Re: mass rebuild and i586 rpms - glglobe

2009-10-25 Thread David Timms

On 10/20/2009 08:48 PM, Milos Jakubicek wrote:

http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/need-rebuild.html

hmmn, glglobe is mine, wonder what went wrong.

It seems that the build logs are no longer available ?
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1504772
eg for: x86_64  (red)
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1516629

And the other 3x orange ones appear to mean cancelled, is that correct ?
Wonder whether they were cancelled manually (ie the whole rebuild) ?
Or did the fail on one arch trigger the cancels ?

Anyway, a scratch build (without change) succeeds:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1766626

Should I bump and rebuild, or just re-request the same build ?
Should I request it to be in F-12 ? (the i586.f11 one that is in f-12 
beta (rawhide) works OK).


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Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/24/2009 06:17 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Was Fedora 12 Beta released with all sort of debugging info. compiled in?
 I just want to find the cause of the general slowness ..

Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging
stuff enabled.

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Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

2009-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 02:37:57AM +0200, Milos Jakubicek wrote:

 Newpackage (some of them even for months!):
 python-decorator3

Please do not rebuild this one.  It's currently just a forwards compat
package for EL-5.  I'll dead.package the devel package soon.

 zikula-module-filterutil

Please do not rebuild this one either.  I imported and built it for EL-5 for
someone I'm mentoring on packaging because we need it for Fedora Insight.
I'll be using building of the package for F-12 as part of mentoring when we
can both clear up some time.

-Toshio


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Re: orphaning (eol) gtk-qt-engine

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
 By the way, colours on old kde3 apps doesn't work,
 either, despite enabling for non-kde4 applications in
 system settings (kftpgrabber) - I can see it already:
 file a bug report :-)

There's already an ages-old bug report, the upstream KDE developers don't 
care. :-( You have to set up the colors separately for KDE 3 apps, using 
kcmshell colors (but it's a PITA as it doesn't support KDE 4 color 
schemes). I might try to fix this somehow.

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Re: rawhide report: 20091024 changes

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rawhide Report wrote:
 nickle-2.69-2.fc12
 --
 * Fri Oct 23 2009 Michel Salim sali...@fedoraproject.org - 2.69-2
 - Lower FORTIFY setting; level 2 does not work with gcc 4.4.2

That's a completely WRONG fix!!! You MUST fix the application instead. 
Disabling security flags can't be the right approach to fix compilation, 
they're being used for a reason!

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Re: rawhide report: 20091024 changes

2009-10-25 Thread Denis Leroy

On 10/25/2009 09:49 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Rawhide Report wrote:

nickle-2.69-2.fc12
--
* Fri Oct 23 2009 Michel Salimsali...@fedoraproject.org  - 2.69-2
- Lower FORTIFY setting; level 2 does not work with gcc 4.4.2


That's a completely WRONG fix!!! You MUST fix the application instead.
Disabling security flags can't be the right approach to fix compilation,
they're being used for a reason!


Calm down son, calm down.

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OpenSER / Kamailio

2009-10-25 Thread Felix Kaechele
Hi there,
I'm just starting to play with my SIP Phones using OpenSER.
I was wondering why there have been no updates to the OpenSER package
since it was renamed to Kamailio in version 1.4.0?
I did however notice that version 1.4.0 in fact is of an earlier date
than version 1.3.4 (which still is named OpenSER and is in Fedora).

So is there an actual difference between OpenSER and Kamailio - other
than the name - that prevents us from replacing the OpenSER package with
a Kamailio package. Or is it just that nobody has submitted a review
request for Kamailio yet?

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rawhide report: 20091025 changes

2009-10-25 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Oct 25 06:15:11 UTC 2009










Broken deps for ppc64
--
python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot



Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 0

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Re: OpenSER / Kamailio

2009-10-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All!

2009/10/25 Felix Kaechele fe...@fetzig.org:
 Hi there,
 I'm just starting to play with my SIP Phones using OpenSER.
 I was wondering why there have been no updates to the OpenSER package
 since it was renamed to Kamailio in version 1.4.0?

There are plans to package sip-router, when it will reach some level
of quality, since it's a merge of SER and OpenSER/Kamailio. Also,
there is an attempt to package OpenSIPs (another one fork of
SER/OpenSER codebase) - take a look here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529831

 I did however notice that version 1.4.0 in fact is of an earlier date
 than version 1.3.4 (which still is named OpenSER and is in Fedora).

1.3.4 is the last stable version of OpenSER. Since ver. 1.4.0 it was
rebranded as Kamailio.

 So is there an actual difference between OpenSER and Kamailio - other
 than the name - that prevents us from replacing the OpenSER package with
 a Kamailio package.

A lots, actually. There are some changes in config-file syntax, in
plugins and so on. Every version of OpenSER/Kamailio
(1.3.x/1.4.x/1.5.x) is incompatible to some degree with previous one.
Fortunately, they can be installed in parallel due to different naming
scheme.

The curse of this project is the team/features management issues,
which led project to the number of consequent forks (and one merge),
which confuses end users a lot. One of popular questions from
customers, is which one from these routers should we choose -
SER/OpenSER/OpenSIPs/Kamailio/SIP-Router?. I'm voting for OpenSER
1.3.4 right now - it's stable and it was proved to work reliably.
Perhaps, at 2010, we may consider switching to SIP Router.

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Re: Should installkernel be passing --dracut to new-kernel-pkg?

2009-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/22/2009 06:18 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
 Hi,
 
 /sbin/installkernel doesn't pass --dracut to /sbin/new-kernel-pkg, so a
 make install from a kernel.org kernel tree tries to
 invoke /sbin/mkinitrd rather than dracut.  Is that intentional?
 
 Also, any ideas on why a dracut-generated initramfs image generated for
 a kernel.org kernel tree would be so much larger than the Fedora kernel
 one (same .config)?
 
 12M /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.x86_64.img
 82M /boot/initramfs-2.6.32-rc2.img

If you want to reduce the size, set hostonly in /etc/dracut.conf

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut/Options#-H.2C_--hostonly

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Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi

LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in
this release

http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html

Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it to see how the
performance impact is?

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi Haïkel,

Haïkel Guémar wrote:
 Author: hguemar

 Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/python-mpd/F-10
 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27941

 Modified Files:
   python-mpd.spec sources
 Log Message:
 Updated to 0.2.1

Any reason to update this for F-10 (or any Fedora branches really), as
the only change upstream from 0.2.0 was to fix a minor bug on Windows?
The 0.2.1 release was made in June 2008 and we've lived without it
until now. ;)

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
I wrote:
 Hi Haïkel,

 Haïkel Guémar wrote:
 Author: hguemar

 Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/python-mpd/F-10
 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27941

 Modified Files:
  python-mpd.spec sources
 Log Message:
 Updated to 0.2.1

 Any reason to update this for F-10 (or any Fedora branches really), as
 the only change upstream from 0.2.0 was to fix a minor bug on Windows?
 The 0.2.1 release was made in June 2008 and we've lived without it
 until now. ;)

BTW, your email address has a typo in the %changelog. :/

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Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in
 this release
 
 http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html
 
 Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it to see how the
 performance impact is?

A lot of upstream software on GNU/Linux only supports GCC. Clang tries to 
support GCC extensions, but I strongly doubt it'll compile all upstream code 
unchanged, and upstream projects might even reject patches to fix the build 
with Clang because they only support GCC.

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Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread King InuYasha
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:

 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in
  this release
 
 
 http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html
 
  Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it to see how the
  performance impact is?

 A lot of upstream software on GNU/Linux only supports GCC. Clang tries to
 support GCC extensions, but I strongly doubt it'll compile all upstream
 code
 unchanged, and upstream projects might even reject patches to fix the build
 with Clang because they only support GCC.

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Also, clang's support with C++ ABI is still very broken. It's listed under
known issues. While most applications are made with C or Python, there are
still a fair number of C++ applications...
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Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/25/2009 10:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in
 this release

 http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html

 Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it to see how the
 performance impact is?
 
 A lot of upstream software on GNU/Linux only supports GCC. Clang tries to 
 support GCC extensions, but I strongly doubt it'll compile all upstream code 
 unchanged, and upstream projects might even reject patches to fix the build 
 with Clang because they only support GCC.

We wouldn't know unless we try. Guess work doesn't lead to much. Hence
my question. Has anyone actually tried to do compile say a large C
codebase with LLVM?

Rahul

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Re: mass rebuild and i586 rpms - glglobe

2009-10-25 Thread Milos Jakubicek

On 25.10.2009 08:18, David Timms wrote:

On 10/20/2009 08:48 PM, Milos Jakubicek wrote:

http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/need-rebuild.html

hmmn, glglobe is mine, wonder what went wrong.
It seems that the build logs are no longer available ?


No, they are kept only for 14(?) days or so.


Should I bump and rebuild, or just re-request the same build ?
Should I request it to be in F-12 ? (the i586.f11 one that is in f-12
beta (rawhide) works OK).


I've rebuilt and will request tagging together with some other packages.

Milos

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texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?

2009-10-25 Thread Neal Becker
I wonder if texlive should include a /etc/profile.d package to set TEXMFCNF, 
so that other packages, such as xdvipdfmx will work?  Or, should texlive 
just obsolete xdvipdfmx and include it's own version?

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Re: texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?

2009-10-25 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2009/10/25 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
 I wonder if texlive should include a /etc/profile.d package to set TEXMFCNF,
 so that other packages, such as xdvipdfmx will work?  Or, should texlive
 just obsolete xdvipdfmx and include it's own version?

IMO the latter.

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
Haïkel Guémar wrote:
 This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken,
 since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it.
 Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to
 support branches until EOL and it worked on my test VM.
 Maybe, i'm just a bit maniacal. ;)

 Did it break anything ? For the moment, updates are staging in testing,
 i can unpush them if you think it's more appropriate. :)

Nope, nothing breaks AFAIK (mostly because nothing relevant to a
non-windows system changed, other than the version number).  I was
just curious to know the reason for the update.  Thanks.

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar:

 This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken,
 since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it.
 Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to
 support branches until EOL and it worked on my test VM.
 Maybe, i'm just a bit maniacal. ;)

Definitely. ;) To support does not mean to drown users in useless
updates. We had this discussions over and over again, please look for
the thread called The updates firehose back in June 2007.

 Did it break anything ? For the moment, updates are staging in testing,
 i can unpush them if you think it's more appropriate. :)

In this case I think you really should unpush it. Not only for F-11 but
for F-11 as well, possibly F12 to. If this update doesn't fix anything
on Linux, then don't push it.

 H.

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 22:20 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: 
 Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar:
 
  This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken,
  since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it.
  Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to
  support branches until EOL and it worked on my test VM.
  Maybe, i'm just a bit maniacal. ;)
 
 Definitely. ;) To support does not mean to drown users in useless
 updates. We had this discussions over and over again, please look for
 the thread called The updates firehose back in June 2007.
 
  Did it break anything ? For the moment, updates are staging in testing,
  i can unpush them if you think it's more appropriate. :)
 
 In this case I think you really should unpush it. Not only for F-11 but
 for F-11 as well, possibly F12 to. If this update doesn't fix anything
 on Linux, then don't push it.

Then you get bug from people expecting the latest version because you're
not up to date...

Come-on this is maintainer decision and as long as it doesn't break
anyone, leave it that way.

Pierre

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:20:59 +0100, Christoph wrote:

 Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar:
 
  This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken,
  since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it.
  Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to
  support branches until EOL and it worked on my test VM.
  Maybe, i'm just a bit maniacal. ;)
 
 Definitely. ;) To support does not mean to drown users in useless
 updates. We had this discussions over and over again, please look for
 the thread called The updates firehose back in June 2007.
 
  Did it break anything ? For the moment, updates are staging in testing,
  i can unpush them if you think it's more appropriate. :)
 
 In this case I think you really should unpush it. Not only for F-11 but
 for F-11 as well, possibly F12 to. If this update doesn't fix anything
 on Linux, then don't push it.

And once again, the bodhi update requests for these updates don't try to
explain what changes come with these updates. They are only marked as bug
fix updates with no notes that give details.

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 25/10/2009 22:20, Christoph Wickert a écrit :
 Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar:
 
 This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken,
 since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it.
 Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to
 support branches until EOL and it worked on my test VM.
 Maybe, i'm just a bit maniacal. ;)
 
 Definitely. ;) To support does not mean to drown users in useless
 updates. We had this discussions over and over again, please look for
 the thread called The updates firehose back in June 2007.
 
 Did it break anything ? For the moment, updates are staging in testing,
 i can unpush them if you think it's more appropriate. :)
 
 In this case I think you really should unpush it. Not only for F-11 but
 for F-11 as well, possibly F12 to. If this update doesn't fix anything
 on Linux, then don't push it.
 
 H.
 
 Regards,
 Christoph
 


This was a very very low priority task for me, python-mpd is roughly one
python file mpd.py. There was only one use-case, i could think about :
an unexperienced developer including it in his multiplatform project.
Then, he shares it with his friend under windows (nobody is perfect) and
bang it fails!
Since, this is so controversial, i'll just let them rot on testing, then
end of discussion.


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Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
King InuYasha wrote:
 Also, clang's support with C++ ABI is still very broken. It's listed under
 known issues.

Actually, the ABI issue is only if you use the C code generator, not the 
native ones.

The real problem is that C++ support in Clang is just not complete. You may 
have more luck with llvm-g++, but that one always has trouble keeping up 
with current GCC and it probably doesn't bring all that many benefits over 
just using GCC.

 While most applications are made with C or Python, there are still a fair
 number of C++ applications...

(Nearly) all of KDE is C++!

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves wrote:
 Then you get bug from people expecting the latest version because you're
 not up to date...

That's what NOTABUG is for.

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Haïkel Guémar wrote:
 This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken,

This makes sense in principle, but not if nothing (of relevance to Fedora) 
actually changed.

 Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to
 support branches until EOL and it worked on my test VM.

It's also a good reflex to support all branches with updates, especially 
bugfix updates (and I wish more people would do it), but again, only if 
there's a reason to push the update in the first place. :-)

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Haïkel Guémar wrote:
 This was a very very low priority task for me, python-mpd is roughly one
 python file mpd.py. There was only one use-case, i could think about :
 an unexperienced developer including it in his multiplatform project.

People bundling system libraries deserve whatever they get. We definitely 
don't support this usecase.

 Since, this is so controversial, i'll just let them rot on testing, then
 end of discussion.

It's better to unpush them. Updates should not be sitting in testing 
forever.

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:39:56 +0100, Haïkel wrote:

 This was a very very low priority task for me, python-mpd is roughly one
 python file mpd.py. There was only one use-case, i could think about :
 an unexperienced developer including it in his multiplatform project.
 Then, he shares it with his friend under windows (nobody is perfect) and
 bang it fails!

Expand that scenario a little bit [1]: Imagine that mpd.py suffers from
further bugs specific to that other OS. Would the unexperienced
developer or his friend request bug-fix updates _from you_?

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Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 25/10/2009 22:59, Kevin Kofler a écrit :
 
 It's also a good reflex to support all branches with updates, especially 
 bugfix updates (and I wish more people would do it), but again, only if 
 there's a reason to push the update in the first place. :-)
 
 Kevin Kofler
 

they were unpushed, good package monkeys should listen their peers.

H.

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Re: Should installkernel be passing --dracut to new-kernel-pkg?

2009-10-25 Thread Matt Domsch
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:48:03AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
 Hi,
 
 /sbin/installkernel doesn't pass --dracut to /sbin/new-kernel-pkg, so a
 make install from a kernel.org kernel tree tries to
 invoke /sbin/mkinitrd rather than dracut.  Is that intentional?

Don't know if it's intentional, probably an oversite, but I did get
bitten by this last week myself.

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Recap: blocker bug review meeting 2009-10-23

2009-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
We held the first official blocker bug review meeting for Fedora 12
final release on Friday, 2009-10-23. Many thanks to James Laska, Jesse
Keating, Ray Strode, Matej Cepl, Denise Dumas, Justin Forbes, Bill
Nottingham, Edward Kirk, and Matthias Clasen for their contributions.

We ran through all 51 bugs on the blocker list at the time of the
meeting, accepting or dropping them as blockers and working to ensure
all remaining blockers are in the process of being fixed.

You can see a summary of the entire meeting, with the final decision on
each bug, at:

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-23/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-23-15.00.html

a full log of the meeting (warning: extremely long) is available at:

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-10-23/fedora-bugzappers.2009-10-23-15.00.log.html

The next blocker review meeting will be next Friday, 2009-10-30, at
15:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. Thanks again to all who contributed.

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Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

2009-10-25 Thread Milos Jakubicek
Next bunch built, it's a complete set of those with mock exit status 30 
(I'm curious what does this exit status mean, missing prerequisity is 
denoted by 10) and some others too:


piggyback-2.6.26-4.fc12 (on sparc)
perl-Perl-Critic-1.105-1.fc12
glglobe-0.2-8.fc12
libica-2.0.2-1.fc12 (on s390)
openssl-ibmca-1.0.0-2.fc12 (on s390)
python-polybori-0.5-6.fc12
python-igraph-0.5.2-4.fc12
perl-POE-Component-Client-Keepalive-0.2600-3.fc12
mathgl-1.9-7.fc12
artwiz-aleczapka-fonts-1.3-8.fc12
python-xkit-0.4.2-4.fc12
389-dsgw-1.1.4-1.fc12
perl-Apache2-SOAP-0.73-3.fc12
gds2pov-0.20080229-3.fc12
gdesklets-0.36.1-6.fc12
gedit-plugins-2.26.1-3.fc12
giggle-0.4.91-3.fc12
glabels-2.2.5-2.fc12
gl-117-1.3.2-9.fc12
glade2-2.12.2-7.fc12
glitz-0.5.6-8.fc12
gliv-1.9.6-5.fc12
glob2-0.9.4.1-2.fc12
gnome-applet-grandr-0.4.1-2.fc12
gnome-applet-bubblemon-2.0.14-2.fc12
ladspa-swh-plugins-0.4.15-16.fc12
libbtctl-0.11.1-3.fc12
pfscalibration-1.4-7.fc12
pfstools-1.7.0-8.fc12
klibido-0.2.5-12.fc12
pfqueue-0.5.6-10.fc12
petitboot-0.2-4.fc12
baekmuk-bdf-fonts-2.2-8.fc12

We're slowly narrowing to reasonable count of packages (which are really 
either going to be dead or need fixing, though a few false positives 
are still in the list), everybody is encouraged to take anything from 
http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/need-rebuild.html and try to fix it!;)


Regards,
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Re: Should installkernel be passing --dracut to new-kernel-pkg?

2009-10-25 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:48:03AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
  Hi,
  
  /sbin/installkernel doesn't pass --dracut to /sbin/new-kernel-pkg, so a
  make install from a kernel.org kernel tree tries to
  invoke /sbin/mkinitrd rather than dracut.  Is that intentional?
  
  Also, any ideas on why a dracut-generated initramfs image generated for
  a kernel.org kernel tree would be so much larger than the Fedora kernel
  one (same .config)?
  
  12M /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.1-56.fc12.x86_64.img
  82M /boot/initramfs-2.6.32-rc2.img
 
Do you have CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO set ? The kernel specfile strips the debug info
out to separate debuginfo packages.  If you build it by hand, that doesn't 
happen,
so you get all the symbols etc attached to every module in your initramfs.

Dave

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Re: idea: abrt plugin for yum rpm scriptlets output

2009-10-25 Thread Seth Vidal



On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Rudolf Kastl wrote:


Hello!

While doing some tests and installing a large part of the rawhide
repository content i see that there are various packages that have a
broken %post scriptlet or it is outputting some warnings. maybe it
would be an idea for a abrt-yum plugin to submit those warnings and
errors to bugzilla. unfortunately yum.log doesent record them either.

that could definitely help in keeping the house clean i guess.



try running:

yum history

which will give you a list of yum transaction events.

Then taking whichever history id number from the left-most column and 
running:


yum history info $history_id_number -


see if that shows you some info about the scriptlets.

-sv

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Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram
sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging
 stuff enabled.

I really can't tell if you're joking.

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Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Actually, the ABI issue is only if you use the C code generator, not the
 native ones.

I'm not sure I understand.  How can LLVM-C be ABI-incompatible with plain GCC-C?

I thought that C doesn't have any crazy name or symbol or virtual
table mangling.  The stuff should just work, right?

Does that mean that I can't write a GTK program and compile with
LLVM-C, since I can't link to the GTK libraries?

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Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 23:38:31 -0400,
  Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram
 sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging
  stuff enabled.
 
 I really can't tell if you're joking.

I think that is an exageration. But at various times in the development
cycle debugging is often turned on in the kernel. This can impact performance
or just make the kernel downloads larger. There are separate debuginfo
packages you can get, but you don't get those by default.

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Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread John Reiser

I'm not sure I understand.  How can LLVM-C be ABI-incompatible with plain GCC-C?


See /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 and its symbols, such as stack unwinding, uncommon or 
messy
conversions between data formats, expensive operations on 'long long', etc.

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rpms/perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl/devel .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl.spec, 1.5, 1.6 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2009-10-25 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv17361

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl.spec sources 
Log Message:
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 1.04-1
- update to latest upstream



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- .cvsignore  8 Apr 2009 15:26:45 -   1.4
+++ .cvsignore  25 Oct 2009 07:37:23 -  1.5
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl-1.03.tar.gz
+Catalyst-Log-Log4perl-1.04.tar.gz


Index: perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl/devel/perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl.spec 26 Jul 2009 04:11:11 -  1.5
+++ perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl.spec 25 Oct 2009 07:37:23 -  1.6
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl
-Version:1.03
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:1.04
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Log::Log4perl logging for Catalyst
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -11,10 +11,9 @@ BuildArch:  noarch
 BuildRequires:  perl(Catalyst) = 5.60
 BuildRequires:  perl(Data::Dump)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
-BuildRequires:  perl(Log::Log4perl) = 0.49
+BuildRequires:  perl(Log::Log4perl) = 1.04
 BuildRequires:  perl(MRO::Compat)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Params::Validate)
-BuildRequires:  perl(Sub::Install)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More)
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
 
@@ -26,7 +25,7 @@ as the underlying log mechanism. 
 %setup -q -n Catalyst-Log-Log4perl-%{version}
 
 %build
-%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
+PERL5_CPANPLUS_IS_RUNNING=1 %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
 make %{?_smp_mflags}
 
 %install
@@ -52,6 +51,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Sun Oct 25 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 1.04-1
+- update to latest upstream
+
 * Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.03-2
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Log-Log4perl/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- sources 8 Apr 2009 15:26:45 -   1.4
+++ sources 25 Oct 2009 07:37:23 -  1.5
@@ -1 +1 @@
-23b26077d4e943389dee279026363dc9  Catalyst-Log-Log4perl-1.03.tar.gz
+c747b4c1a97feebf62ee6aa956798148  Catalyst-Log-Log4perl-1.04.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Config-JFDI/devel .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 perl-Config-JFDI.spec, 1.4, 1.5 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2009-10-25 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Config-JFDI/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv10045

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Config-JFDI.spec sources 
Log Message:
* Sun Oct 25 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.064-1
- update to latest upstream release



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Config-JFDI/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- .cvsignore  25 Jun 2009 03:28:39 -  1.4
+++ .cvsignore  25 Oct 2009 09:03:48 -  1.5
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Config-JFDI-0.063.tar.gz
+Config-JFDI-0.064.tar.gz


Index: perl-Config-JFDI.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Config-JFDI/devel/perl-Config-JFDI.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- perl-Config-JFDI.spec   26 Jul 2009 04:37:36 -  1.4
+++ perl-Config-JFDI.spec   25 Oct 2009 09:03:48 -  1.5
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Config-JFDI
-Version:0.063
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:0.064
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Just * Do it: A Catalyst::Plugin::ConfigLoader-style layer 
over Config::Any
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -57,6 +57,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Sun Oct 25 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.064-1
+- update to latest upstream release
+
 * Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.063-2
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Config-JFDI/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- sources 25 Jun 2009 03:28:39 -  1.4
+++ sources 25 Oct 2009 09:03:48 -  1.5
@@ -1 +1 @@
-908f2a01cae3a882340501d3f008a741  Config-JFDI-0.063.tar.gz
+24bbe8ba39d5d19e539483639a0e489b  Config-JFDI-0.064.tar.gz

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[Bug 529172] Fedora::Bugzilla - get_flag() doesn't work for all flags

2009-10-25 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529172


Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED




--- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu  2009-10-26 00:48:21 EDT 
---
Hmm.  Oddly, I can't see the flags you mentioned in the bug referenced by the
test script (private flags?), but I'll get some additional tests in place to
validate the flag functionality.

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