Re: new tshirts

2008-02-08 Thread Michael Beckwith
One idea I had last night while reading my e-mail offline at home, was 
putting the refined versions of Mairin's poster designs and using them 
on the shirts. The designs that have the 3 parts of one of Fedora's 
motto on it. We could sell them individually and perhaps as a 3 pack at 
a discount rate.


Max Spevack wrote:

Hi art team,

We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs.  I 
thought I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on 
ideas, etc.


This is a very liberal request -- I don't want to put any restrictions 
on your ideas or designs.


Stuff we are looking for:

* A general Fedora tshirt, to replace the one we have now that is 
just the Fedora logo on the front.  This will be our main swag item 
for, say, the next year.


* a tshirt for FUDCon at the Red Hat Summit in Boston, June 2008, for 
everyone who shows up.


* a tshirt for Fedora @ LinuxTag (biggest linux show in europe) in 
Berlin, May 2008, for the people in the booth and also as a giveaway.


* now that we have a codename for Fedora 9, maybe some sort of tshirt 
that is derived from the Fedora 9 theme/artwork.


Just thought I'd see what kind of discussion this generates, and try 
to start the discussion with a lot of lead time.


thanks!  As always, you guys are awesome.

--Max

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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-04 Thread Gerold
*bang**bang**bang*

Nicu, you're one of the guys who do a lot of and imho great work for us ...

I don't want to beat you down :-)

As written; I only wondered, see that modification of the logo and thought
I missed something; what can really happen (why not?) *g*

So feel free and modify again; you're Art-Team, me is only a small German
Ambassador who needs some times a lot of things from the Art-Team

Wish you a nice week-start

Gerold


 Gerold Kassube wrote:

 please excuse, but I have a basicly question because of the logo which
 is shown on the page ...
 Have we changed it in that way like Nico did, or did I miss that part?
 If not, I'll ask if its allowed to do so, manipulating a given
 brand ...

 It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my
 head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I
 was wrong.

 My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing,
 with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to
 the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some
 kind of dithering for light blue.

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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

Jeff Spaleta wrote:

On Feb 3, 2008 10:48 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing,
with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to
the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some
kind of dithering for light blue.


We don't have an official single color version of the logo already?


Nope - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines

The closest we have is black and white, but that is not single color, 
is black and gray.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-04 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Feb 3, 2008 10:48 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my
 head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I
 was wrong.

 My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing,
 with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to
 the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some
 kind of dithering for light blue.

We don't have an official single color version of the logo already?

-jef

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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-04 Thread Máirín Duffy

Jeff Spaleta wrote:

On Feb 3, 2008 10:48 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my
head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I
was wrong.

My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing,
with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to
the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some
kind of dithering for light blue.


We don't have an official single color version of the logo already?


Nope, there is no official version of a single color Fedora logo. We 
have a black and white version but it's really black, white, and grey. 
The version that Nicu came up with is really the only possible way to 
make the Fedora logo one-color. If there should be an official one-color 
version I would say Nicu's should be it, however, whenever possible I 
think we should avoid it just because it's easier to make out the 'f' in 
at least two colors.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-03 Thread Nicu Buculei

Gerold Kassube wrote:


please excuse, but I have a basicly question because of the logo which
is shown on the page ...
Have we changed it in that way like Nico did, or did I miss that part?
If not, I'll ask if its allowed to do so, manipulating a given
brand ...


It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my 
head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I 
was wrong.


My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing, 
with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to 
the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some 
kind of dithering for light blue.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-02 Thread Gerold Kassube
Hi,

please excuse, but I have a basicly question because of the logo which
is shown on the page ...
Have we changed it in that way like Nico did, or did I miss that part?
If not, I'll ask if its allowed to do so, manipulating a given
brand ...

I only want to ask, nothing more

Thanks

Gerold


Am Samstag, den 02.02.2008, 01:46 -0500 schrieb Máirín Duffy:
 Hey Nicu!
 
 Nicu Buculei wrote:
  I decided to break the ice and upload to the wiki page a very simple 
  generic design (monochrome, to save the price as much as possible), take 
  it as a challenge to show your designs too:
  
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt
  
  I also put on the page a couple of blank shirt templates (mane tshirt 
  and polo), with SVG sources, which can be used to create a realistic 
  preview of the final work, use them.
 
 Great idea, thanks for setting this page up! The templates look really 
 good. I just designed and uploaded a couple of FUDcon Boston tshirt ideas:
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#head-ab1701a84d5363f4c78ff3065420cea52600e4a0
 
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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-01 Thread Nicu Buculei
I decided to break the ice and upload to the wiki page a very simple 
generic design (monochrome, to save the price as much as possible), take 
it as a challenge to show your designs too:


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt

I also put on the page a couple of blank shirt templates (mane tshirt 
and polo), with SVG sources, which can be used to create a realistic 
preview of the final work, use them.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-02-01 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hey Nicu!

Nicu Buculei wrote:
I decided to break the ice and upload to the wiki page a very simple 
generic design (monochrome, to save the price as much as possible), take 
it as a challenge to show your designs too:


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt

I also put on the page a couple of blank shirt templates (mane tshirt 
and polo), with SVG sources, which can be used to create a realistic 
preview of the final work, use them.


Great idea, thanks for setting this page up! The templates look really 
good. I just designed and uploaded a couple of FUDcon Boston tshirt ideas:


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#head-ab1701a84d5363f4c78ff3065420cea52600e4a0

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Nicu Buculei

Max Spevack wrote:


We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs.  I thought 
I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on ideas, etc.


This is a very liberal request -- I don't want to put any restrictions 
on your ideas or designs.


It may be naive from my part to put such a question when I already 
anticipate the answer, but how about the tshirt colors?
Sure, the answer is: preferably the designs would work on a large 
variety of backgrounds, may it be white, black, dark blue, right blue, 
red, pink or whatever.
But from a design point of view it may be useful to know your target and 
use lighter colors for a dark background and darker colors for a light 
background (and avoid the same shade of blue for the graphic and the 
background).

One solution can be alternative designs, light and dark.

And another questions for the people on the list, as I personally don't 
have experience with printing tshirts in a professional manner: I 
understand we have to keep the colors count to a minimum due t price 
concerns, what is the maximum allowed number of colors, 3 or 4?


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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Gerold
 Max Spevack wrote:

 We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs.  I thought
 I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on ideas,
 etc.

 This is a very liberal request -- I don't want to put any restrictions
 on your ideas or designs.

 It may be naive from my part to put such a question when I already
 anticipate the answer, but how about the tshirt colors?
 Sure, the answer is: preferably the designs would work on a large
 variety of backgrounds, may it be white, black, dark blue, right blue,
 red, pink or whatever.
 But from a design point of view it may be useful to know your target and
 use lighter colors for a dark background and darker colors for a light
 background (and avoid the same shade of blue for the graphic and the
 background).
 One solution can be alternative designs, light and dark.

 And another questions for the people on the list, as I personally don't
 have experience with printing tshirts in a professional manner: I
 understand we have to keep the colors count to a minimum due t price
 concerns, what is the maximum allowed number of colors, 3 or 4?
^^
If I read this, ...
... Nico you raised up a wonderful idea in my brain. Let?s try to abstract
and tell you (I imagine, it's easy to realize) ...
have you ever seen the Ambassador Polos of Europe (there are existing
approx. 50 pcs. global)? If not please have a look at
https://kermit.homelinux.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=9986g2_imageViewsIndex=2
(shows max wearing one of these ...
If we now do the following for example: We create a design in general;
maybe Logo on front and a artwork on the back and then we go ahead and
define that we have two color-layouts or color-sheme, a layout/scheme for
inside fedora (maybe the dark blue one) and we have a community layout
(maybe with the light blue, or as a negative of the other one) ...
This could maybe bring the community/visitors of fairs closer to us and we
have a seperation of what is shown and who is part of what ...

just an idea, do you like it???'

regards

gerold

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Max Spevack

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote:

But from a design point of view it may be useful to know your target 
and use lighter colors for a dark background and darker colors for a 
light background (and avoid the same shade of blue for the graphic and 
the background). One solution can be alternative designs, light and 
dark.


I suppose if I had to pick, I'd say to target a white tshirt, since it's 
likely that a lot of colors in the Fedora Blue range might be used


But it doesn't really matter to me. :)

And another questions for the people on the list, as I personally 
don't have experience with printing tshirts in a professional manner: 
I understand we have to keep the colors count to a minimum due t price 
concerns, what is the maximum allowed number of colors, 3 or 4?


I don't actually know.  Our current Fedora shirts are only 2 colors... 
but the FUDCon tshirts we did last year definitely had more than that.


I think we could handle either 3 colors or 4... the price difference 
probably won't matter that much.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Max Spevack

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, María Leandro wrote:


we made one last year


Those shirts look really nice!

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Nicu Buculei

Jiri Jakub Masek wrote:
Hi people, how many colors in design? It depends on technology used to 
decorate t-shirt. So, what technology will be used?


I imagine the intention is to produce quality stuff, so no inkjet 
printing. I believe the factory was not identified yet, so the details 
are not know, but probably a kind on screen printing (serigraphy) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen-printing


We have to keep the color count as low as possible, 1-2, but we may try 
an 3-4 color extravaganza.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Nicu Buculei

Max Spevack wrote:
We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs.  I thought 
I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on ideas, etc.


I created a wiki page where anyone can upload his ideas, for now it is a 
skeleton, awaiting your graphics:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt

We can put there as many designs as we want, even if they will not be 
selected as official is good to have them available for those who want 
to download and print themselves.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Jiri Jakub Masek
Hi, and what about the size of design? 10x10 inches, or?

JJM

2008/1/30, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Jiri Jakub Masek wrote:
  Hi people, how many colors in design? It depends on technology used to
  decorate t-shirt. So, what technology will be used?

 I imagine the intention is to produce quality stuff, so no inkjet
 printing. I believe the factory was not identified yet, so the details
 are not know, but probably a kind on screen printing (serigraphy)
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen-printing

 We have to keep the color count as low as possible, 1-2, but we may try
 an 3-4 color extravaganza.

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Max Spevack

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Jiri Jakub Masek wrote:


Hi, and what about the size of design? 10x10 inches, or?


Whatever you want once there are some cool designs that we like, 
we'll figure out to work them into the the final products.


I purposefully didn't want to start putting restrictions on the designs, 
shapes, colors, etc.  I want people to be free to be artistic, and then 
we'll figure out the best way to produce shirts with the final result.


But 10x10 is a lot of space, so that's probably a fair guideline.

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Jan 29, 2008 12:52 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could there be a women's sized version of this as well as a men's sized?

+1
... and a baby onesy, that says Future Fedora Contributor


-jefIf I had budget powers here is what I would do about
t-shirts...make a set of special Fedora Curling League shirts, talk to
someone at the Triangle Curling Club in NC and find out how much it
would cost to sponsor a small tournament...have all the competitors
wear the t-shirts..and send Colby in to make a video of the event.
This is why I don't have budget powersspaleta

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Max Spevack

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Jeff Spaleta wrote:

-jefIf I had budget powers here is what I would do about 
t-shirts...make a set of special Fedora Curling League shirts, talk to 
someone at the Triangle Curling Club in NC and find out how much it 
would cost to sponsor a small tournament...have all the competitors 
wear the t-shirts..and send Colby in to make a video of the event. 
This is why I don't have budget powersspaleta


DENIED -- lack of budget :P

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Anuja KR
hi,
is it possible to upload the previous tshirt designs(fedora). 'cause I
joined recently and have no idea about these tshirts.
thank you.
anuja

On Jan 30, 2008 2:45 AM, Max Spevack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi art team,

 We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs.  I thought
 I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on ideas,
 etc.

 This is a very liberal request -- I don't want to put any restrictions
 on your ideas or designs.

 Stuff we are looking for:

 * A general Fedora tshirt, to replace the one we have now that is just
 the Fedora logo on the front.  This will be our main swag item for,
 say, the next year.

 * a tshirt for FUDCon at the Red Hat Summit in Boston, June 2008, for
 everyone who shows up.

 * a tshirt for Fedora @ LinuxTag (biggest linux show in europe) in
 Berlin, May 2008, for the people in the booth and also as a giveaway.

 * now that we have a codename for Fedora 9, maybe some sort of tshirt
 that is derived from the Fedora 9 theme/artwork.

 Just thought I'd see what kind of discussion this generates, and try to
 start the discussion with a lot of lead time.

 thanks!  As always, you guys are awesome.

 --Max

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Nicu Buculei

Jiri Jakub Masek wrote:

Hi, and what about the size of design? 10x10 inches, or?


I guess the best option is to make them as vector images (this is 
recommended for print anyway), so we can resize them, make variation for 
front/back/pocket or men/women/babies.


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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-30 Thread Jiri Jakub Masek
Hi people, this is old,old,old tale, but have you seen what is on this link?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ExperimentalDesigns/FedoraTangramT-shirts

Yes, I know it's unuseable as is, but it can inspirate, or not?

JJM

2008/1/31, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Anuja KR wrote:
  is it possible to upload the previous tshirt designs(fedora). 'cause I
  joined recently and have no idea about these tshirts.

 The previous designs were handled on a local (closed) basis, this is the
 first time we try do design a tshirt in this community.

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new tshirts

2008-01-29 Thread Max Spevack

Hi art team,

We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs.  I thought 
I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on ideas, 
etc.


This is a very liberal request -- I don't want to put any restrictions 
on your ideas or designs.


Stuff we are looking for:

* A general Fedora tshirt, to replace the one we have now that is just 
the Fedora logo on the front.  This will be our main swag item for, 
say, the next year.


* a tshirt for FUDCon at the Red Hat Summit in Boston, June 2008, for 
everyone who shows up.


* a tshirt for Fedora @ LinuxTag (biggest linux show in europe) in 
Berlin, May 2008, for the people in the booth and also as a giveaway.


* now that we have a codename for Fedora 9, maybe some sort of tshirt 
that is derived from the Fedora 9 theme/artwork.


Just thought I'd see what kind of discussion this generates, and try to 
start the discussion with a lot of lead time.


thanks!  As always, you guys are awesome.

--Max

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-29 Thread Máirín Duffy

Max Spevack wrote:

Hi art team,

We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs.  I thought 
I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on ideas, etc.


This is a very liberal request -- I don't want to put any restrictions 
on your ideas or designs.


Stuff we are looking for:

* A general Fedora tshirt, to replace the one we have now that is just 
the Fedora logo on the front.  This will be our main swag item for, 
say, the next year.


Could there be a women's sized version of this as well as a men's sized? 
Even a men's cut only would be okay if it was available in small. If any 
tshirt had both I think it should be this one since it is so basic?


Some ideas for this one:

- just a simple, medium-sized fedora logo (probably the vertical 
version) in the mid-chest area. On the back, a slogan... maybe Freedom 
is a feature. or freedom | infinity | community  with a link to 
fedoraproject.org. It would be nice if it was in a dark blue, maybe the 
same color as the infinity loop in the logo, then it's one less color to 
print and a little cheaper to do.


- an opposite of the first idea... a clever kind of slogan on the front 
with the fedora on the back as the 'answer', the problem is the more 
clever the slogan likely the less translatable. i was thinking 'got 
freedom?' on the front center with the fedora logo large on the back, 
but there are a few languages that wouldn't work for.


- a catchy graphic design on the front with the fedora logo on the back. 
not sure what the catchy graphic would be either. we could pick one of 
the 'freedom | infinity | community' ideas to focus on for the shirt (or 
even have a separate design for each concept :) ) and use that depiction 
for the front with the fedora logo and website url on the back. the 
graphic should be visually interesting and appeal to folks who aren't 
necessarily geeks, the idea being we want it to spark folks to ask the 
tshirt wearer about fedora. :)


Will the tshirts be produced centrally and shipped out, or will separate 
locales be producing them locally? Perhaps if we go with some kind of 
slogan we can provide the source artwork for everything and make it such 
that it is easy to replace the text with a more appropriate slogan for 
that locale.


* a tshirt for FUDCon at the Red Hat Summit in Boston, June 2008, for 
everyone who shows up.


A few questions on this one:

* Are there any sponsors that have to be listed on this shirt?
* Does this need to have any Red Hat Summit logos or messaging on it or 
can it be just FUDCon centric?


Some ideas:

- some kind of boston-centric design on front with the fudcon boston 
logo on back. e.g. the boston sunset skyline with a fedora logo as the 
sun with it reflecting on boston harbor :), or maybe the Boston T trains 
with the T logo replaced with the Fedora f logo...


- do we know what kind of outfits the summit folks are doing for the 
show workers if any? I remember one year at linux world we did red hat 
baseball jerseys, and one year at the summit there were red hat 
cowboy/rodeo shirts - it might be cool to have a shirt that complements 
the summit outfits. e.g., if the summit was doing red hat baseball 
jerseys, we could do fedora tshirts that were styled to look like 
'fedora' team baseball shirts


* a tshirt for Fedora @ LinuxTag (biggest linux show in europe) in 
Berlin, May 2008, for the people in the booth and also as a giveaway.


Similar question here, are there sponsors that have to be listed on the 
shirt?


Is LinuxTag very commercial or is it developer-centric or a mix? Trying 
to get a feel of what kind of show it is... do we want a shirt that is 
specific to the event (seems to be appropriate for developer-centric 
conferences) or do we want a more generic/re-usable Fedora shirt (seems 
more appropriate for more commercial or user-centric conferences).


* now that we have a codename for Fedora 9, maybe some sort of tshirt 
that is derived from the Fedora 9 theme/artwork.


Hehe, hopefully we'll have some more artwork for that soon.


Just thought I'd see what kind of discussion this generates, and try to 
start the discussion with a lot of lead time.


Thanks, it's a good idea, earlier is always better :)

~m

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Re: new tshirts

2008-01-29 Thread Max Spevack

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote:

* A general Fedora tshirt, to replace the one we have now that is 
just the Fedora logo on the front.  This will be our main swag item 
for, say, the next year.


Could there be a women's sized version of this as well as a men's 
sized? Even a men's cut only would be okay if it was available in 
small. If any tshirt had both I think it should be this one since it 
is so basic?


Absolutely.

Will the tshirts be produced centrally and shipped out, or will 
separate locales be producing them locally? Perhaps if we go with some 
kind of slogan we can provide the source artwork for everything and 
make it such that it is easy to replace the text with a more 
appropriate slogan for that locale.


Can't say for sure, but I *hope* it can be done in a way that we can 
hand the graphics to companies in different regions, and produce 
locally.


So we could have the same general concept, but have the text be 
translated or something for different regions.


* a tshirt for FUDCon at the Red Hat Summit in Boston, June 2008, for 
everyone who shows up.


A few questions on this one:

* Are there any sponsors that have to be listed on this shirt?
* Does this need to have any Red Hat Summit logos or messaging on it 
or can it be just FUDCon centric?


No sponsors, other than Red Hat, but we don't have to put shadowman on 
the shirt unless we want to.


If the designers want to make it related somehow to the RH Summit theme, 
that's fine (I'm not sure that the theme has been decided yet).  It 
could also be totally independent.


- do we know what kind of outfits the summit folks are doing for the 
show workers if any? I remember one year at linux world we did red hat 
baseball jerseys, and one year at the summit there were red hat 
cowboy/rodeo shirts - it might be cool to have a shirt that 
complements the summit outfits. e.g., if the summit was doing red hat 
baseball jerseys, we could do fedora tshirts that were styled to look 
like 'fedora' team baseball shirts


I don't think that stuff has been decided yet, but once it is, it would 
be a good idea to at least think about some sort of tie-in.


* a tshirt for Fedora @ LinuxTag (biggest linux show in europe) in 
Berlin, May 2008, for the people in the booth and also as a giveaway.


Similar question here, are there sponsors that have to be listed on 
the shirt?


Nope.

Is LinuxTag very commercial or is it developer-centric or a mix? 
Trying to get a feel of what kind of show it is... do we want a shirt 
that is specific to the event (seems to be appropriate for 
developer-centric conferences) or do we want a more generic/re-usable 
Fedora shirt (seems more appropriate for more commercial or 
user-centric conferences).


I found it to be very user/developer-centric.  Last year our Fedora 
booth was right in there with Ubuntu, openSUSE, debian, gnome, kde, etc. 
etc.


I think that if we had a shirt specific for that event that our booth 
staff was wearing and that we were raffling off or selling, it would go 
over very well.



Thanks, it's a good idea, earlier is always better :)


Hope this helps!  Thanks so much...

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