Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-05 Thread Nicu Buculei

Paul W. Frields wrote:

Now you guys are just making it harder to choose -- so many nice
options!


+1


Let me make a suggestion, though, which you guys could collaborate on --
can we get a sort of SVG collection template for these diagrams, which
also includes ?  Then people could use that to construct their own
diagrams, and know they'd end up with something with a Fedora look and
feel.


I would see it like a collection of clipart images: various diagram 
elements (stars, clouds, rectangles, ellipses, etc.), arrows and so, 
maybe a background texture so a new diagram could be made only with drag 
and drop.



A further suggestion would be that this template include a bit of
instruction on how to set fonts, connector widths, end points, and so
forth to achieve the desired consistency.  Those instructions could
always go on a wiki page around the template, for that matter.



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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-05 Thread Klaatu
Sort of an inkscape collection of diagram elements.  Yes, this is a good
idea.  I'm up for giving this a go during the course of the week, culling
the best of Ryan's diagram and mine.

-klaatu


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Paul W. Frields wrote:

 Now you guys are just making it harder to choose -- so many nice
 options!


 +1

 Let me make a suggestion, though, which you guys could collaborate on --
 can we get a sort of SVG collection template for these diagrams, which
 also includes ?  Then people could use that to construct their own
 diagrams, and know they'd end up with something with a Fedora look and
 feel.


 I would see it like a collection of clipart images: various diagram
 elements (stars, clouds, rectangles, ellipses, etc.), arrows and so, maybe a
 background texture so a new diagram could be made only with drag and drop.

  A further suggestion would be that this template include a bit of
 instruction on how to set fonts, connector widths, end points, and so
 forth to achieve the desired consistency.  Those instructions could
 always go on a wiki page around the template, for that matter.



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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-05 Thread ryan lerch
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Paul W. Frields wrote:

  Let me make a suggestion, though, which you guys could collaborate on --
 can we get a sort of SVG collection template for these diagrams, which
 also includes ?  Then people could use that to construct their own
 diagrams, and know they'd end up with something with a Fedora look and
 feel.


 I would see it like a collection of clipart images: various diagram
 elements (stars, clouds, rectangles, ellipses, etc.), arrows and so, maybe a
 background texture so a new diagram could be made only with drag and drop.


the main issue i have with diagrams in inkscape is the poor connectors
support. Connectors exist, but they don't work very well at all...

the 'user' of the template will have to use the align  distribute dialog a
lot to get arrows and to line up.

but that said, a generic template of assets for fedora diagrams would be a
great, er asset. :)

cheers,
ryanlerch
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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-05 Thread John Poelstra

John Poelstra said the following on 08/01/2008 03:37 PM Pacific Time:
Is there someone here that could help me re-factor this diagram into 
something that uses the page area a little better and uses the color 
palette in a pleasing way? :)




Big Thanks to Klaatu and Ryan for their help and quick turn around!

Is there a special trick to fix this problem?  I have seen it before, 
but never figured out why.  When I download the SVG file from the email 
attachment and try to open it with inkscape I get an error message of 
Failed to load the requested file.


My mail reader is thunderbird and I'm running inkscape-0.46-2.fc9.i386. 
 File permissions look good and it looks like a legitimate file... ?


$ file featureProcess.svg
featureProcess.svg: XML

Thanks again everyone!
John

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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 15:38 +1000, ryan lerch wrote:
 I had done this before the other drawing was posted by Klaatu and
 Gort. But i thought i would post it up anyway... 
 
 The SVG is attached, and is also available here:
 http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/festurerequestprocess.svg
 
 a PNG is available here:
 http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/featurerequestprocess.png
 
 feel free to change / add / remove any parts of this diagram to suit
 the needs of the process...
 
 hope this helps,
 
 ryanlerch
 

Hi all,

I like this one better than Klaatu's, though both are great! In this one
it seems the space is used slightly better, also it has more lively
colours/shading. I am unsure about the texture used in background
(vertical lines), but that's just my preference :-p

Just my €0.02,
Martin

PS: John, I've got no issues opening both SVGs in inkscape directly from
Evolution (fully up2date Fedora 9). Maybe problem with thunderbird?


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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

Klaatu and Gort wrote:
Yeah I like the MgOpen Modata font, very Fedora-y.  I don't see it in my 
F9/KDE4 system...I wonder if it's not included or if I accidentally 
ditched it.  Seems like a good one to have around.


I believe it is not installed by default so you have to yum install it.

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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 16:47 +1000, ryan lerch wrote:
 :) 
 its all good...
 im sure someone can use the assets in it for many other diagrams...

Now you guys are just making it harder to choose -- so many nice
options!

Let me make a suggestion, though, which you guys could collaborate on --
can we get a sort of SVG collection template for these diagrams, which
also includes ?  Then people could use that to construct their own
diagrams, and know they'd end up with something with a Fedora look and
feel.

A further suggestion would be that this template include a bit of
instruction on how to set fonts, connector widths, end points, and so
forth to achieve the desired consistency.  Those instructions could
always go on a wiki page around the template, for that matter.

What do you say, are you guys up for it?

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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-03 Thread Klaatu and Gort
my bad, ryan, i should have called dibs to avoid other people duplicating
work.  Sorry!

I like all the pretty shading on your version..   :p

-klaatu



2008/8/2 ryan lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I had done this before the other drawing was posted by Klaatu and Gort. But
 i thought i would post it up anyway...

 The SVG is attached, and is also available here:
 http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/festurerequestprocess.svg

 a PNG is available here:
 http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/featurerequestprocess.png

 feel free to change / add / remove any parts of this diagram to suit the
 needs of the process...

 hope this helps,

 ryanlerch



 2008/8/3 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 10:15 -0700, Klaatu and Gort wrote:
  Yeah I like the MgOpen Modata font, very Fedora-y.  I don't see it in
  my F9/KDE4 system...I wonder if it's not included or if I accidentally
  ditched it.  Seems like a good one to have around.
 
  Anyway thanks for posting it for me -- I wasn't really sure if I was
  supposed to let John post it or what the procedure was.

 It's no problem -- John and I collaborated on this process revamp so I
 didn't think it was too presumptuous to jump in. ;-)  If John finds an
 opportunity to improve it we can simply fix and repost, it's the FOSS
 way!

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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-03 Thread ryan lerch
:)
its all good...
im sure someone can use the assets in it for many other diagrams...

cheers,
ryanlerch

2008/8/3 Klaatu and Gort [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 my bad, ryan, i should have called dibs to avoid other people duplicating
 work.  Sorry!

 I like all the pretty shading on your version..   :p

 -klaatu



 2008/8/2 ryan lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I had done this before the other drawing was posted by Klaatu and Gort. But
 i thought i would post it up anyway...

 The SVG is attached, and is also available here:
 http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/festurerequestprocess.svg

 a PNG is available here:
 http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/featurerequestprocess.png

 feel free to change / add / remove any parts of this diagram to suit the
 needs of the process...

 hope this helps,

 ryanlerch



 2008/8/3 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 10:15 -0700, Klaatu and Gort wrote:
  Yeah I like the MgOpen Modata font, very Fedora-y.  I don't see it in
  my F9/KDE4 system...I wonder if it's not included or if I accidentally
  ditched it.  Seems like a good one to have around.
 
  Anyway thanks for posting it for me -- I wasn't really sure if I was
  supposed to let John post it or what the procedure was.

 It's no problem -- John and I collaborated on this process revamp so I
 didn't think it was too presumptuous to jump in. ;-)  If John finds an
 opportunity to improve it we can simply fix and repost, it's the FOSS
 way!

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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 18:06 -0700, Klaatu and Gort wrote:
 John
 I'm working on this now but there seem to be two different versions of
 the diagram.  I'm assuming it's the one immediately visible after
 clicking on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process
 but I'd like your confirmation on this before I get too far along on
 it.

I can confirm for you that's the right one. :-)

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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 09:08 -0700, Klaatu and Gort wrote:
 John,
 
 the flowchart reworked in inkscape is attached. let me know if changes
 are  needed or feel free to change it yourself.  Enjoy,

Nice work.  I put the source and a PNG up on the wiki page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process 

If there are tweaks we can just reupload as needed.  I used the MgOpen
Modata font in one place where it looked like I didn't have any match on
my system -- simply because that's more of an official Fedora font in
terms of what we've adopted.  I'm not married to it or anything. ;-)

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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-02 Thread Klaatu and Gort
Yeah I like the MgOpen Modata font, very Fedora-y.  I don't see it in my
F9/KDE4 system...I wonder if it's not included or if I accidentally ditched
it.  Seems like a good one to have around.

Anyway thanks for posting it for me -- I wasn't really sure if I was
supposed to let John post it or what the procedure was.

-klaatu




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 On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 09:08 -0700, Klaatu and Gort wrote:
  John,
 
  the flowchart reworked in inkscape is attached. let me know if changes
  are  needed or feel free to change it yourself.  Enjoy,

 Nice work.  I put the source and a PNG up on the wiki page:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process

 If there are tweaks we can just reupload as needed.  I used the MgOpen
 Modata font in one place where it looked like I didn't have any match on
 my system -- simply because that's more of an official Fedora font in
 terms of what we've adopted.  I'm not married to it or anything. ;-)

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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 10:15 -0700, Klaatu and Gort wrote:
 Yeah I like the MgOpen Modata font, very Fedora-y.  I don't see it in
 my F9/KDE4 system...I wonder if it's not included or if I accidentally
 ditched it.  Seems like a good one to have around.
 
 Anyway thanks for posting it for me -- I wasn't really sure if I was
 supposed to let John post it or what the procedure was.

It's no problem -- John and I collaborated on this process revamp so I
didn't think it was too presumptuous to jump in. ;-)  If John finds an
opportunity to improve it we can simply fix and repost, it's the FOSS
way!

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help with feature process diagram

2008-08-01 Thread John Poelstra
Is there someone here that could help me re-factor this diagram into 
something that uses the page area a little better and uses the color 
palette in a pleasing way? :)


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Features_Policy_feature-process-flow.odg

I'd prefer to keep it in oodraw or inkscape so I can make changes myself 
in the future if necessary.


Thanks,
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Re: help with feature process diagram

2008-08-01 Thread Klaatu and Gort
John
I'm working on this now but there seem to be two different versions of the
diagram.  I'm assuming it's the one immediately visible after clicking on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process   but I'd like your
confirmation on this before I get too far along on it.

-klaatu




On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:37 PM, John Poelstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there someone here that could help me re-factor this diagram into
 something that uses the page area a little better and uses the color palette
 in a pleasing way? :)

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Features_Policy_feature-process-flow.odg

 I'd prefer to keep it in oodraw or inkscape so I can make changes myself in
 the future if necessary.

 Thanks,
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