Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-08 Thread Nicu Buculei

Gerold Kassube wrote:


On the other hand:
Why we don't create such "official stickers" and announce them for free
usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be
"stolen" from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/

If we have such things all can be use the correct ones, ...
... and we have maybe less "problems" :-/


If you think this is useful, I can upload my stickers to the wiki. I 
think I follow the trademark guidelines closely.


And that sticker does not look like a derivative from my sources, 
probably we both used the same visual reference from elsewhere.



Gerold Kassube wrote:

please excuse, is this an "official Sticker" which can be used, produced
and sell by anyone?

Take a look at
http://www.linux-onlineshop.de/product_info.php/info/p1113_Notebook-Sticker-Fedora.html


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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 11:22 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
> Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
> 
> > Is there any candidate proposals that are accepted within the art work 
> > team. Mo should be able to tell you whether they match the usage 
> > guidelines for the logo. That is all that matter IMO.
> 
> You have one series there
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-fr-list/2006-November/msg00113.html

And others there:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/
http://beranger.org/index.php?fullarticle=2587&page=3k
http://www.it2l.com/product_info.php?products_id=905&osCsid=c6891aa29d8ba9834c19d8cfe00db980
http://www.linux-onlineshop.de/product_info.php/info/p1153_PC-Sticker---Fedora-Linux.html
http://www.fidu.de/product_info.php/info/p1149_Notebook-Sticker--powered-by-Fedora.html

Just google Fedora sticker the net is awash with them

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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:30 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :

> Is there any candidate proposals that are accepted within the art work 
> team. Mo should be able to tell you whether they match the usage 
> guidelines for the logo. That is all that matter IMO.

You have one series there
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-fr-list/2006-November/msg00113.html

Honestly the basic concept is more or less always the same, so if Mo is
trusted with the whole sticker thing I suspect it'll be faster to let
her just design a good one than hunt for all the variants that exist in
the wild.

But if you insist you'll have to ask the marketing lists. They are the
ones who know what has been produced in each country.

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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :

Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit :


Why we don't create such "official stickers" and announce them for free
usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be
"stolen" from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/

To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora
lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make
official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this
sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones.

So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki?


IIRC the main stumbling block was trademark issues since such a sticker
is pretty much limited by area to a re-composing of the Fedora logo. So
the trademark guardians need to state clearly what they are ready to
accept.


Is there any candidate proposals that are accepted within the art work 
team. Mo should be able to tell you whether they match the usage 
guidelines for the logo. That is all that matter IMO.


Rahul

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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-08 Thread Gerold Kassube
Am Sonntag, den 08.07.2007, 14:10 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
 ... 

> sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones.
> 
> So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki?
^^
THIS was my thinking an wishes which I want to have be done with my
mail ...

... and if we're on the way to do so 

... we should also create layouts for "printwork" for various usage like
- keychains
- stickers
  - for Front-Side of Desktops
  - in the size like the "intel inside"-Logo
  - for cars
- for magnetic pins
- for pins in general
and so on ...

I'm sure we find a lot of usage where we need and WANT to have "our
logo" on ...

Creating a special Wikipage and announce that usage for everyone should
be the easier work which has to be done :-)

Regards

Gerold


PS.: maybe we can also vote in the community for "each" design and
usage :-)



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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 08 juillet 2007 à 14:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit :
> > 
> >> Why we don't create such "official stickers" and announce them for free
> >> usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be
> >> "stolen" from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/
> > 
> > To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora
> > lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make
> > official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this
> > sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones.
> 
> So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki?

IIRC the main stumbling block was trademark issues since such a sticker
is pretty much limited by area to a re-composing of the Fedora logo. So
the trademark guardians need to state clearly what they are ready to
accept.

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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit :


Why we don't create such "official stickers" and announce them for free
usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be
"stolen" from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/


To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora
lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make
official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this
sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones.


So why don't we finish the design and put up in the wiki?

Rahul

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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le samedi 07 juillet 2007 à 21:28 +0200, Gerold Kassube a écrit :

> Why we don't create such "official stickers" and announce them for free
> usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be
> "stolen" from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/

To be fair I've seen very similar stickers discussed on local Fedora
lists, so the shop probably lifted a design we failed to finish and make
official. I wouldn't be surprised if an extensive search found this
sticker either on current fedora wiki pages or on archived ones.

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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-07 Thread Gerold Kassube
Rahul,

I'll do so; there are more than only "one" violation.
I asked within another question also in the Ambassador-ML and also
informed the Webshop and legal .

On the other hand:
Why we don't create such "official stickers" and announce them for free
usage on the fedorawiki; we can see, that the used sticker seems to be
"stolen" from Nicu from his page at http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/

If we have such things all can be use the correct ones, ...
... and we have maybe less "problems" :-/

Just my five cents

Regards

Gerold






Am Sonntag, den 08.07.2007, 00:39 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> Gerold Kassube wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > please excuse, is this an "official Sticker" which can be used, produced
> > and sell by anyone?
> > 
> > Take a look at
> > http://www.linux-onlineshop.de/product_info.php/info/p1113_Notebook-Sticker-Fedora.html
> > 
> > I wonder, because I never saw, that we call it "Fedora linux" ...
> > 
> > Just a question :-)
> 
> No and it is likely a violation of our trademark guidelines to do this. 
> If you have a contact address, drop them a mail and point them to the 
> guidelines.
> 
> Rahul
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Re: "official" Sticker?

2007-07-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Gerold Kassube wrote:

Hi,

please excuse, is this an "official Sticker" which can be used, produced
and sell by anyone?

Take a look at
http://www.linux-onlineshop.de/product_info.php/info/p1113_Notebook-Sticker-Fedora.html

I wonder, because I never saw, that we call it "Fedora linux" ...

Just a question :-)


No and it is likely a violation of our trademark guidelines to do this. 
If you have a contact address, drop them a mail and point them to the 
guidelines.


Rahul

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"official" Sticker?

2007-07-07 Thread Gerold Kassube
Hi,

please excuse, is this an "official Sticker" which can be used, produced
and sell by anyone?

Take a look at
http://www.linux-onlineshop.de/product_info.php/info/p1113_Notebook-Sticker-Fedora.html

I wonder, because I never saw, that we call it "Fedora linux" ...

Just a question :-)


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