is the one 
thing I can promise you: I will definitely find a way to package and 
make easily installable at least some of the artwork we come up with if 
it isn't considered for the default artwork. Let's just focus on coming 
up with the best theme we can.


The *tentative* deadline for the first round [2] is approaching fast, in 
one week and we don't have yet *any* formal submission. With a tight 
schedule for F8 I think this date may slip, but only with a few days.


I've slipped the schedule a bit: I added revised dates and the full set 
of Art Team milestones for F8 to the wiki page Nicu set up earlier:


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes

So the new deadline for the first round, which is just are the concept 
proposals, is Wednesday, July 11th.



So do not be afraid and send your proposals, Fedora needs you!


+1 Also, if there was a proposal from the Fedora 7 process that didn't 
make it that you liked, feel free to propose it for F8.


I also understand some of may not be very happy with what happened at le 
last release, but I believe we learned a lot from that experience and 
can do better this time.


Yep, let's focus on coming up with the best artwork we can and blow 
everyone away with it. :)


~m

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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-25 Thread Dimitris Glezos
O/H Nicu Buculei έγραψε:
 As you may know, we have an open process [1] for submitting artwork
 proposals for Fedora 8.
 The *tentative* deadline for the first round [2] is approaching fast, in
 one week and we don't have yet *any* formal submission. With a tight
 schedule for F8 I think this date may slip, but only with a few days.
 
 So do not be afraid and send your proposals, Fedora needs you!
 
 I understand that graphics in F7 have a high degree of polishing and may
 look intimidating for a new contributor [...]

I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we introduced a simple and clean theme, nor
if we shipped a previous proposal which was liked, like eg. Borealis. KISS. :)

-d

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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-25 Thread Nicu Buculei

Dimitris Glezos wrote:

O/H Nicu Buculei έγραψε:


I understand that graphics in F7 have a high degree of polishing and may
look intimidating for a new contributor [...]


I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we introduced a simple and clean theme, nor
if we shipped a previous proposal which was liked, like eg. Borealis. KISS. :)


Sure, but we need to start from something - from a few formal proposals. 
Then we will talk about them, experiment and see where it is going.


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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-25 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 14:56 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Dimitris Glezos wrote:
  O/H Nicu Buculei έγραψε:
 
  I understand that graphics in F7 have a high degree of polishing and may
  look intimidating for a new contributor [...]
  
  I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we introduced a simple and clean 
  theme, nor
  if we shipped a previous proposal which was liked, like eg. Borealis. KISS. 
  :)
 
 Sure, but we need to start from something - from a few formal proposals. 
 Then we will talk about them, experiment and see where it is going.
 

Hm... perhaps we could make some formal requests for some of the
suggestions made on the F8ThemeAbstract wiki page [1]? Is there any
problem about it?

Martin

References
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract


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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-25 Thread Nicu Buculei

Mark wrote:
My artwork is far at this moment but i`m still wondering if making 
artwork will be good.. because with F7 the Redhat people decided to make 
the theme internal even with alot of good theme proposals. so if redhat 
plans to do this same trick again when all the proposals have been made 
than i would like to know this now because than i quit my theming 
efforts because they won`t be used anyway.


So: can you guarantee that proposals made here actually have a chance of 
being used?
Or: we make stuff and redhat decides to make something different? (and 
thereby making our stuff useless)


I don't think *anybody* can make a guarantee, it may turn in the end all 
our proposals are crap or something.


But keep in mind a few things:
- currently Red Hat does not have any employee in charge of desktop 
artwork (since Diana left) and probably will not have someone for this 
entire release cycle (or until too late in the release cycle);

- the entire talk was started by Matthias from the Red Hat Desktop Team;
- we have support from the Fedora leadership: 
http://lwn.net/Articles/237700/


I don't think anyone can make better guarantees, but this look good 
enough to me.


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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-25 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:37 +0200, Mark wrote:
 My artwork is far at this moment but i`m still wondering if making
 artwork will be good.. because with F7 the Redhat people decided to
 make the theme internal even with alot of good theme proposals. so if
 redhat plans to do this same trick again when all the proposals have
 been made than i would like to know this now because than i quit my
 theming efforts because they won`t be used anyway. 
 
 So: can you guarantee that proposals made here actually have a chance
 of being used?
 Or: we make stuff and redhat decides to make something different? (and
 thereby making our stuff useless)
 
 This might seem like annoying questions but they are important for me
 to know. and i think this is important for everyone to know. so please
 a official and public (don`t pm me with it) answer. 

Nobody will give you guarantees; but as I already explained earlier, we
don't have Diana anymore, and no replacement yet. So, for better or
worse, the F8 art will be as good (or bad) as the people on this list
make it. 

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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-25 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
I am skipping the first round because there are some fresh ideas that
need to be displayed. Just waiting for the second to get some initial
draft aroun.

Luya

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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Beckwith

I'm new to newsgroups and such, so hopefully this goes out to everyone. I'm
just observing at the moment, as I am interested in doing graphic stuff for
linux, but don't know where I could start.

On 6/25/07, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am skipping the first round because there are some fresh ideas that
need to be displayed. Just waiting for the second to get some initial
draft aroun.

Luya

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Re: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder

2007-06-25 Thread Nicu Buculei

Michael Beckwith wrote:
I'm new to newsgroups and such, so hopefully this goes out to everyone. 


OK and welcome!

This is a particular discussion thread about artwork (wallpapers, splash 
screens) which will be included in Fedora 8, so if you want to talk 
about something else is better to ask in a new message, not in a reply 
to something not related, this way you have a chance to be better heard.


I'm just observing at the moment, as I am interested in doing graphic 
stuff for linux, but don't know where I could start.


Sure, this project is a very good place to start.
Just say what you are good at, what you like to do or what you want to 
learn and I am positive we will have a need and a place for it, we have 
a lot of open work: desktop graphics (wallpapers), desktop themes, 
icons, web graphics, print stuff, tutorials, even mascots and many other 
things I don't remember right now.


A good place to start is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork but there 
are many other things.


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