Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Aurelien Bompard
> I've taken this one, if you want I can also grab the F10/F11 branches.

Sure, done.


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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Aurelien Bompard
> > - qca2 -- Qt Cryptographic Architecture
>
> I'll take this one

I've added myself as a comaintainer for now if you don't mind, I have a 
package which depends on it, so I may have to rebuild it when you're 
offline.

Thanks !

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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Aurelien Bompard
> I took this one. If you like I can also take care of F11 and F10. So if
>  you orphan them, I'll take ownership of these, too.

Done, thanks.


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Re: popcorn sound with kernel 2.6.29.6

2009-08-22 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jon Masterswrote:
> Can you reproduce if for example running
>
> "pasuspender totem " ?
>
> Jon.


I try with your above command and encountered the same popcorn sound
without any output on the console, except a dialog box from totem
stating:

An error occured :
Disconnected: Connection terminated


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Re: popcorn sound with kernel 2.6.29.6

2009-08-22 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Chitlesh
GOORAH wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jon Masterswrote:
>> Can you reproduce if for example running
>>
>> "pasuspender totem " ?
>>
>> Jon.
>
>
> I try with your above command and encountered the same popcorn sound
> without any output on the console, except a dialog box from totem
> stating:
>
> An error occured :
> Disconnected: Connection terminated
>
>
> Chitlesh
>


Sorry I did receive this on the console:

Connection failure: Connection terminated
** Message: Error: Disconnected: Connection terminated
pulsesink.c(266): gst_pulsering_is_dead ():
/GstPlayBin:play/GstBin:visbin/GstBin:abin/GstBin:audiosinkbin/GstPulseSink:audio-sink

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rawhide report: 20090822 changes

2009-08-22 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Aug 22 06:15:06 UTC 2009

New package aqute-bndlib
BND Library
New package directory-naming
Apache Directory Naming Component
New package django-filter
A Django application for allowing users to filter queryset dynamically
New package django-sorting
A Django application for easy sorting
New package dumbster
Fake SMTP Server
New package easymock
Easy mock objects
New package easymock2
Easy mock objects
New package eclipse-anyedit
AnyEdit plugin for eclipse
New package eclipse-testframework
Eclipse Test Framework
New package hyphen-bn
Bengali hyphenation rules
New package hyphen-mr
Marathi hyphenation rules
New package jakarta-commons-configuration
Commons Configuration Package
New package jakarta-commons-jxpath
Simple XPath interpreter
New package maloc
Minimal Abstraction Layer for Object-oriented C
New package mipv6-daemon
Mobile IPv6 (MIPv6) Daemon
New package moblin-panel-applications
Moblin Panel for launching Applications
New package perl-Devel-LeakGuard-Object
Scoped checks for object leaks
New package php-channel-doctrine
Adds doctrine project channel to PEAR
New package plexus-classworlds
Plexus Classworlds Classloader Framework
New package plexus-cli
Command Line Interface facilitator for Plexus
New package plexus-containers
Containers for Plexus
New package plexus-digest
Plexus Digest / Hashcode Components
New package plexus-mail-sender
Plexus Mail Sender
New package rubygem-fattr
Fatter attribute for Ruby
New package saxpath
Simple API for XPath
New package shmpps
Shared Memory driver for PPS time signals
New package sugar-record
Recording tool for Sugar
New package sys_basher
A multithreaded hardware exerciser
New package xblas
Extra Precise Basic Linear Algebra Subroutines
New package ytnef
Yerase's TNEF Stream Reader
New package zyx-liveinstaller
Install a running LiveOS rebootlessly
Removed package bigboard
Removed package desktop-data-model
Removed package hal-cups-utils
Removed package online-desktop
Updated Packages:

DevIL-1.7.8-3.fc12
--
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Hans de Goede  1.7.8-3
- Switch Source0 to respun upstream tarbal (added a missing header)


SDL_sound-1.0.3-4.fc12
--
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Warren Togami  - 1.0.3-4
- rebuild


alexandria-0.6.5-3.fc12
---
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Mamoru Tasaka  - 0.6.5-3
- Clarify GLib.convert usage in utils.rb (does not change the 
  functionality of alexandria)


anjal-0.1.0-0.7.20090821git5ac8bfe.fc12
---
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.0-0.5
- Update to latest git head. Improvements to standard desktop skin.

* Fri Aug 21 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.0-0.6
- Drop upstreamed patch

* Fri Aug 21 2009 Peter Robinson  0.1.0-0.7
- Add gconf schema and associated spec scriptlets


anthy-9100h-7.fc12
--
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Akira TAGOH  - 9100h-7
- Stop updating corpus at the build time to avoid creating different dictionary
  among arch. (#816563)


apricots-0.2.6-5.fc12
-
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Jon Ciesla  - 0.2.6-5
- Rebuild for openal-soft.


asc-2.2.0.0-6.fc12
--
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Warren Togami  - 2.2.0.0-6
- rebuild


asymptote-1.84-1.fc12
-
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway  - 1.84-1
- update to 1.84


awstats-6.9-4.fc12
--
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Aurelien Bompard  -  6.9-4
- don't backup the cgi when patching (#518168)


bc-1.06-36.fc12
---
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Zdenek Prikryl  1.06-36
- Don't complain if installing with --excludedocs (#515934)


beagle-0.3.9-14.fc12

* Thu Aug 20 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 0.3.9-13
- Re-enable ppc64.
- Re-enable epiphany

* Thu Aug 20 2009 Toshio Kuratomi  - 0.3.9-14
- Re-disable epiphany -- this is because epiphany lacks python support, not
  because of x86_64 problems.


bzr-1.18-0.1.rc1.fc12
-
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Henrik Nordstrom  - 1.18-0.1.rc1
- Update to 1.18rc1


bzrtools-1.18.0-2.fc12
--
* Thu Aug 20 2009 Henrik Nordstrom  - 1.18.0-2
- Update to 1.18.0


cluster-3.0.1-1.fc12

* Thu Aug 20 2009 Fabio M. Di Nitto  - 3.0.1-1
- New upstream release


cnetworkmanager-0.21.1-1.fc12
-
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Kevin Fenzi  - 0.21.1-1
- Update to 0.21.1


collectl-3.3.5-1.fc12
-
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Dan Horák  3.3.5-1
- upgrade to upstream version 3.3.5


constantine-backgrounds-11.90.2-2.fc12
--
* Fri Aug 21 2009 Martin Sourada  - 11.90.2-1
- First wallpaper respin

* Fri Aug 21 2009 Martin Sourada  - 11.90.2-2
- Forgot to BR: inkscape

* Thu Aug 20 2009 Rex Dieter  - 11.90.1-3
- Provides: system-backgrounds(-kde) (F-12 only)


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Re: openssl packages in dist-f12 (Was: rawhide report: 20090822 changes)

2009-08-22 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 18:15 +0300, Kalev Lember wrote:
> Rawhide Report wrote:
> > ctorrent-1.3.4-12.dnh3.3.2.fc12
> > ---
> > * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.3.4-11.dnh3.3.2
> > - rebuilt with new openssl
> > 
> > * Fri Aug 21 2009 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski  
> > 1.3.4-12.dnh3.3.2
> > - fixed stack-based buffer overflow (CVE-2009-1759, RHBZ #501813)
> 
> > m2crypto-0.20-2
> > ---
> > * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 0.20-2
> > - rebuilt with new openssl
> 
> > mail-notification-5.4-14.fc12
> > -
> > * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 5.4-13
> > - rebuilt with new openssl
> > 
> > * Fri Aug 21 2009 Dmitry Butskoy  - 5.4-14
> > - add gtkhtml3-devel pkgconfig requirements into config stuff
> >   for evolution plugin build
> > 
> > * Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering 
> >  - 5.4-12
> > - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
> 
> > ptlib-2.6.4-3.fc12
> > --
> > * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 2.6.4-3
> > - rebuilt with new openssl
> 
> > xorg-x11-server-1.6.99-39.20090820.fc12
> > ---
> > * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.6.99-38.20090820
> > - rebuilt with new openssl
> > 
> > * Fri Aug 21 2009 Adam Jackson  1.6.99-39.20090820
> > - xserver-1.6.99-default-modes.patch: Don't add default modes to the pool if
> >   the driver returned real modes (and has no EDID).
> > 
> > * Thu Aug 20 2009 Adam Jackson  1.6.99-37.20090820
> > - Today's git snapshot.
> > - xserver-1.6.99-dri2-swapbuffers-fallback.patch: Fix SwapBuffers crash.
> > - xserver-1.6.99-linkmap.patch: Drop, superceded upstream.
> > - xserver-1.6.1-proc-cmdline.patch, xserver-1.6.99-dpms.patch, 
> >   xserver-1.6.99-eventtime.patch: Drop, merged.
> 
> Those 5 packages seem to have ended up in dist-f12 instead of
> dist-f12-openssl where other packages are being rebuilt.

Yes, please if you encounter the openssl rebuild changelog in the and do
not need your new build to land into the public rawhide repository as
soon as possible, please use TARGET=dist-f12-openssl. If you need it to
land into public rawhide then use no TARGET (dist-f12) as usual.

After I resolve the failed rebuilds and be ready for the mass tag move
of the rebuilt packages I'll check whether there are not some newer
rebuilds in dist-f12 anyway and rebuild them appropriately.

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openssl packages in dist-f12 (Was: rawhide report: 20090822 changes)

2009-08-22 Thread Kalev Lember
Rawhide Report wrote:
> ctorrent-1.3.4-12.dnh3.3.2.fc12
> ---
> * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.3.4-11.dnh3.3.2
> - rebuilt with new openssl
> 
> * Fri Aug 21 2009 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski  
> 1.3.4-12.dnh3.3.2
> - fixed stack-based buffer overflow (CVE-2009-1759, RHBZ #501813)

> m2crypto-0.20-2
> ---
> * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 0.20-2
> - rebuilt with new openssl

> mail-notification-5.4-14.fc12
> -
> * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 5.4-13
> - rebuilt with new openssl
> 
> * Fri Aug 21 2009 Dmitry Butskoy  - 5.4-14
> - add gtkhtml3-devel pkgconfig requirements into config stuff
>   for evolution plugin build
> 
> * Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering 
>  - 5.4-12
> - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

> ptlib-2.6.4-3.fc12
> --
> * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 2.6.4-3
> - rebuilt with new openssl

> xorg-x11-server-1.6.99-39.20090820.fc12
> ---
> * Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.6.99-38.20090820
> - rebuilt with new openssl
> 
> * Fri Aug 21 2009 Adam Jackson  1.6.99-39.20090820
> - xserver-1.6.99-default-modes.patch: Don't add default modes to the pool if
>   the driver returned real modes (and has no EDID).
> 
> * Thu Aug 20 2009 Adam Jackson  1.6.99-37.20090820
> - Today's git snapshot.
> - xserver-1.6.99-dri2-swapbuffers-fallback.patch: Fix SwapBuffers crash.
> - xserver-1.6.99-linkmap.patch: Drop, superceded upstream.
> - xserver-1.6.1-proc-cmdline.patch, xserver-1.6.99-dpms.patch, 
>   xserver-1.6.99-eventtime.patch: Drop, merged.

Those 5 packages seem to have ended up in dist-f12 instead of
dist-f12-openssl where other packages are being rebuilt.

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Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-22 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:06:33 +0100
Peter Robinson  wrote:

> Depends on which bits you look at. Most of the packages are based on
> Fedora packages, the whole lot is built using the suse build system.

Depends on how you look at it ;-)

A bit less than half our packages are created using specbuilder, from a
small ini file. For a bunch of these we did borrow the Fedora
description of the package. You can expect Moblin to increasingly use
specbuilder going forward
(including tools we're developing right now to create as much of the
specbuilder metadata as possible straight from the upstream tarbal).

> The NM/connman is an interesting split. 

The Moblin OS uses Connman for everything networking. This is a
different architecture than what Fedora does, where Fedora
has /etc/sysconfig and other scripts that do part of the work etc. At
first this looks like a minor change, but it's kinda fundamental.

I'm not saying that the Fedora style is bad, it's just not what we
picked for the Moblin OS, and it's probably not what Fedora would have
done had they started from scratch.

> > What we really do need is some more directed coordination between
> > the two projects.
> 
> That would be fabulous, but only time will tell.

Moblin and Fedora have rather different objectives. I'd be happy to work
together on areas of joint interest, but I don't see the OSes as a
whole converge, rather they will diverge even more than they already
have.


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Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-22 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:32:25 -0700
Jesse Keating  wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:22 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed
> > patch is below and feedback is welcome.
> 
> Is "Moblin" a trademark of anybody?

yes


I don't know the exact details, but afaik there's very liberal
permissions for the trademark, as long as you pass the compliance
tests...


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Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-22 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:31:55 -0700
Arjan van de Ven  wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:32:25 -0700
> Jesse Keating  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:22 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed
> > > patch is below and feedback is welcome.
> > 
> > Is "Moblin" a trademark of anybody?
> 
> yes
> 
> 
> I don't know the exact details, but afaik there's very liberal
> permissions for the trademark, as long as you pass the compliance
> tests...

I should mention that I actually don't know if/how the trademark works;
I do not that it's zero hassle for those that pass the compliance test
(which is very similar to the lsb testsuite)



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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)

22.08.2009 03:03, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Aurelien Bompard wrote:

- gwenview -- Simple image viewer for KDE


This one is obsolete, gwenview is part of kdegraphics these days.

 Kevin Kofler


But  may be separate package is more "right" solution?? Also not problem 
have both packages in Fedora or I mistaken?


I want take this. Aurélien, if you like I can also take care of F11 and 
F10 branches.


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Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-22 Thread Michel Salim
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 12:04 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:06:33 +0100
> Peter Robinson  wrote:
> 
> > Depends on which bits you look at. Most of the packages are based on
> > Fedora packages, the whole lot is built using the suse build system.
> 
> Depends on how you look at it ;-)
> 
> A bit less than half our packages are created using specbuilder, from a
> small ini file. For a bunch of these we did borrow the Fedora
> description of the package. You can expect Moblin to increasingly use
> specbuilder going forward
> (including tools we're developing right now to create as much of the
> specbuilder metadata as possible straight from the upstream tarbal).
> 
Is specbuilder made available anywhere? I browsed the git repository but
it's not listed there. Given the length of Fedora's current packaging
checklist, it would be something that would be great if we can borrow
it.

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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Michel Salim
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 23:36 +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
wrote:
> 22.08.2009 03:03, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> >> - gwenview -- Simple image viewer for KDE
> >
> > This one is obsolete, gwenview is part of kdegraphics these days.
> >
> >  Kevin Kofler
> 
> But  may be separate package is more "right" solution?? Also not problem 
> have both packages in Fedora or I mistaken?
> 
That's a matter of aesthetics, and there's no real right answer: Debian,
Ubuntu and Mandriva tend to split packages into multiple subs; Fedora
tend to keep as close as a one-to-one correspondence between source RPM
and binary RPM (save splitting off -devel, -doc, and if a package
contains libraries that are usable elsewhere, -libs). openSUSE is
in-between.

The point, though, is that a package maintainer is in charge of the
entire source package (SRPM). So you can't just take over gwenview
without taking over kdegraphics.

Now, if there are any actively-maintained branches (perhaps EPEL 4 or
EPEL 5) that still has a standalone gwenview, and you feel like
maintaining it for that branch, that's a different question.

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Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-22 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:39:36 -0400
Michel Salim  wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 12:04 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:06:33 +0100
> > Peter Robinson  wrote:
> > 
> > > Depends on which bits you look at. Most of the packages are based
> > > on Fedora packages, the whole lot is built using the suse build
> > > system.
> > 
> > Depends on how you look at it ;-)
> > 
> > A bit less than half our packages are created using specbuilder,
> > from a small ini file. For a bunch of these we did borrow the Fedora
> > description of the package. You can expect Moblin to increasingly
> > use specbuilder going forward
> > (including tools we're developing right now to create as much of the
> > specbuilder metadata as possible straight from the upstream tarbal).
> > 
> Is specbuilder made available anywhere? I browsed the git repository
> but it's not listed there. Given the length of Fedora's current
> packaging checklist, it would be something that would be great if we
> can borrow it.
> 

hmmm it's in git.
I'll check on Monday with our sysadmin to see why it's not visible


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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 22:34:24 +0200,
  Aurelien Bompard  wrote:
> I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over:
> 
> - glest & glest-data -- 3D real time strategy game

I'll try taking these. Glest is on the games spin and one way or another I'll
need to deal with Glest (as it is currently broken in rawhide). I might find
myself over my head in which case I'll need to reophan them.

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openssl rebuilds && where is Tomas on 2009-08-24

2009-08-22 Thread Tomas Mraz
Hi,
I've spent whole day today (Sat 22) resolving build failures on
dependent packages after the openssl-1.0.0 upgrade. I will continue on
the remaining openssl rebuild fixes after I return from the short trip I
want to go tomorrow and on Monday. There is still about 30 packages
which are not yet rebuilt.

If you have a package which failed a rebuild and want to look at it you
can try building it into dist-f12-openssl after patching the API calls. 

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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)

22.08.2009 23:44, Michel Salim wrote:

That's a matter of aesthetics, and there's no real right answer: Debian,
Ubuntu and Mandriva tend to split packages into multiple subs; Fedora
tend to keep as close as a one-to-one correspondence between source RPM
and binary RPM (save splitting off -devel, -doc, and if a package
contains libraries that are usable elsewhere, -libs). openSUSE is
in-between.

The point, though, is that a package maintainer is in charge of the
entire source package (SRPM). So you can't just take over gwenview
without taking over kdegraphics.
My point was different: I want use gwenview but don't always use 
kdegrapics, wich have big size. So, I often use it in XFCE.



Now, if there are any actively-maintained branches (perhaps EPEL 4 or
EPEL 5) that still has a standalone gwenview, and you feel like
maintaining it for that branch, that's a different question.

No, maintain it *only* for EPEL is not interesting for me.

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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote:

> 22.08.2009 03:03, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Aurelien Bompard wrote:
>>> - gwenview -- Simple image viewer for KDE
>>
>> This one is obsolete, gwenview is part of kdegraphics these days.
>>
>>  Kevin Kofler
> 
> But  may be separate package is more "right" solution?? Also not problem
> have both packages in Fedora or I mistaken?
> 
> I want take this. Aurélien, if you like I can also take care of F11 and
> F10 branches.

You cannot take gwenview, kdegraphics has Obsoletes: for it and it will stay 
that way. The gwenview package is retired and will stay so. If gwenview is 
to be split, it has to be built as a subpackage of kdegraphics, but I'm 
opposed to that too.

Kevin Kofler


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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote:
> My point was different: I want use gwenview but don't always use
> kdegrapics, wich have big size. So, I often use it in XFCE.

But packaging an obsolete standalone package which is no longer released 
standalone by upstream and which conflicts with another package containing 
the current version surely cannot be the solution, and the resulting file 
conflicts are a violation of Fedora's guidelines.

Kevin Kofler


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Re: Custom installation of Fedora

2009-08-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 16:13:28 -0700,
  Markus Kesaromous  wrote:
> 
> During fedora install, if the user selects a customized  install rather than 
> the default, the user has to manually click on each and every app in the 
> selected group. This is horribly tedious. In the old RH releases, you could 
> just click on "Everything" button, and ALL of the rpms on the DVD would get 
> installed. Is it too much to ask to add the Install Everything button for 
> Fedora

You can right click on the group and select install optional packages.
It is still tedious if you want to install all of the languages packages,
but is OK for most groups.

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Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 15:25:32 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 22:34:24 +0200,
>   Aurelien Bompard  wrote:
> > I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over:
> > 
> > - glest & glest-data -- 3D real time strategy game
> 
> I'll try taking these. Glest is on the games spin and one way or another I'll
> need to deal with Glest (as it is currently broken in rawhide). I might find
> myself over my head in which case I'll need to reophan them.

I have a new rawhide build out now to handle the openal-soft change and
finish the update that was partially setup when I took over. The build isn't
really really tested yet, as my rawhide machines don't have 3d and I am
in the process of making a livedvd to let me test on some other machines.
I took over the outstanding bugs.

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