Re: libprojectM Packaging Problem

2009-10-10 Thread Mamoru Tasaka

Jameson wrote, at 10/11/2009 06:37 AM +9:00:

I'm having trouble getting the new version of libprojectM packaged,
and hope someone can shed some light on this for me.  


Would you upload the srpm you are trying somewhere?


When I enter the
commands to build it manually, it builds fine, but when trying to
package it, it comes out with commands like:




Which fail due to ;-fPIC.  Any ideas on why this is happening?  It
looks to me that it's a simple matter of getting rid of the ; in the
command, but I have no idea why it's there using rpmbuild, but not
when I build manually.

Thanks,
=-Jameson


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Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth

On 10/10/2009 11:07 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:


Just upgraded my F11 workstation, which included an upgrade to 
thunderbird-3.0-2.7.b4.fc11.x86_64


Without any prompting or warning, my email layout -- a key interface 
into my open source development workflow -- was changed to use 
something called "smart folders".




Wrong list and a week late[1]. No need to continue the old discussion here.

[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-October/msg00110.html

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thunderbird upgrade - wtf?

2009-10-10 Thread Jeff Garzik


Just upgraded my F11 workstation, which included an upgrade to 
thunderbird-3.0-2.7.b4.fc11.x86_64


Without any prompting or warning, my email layout -- a key interface 
into my open source development workflow -- was changed to use something 
called "smart folders".


Also annoying, though of less impact to me personally, was the decision 
(again, without prompting or warning) to index all of my email -- of 
which there is a considerable amount.


Now, I'm sure smart folders are a nifty new feature, but where was the 
warning about this upgrade?  Why was this done late in F11, rather than F12?


IMO, major MUA upgrades should be handled better than this.

Jeff



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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:17:16AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> Well, that's only valid if we actually do anything to ensure multilib
> compilation actually *works*, right now all we enforce is that the
> packages don't conflict (which isn't the same thing at all).

It's also valid if we want to help people to be able to have multilib
compilation work, even if it is not used in fedora rpm builds. I have
no knowledge about this issue, but I guess that having multilib devel
packages installed allows users comppiling software to easily use one
or the other library, even if it involves setting some flags by hand,
and, hopefully, with pkg-config setting flags by hand is not required.

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Re: Development packages for Thunderbird/Sunbird

2009-10-10 Thread Matej Cepl
Henrik /KaarPoSoft, Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:20:44 +0200:
> However, to compile blueZync, development packages for thunderbird and
> sunbird are needed
> (i.e. header files, idl files etc).
> 
> As far as I can see, not such -devel packages are available for Fedora
> 11 or 12.

When you install xulrunner*devel what files you are missing?

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libprojectM Packaging Problem

2009-10-10 Thread Jameson
I'm having trouble getting the new version of libprojectM packaged,
and hope someone can shed some light on this for me.  When I enter the
commands to build it manually, it builds fine, but when trying to
package it, it comes out with commands like:

cd /home/ipfreely/rpmbuild/BUILD/libprojectM-1.2.0r1295/Renderer &&
/usr/lib64/ccache/c++   -DUSE_FBO -DLINUX -DSTBI_NO_DDS -DUSE_THREADS
-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic ;-fPIC
-I/home/ipfreely/rpmbuild/BUILD/libprojectM-1.2.0r1295
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX="\"/usr\"" -o CMakeFiles/Renderer.dir/FBO.o -c
/home/ipfreely/rpmbuild/BUILD/libprojectM-1.2.0r1295/Renderer/FBO.cpp

Which fail due to ;-fPIC.  Any ideas on why this is happening?  It
looks to me that it's a simple matter of getting rid of the ; in the
command, but I have no idea why it's there using rpmbuild, but not
when I build manually.

Thanks,
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Re: Development packages for Thunderbird/Sunbird

2009-10-10 Thread Felix Kaechele

 Original Message  
Subject: Development packages for Thunderbird/Sunbird
From: Henrik /KaarPoSoft 
To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com
Date: 09.10.2009 18:20



I would like blueZync to work on Fedora too
(currently developing on Debian and Ubuntu).


Me too. I did start a packaging effort some time ago and caused a little 
disaster by updating libsyncml to a newer version to build blueZync. Our 
problem was that nothing else could be built against the new version of 
libsyncml.



As far as I can see, not such -devel packages are available
for Fedora 11 or 12.


That is correct.


Can anybody guide me as to how to kindly request such
packages for Fedora?


The best would be to file a bug against both thunderbird and sunbird and 
kindly state what you would need for building blueZync.
If you as the developer did that, that would be great. As soon as the 
development files are available I'd be glad working with you on getting 
blueZync into Fedora.


Felix

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Re: Maintainer MIA: Claudio Tomasoni

2009-10-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 10.10.2009, 21:41 +0200 schrieb Chitlesh GOORAH:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > I am starting the AWOL procedure [1] for Claudio Tomasoni, because he
> > didn't respond to a bug I opened 5 months ago [2]. Chitlesh even tried
> > to contact him for more than 7 months [3]. We should prepare for taking
> > over Claudio's packages [4].
> 
> I'm willing to take over :
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/octaviz
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/qtoctave

Great, but there are still two weeks left.

> Chitlesh

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Re: Maintainer MIA: Claudio Tomasoni

2009-10-10 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> I am starting the AWOL procedure [1] for Claudio Tomasoni, because he
> didn't respond to a bug I opened 5 months ago [2]. Chitlesh even tried
> to contact him for more than 7 months [3]. We should prepare for taking
> over Claudio's packages [4].

I'm willing to take over :
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/octaviz
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/qtoctave

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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Mamoru Tasaka

Michael Schwendt wrote, at 10/11/2009 01:09 AM +9:00:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:32:40 +0200, Patrice wrote:


On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 05:21:37PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. 

Indeed, obviously this has changed. Changes like this should be
announced somewhere, 


What is the source of these rumours that file timestamp differences
would cause conflicts?


I guess these rumors came because sometimes some programs creating
document files (mostly html files) or so embeded the timestamp
of the date in those files and that actually caused multilib
conflict (i.e. not the timestamp of the files but the embedded strings
in those files).

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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 10:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> I guess the point is that if we actually intend to support 'you can
> cross-compile with any -devel package from another arch that's included

gah, I know I don't really mean cross-compile, it's been pointed out to
me before that it's the wrong term. you know what I mean. sorry.

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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 18:05 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:47:59 -0700, Adam wrote:
> 
> > Of course, that turns the larger question into 'why do we put i686
> > -devel packages in the x86-64 repo, not just the lib packages',
> 
> Because not all files in -devel packages cover multiple target
> platforms. Example: You could not build for i686 with headers that
> are specific to x86_64, and you would also need the .so symlinks for
> libraries in the appropriate libdir.

Well, that's only valid if we actually do anything to ensure multilib
compilation actually *works*, right now all we enforce is that the
packages don't conflict (which isn't the same thing at all). I hope I'm
not dragging him into the conversation unwillingly, but Colin Walters
raised those points on IRC:

 well, what's the ultimate goal?  just avoiding the OS
exploding if you happen to somehow get an i386 -devel?  or actually be
able to compile 32 bit on 64 hosts?
 those are pretty different things

...

 people keep trying to scope creep multilib to include
compilation, which we need to clamp down on, and tell them to use mock
 well last time we tried to make major changes to our multilib
strategy, Jeremy was the one to play Captain No
 and he's gone now, so

I guess the point is that if we actually intend to support 'you can
cross-compile with any -devel package from another arch that's included
in the repository' we may need more strict policies / work to ensure
that's actually possible, and if we intend *not* to support that, but
rather tell people to use mock, there's no reason to include -devel
packages in multilib.

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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:32:40 +0200, Patrice wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 05:21:37PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > > 
> > > Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. 
> > 
> > Indeed, obviously this has changed. Changes like this should be
> > announced somewhere, 

What is the source of these rumours that file timestamp differences
would cause conflicts?

> > I guess Kevin and me are not the only one packagers
> > who still believe they have to care for timestamps.
> 
> I am not sure that timestamps created conflicts in the past.

If they have ever lead to conflicts, then only as a result of
a temporary bug.

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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:47:59 -0700, Adam wrote:

> Of course, that turns the larger question into 'why do we put i686
> -devel packages in the x86-64 repo, not just the lib packages',

Because not all files in -devel packages cover multiple target
platforms. Example: You could not build for i686 with headers that
are specific to x86_64, and you would also need the .so symlinks for
libraries in the appropriate libdir.

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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 05:21:37PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > 
> > Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. 
> 
> Indeed, obviously this has changed. Changes like this should be
> announced somewhere, I guess Kevin and me are not the only one packagers
> who still believe they have to care for timestamps.

I am not sure that timestamps created conflicts in the past. However
in rpm -V there were marked as being modified. Maybe this is what changed.
In any case I think that we should care for timestamps even if they are
not reasons for conflicts. Some packagers disagree, though, that
timestamps are useful and should be correct.

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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 10.10.2009, 11:30 +0300 schrieb Panu Matilainen:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> >
> > If the contents of the file is the same and they only their timestamps
> > differ, you can touch them reversely after install as in
> > http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/exo/devel/exo.spec?r1=1.38&r2=1.39
> 
> Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. 

Indeed, obviously this has changed. Changes like this should be
announced somewhere, I guess Kevin and me are not the only one packagers
who still believe they have to care for timestamps.

> Content (and permission) differences do.

I took a look at the files from exo and they did differ. Tanks for the
pointer.

>   - Panu -

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Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 15:02 +, Scott Tsai wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:57:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > It would be nice to have more comprehensive 3D tests.
> 
> I think it's worth packaging the "piglit" OopenGL test suite:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/piglit
> and using it in graphics test days.
> 
> According tho this blog post by Eric Anholt and the git commit log,
> upstream open source graphics driver developers are still constantly
> adding tests to it:
> http://anholt.livejournal.com/41522.html

Good point. I think Francois Cami had some plans to this effect, but
he's been away from the project for a few months lately, so maybe I'll
do it instead. Thanks for the reminder.

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Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-10 Thread Scott Tsai
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:57:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> It would be nice to have more comprehensive 3D tests.

I think it's worth packaging the "piglit" OopenGL test suite:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/piglit
and using it in graphics test days.

According tho this blog post by Eric Anholt and the git commit log,
upstream open source graphics driver developers are still constantly
adding tests to it:
http://anholt.livejournal.com/41522.html

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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 22:25 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 16:41 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >
> >>> It's not to be considered a bug, AFAIK. We don't stipulate that
> >>> development packages be installable side-by-side in this way, we only
> >>> stipulate that for library packages where there's a need for it. There's
> >>> no particular use case where you absolutely need both -devel packages
> >>> installed at once.
> >>>
> >> I believe this is incorrect.  devel packages are supposed to be multilib
> >> installable.  There's two things that are two files that conflict above and
> >> there's two different fixes for each.
> >
> > I'm happy to be wrong :), but is this documented anywhere? That's why I
> > thought the opposite was the case, I couldn't find anything to this
> > effect in the packaging documentation when I was starting out.
> >
> 
> Well, I know it is documented that file conflicts are never allowed, ever, 
> at all w/o an explicit conflicts: in the spec file.

Ah, yeah. That would cover it without any need for a specific multilib
policy, for sure. (I checked, and libotf-devel i686 is in the x86-64
repo).

Of course, that turns the larger question into 'why do we put i686
-devel packages in the x86-64 repo, not just the lib packages', but it
does explain for sure that I was wrong in my initial reply, sorry for
that!

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cups/guttenprint color schemes wrong for Epson Stylus CX3500 and other printers

2009-10-10 Thread Casimiro de Almeida Barreto
Maybe off topic but, how to correct color schemes for Epson Printers?
Default is horrible (excess of red, wrong gamma/brightness, etc). I
guess someone must have dealt with that.

Best regards

CdAB



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2009-10-10 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Oct 10 06:15:04 UTC 2009

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- nm: fix failures validating private keys when using the NSS crypto backend
- applet: fix crashes when clicking on menu but not associated (rh #526535)
- editor: fix crash editing wired 802.1x settings
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dracut-002-13.4.git8f397a9b.fc12

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libvoikko-2.2.1-1.fc12
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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 10/10/2009 01:48 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:

Am Freitag, den 09.10.2009, 18:56 -0400 schrieb Neal Becker:



What if the generated docbook documents are different due to different
"id"s? Do we need to separate the docs into a noarch subpackage?

Nope, this doesn't actually help.

The actual fix would be to fix docbook[1] rsp. these docbook-documents' 
sources to not apply "ids" rsp. to produce "deterministic ids".


An alternative work-around would be to "filter out/process" (e.g. by 
using sed) these "id"s, such the generated docs can be generated 
deterministically.


Last resort would be to move such docs into arch' dependent directories 
in arch-dependent packages.


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Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-10 Thread Panu Matilainen

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote:


Am Freitag, den 09.10.2009, 18:56 -0400 schrieb Neal Becker:

Just received:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528237

yum install libotf-devel.i586 libotf-devel.x86_64

yields:

Transaction Check Error:
  file /usr/bin/libotf-config from install of libotf-devel-0.9.8-2.fc11.i586
conflicts with file from package libotf-devel-0.9.8-2.fc11.x86_64
  file /usr/share/doc/libotf-devel-0.9.8/example/Makefile from install of
libotf-devel-0.9.8-2.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package
libotf-devel-0.9.8-2.fc11.x86_64

What is the recommended way to resolve this?


If the contents of the file is the same and they only their timestamps
differ, you can touch them reversely after install as in
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/exo/devel/exo.spec?r1=1.38&r2=1.39


Timestamp differences do NOT cause file conflicts. Content (and 
permission) differences do.


- Panu -

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