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Valent Turkovic wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: (do these seem right?) Will there be a resolution of 800x480 for Asus eee? Cheers, Valent. Never mind I saw that it will. Valent. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Máirín Duffy wrote: (do these seem right?) Will there be a resolution of 800x480 for Asus eee? Cheers, Valent. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Mark wrote: Are those nice wallpapers gonna be in fedora 9 now? because we are past the final freeze now.. Or is this gonna be saved for F10? I'm being told by mizmo that it'll be fine. I'm making a few quick edits at her request, so I'm sure they're fine. The current versions are at http://slarti.ianweller.org/waves-0.1.1/. You can also see the Makefile and GIMP script I used there. mizmo has asked me to add a bit of a purple hue to the morning one, since morn and noon are very similar. If someone is willing, could they check the waves.xml file there? -- ian ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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2008/4/10, Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > > It is possible to convert with GIMP from SVG to PNG in a scripted way > (command line)? > > Is it acceptable to include Inkscape or GIMP in the build system? (they > will drag a lot of dependencies and Inkscape is not even "core"). ImageMagik > is *not* acceptable as a solution (bad SVG support). > > > > > The process is: > inkscape converts SVG to PNG > GIMP edits levels, fixes bends, and blurs > composite and convert (from ImageMagick) overlay, scale, crop, etc. > It's basically a 3-tiered process. > > I'm also thinking of using optipng to make the output PNGs smaller. So > that makes 4-tiers. > > -- ian Are those nice wallpapers gonna be in fedora 9 now? because we are past the final freeze now.. Or is this gonna be saved for F10? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: It is possible to convert with GIMP from SVG to PNG in a scripted way (command line)? Is it acceptable to include Inkscape or GIMP in the build system? (they will drag a lot of dependencies and Inkscape is not even "core"). ImageMagik is *not* acceptable as a solution (bad SVG support). The process is: inkscape converts SVG to PNG GIMP edits levels, fixes bends, and blurs composite and convert (from ImageMagick) overlay, scale, crop, etc. It's basically a 3-tiered process. I'm also thinking of using optipng to make the output PNGs smaller. So that makes 4-tiers. -- ian ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:05 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > On 4/8/08, Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is what I'm worried about. Right now I'm only doing the 4:3 > screen ratio because of that. Are we going to expand the image or just > cut it off (mostly on the bottom, of course, so that we don't cut off > the waves)... If rule of thirds was put in place, a lot of that would be sorted. > and in the case of dual screens, do you think it's OK to > just have it repeat on both screens? As tests are put up, I will take screenshots, send a link to the list. For some dual feedback? Frank signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Ian Weller wrote: Also, if you haven't seen, ricky and I in #fedora-art were discussing the possibility of creating the SRPM for the wallpapers with just the SVGs and the spec file would direct rpmbuild to render the PNGs. It would be nice for those who would like to *easily* find the vector source and how exactly it was rendered in CVS. I spent last night creating the command line and GIMP script to create the different times of day and add the sparkles. I posted this link to #fedora-art. It is possible to convert with GIMP from SVG to PNG in a scripted way (command line)? Is it acceptable to include Inkscape or GIMP in the build system? (they will drag a lot of dependencies and Inkscape is not even "core"). ImageMagik is *not* acceptable as a solution (bad SVG support). The easiest way to produce PNGs from SVGs in a scripted way is using Inkscape: "inkscape --export-png=FILENAME --export-width=WIDTH" -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On 4/8/08, Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:41 +0200, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > I'll render 1600x1200. Should be done near 03:00 UTC or so. > > > Theoretically we shouldn't have to render any other 4:3 wallpapers, > > > unless we want larger, which we shouldn't need. -- ian > > > > Seems big enough to me. > > Best to just provide the SVG image as well incase someone wants to > > render a even bigger image. > > > What would be the recommended for "xinerama" settings? > (Im my case 2880x900,1440x2) > > This is what I'm worried about. Right now I'm only doing the 4:3 screen ratio because of that. Are we going to expand the image or just cut it off (mostly on the bottom, of course, so that we don't cut off the waves)... and in the case of dual screens, do you think it's OK to just have it repeat on both screens? Also, if you haven't seen, ricky and I in #fedora-art were discussing the possibility of creating the SRPM for the wallpapers with just the SVGs and the spec file would direct rpmbuild to render the PNGs. It would be nice for those who would like to *easily* find the vector source and how exactly it was rendered in CVS. I spent last night creating the command line and GIMP script to create the different times of day and add the sparkles. I posted this link to #fedora-art. -- ian ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:41 +0200, Mark wrote: > > > > > I'll render 1600x1200. Should be done near 03:00 UTC or so. > > Theoretically we shouldn't have to render any other 4:3 wallpapers, > > unless we want larger, which we shouldn't need. -- ian > > Seems big enough to me. > Best to just provide the SVG image as well incase someone wants to > render a even bigger image. What would be the recommended for "xinerama" settings? (Im my case 2880x900,1440x2) Frank signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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2008/4/8, Ian Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > > > > > > Normal Ratio: > > > - 2560x1600 > > > > > > > that one is widescreen > > > > > > > - 1600x1200 > > > - 1024x768 > > > - 800x600 > > > > > > Widescreen Ratio: > > > - 1680x1050 > > > - 1440x900 > > > - 1280x800 > > > > > > > I believe there is also 1920x1200 > > > > > > > (do these seem right?) > > > > > > > Currently we have in Rawhide also: > > - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) > > - 800x480 (Eee PC) > > > > Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 > for normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is the > case in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. > > > > > I'll render 1600x1200. Should be done near 03:00 UTC or so. > Theoretically we shouldn't have to render any other 4:3 wallpapers, > unless we want larger, which we shouldn't need. -- ian Seems big enough to me. Best to just provide the SVG image as well incase someone wants to render a even bigger image. 2008/4/7, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Mark, > > Mark wrote: > > > The sizes you posted seem right to me.. > > But about the sizes.. Nautilus can handly SVG backgrounds so why not > > put that one in the dist? then you can drop all the other images.. > > unless that's not gonna work with day/night wallpapers (fancy and nice > > but not really useful anyway). > > > > I don't think Nautilus can handle the blur filter in the backgrounds. Also > I still think librsvg doesn't support the SVG cropping functionality (for > widescreen) Hi Perhaps that's something the fedora people should put on the todo list (for Fedora 10)? When this is made you never have to include png/jpeg or even multiple wallpapers of the same image.. you just render the wallpaper for the screen size on firstboot and your done. That's a big advantage! and saves some space as well (with current wallpapers i guess it could save about 30MB?) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Normal Ratio: - 2560x1600 that one is widescreen - 1600x1200 - 1024x768 - 800x600 Widescreen Ratio: - 1680x1050 - 1440x900 - 1280x800 I believe there is also 1920x1200 (do these seem right?) Currently we have in Rawhide also: - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) - 800x480 (Eee PC) Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 for normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is the case in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. I'll render 1600x1200. Should be done near 03:00 UTC or so. Theoretically we shouldn't have to render any other 4:3 wallpapers, unless we want larger, which we shouldn't need. -- ian___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Pavel Shevchuk wrote: From package description: ImageMagick can read and write JPEG, TIFF, PNM, GIF, and Photo CD image formats I meant to package ridiculously large PNGs with different aspect ratios, then scale them down Oh okay. I don't know if we have much room for the ~2-3 MB initial image we'd need to ship on the LiveCD but I can ask. That's a great idea though, thanks! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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>From package description: ImageMagick can read and write JPEG, TIFF, PNM, GIF, and Photo CD image formats I meant to package ridiculously large PNGs with different aspect ratios, then scale them down On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > > You can put in package largest square and wide wpaps and on package > > installation call imagemagick to scale them down to different sizes > > > > Does imagemagick support the SVG blur filter? > > > > ~m > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Pavel Shevchuk wrote: You can put in package largest square and wide wpaps and on package installation call imagemagick to scale them down to different sizes Does imagemagick support the SVG blur filter? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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You can put in package largest square and wide wpaps and on package installation call imagemagick to scale them down to different sizes On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Máirín Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > > Mark wrote: > > > The sizes you posted seem right to me.. > > But about the sizes.. Nautilus can handly SVG backgrounds so why not > > put that one in the dist? then you can drop all the other images.. > > unless that's not gonna work with day/night wallpapers (fancy and nice > > but not really useful anyway). > > > > I don't think Nautilus can handle the blur filter in the backgrounds. Also > I still think librsvg doesn't support the SVG cropping functionality (for > widescreen) > > ~m > > > > ___ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Hi Mark, Mark wrote: The sizes you posted seem right to me.. But about the sizes.. Nautilus can handly SVG backgrounds so why not put that one in the dist? then you can drop all the other images.. unless that's not gonna work with day/night wallpapers (fancy and nice but not really useful anyway). I don't think Nautilus can handle the blur filter in the backgrounds. Also I still think librsvg doesn't support the SVG cropping functionality (for widescreen) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Normal Ratio: - 2560x1600 that one is widescreen Whoops I meant 2560x1920! good catch. - 1600x1200 - 1024x768 - 800x600 Widescreen Ratio: - 1680x1050 - 1440x900 - 1280x800 I believe there is also 1920x1200 (do these seem right?) Currently we have in Rawhide also: - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) - 800x480 (Eee PC) +1 Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 for normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is the case in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. Well, I'm not sure. For Live CDs I think 2560x1920 (~2-3MB) is going to be too much. Maybe we should pick the largest sane widescreen + normal and then just let folks scale down from that? Nautilus' scaling down of the wallpaper does a very good job IMHO. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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2008/4/7, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > > > Normal Ratio: > > - 2560x1600 > > > > that one is widescreen > > > > - 1600x1200 > > - 1024x768 > > - 800x600 > > > > Widescreen Ratio: > > - 1680x1050 > > - 1440x900 > > - 1280x800 > > > > I believe there is also 1920x1200 > > > > (do these seem right?) > > > > Currently we have in Rawhide also: > - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) > - 800x480 (Eee PC) > > Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 for > normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is the case > in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. The sizes you posted seem right to me.. But about the sizes.. Nautilus can handly SVG backgrounds so why not put that one in the dist? then you can drop all the other images.. unless that's not gonna work with day/night wallpapers (fancy and nice but not really useful anyway). ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Máirín Duffy wrote: Normal Ratio: - 2560x1600 that one is widescreen - 1600x1200 - 1024x768 - 800x600 Widescreen Ratio: - 1680x1050 - 1440x900 - 1280x800 I believe there is also 1920x1200 (do these seem right?) Currently we have in Rawhide also: - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) - 800x480 (Eee PC) Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 for normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is the case in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi folks, So here is what has to be done to get this new wallpaper into rawhide & the release candidate: 1 - integrate hi-res (2560x1920) render of background [1] with the sparkles svg [2] so they are the same size and line up. Export this. Would help if I provided them eh? :) [1] http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/hi-res/0008_2560x1920.png [2] http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/hi-res/sparkles-1.svg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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Hi folks, So here is what has to be done to get this new wallpaper into rawhide & the release candidate: 1 - integrate hi-res (2560x1920) render of background [1] with the sparkles svg [2] so they are the same size and line up. Export this. 2 - from the integrated 2560x1920 bitmap, create the 4 time-of-day colors. Do this *before* proceeding to the next step so you can get feedback before finding out after going thru all the resolution iterations that the coloring/shading was off. Thus far we've heard a few complaints that the proposed daylight one is way too bright. 3 - from the integrated 2560x1920 bitmap, iterate through to create a full set of background sizes, cropping from the bottom when necessary to achieve a widescreen ratio. Here are the sizes I think we should target (let me know what you think): Normal Ratio: - 2560x1600 - 1600x1200 - 1024x768 - 800x600 Widescreen Ratio: - 1680x1050 - 1440x900 - 1280x800 (do these seem right?) I'm going to start working on this tonight but if you've got some spare time today and want to help out please feel free to get started on steps #1 and #2. I'll be in #fedora-art on freenode and also on list of course so we can sync up tonight. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
