BlueJ Advice Needed

2009-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)

Hoping to package BlueJ.
http://www.bluej.org/about/what.html


Q1:
http://www.bluej.org/download/download.html
Downloadable jar file, (and use contents of)
or
http://www.bluej.org/download/source-download.html
Contains mix of Win\Mac\*nix stuff in the source zip

Q2:
The third party bits that are required to run the BlueJ,
have to be removed from the BlueJ Package as per
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-June/msg4.html

If not already included in FP,
they would have to be packaged separately,
from their upstream sites?

Q3:
Is there anyone in devel-list who has packaged *java apps* who
would be willing to guide me as this would be my first package.


Q4:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Java
is most current re. java?


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Re: Interested in scanning?

2009-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 06/05/2009 10:05 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:

On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 16:32 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:


It crashes every time when I am trying to scan with a GUI, the only way
to do somehing without a crash is using scanimage from commandline,
which is aborting with "scanimage: received signal 15".


Before reporting, you might want to try the command line scanner tool
scanimage:
scanimage --format=tiff --reslution=300>  scan.tiff
and see what happens. That should help you understand if the issue is
with sane-backends or elsewhere.
The -L and -T options will be usefull too.


As said above:

[Desktop]$ scanimage --format=tiff --resolution=300 > scan.tiff
scanimage: received signal 15
scanimage: trying to stop scanner
scanimage: received signal 15
scanimage: aborting

[Desktop]$ scanimage -T
scanimage: received signal 15
scanimage: trying to stop scanner
scanimage: received signal 15
scanimage: aborting

[Desktop]$ scanimage -L
device `avision:libusb:003:003' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 5370C 
flatbed scanner


It is somewhat better: at least X is not crashing this way.

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Re: Interested in scanning?

2009-06-09 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 09:54 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > 
> > I prefixed it with "for me", i know it works for some people.
> > 
> > 
> 
> You might try compiling SANE 1.0.20. There were tons of changes
> in-between 1.0.19 and 1.0.20. I don't see a F11 or F12 build for 1.0.20
> in koji... you might want to file a bug on it.

There's already a bug about it ;-). I'm working on official 1.0.20
packages, unfortunately there are already too many patches in there
which make this not quite straight forward as it sounds. Thankfully,
I'll soon be able to devote more time to OS things than in the past.

Frontend-wise I'm rather missing tools for sensible batch-processing
(we've about 2000 slides that are waiting to be digitized) than
something "simple" like gnome-scan, but IMO most real problems are on
the backend side anyway.

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Broken dependencies in Fedora 10 - 2009-06-09

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
==
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
==

Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name):

cabal2spec
db4o
dinotrace
gadget
llvm
php
python-morbid
python-repoze-what




==
Broken packages in fedora-10-ppc:

db4o-6.1-4.fc9.ppc  requires  mono(Mono.Cecil) = 0:0.6.8.8607
llvm-devel-2.3-2.fc10.ppc64  requires  llvm = 0:2.3-2.fc10
php-devel-5.2.6-5.ppc64  requires  php = 0:5.2.6-5


==
Broken packages in fedora-10-x86_64:

php-devel-5.2.6-5.i386  requires  php = 0:5.2.6-5


==
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-i386:

emacs-dinotrace-9.4a-2.fc10.i386  requires  dinotrace-9.4a
python-morbid-0.8.6.1-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-stomper


==
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-ppc:

emacs-dinotrace-9.4a-2.fc10.ppc  requires  dinotrace-9.4a
python-morbid-0.8.6.1-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-stomper


==
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-ppc64:

cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc10.noarch  requires  ghc > 0:6.10.1-7
emacs-dinotrace-9.4a-2.fc10.ppc64  requires  dinotrace-9.4a
gadget-0.0.3-2.fc10.noarch  requires  ejabberd
python-morbid-0.8.6.1-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-stomper


==
Broken packages in fedora-updates-10-x86_64:

emacs-dinotrace-9.4a-2.fc10.x86_64  requires  dinotrace-9.4a
python-morbid-0.8.6.1-1.fc10.noarch  requires  python-stomper


==
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-i386:

python-repoze-what-docs-1.0.8-1.fc10.noarch  requires  
python-repoze-what-1.0.8


==
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-ppc:

python-repoze-what-docs-1.0.8-1.fc10.noarch  requires  
python-repoze-what-1.0.8


==
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-ppc64:

python-repoze-what-docs-1.0.8-1.fc10.noarch  requires  
python-repoze-what-1.0.8


==
Broken packages in fedora-updates-testing-10-x86_64:

python-repoze-what-docs-1.0.8-1.fc10.noarch  requires  
python-repoze-what-1.0.8

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 08.06.2009, 20:47 + schrieb David Zeuthen: 
> Author: davidz

[snipped]

> --- NEW FILE polkit-gnome.spec ---
> Summary: PolicyKit integration for the GNOME desktop
> Name: polkit-gnome
> Version: 0.92
> Release: 1%{?dist}
> License: LGPLv2
> URL: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PolicyKit
> Group: Applications/System
> Source0: http://hal.freedesktop.org/releases/%{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
> BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root
> BuildRequires: gtk2-devel
> BuildRequires: polkit-devel >= 0.92
> BuildRequires: desktop-file-utils
> 
> # for /usr/share/gnome/autostart
> Requires: gnome-session

Great! This adds
gnome-session: 1.8 MB
control-center: 7.1 MB
GConf2: 5,5 MB
gnome-keyring: 2,3 MB
gnome-vfs2: 3.1 MB

You added at least ~ 22,8 MB overhead just for directory ownership,
although I asked you to _not_ do this. I think users of alternative
desktops and the maintainers of their spins will not be amused. Last
week you told me, that a one advantage of the new polkit is that no
longer requires GConf2, but now it's dragged in again.

> %description
> polkit-gnome provides an authentication agent for PolicyKit
> that matches the look and feel of the GNOME desktop.
> 
> %prep
> %setup -q
> 
> %build
> %configure --enable-gtk-doc
> make

Still no parallel build, only one of several problems. I already pointed
that out during the so called "review" [1] and I find it sad to see you
don't give anything about feedback, good advice and not even the
packaging guidelines.

Regards,
Christoph

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502920

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GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10

2009-06-09 Thread Michal Nowak
Just noticed Canonical is pushing GRUB 2 as default in
Ubuntu 9.10 [1]. There are some hints on testing [2] and
from what I can see there are 40 bugs opened against
GRUB 2 in launchpad [3] v. zero in our Bugzilla.

Was wondering what's the plan for Fedora and GRUB 2 as I
can see there's quite old snapshot in current Rawhide -->
1.98-0.5.20080827svn.fc11.
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https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-June/000573.html
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing
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Re: Interested in scanning?

2009-06-09 Thread Julian Sikorski
Jesse Keating pisze:
> On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 08:56 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
>> Perhaps we could target some specific scanners on the first attempt?
>> We
>> might be able to get some hardware donated to the effort.
>>
>> ~spot, who has several scanners of varying age and quality in a box
>>
> 
> I have a relatively new Canon Scanner, that has no current hope of
> working on Linux.  Boy I'd love to see that changed.
> 
> 
I have an old Plustek OpticPro ST24, which is supposed to be supported
by the genesys backend in the future (the progress has been stalled for
a few years).

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 14:58 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:

> > 
> > # for /usr/share/gnome/autostart
> > Requires: gnome-session
> 
> Great! This adds
> gnome-session: 1.8 MB
> control-center: 7.1 MB
> GConf2: 5,5 MB
> gnome-keyring: 2,3 MB
> gnome-vfs2: 3.1 MB
> 
> You added at least ~ 22,8 MB overhead just for directory ownership,
> although I asked you to _not_ do this. I think users of alternative
> desktops and the maintainers of their spins will not be amused. Last
> week you told me, that a one advantage of the new polkit is that no
> longer requires GConf2, but now it's dragged in again.
> 

Your anger is misdirected. Complain to the rpm people for not handling
directories in a sane way. Or better still, send them a patch...

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Re: More mock problems

2009-06-09 Thread Rich Megginson

Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

On 06/08/2009 03:15 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:

  

Ah, so it is.  Thanks!  So now my only hurdle is the missing popt-devel
- any ideas?



That one looks like a genuine packaging bug.  We don't use rpm-devel on
the builders so no one saw it.

The header files for popt are in the main popt package in RHEL5/CentOS5
so that's what actually needs to be required in this instance, not
popt-devel.
  

Can I just do rpm --nodeps -Uvh rpm*.rpm?

-Toshio

  




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Re: BlueJ Advice Needed

2009-06-09 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Frank Murphy
(Frankly3d) wrote:
> Hoping to package BlueJ.
> http://www.bluej.org/about/what.html
>
>
> Q1:
> http://www.bluej.org/download/download.html
> Downloadable jar file, (and use contents of)
> or
> http://www.bluej.org/download/source-download.html
> Contains mix of Win\Mac\*nix stuff in the source zip

The former does not contain source files, so it is unacceptable.  You
will have to build from the latter.

> Q2:
> The third party bits that are required to run the BlueJ,
> have to be removed from the BlueJ Package as per
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-June/msg4.html
>
> If not already included in FP,
> they would have to be packaged separately,
> from their upstream sites?

Yes.  I see several jars that we already have, such as antlr, jsch,
junit, svnkit, and trilead-ssh.  What are we missing?

> Q3:
> Is there anyone in devel-list who has packaged *java apps* who
> would be willing to guide me as this would be my first package.

I have limited experience, so you'd be better off with someone else,
but I'm happy to offer what help I can give.

> Q4:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Java
> is most current re. java?

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Re: BlueJ Advice Needed

2009-06-09 Thread John5342
2009/6/9 Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) :
> Hoping to package BlueJ.
> http://www.bluej.org/about/what.html
>
>
> Q1:
> http://www.bluej.org/download/download.html
> Downloadable jar file, (and use contents of)
> or
> http://www.bluej.org/download/source-download.html
> Contains mix of Win\Mac\*nix stuff in the source zip

The package must be built from source so the second option in this case.

> Q2:
> The third party bits that are required to run the BlueJ,
> have to be removed from the BlueJ Package as per
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-June/msg4.html
>
> If not already included in FP,
> they would have to be packaged separately,
> from their upstream sites?

Dependencies should be packaged separately and from upstream. There
are exceptions to this but they are rare and should generally be
avoided if possible. A lot of the dependencies may well already be
packaged within Fedora

> Q3:
> Is there anyone in devel-list who has packaged *java apps* who
> would be willing to guide me as this would be my first package.

fedora-java-list is a good place to find java packagers although i am
sure there are some here too.

> Q4:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Java
> is most current re. java?

Those are the guidelines (for java packages) which should generally be
adhered to in addition to the standard packaging guidelines.

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 09.06.2009, 09:28 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 14:58 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > # for /usr/share/gnome/autostart
> > > Requires: gnome-session
> > 
> > Great! This adds
> > gnome-session: 1.8 MB
> > control-center: 7.1 MB
> > GConf2: 5,5 MB
> > gnome-keyring: 2,3 MB
> > gnome-vfs2: 3.1 MB
> > 
> > You added at least ~ 22,8 MB overhead just for directory ownership,
> > although I asked you to _not_ do this. I think users of alternative
> > desktops and the maintainers of their spins will not be amused. Last
> > week you told me, that a one advantage of the new polkit is that no
> > longer requires GConf2, but now it's dragged in again.
> > 
> 
> Your anger is misdirected. 

My anger is because people don't honor our packaging guidelines not even
if they are asked to do so. The guidelines are very clear in this case:
"Multiple packages have files in a common directory but none of them
requires others. [...] In this case, each package must own
the /usr/share/Foo/Animal/ directory."
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#File_and_Directory_Ownership

> Complain to the rpm people for not handling
> directories in a sane way. Or better still, send them a patch...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the problem with rpm is that an empty,
unowned dir is left behind if
  * it's no longer owned by any package 
  * packages got uninstalled in the wrong order
Both are reasons for duplicate ownership, not to mention the large
overhead that is pulled in.

Regards,
Christoph

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 16:06 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:

> My anger is because people don't honor our packaging guidelines not even
> if they are asked to do so. The guidelines are very clear in this case:
> "Multiple packages have files in a common directory but none of them
> requires others. [...] In this case, each package must own
> the /usr/share/Foo/Animal/ directory."
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#File_and_Directory_Ownership

Well, part of the problem is that the review guidelines strike a very
different tone:


MUST: A package must own all directories that it creates. If it does not
create a directory that it uses, then it should require a package which
does create that directory.

MUST: Packages must not own files or directories already owned by other
packages. The rule of thumb here is that the first package to be
installed should own the files or directories that other packages may
rely upon. This means, for example, that no package in Fedora should
ever share ownership with any of the files or directories owned by the
filesystem or man package. If you feel that you have a good reason to
own a file or directory that another package owns, then please present
that at package review time.

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Bill Crawford

Matthias Clasen wrote:
...

MUST: A package must own all directories that it creates. If it does not
create a directory that it uses, then it should require a package which
does create that directory.

MUST: Packages must not own files or directories already owned by other
packages. The rule of thumb here is that the first package to be
installed should own the files or directories that other packages may
rely upon. This means, for example, that no package in Fedora should
ever share ownership with any of the files or directories owned by the
filesystem or man package. If you feel that you have a good reason to
own a file or directory that another package owns, then please present
that at package review time.


So ... add the "autostart" directory to filesystem, or create a package 
called something like "gnome-filesystem", or move it to another package 
that gets installed earlier than gnome-session?


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Re: ctrlproxy-3.0.6

2009-06-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
>> Sure.  Would you like to own the package outright?  I've little time
>> to maintain it these days, and you seem both interested and capable.

> Ok, thanks.  I don't mind co-owning it with others.
> I will commit with the change suggested by Hans Ulrich Niedermann.

Currently the package shows up as orphaned in PackageDB. Would you
like to be the primary owner?

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Re: the end of life for flash player (HTML5)

2009-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
drago01 wrote:
> Or you can simply ship provide multiple video streams and switch them
> based on the useragent. (this is very likely to be the end result,
> even thought it sucks).

The user agent is the wrong way to check for support. Arora supports
different codecs based on the platform. (It uses QtWebKit which uses Phonon
which uses the platform's multimedia support. On Fedora, it will only
support Ogg and other patent/royalty-free codecs out of the box, on O$ X,
only MPEG4 and QuickTime stuff, on Window$, whatever M$ ships. Any other
codecs have to be installed by the user.)

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Re: More mock problems

2009-06-09 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 06/09/2009 06:51 AM, Rich Megginson wrote:
> Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

>> The header files for popt are in the main popt package in RHEL5/CentOS5
>> so that's what actually needs to be required in this instance, not
>> popt-devel.
>>   
> Can I just do rpm --nodeps -Uvh rpm*.rpm?

That seems like it should work.

-Toshio



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Re: the end of life for flash player (HTML5)

2009-06-09 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Martes 09 Junio 2009 17:05:04 Kevin Kofler escribió:
> drago01 wrote:
> > Or you can simply ship provide multiple video streams and switch them
> > based on the useragent. (this is very likely to be the end result,
> > even thought it sucks).
>
> The user agent is the wrong way to check for support. Arora supports
> different codecs based on the platform. (It uses QtWebKit which uses Phonon
> which uses the platform's multimedia support. On Fedora, it will only
> support Ogg and other patent/royalty-free codecs out of the box, on O$ X,
> only MPEG4 and QuickTime stuff, on Window$, whatever M$ ships. Any other
> codecs have to be installed by the user.)

For me - OGG fallback is essential... There can be a list of priorities like:
1. play H264 HD HQ video
2. play LQ video
4.
5.
6.
7. play OGG (the must)
and then browser can choose best suitable one or fallback to OGG. 

Jaroslav

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Re: File Triggers (was Re: Proposal (and yes, I'm willing to do stuff!): Must Use More Macros)

2009-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Colin Walters wrote:
> If such a thing were to be implemented it'd probably be good to use it
> to clean out the wishlist in general, like handling %clean and even
> %build automatically (e.g. if we see a configure script, just assume
> to call "%{configure}", see a Makefile, just assume to call "make",
> etc)

Uh, that will never work. Many configure scripts need options, even
makefiles can require options. The makefile could also be autogenerated
from an unknown build tool and accidentally shipped by upstream (in which
case you need to run that build tool first to generate a proper one).

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Re: File Triggers (was Re: Proposal (and yes, I'm willing to do stuff!): Must Use More Macros)

2009-06-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Colin Walters wrote:
>> If such a thing were to be implemented it'd probably be good to use it
>> to clean out the wishlist in general, like handling %clean and even
>> %build automatically (e.g. if we see a configure script, just assume
>> to call "%{configure}", see a Makefile, just assume to call "make",
>> etc)
>
> Uh, that will never work. Many configure scripts need options, even
> makefiles can require options.

There are always exceptions.  That doesn't mean one can't optimize for
the common case (and not just common, but what we want to push people
to do, which is consolidate build tools).

> The makefile could also be autogenerated from an unknown build tool

Makefiles generated by e.g. automake have easily detectable patterns.
Try "head Makefile".

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Crawford wrote:
> So ... add the "autostart" directory to filesystem, or create a package
> called something like "gnome-filesystem"

FWIW, that kind of things is why we have kde-filesystem.

That said, if it's just that one directory, having that directory simply
being co-owned by PolicyKit-gnome is the easiest solution (even if
technically less clean than a gnome-filesystem package).

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 06/09/2009 07:20 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 16:06 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> 
>> My anger is because people don't honor our packaging guidelines not even
>> if they are asked to do so. The guidelines are very clear in this case:
>> "Multiple packages have files in a common directory but none of them
>> requires others. [...] In this case, each package must own
>> the /usr/share/Foo/Animal/ directory."
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#File_and_Directory_Ownership
> 
> Well, part of the problem is that the review guidelines strike a very
> different tone:
> 
The review guidelines are meant to be summaries of the Guidelines to
make reviewing easier.  When conflicts arise, the Guidelines themselves
explain the corner cases, nuances, and other little things that would
bloat the cheat-sheet nature of the review guidelines.

How could we document that when in doubt, clicking through to the full
review guidelines should be done?

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
> How could we document that when in doubt, clicking through to the full
> review guidelines should be done?

After each item in the review guidelines, add a [more] link that
points to the relevant section in the packaging guidelines ?


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Re: File Triggers (was Re: Proposal (and yes, I'm willing to do stuff!): Must Use More Macros)

2009-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Colin Walters wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Kevin Kofler
> wrote:
>> The makefile could also be autogenerated from an unknown build tool
> 
> Makefiles generated by e.g. automake have easily detectable patterns.
> Try "head Makefile".

I wrote "UNKNOWN build tool". Of course you can detect the known ones
(automake, CMake etc.), but upstream may come up with some new build tool,
I've seen even custom makefile generators for single projects being used.

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "MB" == Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)  writes:

MB> After each item in the review guidelines, add a [more] link that
MB> points to the relevant section in the packaging guidelines ?

Do you realize that the document already has footnotes doing exactly
that?

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Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-09 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Kevin Kofler  writes:

> [...]  If the bug is important enough to block one of our trackers,
> we won't close it UPSTREAM, we'll even try to fix it on our own (and
> then upstream our fix) if upstream doesn't come up with a fix soon
> enough.

If you "CLOSE"/UPSTREAM it and force your user to report it elsewhere
instead, you won't know one way or another.

> But we can't reserve that treatment to every single KDE bug, there
> are too many!

Thank you for that moment of candour.  It illuminates what is
really motivating the disagreement about proper process.

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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
> MB> After each item in the review guidelines, add a [more] link that
> MB> points to the relevant section in the packaging guidelines ?
>
> Do you realize that the document already has footnotes doing exactly
> that?

Wow !

Looks like I was not entirely awake when I looked at them, I missed
the footnotes (and I wonder how, it's not like they are hidden :-/)

Sorry about that...

Note for self: stop drinking before you look at a page and say something dumb ^^


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x86_64 kernel + i586 F11 userspace + yum

2009-06-09 Thread Paul Jakma

Hi,

I run the above system, and everything works fine (except perhaps for 
SELinux[1]). I have created a /etc/rpm/platform containing 
'i586-redhat-linux'.


Well, everything works except for one thing: yum. Installing with 
'yum install name' no longer works, I must now instead explicitly 
specify the arch, e.g. 'yum install name.i58'.


Does anyone know a fix for this?

Also, if I explicitely add the x86-64 updates repo, and only include 
the 'kernel' package from it, should I be able to expect that yum 
update will Do The Right Thing, or will I need to manually 'yum 
install kernel.x86_64' whenever kernels are updated (or worse)?


Thanks.

1. Least, I presume this is SELinux related:

SELinux: initialized (dev binfmt_misc, type binfmt_misc), uses 
genfs_contexts
ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(80041272){t:12;sz:4} 
arg(ffb0eb68) on /home/xguest
ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(1260){t:12;sz:0} 
arg(ffb0eb70) on /home/xguest
ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(801c0204){t:02;sz:28} 
arg(ffb0eb4c) on /home/xguest


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Qt 4.5.1

2009-06-09 Thread Jeremy Sanders
Hi - Are we likely to see a qt 4.5.1 update at some point for F10? There's a 
bug fixed which makes my application very slow. Qt <4.5.1 draws long clipped 
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Thanks

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Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.

This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
Something up?


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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2009/6/9 Jon Ciesla :
> I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update
>
> I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
>
> This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and
> basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.
>  Something up?

There was a message a few days ago that the mirrormanager would be
broken for the F-11 repos for a few days, so perhaps it is that. You
could try editing your yum repo files to point to a specific mirror
rather than the mirror manager and see if that works.

HTH,
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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update
> 
> I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
> 
> This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
> basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
> Something up?

See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html , if
you have the same line that says "Eg. /", then I think that's
the solution.

Jonathan


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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla

Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
  

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.

This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
Something up?



See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html , if
you have the same line that says "Eg. /", then I think that's
the solution.

Jonathan
  

That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius

Jon Ciesla wrote:

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498720
This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
Something up?


Sound like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498720

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Re: Qt 4.5.1

2009-06-09 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 18:11:37 Jeremy Sanders wrote:
> Hi - Are we likely to see a qt 4.5.1 update at some point for F10? There's
> a bug fixed which makes my application very slow. Qt <4.5.1 draws long
> clipped lines extremely slowly.

Hi, 
it's waiting in Bodhi...

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-4844

Jaroslav

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>
> Jeremy
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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla

Ralf Corsepius wrote:

Jon Ciesla wrote:

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498720
This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever 
and basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no 
difference.  Something up?


Sound like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498720

Ralf

Looks like it.  Just not sure how to remedy this, as the F-11 version 
needs Python 2.6. . .rebuilding 1.1.2-12 for F-10 and upgrading did not 
fix it.


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Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:

> Kevin Kofler  writes:
> 
>> [...]  If the bug is important enough to block one of our trackers,
>> we won't close it UPSTREAM, we'll even try to fix it on our own (and
>> then upstream our fix) if upstream doesn't come up with a fix soon
>> enough.
> 
> If you "CLOSE"/UPSTREAM it and force your user to report it elsewhere
> instead, you won't know one way or another.

Please reread the first part of the sentence you quoted.

>> But we can't reserve that treatment to every single KDE bug, there
>> are too many!
> 
> Thank you for that moment of candour.  It illuminates what is
> really motivating the disagreement about proper process.

The fact is, every large project has thousands of reported bugs. GNOME has
several hundreds of thousands of bugs. KDE has more than 10, but fewer
than 20. There's no way a small team of distro packagers for that
project can address them all.

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> >   
> >> I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update
> >>
> >> I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
> >>
> >> This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
> >> basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
> >> Something up?
> >> 
> >
> > See
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html , if
> > you have the same line that says "Eg. /", then I think that's
> > the solution.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >   
> That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.

 Easiest thing to do is probably just get the yum from Fed-10
updates-testing, which is 3.2.23 and understands metalink and metalink
as mirrorlist.

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla

James Antill wrote:

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
  

Jonathan Dieter wrote:


On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
  
  

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.

This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
Something up?



See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html , if
you have the same line that says "Eg. /", then I think that's
the solution.

Jonathan
  
  

That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.



 Easiest thing to do is probably just get the yum from Fed-10
updates-testing, which is 3.2.23 and understands metalink and metalink
as mirrorlist.

  

Success!  I trust this will be pushed to F-10 stable with a quickness?

Thanks all,

-J

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Re: x86_64 kernel + i586 F11 userspace + yum

2009-06-09 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Paul Jakma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I run the above system, and everything works fine (except perhaps for
> SELinux[1]). I have created a /etc/rpm/platform containing
> 'i586-redhat-linux'.
>
> Well, everything works except for one thing: yum. Installing with 'yum
> install name' no longer works, I must now instead explicitly specify the
> arch, e.g. 'yum install name.i58'.
>
> Does anyone know a fix for this?
>
> Also, if I explicitely add the x86-64 updates repo, and only include the
> 'kernel' package from it, should I be able to expect that yum update will Do
> The Right Thing, or will I need to manually 'yum install kernel.x86_64'
> whenever kernels are updated (or worse)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> 1. Least, I presume this is SELinux related:
>
> SELinux: initialized (dev binfmt_misc, type binfmt_misc), uses
> genfs_contexts
> ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(80041272){t:12;sz:4}
> arg(ffb0eb68) on /home/xguest
> ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(1260){t:12;sz:0}
> arg(ffb0eb70) on /home/xguest
> ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(801c0204){t:02;sz:28}
> arg(ffb0eb4c) on /home/xguest
>

Any reason why you don't just use a x86_64 userspace ?

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Re: x86_64 kernel + i586 F11 userspace + yum

2009-06-09 Thread Warren Togami

On 06/09/2009 01:44 PM, drago01 wrote:

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Paul Jakma  wrote:

Hi,

I run the above system, and everything works fine (except perhaps for
SELinux[1]). I have created a /etc/rpm/platform containing
'i586-redhat-linux'.

Well, everything works except for one thing: yum. Installing with 'yum
install name' no longer works, I must now instead explicitly specify the
arch, e.g. 'yum install name.i58'.

Does anyone know a fix for this?


setarch i386 chroot /path/to/i586root

Do this and yum will behave properly.

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USB autosuspend in F12

2009-06-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
USB is an irritating protocol that requires USB controllers to remain 
active whenever a device is attached, even if that device is doing 
nothing. This consumes unnecessary power and can prevent the system 
going into deep idle states under some circumstances. The kernel 
supports USB autosuspend, which allows idle USB devices to be suspended 
and the upstream ports to power down. This is disabled by default 
because it breaks various pieces of hardware.

Through F12 I'm going to be slowly enabling autosuspend on various 
pieces of USB hardware. The aim is to ensure that it's only enabled on 
hardware that supports it. This is going to be a combination of kernel 
modifications and packaging changes, and while I'll be testing as many 
as possible before uploading anything there's a risk that some hardware 
will misbehave. I'll let people know when I think I'm about to upload 
anything risky.

The first part of this is an upload of libfprint which enables 
autosuspend on fingerprint readers. I'm expecting this to be pretty 
safe, but there's always the possibility that a couple of people will 
find problems. If your fingerprint reader suddenly stops working after 
this change, please file a bug and include the output of lsusb.

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla

Jon Ciesla wrote:

James Antill wrote:

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
 

Jonathan Dieter wrote:
   

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
   

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or 
file.


This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in 
releasever and basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist 
make no difference.  Something up?


See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html 
, if
you have the same line that says "Eg. /", then I think 
that's

the solution.

Jonathan


That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.



 Easiest thing to do is probably just get the yum from Fed-10
updates-testing, which is 3.2.23 and understands metalink and metalink
as mirrorlist.

  

Success!  I trust this will be pushed to F-10 stable with a quickness?

Thanks all,

-J

Of course, now we have dependency problems, that --skip-broken won't 
touch. . .


Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package 
nx-3.3.0-33.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package 
ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package 
yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch (installed)


Normally I'd remove the offending packages, but I sorta need yum. . .and 
openssl. . .


Any suggestions?

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Re: mono-2.4 and ppc64 status

2009-06-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, SmootherFrOgZ wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>> Mono-2.4 has been built for ppc64 in F11 and devel.  So people should be
>> able to start rebuilding packages to include ppc64 as well as the other
>> arches.  There's a few wrinkles to watch out for:
>>
>> 1) Packages with dependencies will have to be built in dependency order.
>>  For instance, a lot of packages depend on the gtk-sharp2 bindings and
>> those haven't been built yet.
>>
>> 2) Because of the imminent release of F11 we're in a freeze state.  This
>>  means getting dependencies into the Fedora11 buildroot will require
>> people to request tagging explicitly.  This also means that if you
>> rebuild your package for F11 with ppc64 support and later you have to
>> get this package tagged into the release, all of the packages it depends
>> on will need to be tagged in as well (otherwise your ppc64 build will
>> have broken deps).
>>
>> With these in mind, I'd recommend people start rebuilding their mono
>> packages on ppc64 in the devel branch.  Keep track of the dependency
>> chain you encounter.  Then perform your builds in the Fedora 11 branch
>> as updates after the release.  I'm not a mono-sig member, though, so if
>> you guys decide something else makes sense, just be sure to come up with
>> a plan so we don't release with a bunch of broken dependencies.
>>
>
> Sound like I forgot to update this thread.
> Well,
> All packages which should depend on gtk-sharp2  and gnome-sharp has
> been rebuilt (list below).
> If i missed some please, step up or feel free to build them if you have Acls.
>
> list
> 
> gnome-sharp-2_24_0-4_fc11
> gtksourceview2-sharp-1_0-5_svn89788_3_fc11
> gecko-sharp2-0_13-3_fc11
> webkit-sharp-0_2-2_fc11
> monosim-1_3_0_2-3_fc11
> avahi-0_6_25-2_fc11
> mono-addins-0_4-7_20091702svn127062_1_fc11
> gmime-2_4_3-5_fc11
> bless-0_6_0-3_fc11
> dbus-sharp-0_63-12_fc11
> themonospot-0_7_1_1-3_fc11
>
> ndesk-dbus-0_6_1a-5_fc11
> gnome-subtitles-0_8-8_fc11
> gnome-desktop-sharp-2_26_0-3_fc11
> evolution-sharp-0_20_0-2_fc11
> lat-1_2_3-7_fc11
> gsf-sharp-0_8_1-10_fc11
> mono-tools-2.4-9.fc11
> bareftp-0:0.2.2-2.fc10.i386
> gtk-sharp-1_0_10-23_fc11
> ndesk-dbus-glib-0_4_1-5_fc11
>
> beagle-0.3.9-8.fc11
> notify-sharp-0.4.0-0.7.20080912svn.fc11
> gnome-keyring-sharp-1.0.1-0.3.115768svn.fc11
> podsleuth-0.6.3-3.fc11
> tasque-0.1.8-3.fc11
> tomboy
> muine
> f-spot
>
> ipod-sharp-0.8.1-3.fc11
> mono-zeroconf-0.7.6-9.fc11
> gnome-do-0.8.1.3-6.fc11
> giver-0.1.8-5.fc11
> gbrainy-1.1-4.fc11
>
>

gnome-guitar is missing which I rebuilt a while ago (before your email).

I just saw that the new gnome-sharp and gtk-sharp2 is not in F-11
repos although they were in the buildroot override. This caused
dependency breakage. I also can't find them on bodhi. What is going
on?

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Dear VTE maintainer (Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-06-09)

2009-06-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 09.06.2009, 20:00 + schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies:
> 
> ==
> The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
> ==
> 
> package: lxterminal-0.1.4-2.fc11.i586 from fedora-11-i386
>   unresolved deps:
>  libvte.so.9

Dear VTE maintainer,

please consider announcing updates that will break 32 packages and
please use fedora-devel-announce. TIA!

Kind regards,
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Re: x86_64 kernel + i586 F11 userspace + yum

2009-06-09 Thread David P. Quigley
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 16:56 +0100, Paul Jakma wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I run the above system, and everything works fine (except perhaps for 
> SELinux[1]). I have created a /etc/rpm/platform containing 
> 'i586-redhat-linux'.
> 
> Well, everything works except for one thing: yum. Installing with 
> 'yum install name' no longer works, I must now instead explicitly 
> specify the arch, e.g. 'yum install name.i58'.
> 
> Does anyone know a fix for this?
> 
> Also, if I explicitely add the x86-64 updates repo, and only include 
> the 'kernel' package from it, should I be able to expect that yum 
> update will Do The Right Thing, or will I need to manually 'yum 
> install kernel.x86_64' whenever kernels are updated (or worse)?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 1. Least, I presume this is SELinux related:
> 
> SELinux: initialized (dev binfmt_misc, type binfmt_misc), uses 
> genfs_contexts
> ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(80041272){t:12;sz:4} 
> arg(ffb0eb68) on /home/xguest
> ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(1260){t:12;sz:0} 
> arg(ffb0eb70) on /home/xguest
> ioctl32(mount:1503): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(801c0204){t:02;sz:28} 
> arg(ffb0eb4c) on /home/xguest
> 
> regards,
> -- 
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> Fortune:
> "But officer, I was only trying to gain enough speed so I could coast
> to the nearest gas station."
> 

I don't think this is a problem with SELinux just an unfortunate case of
being close to the error. What I think is happening is that the utility
that is trying to call ioctl is passing the wrong value into cmd. In
this case it is passing a command that the particular filesystem/device
doesn't understand.

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Re: More mock problems

2009-06-09 Thread Rich Megginson

Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

On 06/09/2009 06:51 AM, Rich Megginson wrote:
  

Toshio Kuratomi wrote:



  

The header files for popt are in the main popt package in RHEL5/CentOS5
so that's what actually needs to be required in this instance, not
popt-devel.
  
  

Can I just do rpm --nodeps -Uvh rpm*.rpm?



That seems like it should work.
  

Success!
rpm --nosignature --force --nodeps -Uvh /path/to/builder-rpms/rpm*.rpm

After this, I was able to successfully do
mock -r fedora-rawhide-i386 init

Thanks to all who helped!

-Toshio

  




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Re: rpms/polkit-gnome/devel polkit-gnome.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-06-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 09 juin 2009 à 10:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 16:06 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> 
> > My anger is because people don't honor our packaging guidelines not even
> > if they are asked to do so. The guidelines are very clear in this case:
> > "Multiple packages have files in a common directory but none of them
> > requires others. [...] In this case, each package must own
> > the /usr/share/Foo/Animal/ directory."
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#File_and_Directory_Ownership
> 
> Well, part of the problem is that the review guidelines strike a very
> different tone:

Just create a gnome-filesystem package that owns your common directories
and be done with it. rpm requires something to own dirs but you're the
packagers decide what this something is

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Re: mono-2.4 and ppc64 status

2009-06-09 Thread SmootherFrOgZ
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, SmootherFrOgZ wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>>> Mono-2.4 has been built for ppc64 in F11 and devel.  So people should be
>>> able to start rebuilding packages to include ppc64 as well as the other
>>> arches.  There's a few wrinkles to watch out for:
>>>
>>> 1) Packages with dependencies will have to be built in dependency order.
>>>  For instance, a lot of packages depend on the gtk-sharp2 bindings and
>>> those haven't been built yet.
>>>
>>> 2) Because of the imminent release of F11 we're in a freeze state.  This
>>>  means getting dependencies into the Fedora11 buildroot will require
>>> people to request tagging explicitly.  This also means that if you
>>> rebuild your package for F11 with ppc64 support and later you have to
>>> get this package tagged into the release, all of the packages it depends
>>> on will need to be tagged in as well (otherwise your ppc64 build will
>>> have broken deps).
>>>
>>> With these in mind, I'd recommend people start rebuilding their mono
>>> packages on ppc64 in the devel branch.  Keep track of the dependency
>>> chain you encounter.  Then perform your builds in the Fedora 11 branch
>>> as updates after the release.  I'm not a mono-sig member, though, so if
>>> you guys decide something else makes sense, just be sure to come up with
>>> a plan so we don't release with a bunch of broken dependencies.
>>>
>>
>> Sound like I forgot to update this thread.
>> Well,
>> All packages which should depend on gtk-sharp2  and gnome-sharp has
>> been rebuilt (list below).
>> If i missed some please, step up or feel free to build them if you have Acls.
>>
>> list
>> 
>> gnome-sharp-2_24_0-4_fc11
>> gtksourceview2-sharp-1_0-5_svn89788_3_fc11
>> gecko-sharp2-0_13-3_fc11
>> webkit-sharp-0_2-2_fc11
>> monosim-1_3_0_2-3_fc11
>> avahi-0_6_25-2_fc11
>> mono-addins-0_4-7_20091702svn127062_1_fc11
>> gmime-2_4_3-5_fc11
>> bless-0_6_0-3_fc11
>> dbus-sharp-0_63-12_fc11
>> themonospot-0_7_1_1-3_fc11
>>
>> ndesk-dbus-0_6_1a-5_fc11
>> gnome-subtitles-0_8-8_fc11
>> gnome-desktop-sharp-2_26_0-3_fc11
>> evolution-sharp-0_20_0-2_fc11
>> lat-1_2_3-7_fc11
>> gsf-sharp-0_8_1-10_fc11
>> mono-tools-2.4-9.fc11
>> bareftp-0:0.2.2-2.fc10.i386
>> gtk-sharp-1_0_10-23_fc11
>> ndesk-dbus-glib-0_4_1-5_fc11
>>
>> beagle-0.3.9-8.fc11
>> notify-sharp-0.4.0-0.7.20080912svn.fc11
>> gnome-keyring-sharp-1.0.1-0.3.115768svn.fc11
>> podsleuth-0.6.3-3.fc11
>> tasque-0.1.8-3.fc11
>> tomboy
>> muine
>> f-spot
>>
>> ipod-sharp-0.8.1-3.fc11
>> mono-zeroconf-0.7.6-9.fc11
>> gnome-do-0.8.1.3-6.fc11
>> giver-0.1.8-5.fc11
>> gbrainy-1.1-4.fc11
>>
>>
>
> gnome-guitar is missing which I rebuilt a while ago (before your email).
>
> I just saw that the new gnome-sharp and gtk-sharp2 is not in F-11
> repos although they were in the buildroot override. This caused
> dependency breakage. I also can't find them on bodhi. What is going
> on?
>

I assume that no one have any mono packages to rebuilt.
then if so, i gonna request a push above packages.

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Re: USB autosuspend in F12

2009-06-09 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Through F12 I'm going to be slowly enabling autosuspend on various
> pieces of USB hardware. The aim is to ensure that it's only enabled on
> hardware that supports it.

As you move forward with this across the devicescape, how are you
going to selectively enable devices to apply autosuspend to? Is this
done by a whitelisting of specific device ids? Or is this going to be
done based on a detected set of capabilities and then pruning that
back with a blacklist?

I've got some exotic homebrew usb equipment that I'm going to have to
troubleshoot on my own, so it would be useful to know how you are
going to slice the device space so I can figure out which devices
should and should not be affected..eventually.

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 14:55 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> Jon Ciesla wrote:
> > James Antill wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> >>>
>  On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> 
> > I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update
> >
> > I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or 
> > file.
> >
> > This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in 
> > releasever and basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist 
> > make no difference.  Something up?
> > 
>  See
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html 
>  , if
>  you have the same line that says "Eg. /", then I think 
>  that's
>  the solution.
> 
>  Jonathan
>  
> >>> That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.
> >>> 
> >>
> >>  Easiest thing to do is probably just get the yum from Fed-10
> >> updates-testing, which is 3.2.23 and understands metalink and metalink
> >> as mirrorlist.
> >>
> >>   
> > Success!  I trust this will be pushed to F-10 stable with a quickness?
> >
> > Thanks all,
> >
> > -J
> >
> Of course, now we have dependency problems, that --skip-broken won't 
> touch. . .
> 
> Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package 
> nx-3.3.0-33.fc10.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package 
> ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
> Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package 
> yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch (installed)
> 
> Normally I'd remove the offending packages, but I sorta need yum. . .and 
> openssl. . .
> 
> Any suggestions?

 The yum in Fed-11 updates-testing is yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm,
which is newer than the one in Fed-10 updates-testing. Given you are
trying to update via. yum, just enabling updates-testing should be the
most fun :). Or you can always just download the above yum, and use yum
shell to update everything else and yum via. the local file.

 Or there is always preupgrade, which is the suppor^W less fun way to do
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Re: USB autosuspend in F12

2009-06-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 01:18:31PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:

> As you move forward with this across the devicescape, how are you
> going to selectively enable devices to apply autosuspend to? Is this
> done by a whitelisting of specific device ids? Or is this going to be
> done based on a detected set of capabilities and then pruning that
> back with a blacklist?

A mixture. Some devices will be explicitly whitelisted, while in other 
cases we'll be enabling all devices in a class (generally as determined 
by the kernel driver they use) and possibly blacklisting some of them.

> I've got some exotic homebrew usb equipment that I'm going to have to
> troubleshoot on my own, so it would be useful to know how you are
> going to slice the device space so I can figure out which devices
> should and should not be affected..eventually.

It's unlikely that any of them will be covered by this. For now I'll be 
concentrating on fairly common hardware in order to get the maximum 
benefit at minimum effort. We'll worry about more obscure devices at 
some later point.

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Re: Dear VTE maintainer (Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-06-09)

2009-06-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 22:39 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 09.06.2009, 20:00 + schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> > The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies:
> > 
> > ==
> > The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
> > ==
> > 
> > package: lxterminal-0.1.4-2.fc11.i586 from fedora-11-i386
> >   unresolved deps:
> >  libvte.so.9
> 
> Dear VTE maintainer,
> 
> please consider announcing updates that will break 32 packages and
> please use fedora-devel-announce. TIA!
> 

Dear Christoph,

please calm down. 
The update has not been pushed. The soname bump was unintended and
Behdad is working on correcting that, which is why I have not asked for
rebuilds. 

Thanks for listening,

Matthias


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Re: mono-2.4 and ppc64 status

2009-06-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:11 PM, SmootherFrOgZ wrote:
>
> I assume that no one have any mono packages to rebuilt.
> then if so, i gonna request a push above packages.
>

Please do. This was F11-Target and I didn't even think this would not
be submitted ASAP and I had pushed gnome-guitar to updates. Now it is
sitting there alone.

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla



> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 14:55 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>> Jon Ciesla wrote:
>> > James Antill wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla
wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Jonathan Dieter
wrote:
>> >>>
>>  On Tue,
2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>>

>> > I installed F-11
fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum
>> update
>> >
>> > I got
YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or
>>
> file.
>> >
>> > This is a fully updated F-10 system. 
Manually filling in
>> > releasever and
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist
>>
> make no difference.  Something up?
>>
>
>>  See
>>

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html
>>  , if
>>  you have
the same line that says "Eg. /", then I
think
>>  that's
>> 
the solution.
>> 
>>
 Jonathan
>> 
>>
>>> That's my error, but that doesn't help. 
yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.
>> >>>
>>
>>
>> >>  Easiest thing to do is probably just get
the yum from Fed-10
>> >> updates-testing, which is
3.2.23 and understands metalink and
>> metalink
>>
>> as mirrorlist.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Success!  I trust this will be pushed to F-10 stable with
a quickness?
>> >
>> > Thanks all,
>> >
>> > -J
>> >
>> Of
course, now we have dependency problems, that --skip-broken won't
>> touch. . .
>>
>> Error: Missing
Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package
>>
nx-3.3.0-33.fc10.i386 (installed)
>> Error: Missing Dependency:
libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package
>> ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386
(installed)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is
needed by package
>> yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch (installed)
>>
>> Normally I'd remove the offending packages, but I
sorta need yum. . .and
>> openssl. . .
>>
>> Any suggestions?
> 
>  The yum in Fed-11
updates-testing is yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm,
> which is newer
than the one in Fed-10 updates-testing. Given you are
> trying to
update via. yum, just enabling updates-testing should be the
>
most fun :). Or you can always just download the above yum, and use yum
> shell to update everything else and yum via. the local file.

And how do I install an F-11 yum RPM in F-10, which lacks python
2.6?  I get the same thing with or without updates-testing for
F-11.

Preupgrade isn't a very good option for some of my hosts,
due to lack of X and restrictions on downtime.  Yum Should Work if
all the deps and EVRs are right.  :)

>  Or there is
always preupgrade, which is the suppor^W less fun way to do
> it
:).
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rawhide report: 20090608 changes

2009-06-09 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jun  8 06:15:04 UTC 2009

New package erlang-erlsyslog
Syslog facility for Erlang
New package findbugs-contrib
Extra findbugs detectors
New package globus-gass-copy
Globus Toolkit - Globus Gass Copy
New package globus-rls-server
Globus Toolkit - Replica Location Service Server
New package libint
A library that evaluates integrals over Gaussian basis functions
New package libiodbc
iODBC Driver Manager
New package nekobee-dssi
Acid sounds synthesizer
New package perl-DBIx-Class-DynamicDefault
Automatically set and update fields
New package perl-Gnome2-Wnck
Perl interface to the Window Navigator Construction Kit
New package php-markdown
Markdown implementation in PHP
New package python-EnthoughtBase
Core packages for the Enthought Tool Suite
New package python-line_profiler
A Python line-by-line profiler
New package rygel
A UPnP v2 Media Server
New package toot2
Java models and frameworks for Audio/MIDI
New package wordnet
A lexical database for the english language
New package xsynth-dssi
Classic-analog style software synthesizer
Updated Packages:

PyQt-3.18-1.fc12

* Fri Jun 05 2009 Rex Dieter  - 3.18-1
- PyQt-3.18


PyQt4-4.5-1.fc12

* Fri Jun 05 2009 Rex Dieter  - 4.5-1
- PyQt-4.5


apr-1.3.5-4.fc12

* Mon Jun 08 2009 Bojan Smojver  - 1.3.5-4
- bump up to 1.3.5


apr-util-1.3.7-3.fc12
-
* Mon Jun 08 2009 Bojan Smojver  - 1.3.7-1
- bump up to 1.3.7

* Mon Jun 08 2009 Bojan Smojver  - 1.3.7-2
- revert tests

* Mon Jun 08 2009 Bojan Smojver  - 1.3.7-3
- make export of LD_LIBRARY_PATH simpler


audacious-1.5.1-9.fc12
--
* Fri Jun 05 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-9
- update post/postun/posttrans scriptlets to match guidelines
- drop BR GConf2-devel
- drop obsolete configure options
- drop ancient Obsoletes/Provides for BMP
- minor spec updates

* Thu Jun 04 2009 Michael Schwendt 
- Patch /usr/bin/audacious to find fedora-audacious.desktop file.


audacious-plugin-fc-0.3-3
-
* Fri Jun 05 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 0.3-3
- Rebuild for libmowgli SONAME dependency.
- Add audacious-plugins-fc Provides.


audacious-plugins-1.5.1-7.fc12
--
* Fri Jun 05 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-7
- Remove unapplied patches and verify that they have been merged.
- Multiple different licenses are used for the individual plugins.
- Move amidi-plug directory to amidi subpackage.

* Thu Jun 04 2009 Michael Schwendt  - 1.5.1-6
- Apply ALSA driver patches by Hans de Goede (#499942).
- Minor spec updates.
- Update scriptlets in accordance with guidelines.
- Build with libsndfile plugin for advanced formats in WAV and
  patch it for pause and seek (also fixes #501007).


avogadro-0.9.6-1.fc12
-
* Sat Jun 06 2009 Sebastian Dziallas  0.9.6-1
- new upstream release to fix issue with qt 4.5.0 and earlier


control-center-2.26.0-6.fc12

* Fri Jun 05 2009 Bastien Nocera  2.26.0-6
- Add arora to the list of browsers (#497610)


gimp-2.6.6-4.fc12
-
* Fri Jun 05 2009 Nils Philippsen  - 2:2.6.6-4
- don't build against aalib on RHEL
- use backported patch to correctly check gegl/babl versions


git-1.6.3.2-1.fc12
--
* Fri Jun 05 2009 Todd Zullinger  - 1.6.3.2-1
- git-1.6.3.2
- Require emacs >= 22.2 for emacs support (bug 495312)
- Add a .desktop file for git-gui (bug 498801)
- Set ASCIIDOC8 and ASCIIDOC_NO_ROFF to correct documentation issues,
  the sed hack to fix bug 485161 should no longer be needed
- Escape newline in git-daemon xinetd description (bug 502393)
- Add xinetd to git-daemon Requires (bug 504105)
- Organize BuildRequires/Requires, drop redundant expat Requires
- Only build noarch subpackages on Fedora >= 10
- Only build emacs and arch subpackages on Fedora
- Handle curl/libcurl naming for EPEL and Fedora


gmixer-1.3-6.fc12
-
* Sun Jun 07 2009 Leigh Scott- 1.3-5
- re-add doc 
- add icon
- add setup-py.patch to remove cleanup
- add Br pkgconfig
- use find_lang to install language files

* Sun Jun 07 2009 Leigh Scott- 1.3-6
- bump version as I couldn't remove CVS tag


hunspell-en-0.20090216-3.fc12
-
* Sat Jun 06 2009 Caolan McNamara  - 0.20090216-3
- Change two suspicious words with two initial capitals in en_GB
  from ADte TEirtza to ADTe Teirtza


ipa-gothic-fonts-003.01-3.fc12
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* Fri Jun 05 2009 Akira TAGOH  - 003.01-3
- Disable hinting.


ipa-mincho-fonts-003.01-3.fc12
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anaconda loses six versions from fc11 to fc12 ?

2009-06-09 Thread John Reiser
  rawhide report: 20090605 changes
  > Compose started at Fri Jun  5 06:15:04 UTC 2009
  > anaconda-11.5.0.53-1.fc12

  rawhide report: 20090603 changes
  > Compose started at Wed Jun  3 06:15:03 UTC 2009
  > anaconda-11.5.0.59-1.fc11

It looks like the versions from .54 through .59 were dropped
in the changeover from fc11 to fc12.  Version .54 was in:

  rawhide report: 20090520 changes
  > Compose started at Wed May 20 06:15:04 UTC 2009
  > anaconda-11.5.0.54-1.fc11

so I hope that the work of two weeks can be recovered soon.
(The changes were not in Monday's [20090608] rawhide report
for fc12, either.)

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Re: anaconda loses six versions from fc11 to fc12 ?

2009-06-09 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tuesday, June 09 2009, John Reiser said:
> It looks like the versions from .54 through .59 were dropped
> in the changeover from fc11 to fc12.  Version .54 was in:
[snip]
> so I hope that the work of two weeks can be recovered soon.
> (The changes were not in Monday's [20090608] rawhide report
> for fc12, either.)

It's just because after things branched, builds were done from F-11/
instead of devel/.  Regular builds from git master of anaconda to devel/
(and thus f12 rawhide) will probably pick up shortly.  

Jeremy

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 20:22 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> > Given you are
> > trying to update via. yum, just enabling updates-testing should be the
> > most fun :). Or you can always just download the above yum, and use yum
> > shell to update everything else and yum via. the local file.
> 
> And how do I install an F-11 yum RPM in F-10, which lacks python 2.6?
> I get the same thing with or without updates-testing for F-11.

 As I said:

1. yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

2. yumdownloader --repoid=updates-testing yum
   cat <
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Bittorrent speeds...

2009-06-09 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet

Hello,
  Is it just me or is the torrent a bit slow. I typically download TV 
shows at 1.5MB/s (MB, not Mb). 150-300MB in 4-5 minutes. This torrent is 
sitting around 20-40KB/s... Anything I can do about that? Is the tracker 
swamped or ???


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Re: Bittorrent speeds...

2009-06-09 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 08:45:27 pm Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> Hello,
>Is it just me or is the torrent a bit slow. I typically download TV
> shows at 1.5MB/s (MB, not Mb). 150-300MB in 4-5 minutes. This torrent is
> sitting around 20-40KB/s... Anything I can do about that? Is the tracker
> swamped or ???
>
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I was getting speeds in excess of a few megabytes a second on the Fedora 11 
torrents, I'm not sure why you're having trouble.

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Re: Bittorrent speeds...

2009-06-09 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet

Conrad Meyer wrote:
I was getting speeds in excess of a few megabytes a second on the Fedora 11 
torrents, I'm not sure why you're having trouble.


Yeah, I'm slightly confused, I downloaded a 5.5GB TV Series alongside it 
at 1.5MB. It never increased after that completed...


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Re: Bittorrent speeds...

2009-06-09 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:45:27PM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> Hello,
>   Is it just me or is the torrent a bit slow. I typically download TV 
> shows at 1.5MB/s (MB, not Mb). 150-300MB in 4-5 minutes. This torrent is 
> sitting around 20-40KB/s... Anything I can do about that? Is the tracker 
> swamped or ???

Which torrents in particular?  I just got the x86_64 LiveCD at about
1.3MB/sec; ~475 seeders of that.

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Keyboard US Internacional

2009-06-09 Thread Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira

Hello Guys!
We have a problem with the keyboard Us Internacional.

I'm using Fedora 11 in pt_BR

Looking the file /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us-acentos.map.gz, I found 
this:


compose '\'' 'C' to 'Ç'
compose '\'' 'c' to 'ç'

This is correct, but, when I press  ' + c or ' + C =  ć or Ć.

In portuguese we don't have acent in the c, the correct is ç  (C + cedilla)

So, how can We fix this problem ?

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Re: Keyboard US Internacional

2009-06-09 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
look what package own the file and report a bug

rpm -qf /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us-acentos.map.gz



On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Rodrigo Padula de
Oliveira wrote:
> Hello Guys!
> We have a problem with the keyboard Us Internacional.
>
> I'm using Fedora 11 in pt_BR
>
> Looking the file /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us-acentos.map.gz, I found
> this:
>
> compose '\'' 'C' to 'Ç'
> compose '\'' 'c' to 'ç'
>
> This is correct, but, when I press  ' + c or ' + C =  ć or Ć.
>
> In portuguese we don't have acent in the c, the correct is ç  (C + cedilla)
>
> So, how can We fix this problem ?
>
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Re: Bittorrent speeds...

2009-06-09 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet

Matt Domsch wrote:

On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:45:27PM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:

Hello,
  Is it just me or is the torrent a bit slow. I typically download TV 
shows at 1.5MB/s (MB, not Mb). 150-300MB in 4-5 minutes. This torrent is 
sitting around 20-40KB/s... Anything I can do about that? Is the tracker 
swamped or ???


Which torrents in particular?  I just got the x86_64 LiveCD at about
1.3MB/sec; ~475 seeders of that.



X86_64 DVD Install. I dropped the max connections and have slowly bumped 
it up from there. Its at 350 now, so I'm now getting 500K/s. Not really 
sure what was going on, when I looked at the peer/seeder list, there 
were lots and lots of connections, but 0K up/down. I figured if I 
dropped the number of connections maybe deluge would perhaps keep the 
ones sending stuff a bit better... Not really sure what's going on but 
its much better than the 8-20K I was getting.


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Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-06-09 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 21:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Just a heads-up:
> 
> We hope to land a new PolicyKit version (which will turn into 1.0,
> eventually) in F12 soon. 

PolicyKit 0.92 has now landed in rawhide; the package name has changed
to polkit and polkit-gnome, to allow it to coexist with PolicyKit 0.9
until the transition is completed. David has put a lot of effort into
improving the api docs which are included in polkit-devel, which should
help in getting the remaining porting done.


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heads up: corosynclib soname change and updates plan

2009-06-09 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
Hi all,

corosync/openais will soon be released as 1.0 with stable API/ABI.

At this point in time, the external library API/ABI should be stable
(unless major/critical issues will be found). The internal API/ABI (for
plugin) could still change.

This is my current update plan:

- update rawhide:
  * corosync/openais need to go in first.
  * cluster need to be updated too at the same time
(I maintain it, so that won't be a problem).
  * lvm2/qpidc will require at least a rebuild. AFAICT
they only use the external shared libraries to access corosync
services so they won't be affected by internal plugin API changes.
  * asterisk should be unaffected by those changes since it uses only
openais shared libraries and the API/ABI hasn't changed
since F11 (maintainer CC'ed anyway.. better safe than sorry ;)).

Once we hit the 1.0 release, and propagate it properly into rawhide, my
plans are to update F11 and F10 too. The amount of critical bug fixes in
current corosync/openais versions is simply too high to be ignored for
updates (even if it will be a bit of a painful process given the number
of packages involved).

Unless there are strong objections, I'll start building
corosync/openais/cluster tomorrow. New packages and updated spec files
will be available in CVS later today (untagged).

Thanks
Fabio


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Re: Dear VTE maintainer (Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-06-09)

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:41:46 -0400, Matthias wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 22:39 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, den 09.06.2009, 20:00 + schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> > > The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies:
> > > 
> > > ==
> > > The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
> > > ==
> > > 
> > > package: lxterminal-0.1.4-2.fc11.i586 from fedora-11-i386
> > >   unresolved deps:
> > >  libvte.so.9
> > 
> > Dear VTE maintainer,
> > 
> > please consider announcing updates that will break 32 packages and
> > please use fedora-devel-announce. TIA!
> > 
> 
> Dear Christoph,
> 
> please calm down. 
> The update has not been pushed. The soname bump was unintended and
> Behdad is working on correcting that, which is why I have not asked for
> rebuilds. 
> 
> Thanks for listening,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 

Also note that yesterday I've ported the "assignBlame/libmunge/conspirators"
feature from mash's spam-o-matic to Extras repoclosure. It implements some
basic checks to determine which library package might have broken the 
dependencies
and then sends a full copy of the broken deps report to its package owners.
The vte owners have received a rather long report.

And let's not forget the feedback inside bodhi.

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