Re: readline update?

2009-07-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
 I thought, we banned all non-utf-8 aware packages?

Unfortunately, a lot of that crap went in anyway because some reviewers just
don't care. I agree with you that it's a showstopper. Applications which
don't support UTF-8 WILL NOT WORK properly in Fedora's default locales. Not
even in English. But it's especially apparent in languages actually using
non-ASCII characters (i.e. most non-English languages).

We really need to fix editline to properly support UTF-8, then these
readline licensing issues might also just go away. (Sadly, this
inconsiderate upgrade to GPLv3 looks to me like an own goal by the FSF.
They always present readline like a library which is intentionally GPL to
provide an advantage to Free Software and proudly show how some programs
chose the GPL because of readline. Now this license change is actually
going to help editline and thus a BSD-licensed implementation.)

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Re: Dracut now has a wiki page in the Fedora wiki...

2009-07-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 23:19 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 15:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:43:34 +0100,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
   
   but it's actually a lot less trouble to just do:
   
   tar xf dracut-$version.tar.bz2
   
   which auto-detects the archive type. It's much easier to just let it be
   handled by autodetection, and only bother specifying the archive type
   manually if the autodetection trips up.
  
  How long has that feature been there?
 
 I'm as amused as you are that I didn't know about that either (my guess
 is it's been there a while and we're just all stuck in our ways). At
 least we're not stuck in the 1970s and willing to move with the times -
 a lot of people still like to use pipes of the individual utilities ;)

I only figured it out last year, actually. By accident I think :)
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Re: Building packages for EPEL

2009-07-04 Thread Gregory Hosler
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 Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 EPEL is now using koji to build instead of plague.  please make sure that 
 you
 update th common directory in your checkout to pick up the needed changes to
 submit builds.
 I was able to do builds for EL-4/EL-5 using koji. thanks a lot!

 Bodhi support will come early next week to issue updates.
 Please let us know as and when make update will be available. Until then, 
 what
 is the alternative? http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates ?

 
 make update goes to bodhi as well as
 http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates; which is bodhi UI.
 
 epel-releng will be taking care of the updates for now.

So if I understand things ... once I have I clean make build I can
either use bodhi, or drop an email to epel-rel...@lists.fedoraproject.org ?
(I'm more inclined to use the web interface, but I just want to clarify
the alternatives :-)

Thanks a lot, and all the best,

- -Greg

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.4

2009-07-04 Thread Harald Hoyer

Information:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut

Download:
F-11: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=112941
Rawhide: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=112940

Bugs can be filed in bugzilla now:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedoracomponent=dracut

root on LVM, MD, cryptoluks, NFS, iSCSI and NBD is supported.

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RFE: clean up keyboard layout config

2009-07-04 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
Hello everybody,

I was tracing a problem that was no reproducible
getting Error activating XKB configuration

as I'm not the only one who got this error, just google for it and see

some times is could be a result of broken language files

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487583

but it's very difficult to trace the problem

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508628

what do we want ?
1. we want to a way to select a system wide layout
2. we want to allow users to override that (per-user layout)

the problem ?

issues solving #1

rhpl - used by fedora-setup-keyboard at compile time [is the any other usage ?]
  this mean that any update to rhpl needs a rebuild for
fedora-setup-keyboard so does koji knows this ?

  after #487583, rhpl was updated rhpl to put ara and make the variant
 qwerty passed to ara not us
  this could result that one can't add new users in first login
because the default layout is Arabic

fedora-setup-keyboard - beside building issue there is another issue
  it reads /etc/sysconfig/keyboard  which could contain something like
KEYTABLE=ar-qwerty [from rhpl]
  or detailed parameters like LAYOUT, OPTIONS and VARIANT
  the question is what happened if both are specified ?

  the second question which is related to #487583
  while setxkbmap manual says it does not support per-layout variants
  does this apply to fedora-setup-keyboard (and is this inherited from
evdev hal interface)
  if not then it rhpl should be updated to be us,ara with variants=,querty
  and if possible change it to be
layout1\tvariant1,layout2\tvariant2 or something like that

xkeyboard-config - the arabic part in it, is it difficult to make it
defaults to qwerty so that KEYTABLE=ar-qwerty needs no variants at
all, and ar-azerty will be just coupled with fr,ara instead.

how to test this ?
gnome and gdm should not be used to test this
I suggest xfce to test this stage [I used autologin in gdm to stop it
from playing withouts]
because both gdm and gnome interferes this process

-
issues solving #2

gdm - to what options ?
unable to login in many cases, for example after #487583 they updated
rhpl to put ara first but gdm did not allow me to switch using shifts
or shift caps or alt+shift and using a special debug stubs I injected
into libgnomekbd, it seems that gdm does not set options like
grp:alt_shift_toggle, it just set layouts,

gnome - in general we have the following components

gnome-settings-daemon - which activates the layout based on gconf
/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
  this is the one that shows that dialog in the screenshot

control-center - contains gnome-keyboard-properties

libgnomekbd - the library that talks to libxklavier and converts to gconf

libxklavier - the back end library used by gnome related apps

it seems that there is a bug libgnomekbd, because it though that the
comma in ara,us should be escaped
as it wrote ara\,us to gconf when I set multiple variants in
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard or rhpl

so even though libxklavier and thus libgnomekbd supports multiple
variants it failed to import it from the current X

--
misc issues

xorg-x11-utils - contains xprop which is used like this xprop -root | grep XKB
xorg-x11-xkb-utils - contains setxkbmap - the man page says that it takes only
one single variant not a list of variants

does setxkbmap supports multiple variants but it's not documented or
it's not supported
if it's the first then its man page should be updated with examples

it it does not support it
how difficult is it to make it support it

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Re: Building packages for EPEL

2009-07-04 Thread Xavier Lamien
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Gregory Hosler ghos...@redhat.com wrote:

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  On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Gregory Hoslerghos...@redhat.com
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  Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  EPEL is now using koji to build instead of plague.  please make sure
 that you
  update th common directory in your checkout to pick up the needed
 changes to
  submit builds.
  I was able to do builds for EL-4/EL-5 using koji. thanks a lot!
 
  Bodhi support will come early next week to issue updates.
  Please let us know as and when make update will be available. Until
 then, what
  is the alternative? http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates ?
 
 
  make update goes to bodhi as well as
  http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates; which is bodhi UI.
 
  epel-releng will be taking care of the updates for now.

 So if I understand things ... once I have I clean make build I can
 either use bodhi, or drop an email to epel-rel...@lists.fedoraproject.org?


Not really.
However, epel support is now available.


 (I'm more inclined to use the web interface, but I just want to clarify
 the alternatives :-)




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Time for 2.6.30 in F-11?

2009-07-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
Now that .1 is out, is there anything in particular stopping F-11 from
having this kernel?

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Re: Time for 2.6.30 in F-11?

2009-07-04 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi,

Users with Intel's integrated chips need the updated DRM in that
kernel. I think that an update is highly recommended.

-Ilyes

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 Now that .1 is out, is there anything in particular stopping F-11 from
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Re: Time for 2.6.30 in F-11?

2009-07-04 Thread King InuYasha
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Users with Intel's integrated chips need the updated DRM in that
 kernel. I think that an update is highly recommended.

 -Ilyes

 On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Bojan Smojverbo...@rexursive.com wrote:
  Now that .1 is out, is there anything in particular stopping F-11 from
  having this kernel?
 
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I concur I have five laptops and a few desktops with Intel graphics, and
it would definitely be great if the update would be pushed through!
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rawhide report: 20090704 changes

2009-07-04 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Jul  4 06:15:03 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

bluez-4.43-2.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com 4.43-1
- Update to 4.43

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com 4.43-2
- Up the required udev requires so bluetoothd gets started
  on boot when an adapter is present


cbios-0.23-1.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com 0.23-1
- New upstream release 0.23


doxygen-1.5.9-1.fc12

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Than Ngo t...@redhat.com - 1.5.9-1
- 1.5.9


eina-0.8.0-2.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Allisson Azevedo allis...@gmail.com 0.8.0-1
- Update to 0.8.0.
- Added curl-devel BR.
- Removed patches.

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Allisson Azevedo allis...@gmail.com 0.8.0-2
- Fix changelog date.


fish-1.23.1-3.fc12
--
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Lorenzo Villani lvill...@binaryhelix.net - 1.23.1-1
- 1.23.1
- Fix bz #472613

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Lorenzo Villani lvill...@binaryhelix.net - 1.23.1-2
- rebuilt

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Lorenzo Villani lvill...@binaryhelix.net - 1.23.1-3
- Pass --without-xsel to configure, if you want xsel install its package instead
- Fix file list
- Drop unneeded BuildRequires


gegl-0.1.0-1.fc12
-
* Thu Jul 02 2009 Nils Philippsen
- version 0.1.0
- use --disable-gtk-doc to avoid rebuilding documentation (#481404)
- remove *.la files in %{_libdir}/gegl-*/ (#509292)

* Thu Jul 02 2009 Nils Philippsen - 0.1.0-1
- fix cflags for building


gnote-0.5.2-2.fc12
--
* Sat Jul 04 2009 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org - 0.5.2-1
- New upstream bug fix release
- http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnote-list/2009-July/msg0.html

* Sat Jul 04 2009 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org - 0.5.2-2
- Build requires libuuid-devel instead of e2fsprogs-devel


gstreamer-java-1.2-2.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Levente Farkas lfar...@lfarkas.org - 1.2-2
- don't build debuginfo pacakges since it's actualy a noarch pacakge


gyachi-1.2.1-4.fc12
---
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Gregory D Hosler ghos...@users.sourceforge.net - 1.2.1-4
- Fix double post of YM-9 client text.


hunspell-pt-0.20090702-1.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Caolan McNamara caol...@redhat.com - 0.20090702-1
- latest pt_BR version


ibus-rawcode-1.2.0.20090703-1.fc12
--
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - @ver...@-1
- upstream release 1.2.0


ibus-sayura-1.2.0.20090703-1.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - @ver...@-1
- upstream release 1.2.0


kdebase-workspace-4.2.95-6.fc12
---
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org - 4.2.95-6
- add kde-plasma-networkmanagement to the default panel if installed


kdelibs-4.2.95-3.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 4.2.95-2
- up min versions, phonon, strigi, soprano (#509511)

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 4.2.95-3
- plasma animation crasher (kdebug#198338)


kipi-plugins-0.4.0-1.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org 0.4.0-1
- kipi-plugins-0.4.0


konversation-1.2-0.2.alpha4.fc12

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.2-0.2.alpha4
- konversation-1.2-alpha4


leafnode-1.11.7-2.fc12
--
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com - 1.11.7-2
- Fix xinetd file to use ipv4 for bug #509218


lekhonee-0.6-1.fc12
---
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Kushal Das kus...@fedoraproject.org 0.6-1
- New release


libtorrent-0.12.5-1.fc12

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Conrad Meyer kon...@tylerc.org - 0.12.5-1
- Bump version.


libvirt-0.6.5-1.fc12

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com - 0.6.4-3.fc12
- Handle shared/readonly image labelling (bug #493692)
- Don't unnecessarily try to change a file context (bug #507555)
- Don't try to label a disk with no path (e.g. empty cdrom) (bug #499569)

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com - 0.6.4-4.fc12
- Fix libvirtd crash with bad capabilities data (bug #505635)

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Daniel Veillard veill...@redhat.com - 0.6.5-1.fc12
- Upstream release of 0.6.5
- OpenNebula driver
- many bug fixes


mozplugger-1.12.1-3.fc12

* Fri Jul 03 2009 Than Ngo t...@redhat.com - 1.12.1-3
- fix #469257, selinux policy and mozplugger do not get along


obexd-0.14-1.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com 0.14-1
- Update to 0.14


ocaml-camlimages-3.0.1-10.fc12
--
* Fri Jul 03 2009 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com - 3.0.1-10
- ocaml-camlimages: PNG reader multiple integer overflows
  (CVE 2009-2295 / RHBZ#509531).


openoffice.org-3.1.1-15.1.fc12
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Re: Time for 2.6.30 in F-11?

2009-07-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bojan Smojver wrote:
 Now that .1 is out, is there anything in particular stopping F-11 from
 having this kernel?

And why is F10 still stuck on 2.6.27? 2.6.29 has been in updates-testing for
ages now.

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Re: readline update?

2009-07-04 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Patrice Dumas wrote:
 Certainly not. Many very useful package are not utf8 aware

 Those packages need to be fixed. It is not acceptable that we ship
 applications which don't work properly in our default locales. You can't
 even open your files with those broken applications if they're in a
 directory containing special characters.

 at least many that use motif or the athena widget set.

 Those applications are obsolete by definition.

Sure for most people they are .. same as old gtk1 apps.
But who is forcing anybody to use them?

They are not installed by default, and adding unicode support to
legacy frameworks means breaking API/ABI and the apps would have to be
ported.
In this case we could as well port them to newer frameworks and be done with it.

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Re: Building packages for EPEL

2009-07-04 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Saturday 04 July 2009 03:23:59 am Gregory Hosler wrote:
 SmootherFrOgZ wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Gregory Hoslerghos...@redhat.com wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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  Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  EPEL is now using koji to build instead of plague.  please make sure
  that you update th common directory in your checkout to pick up the
  needed changes to submit builds.
 
  I was able to do builds for EL-4/EL-5 using koji. thanks a lot!
 
  Bodhi support will come early next week to issue updates.
 
  Please let us know as and when make update will be available. Until
  then, what is the alternative? http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates ?
 
  make update goes to bodhi as well as
  http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates; which is bodhi UI.
 
  epel-releng will be taking care of the updates for now.

 So if I understand things ... once I have I clean make build I can
 either use bodhi, or drop an email to epel-rel...@lists.fedoraproject.org ?
 (I'm more inclined to use the web interface, but I just want to clarify
 the alternatives :-)
Dropping an email to  epel-releng is not an option.  you need to either create 
a sn update via make update  or https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/  
you should file a ticket https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/newticket making sure 
to select the epel component if you need something tagged into the override 
tags so you can build against it.

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Re: rawhide report: 20090703 changes

2009-07-04 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:04:44 +, Rawhide Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org 
wrote:

 glibc-2.10.90-2
 ---
 * Thu Jul 02 2009 Andreas Schwab asch...@redhat.com 2.10.90-2
 - Update from master.
 
 * Fri Jun 26 2009 Andreas Schwab asch...@redhat.com 2.10.90-1
 - Update from master.
 - Enable multi-arch support on x86/x86-64.
 - Add requires glibc-headers to glibc-devel (#476295).
 - Implement second fallback mode for DNS requests (#505105).
 - Don't generate invalid POSIX TZ string for Asia/Dhaka timezone (#506941).
 - Allow backtrace through __longjmp_chk on powerpc.

This glibc makes all applications to segfault immediately (on x86_64),
rendering system unbootable and unrecoverable without external help.
I copied glibc files from another box to make my workstation working
again.

It sure was a fabulous debut as a maintainer for Andreas (according
to changelog he took over from Jakub).

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Re: rawhide report: 20090703 changes

2009-07-04 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 07/04/2009 11:16 AM, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:04:44 +, Rawhide Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org 
 wrote:
 
 glibc-2.10.90-2
 ---
 * Thu Jul 02 2009 Andreas Schwab asch...@redhat.com 2.10.90-2
 - Update from master.

 * Fri Jun 26 2009 Andreas Schwab asch...@redhat.com 2.10.90-1
 - Update from master.
 - Enable multi-arch support on x86/x86-64.
 - Add requires glibc-headers to glibc-devel (#476295).
 - Implement second fallback mode for DNS requests (#505105).
 - Don't generate invalid POSIX TZ string for Asia/Dhaka timezone (#506941).
 - Allow backtrace through __longjmp_chk on powerpc.
 
 This glibc makes all applications to segfault immediately (on x86_64),
 rendering system unbootable and unrecoverable without external help.
 I copied glibc files from another box to make my workstation working
 again.

I hit this as well, rolling back to: glibc-2.10.1-2 got me running again.

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Re: rawhide report: 20090703 changes

2009-07-04 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:47:35 +0200, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote:

  I hit this as well, rolling back to: glibc-2.10.1-2 got me running again.
 
 It is actually prelink, a fixed prelink is in package CVS, but can't be
 built because libselinux is broken.
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509575

Indeed, a gentleman on cc: for bz#509655 pointed out that it's prelink.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509655

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Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono

2009-07-04 Thread Debarshi Ray
 I don't see a package review request or any koji builds. Are you sure
 it's coming to Fedora?

 Solang developers need to port it to the newer version of libgda first.
 Otherwise it would require a compat package to get into the repository.

To be precise, it is actually libgdamm. The 4.x API is something we
are not comfortable with, so we need some help to move from 3.x to it.

 They also need to support latest version of libexiv2

It is already there in Git.

Happy hacking,
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Re: readline update?

2009-07-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Ralf Corsepius, Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:29:46 +0200:
 I thought, we banned all non-utf-8 aware packages?

I agree, who needs grep after all :)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=194471
/kidding

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Re: readline update?

2009-07-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Ralf Corsepius, Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:29:46 +0200:
 I thought, we banned all non-utf-8 aware packages?

And BTW zsh has been fixed not to corrupt non-ASCII filenames?

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Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:40:44PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
 No, not if they bundle the generated auto* files with their tarballs, as  
 they are supposed to do.

They're not supposed to do that.  Don't make stuff up.

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Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support

2009-07-04 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi.

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:58:52 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote
 I wanted to draw your attention to a feature I've proposed for Fedora 
 12, mysteriously called Extended Life Cycle.

Is it that time of the year again?

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Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support

2009-07-04 Thread Brian Pepple
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 00:22 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
 On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:58:52 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote
  I wanted to draw your attention to a feature I've proposed for Fedora 
  12, mysteriously called Extended Life Cycle.
 
 Is it that time of the year again?

Geez, I was going to say thing.  Didn't we have this discussion about 8
months ago?

Later,
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Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support

2009-07-04 Thread Dr. Diesel
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:

 On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 00:22 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
  On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:58:52 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote
   I wanted to draw your attention to a feature I've proposed for Fedora
   12, mysteriously called Extended Life Cycle.
 
  Is it that time of the year again?

 Geez, I was going to say thing.  Didn't we have this discussion about 8
 months ago?

 Later,
 /B


How about Reduced Life Cycle, I'd like to get to F30 quicker!


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Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support

2009-07-04 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:22:41 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger fed...@camperquake.de
wrote:
 Hi.
 
 On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:58:52 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote
 I wanted to draw your attention to a feature I've proposed for Fedora 
 12, mysteriously called Extended Life Cycle.
 
 Is it that time of the year again?

BINGO!

The first response spawns a dead branch to this thread, congratulations!

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Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support

2009-07-04 Thread Julian Aloofi
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle reads:
 Say a desktop environment runs Fedora 9 today, then within a month
 after Fedora 11 is released, the user can choose to either upgrade to
 Fedora 10 (N+1), or Fedora 11 (N+2). This is not considered a suitable
 amount of time for corporate desktop environments, where projects need
 to be defined, testing needs to be performed, resources have to be
 alocated, etc, before any of the actual work can be done.

To be honest, I think environments that work like that won't use Fedora
anyway if it wasn't supported for at least three, let's say two and a
half, years.
People hate work, and it would be a lot of work to maintain 5 or even
six parallel versions of Fedora. Maybe something like a Fedora LTS
version is more likely to be a success.
But hey, I like the idea behind it, let's see how it develops.


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Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support

2009-07-04 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:13:14 +0200, Julian Aloofi
julian.fedorali...@googlemail.com wrote:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Extended_Life_Cycle reads:
 Say a desktop environment runs Fedora 9 today, then within a month
 after Fedora 11 is released, the user can choose to either upgrade to
 Fedora 10 (N+1), or Fedora 11 (N+2). This is not considered a suitable
 amount of time for corporate desktop environments, where projects need
 to be defined, testing needs to be performed, resources have to be
 alocated, etc, before any of the actual work can be done.
 
 To be honest, I think environments that work like that won't use Fedora
 anyway if it wasn't supported for at least three, let's say two and a
 half, years.

Having to agree with your general statement -not necessarily the exact
period- I think neither of us can commit to extending even a single
release's life cycle to that extent right now. We'll have to start
somewhere, as you'll agree, and so we're thinking of starting out here; 3
releases to maintain in parallel, for those that opt-in, excluding EPEL
(which has long term support in all it's aspects already).

 People hate work, and it would be a lot of work to maintain 5 or even
 six parallel versions of Fedora. Maybe something like a Fedora LTS
 version is more likely to be a success.

While of course we'd never call it LTS, and while LTS has a very much
different value proposition then what is in the current proposal (LTS is
just too hard to start with at this moment), the 13 months we have now is
most definitely not suitable for corporate environments.

Whether 6 months of additional availability of security updates is going to
help, and to what extend, we'll have to see. Compared to the current
situation, that'll give an environment 7 months to upgrade beyond the
moment that we now call End-Of-Life for a given release and 3 releases to
choose from -certainly a lot more time then 1 month and 2 releases to
choose from.

I doubt whether the first six months will meet it's full potential in terms
of success since the feature will need to be known to consumers, and just
having it available does not make environments use Fedora all of a sudden.
That too needs time to settle.

Also, I should mention that in my experience, businesses that do choose
Fedora despite the requirement of one upgrade per year, tend to upgrade
within month 7-9 of a given release as long as you give them the full
details on how to make it easier on themselves; (Revisor, optional) -
Cobbler - Puppet.

 But hey, I like the idea behind it, let's see how it develops.

Thanks ;-) I'm sure this will be continued ;-)

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Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/04/2009 03:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:40:44PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
 No, not if they bundle the generated auto* files with their tarballs, as  
 they are supposed to do.
 
 They're not supposed to do that.  Don't make stuff up.
 

It's true there are no literal files matching the wildcard auto* that
are generated for inclusion in the tarballs.  But I think Ralf is
talking about the files generated by the auto-tools (autoconf, automake,
and libtool).  Those are supposed to be bundled with the tarballs.

-Toshio



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Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Toshio Kuratomi writes:


On 07/04/2009 03:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:40:44PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
No, not if they bundle the generated auto* files with their tarballs, as  
they are supposed to do.


They're not supposed to do that.  Don't make stuff up.



It's true there are no literal files matching the wildcard auto* that
are generated for inclusion in the tarballs.  But I think Ralf is
talking about the files generated by the auto-tools (autoconf, automake,
and libtool).  Those are supposed to be bundled with the tarballs.


And, they are.

So, the automake update should not really have any impact on rebuilding any 
existing well-made rpm package. The only possible impact would be to those 
packages that rerun automake or autoconf, for some reason.


Although I do believe that there's a small number of rpms whose spec script 
does that, I really think that this is not correct, and the packaging 
guidelines should really prohibit that. If the configure script needs 
patching, make a patch against the configure script, and/or Makefile.in; 
rather than patching configure.in and Makefile.am, and rerun all the auto 
scripts.




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[Bug 508496] Perl: symbol lookup error: .../Wx.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Guse_safe_putenv_ptr

2009-07-04 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #7 from Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl  2009-07-04 09:21:06 
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Since this stops *all* wxperl applications from running, I'd suggest to raise
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rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/devel .cvsignore, 1.18, 1.19 perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec, 1.21, 1.22 sources, 1.18, 1.19

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Howarth
Author: pghmcfc

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv4223

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec sources 
Log Message:
Update to 1.26 (SECURITY FIX)

verify_hostname_of_cert matched only the prefix for the hostname when no
wildcard was given, e.g. www.example.org matched against a certificate with
name www.exam in it



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.18
retrieving revision 1.19
diff -u -p -r1.18 -r1.19
--- .cvsignore  3 Jul 2009 08:33:25 -   1.18
+++ .cvsignore  4 Jul 2009 21:19:59 -   1.19
@@ -1 +1 @@
-IO-Socket-SSL-1.25.tar.gz
+IO-Socket-SSL-1.26.tar.gz


Index: perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/devel/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.21
retrieving revision 1.22
diff -u -p -r1.21 -r1.22
--- perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec 3 Jul 2009 08:33:25 -   1.21
+++ perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec 4 Jul 2009 21:19:59 -   1.22
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 #
 
 Name:  perl-IO-Socket-SSL
-Version:   1.25
+Version:   1.26
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Perl library for transparent SSL
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -60,6 +60,11 @@ done
 %{_mandir}/man3/IO::Socket::SSL.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul  4 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.26-1
+- Update to 1.26 (verify_hostname_of_cert matched only the prefix for the
+  hostname when no wildcard was given, e.g. www.example.org matched against a
+  certificate with name www.exam in it)
+
 * Fri Jul  3 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.25-1
 - Update to 1.25 (fix t/nonblock.t for OS X 10.5 - CPAN RT#47240)
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.18
retrieving revision 1.19
diff -u -p -r1.18 -r1.19
--- sources 3 Jul 2009 08:33:25 -   1.18
+++ sources 4 Jul 2009 21:19:59 -   1.19
@@ -1 +1 @@
-4866fb7023e74731bd379a315a021cd8  IO-Socket-SSL-1.25.tar.gz
+096319c7ceea6d4f42a264c55a3ea318  IO-Socket-SSL-1.26.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-11 .cvsignore, 1.17, 1.18 perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec, 1.20, 1.21 sources, 1.17, 1.18

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Howarth
Author: pghmcfc

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv6975

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec sources 
Log Message:
Update to 1.26 (SECURITY FIX)

verify_hostname_of_cert matched only the prefix for the hostname when no
wildcard was given, e.g. www.example.org matched against a certificate with
name www.exam in it



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-11/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.17
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -p -r1.17 -r1.18
--- .cvsignore  3 Apr 2009 09:20:34 -   1.17
+++ .cvsignore  4 Jul 2009 21:33:18 -   1.18
@@ -1 +1 @@
-IO-Socket-SSL-1.24.tar.gz
+IO-Socket-SSL-1.26.tar.gz


Index: perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-11/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.20
retrieving revision 1.21
diff -u -p -r1.20 -r1.21
--- perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec 3 Apr 2009 09:20:34 -   1.20
+++ perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec 4 Jul 2009 21:33:18 -   1.21
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 #
 
 Name:  perl-IO-Socket-SSL
-Version:   1.24
+Version:   1.26
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Perl library for transparent SSL
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -57,9 +57,17 @@ done
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
 %doc BUGS Changes README docs/ certs/ example/ util/
 %{perl_vendorlib}/IO/
-%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
+%{_mandir}/man3/IO::Socket::SSL.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul  4 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.26-1
+- Update to 1.26 (verify_hostname_of_cert matched only the prefix for the
+  hostname when no wildcard was given, e.g. www.example.org matched against a
+  certificate with name www.exam in it)
+
+* Fri Jul  3 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.25-1
+- Update to 1.25 (fix t/nonblock.t for OS X 10.5 - CPAN RT#47240)
+
 * Thu Apr  2 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.24-1
 - Update to 1.24 (add verify hostname scheme ftp, same as http)
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-11/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.17
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -p -r1.17 -r1.18
--- sources 3 Apr 2009 09:20:34 -   1.17
+++ sources 4 Jul 2009 21:33:18 -   1.18
@@ -1 +1 @@
-53a407291bf9b3e09ae0f0cff90799a9  IO-Socket-SSL-1.24.tar.gz
+096319c7ceea6d4f42a264c55a3ea318  IO-Socket-SSL-1.26.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-9 .cvsignore, 1.9, 1.10 perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec, 1.12, 1.13 sources, 1.9, 1.10

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Howarth
Author: pghmcfc

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-9
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv9176/F-9

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec sources 
Log Message:
Update to 1.26 (SECURITY FIX)

verify_hostname_of_cert matched only the prefix for the hostname when no
wildcard was given, e.g. www.example.org matched against a certificate with
name www.exam in it



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-9/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.9
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -p -r1.9 -r1.10
--- .cvsignore  18 Nov 2008 10:08:44 -  1.9
+++ .cvsignore  4 Jul 2009 21:41:27 -   1.10
@@ -1 +1 @@
-IO-Socket-SSL-1.18.tar.gz
+IO-Socket-SSL-1.26.tar.gz


Index: perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-9/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.12
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -p -r1.12 -r1.13
--- perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec 18 Nov 2008 10:08:44 -  1.12
+++ perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec 4 Jul 2009 21:41:27 -   1.13
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 #
 
 Name:  perl-IO-Socket-SSL
-Version:   1.18
+Version:   1.26
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Perl library for transparent SSL
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -57,9 +57,29 @@ done
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
 %doc BUGS Changes README docs/ certs/ example/ util/
 %{perl_vendorlib}/IO/
-%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
+%{_mandir}/man3/IO::Socket::SSL.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul  4 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.26-1
+- Update to 1.26 (verify_hostname_of_cert matched only the prefix for the
+  hostname when no wildcard was given, e.g. www.example.org matched against a
+  certificate with name www.exam in it)
+
+* Fri Jul  3 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.25-1
+- Update to 1.25 (fix t/nonblock.t for OS X 10.5 - CPAN RT#47240)
+
+* Thu Apr  2 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.24-1
+- Update to 1.24 (add verify hostname scheme ftp, same as http)
+
+* Wed Feb 25 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.23-1
+- Update to 1.23 (complain when no certificates are provided)
+
+* Sat Jan 24 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.22-1
+- Update to latest upstream version: 1.22
+
+* Thu Jan 22 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.20-1
+- Update to latest upstream version: 1.20
+
 * Tue Nov 18 2008 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.18-1
 - Update to latest upstream version: 1.18
 - BR: perl(IO::Socket::INET6) for extra test coverage


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-9/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.9
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -p -r1.9 -r1.10
--- sources 18 Nov 2008 10:08:44 -  1.9
+++ sources 4 Jul 2009 21:41:27 -   1.10
@@ -1 +1 @@
-2b278fb8784e0ba2d6d779ef7ef5f582  IO-Socket-SSL-1.18.tar.gz
+096319c7ceea6d4f42a264c55a3ea318  IO-Socket-SSL-1.26.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-10 .cvsignore, 1.13, 1.14 perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec, 1.16, 1.17 sources, 1.13, 1.14

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Howarth
Author: pghmcfc

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-10
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv9176/F-10

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec sources 
Log Message:
Update to 1.26 (SECURITY FIX)

verify_hostname_of_cert matched only the prefix for the hostname when no
wildcard was given, e.g. www.example.org matched against a certificate with
name www.exam in it



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-10/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.13
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -p -r1.13 -r1.14
--- .cvsignore  18 Nov 2008 10:02:59 -  1.13
+++ .cvsignore  4 Jul 2009 21:41:27 -   1.14
@@ -1 +1 @@
-IO-Socket-SSL-1.18.tar.gz
+IO-Socket-SSL-1.26.tar.gz


Index: perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-10/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.16
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -p -r1.16 -r1.17
--- perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec 18 Nov 2008 10:02:59 -  1.16
+++ perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec 4 Jul 2009 21:41:27 -   1.17
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 #
 
 Name:  perl-IO-Socket-SSL
-Version:   1.18
+Version:   1.26
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Perl library for transparent SSL
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -57,9 +57,29 @@ done
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
 %doc BUGS Changes README docs/ certs/ example/ util/
 %{perl_vendorlib}/IO/
-%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
+%{_mandir}/man3/IO::Socket::SSL.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jul  4 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.26-1
+- Update to 1.26 (verify_hostname_of_cert matched only the prefix for the
+  hostname when no wildcard was given, e.g. www.example.org matched against a
+  certificate with name www.exam in it)
+
+* Fri Jul  3 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.25-1
+- Update to 1.25 (fix t/nonblock.t for OS X 10.5 - CPAN RT#47240)
+
+* Thu Apr  2 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.24-1
+- Update to 1.24 (add verify hostname scheme ftp, same as http)
+
+* Wed Feb 25 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.23-1
+- Update to 1.23 (complain when no certificates are provided)
+
+* Sat Jan 24 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.22-1
+- Update to latest upstream version: 1.22
+
+* Thu Jan 22 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.20-1
+- Update to latest upstream version: 1.20
+
 * Tue Nov 18 2008 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.18-1
 - Update to latest upstream version: 1.18
 - BR: perl(IO::Socket::INET6) for extra test coverage


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/F-10/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.13
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -p -r1.13 -r1.14
--- sources 18 Nov 2008 10:02:59 -  1.13
+++ sources 4 Jul 2009 21:41:27 -   1.14
@@ -1 +1 @@
-2b278fb8784e0ba2d6d779ef7ef5f582  IO-Socket-SSL-1.18.tar.gz
+096319c7ceea6d4f42a264c55a3ea318  IO-Socket-SSL-1.26.tar.gz

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