Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-27 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 26/10/2009 23:30, Jud Craft a écrit :
 
 Hence I thought you were talking about ABI issues with C.
 
 I'm not up on how LLVM frontend integration works, so I actually don't
 understand the distinction between the LLVM C Backend and the
 native LLVM backends.
 
 Simply, can I write and compile a GTK program with LLVM?
 
 I'd love to use it for the intuitive error reporting, honestly.
 

the static analyzer works also with gcc, check scan-build.

H.

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ld ignoring parts of LD_LIBRARY_PATH?

2009-10-27 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi,

this is slightly off topic, but may be relevant for fedora developing,
too:

I have set up a small test bed for an application I am converting to a
autotools build system. In this testbed I have:

./lib/libfoo.so
./lib/bar/libbar.so

When I add the lib/ entry to LD_LIBRARY_PATH it is recognized and
scanned for libraries. The same for the lib/bar entry. But when I add
both, the lib/ entry is ignored completely. Is this normal?

regards

Christoph


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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Andrew Haley

Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:06:45PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
 On 10/26/2009 01:34 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
 Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes:

 On 10/26/2009 12:06 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
 Unfortunately, this sounds like only.  Is it out of the question to
 make the client look for this case (an upgraded client in an existing
 unupgraded, unchanged network) and handle it?
 We talked about it... See 
http://linux-nfs.org/pipermail/nfsv4/2009-October/011471.html

 But in the end, I decided not to do this since its not clear how the change
 would interact with other NFS servers...

 It's not clear to me how falling back to NFSv3 if v4 fails (and the
 version wasn't explicitly set to v4) could ever cause a problem - it
 might not help, but under what circumstances could it possibly be
 harmful? I had a look at the linked thread from linux-nfs and no-one
 there seemed to come up with anything concrete.

The strongest objection I found was

 Older versions of ONTAP (like 6.0 through 6.2?), for example, have the
 same problem as the Linux NFSv4 server does currently, iirc.

 It's also worth noting that modern Solaris clients do not have this
 ENOENT workaround.  So, if automounter maps are shared with Linux
 clients _with_ the workaround, mounting a Linux NFSv4 server, there
 may be some issues.

 In the long term, I think we are much better off living with a few
 months of complaints about the new version negotiation behavior,
 rather than having this mount.nfs workaround.  I'm not going to object
 to it outright, though...
(chuck[dot]lever[at]oracle[dot]com)

I'm not going to object outright sounds to me like we can fall back
to V3.  I think this is the best plan for us: we should not break things
for users of Fedora clients with RHEL servers or Fedora clients with
Fedora servers.

Further,

 On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
  On 10/22/2009 12:21 PM, Chuck Lever wrote:
  This would be mitigated instantly by leaving the version negotiation
  default set to v3/v2.  Then no workaround would be needed.
  Right... Or defining the negotiation in the configuration file
  would also cause the workaround not to be needed...

 That's what I meant: set defaultvers: 3 in the config file, and allow
 early adopters to change it.  After a while, we can bump the default
 setting.  I think this is roughly what Sun did during their transition.
(chuck[dot]lever[at]oracle[dot]com)

Leaving the default at Version 3 for the next year or two would mostly
solve the problem.

Andrew.

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Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:51:14 + (UTC), Fabio wrote:

 Author: fabbione
 
 Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fence-agents/F-11
 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15209
 
 Modified Files:
   fence-agents.spec 
 Log Message:
 Fix Requires: on libvirt/libvirt-client

 +%if 0%{?fedora} = 12
 +Requires: libvirt-client
 +%else
 +Requires: libvirt
 +%endif
 +

What is this explicit dependency on a package name supposed to achieve?
There is the automatic arch-specific dependency on the libvirt SONAME
already, and it is tons better than a non-arch-specific and version-less
dependency on a package name.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Explicit_Requires

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Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:51:14 + (UTC), Fabio wrote:
 
 Author: fabbione

 Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fence-agents/F-11
 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15209

 Modified Files:
  fence-agents.spec 
 Log Message:
 Fix Requires: on libvirt/libvirt-client
 
 +%if 0%{?fedora} = 12
 +Requires: libvirt-client
 +%else
 +Requires: libvirt
 +%endif
 +
 
 What is this explicit dependency on a package name supposed to achieve?

 There is the automatic arch-specific dependency on the libvirt SONAME
 already, and it is tons better than a non-arch-specific and version-less
 dependency on a package name.

The dependency on the library is pulled in via fence_xvmd that might or
might be not build (depending on ./configure invocation).

virsh used to be part of libvirt in any release before F12. It´s now
moved to libvirt-client.

So while rpm resolver does the right thing for fence_xvmd and pulls in
the right soname Requires, it cannot detect the usage of virsh within
fence_virsh.

If there are better ways to handle it, I am absolutely happy to change
the spec file but I don´t think it is correct either to break
fence_virsh because somebody is not building fence_xvmd* (that is going
to be deprecated upstream btw in not too long future).

I also considered a specific file Requires: /usr/bin/virsh, but policy
suggests to avoid that for different reasons.

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Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:17:30 +0100, Fabio wrote:

  +%if 0%{?fedora} = 12
  +Requires: libvirt-client
  +%else
  +Requires: libvirt
  +%endif
  +
  
  What is this explicit dependency on a package name supposed to achieve?
 
  There is the automatic arch-specific dependency on the libvirt SONAME
  already, and it is tons better than a non-arch-specific and version-less
  dependency on a package name.
 
 The dependency on the library is pulled in via fence_xvmd that might or
 might be not build (depending on ./configure invocation).
 
 virsh used to be part of libvirt in any release before F12. It´s now
 moved to libvirt-client.
 
 So while rpm resolver does the right thing for fence_xvmd and pulls in
 the right soname Requires, it cannot detect the usage of virsh within
 fence_virsh.

It's good practise to add a comment to the .spec file that explains
this explicit dependency.
 
 If there are better ways to handle it, I am absolutely happy to change
 the spec file but I don´t think it is correct either to break
 fence_virsh because somebody is not building fence_xvmd* (that is going
 to be deprecated upstream btw in not too long future).
 
 I also considered a specific file Requires: /usr/bin/virsh, but policy
 suggests to avoid that for different reasons.

Really? What policy is that? Programs in bin paths are covered by the
primary metadata. Such a dependency would be more accurate.

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Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:17:30 +0100, Fabio wrote:
 
 +%if 0%{?fedora} = 12
 +Requires: libvirt-client
 +%else
 +Requires: libvirt
 +%endif
 +
 What is this explicit dependency on a package name supposed to achieve?
 There is the automatic arch-specific dependency on the libvirt SONAME
 already, and it is tons better than a non-arch-specific and version-less
 dependency on a package name.
 The dependency on the library is pulled in via fence_xvmd that might or
 might be not build (depending on ./configure invocation).

 virsh used to be part of libvirt in any release before F12. It´s now
 moved to libvirt-client.

 So while rpm resolver does the right thing for fence_xvmd and pulls in
 the right soname Requires, it cannot detect the usage of virsh within
 fence_virsh.
 
 It's good practise to add a comment to the .spec file that explains
 this explicit dependency.

Ok, this is a no brainer. I´ll push the comment with the next series of
updates.

  
 If there are better ways to handle it, I am absolutely happy to change
 the spec file but I don´t think it is correct either to break
 fence_virsh because somebody is not building fence_xvmd* (that is going
 to be deprecated upstream btw in not too long future).
  
 I also considered a specific file Requires: /usr/bin/virsh, but policy
 suggests to avoid that for different reasons.
 
 Really? What policy is that? Programs in bin paths are covered by the
 primary metadata. Such a dependency would be more accurate.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#File_Dependencies

I understand that files in bin paths are already covered by primary
data, but the way it is formulated there, it sounds (to me) that there
is still extra processing involved from the different depsolver.

As I mentioned before, I am OK to change the spec file as long as
somebody else will not complain later that I should use the package (and
start playing ping-pong).

Fabio

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Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:37:28 +0100, Fabio wrote:

  I also considered a specific file Requires: /usr/bin/virsh, but policy
  suggests to avoid that for different reasons.
  
  Really? What policy is that? Programs in bin paths are covered by the
  primary metadata. Such a dependency would be more accurate.
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#File_Dependencies
 
 I understand that files in bin paths are already covered by primary
 data, but the way it is formulated there, it sounds (to me) that there
 is still extra processing involved from the different depsolver.

You've misread that section. Most of it comments on file dependencies
_outside_ (!) /etc and bin paths. Those are the ones you ought to avoid,
as the depsolvers would need to download and parse additional metadata
archives.

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Re: rpms/fence-agents/F-11 fence-agents.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-10-27 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:37:28 +0100, Fabio wrote:
 
 I also considered a specific file Requires: /usr/bin/virsh, but policy
 suggests to avoid that for different reasons.
 Really? What policy is that? Programs in bin paths are covered by the
 primary metadata. Such a dependency would be more accurate.
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#File_Dependencies

 I understand that files in bin paths are already covered by primary
 data, but the way it is formulated there, it sounds (to me) that there
 is still extra processing involved from the different depsolver.
 
 You've misread that section. Most of it comments on file dependencies
 _outside_ (!) /etc and bin paths. Those are the ones you ought to avoid,
 as the depsolvers would need to download and parse additional metadata
 archives.

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

Update spec files are on the way.

Fabio

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Re: texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?

2009-10-27 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 03:05:34PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
 I wonder if texlive should include a /etc/profile.d package to set TEXMFCNF, 
 so that other packages, such as xdvipdfmx will work?  Or, should texlive 
 just obsolete xdvipdfmx and include it's own version?

I will try to fix it in the texmf.cnf kpathsea configuration file
directly in the new TL2009 update.

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rawhide report: 20091027 changes

2009-10-27 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Oct 27 06:15:09 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
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scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblam.so.0
tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.i686 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0



Broken deps for x86_64
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blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.x86_64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.x86_64 requires lam
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scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.x86_64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.x86_64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.x86_64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.x86_64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
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Broken deps for ppc
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blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc requires liblam.so.0
blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.ppc requires lam
scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc requires liblam.so.0
scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc requires liblamf77mpi.so.0
scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
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Broken deps for ppc64
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blacs-lam-1.1-33.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
orsa-lam-0.7.0-11.fc12.ppc64 requires lam
python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot
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scalapack-lam-1.7.5-7.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
tachyon-lam-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)
tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc64 requires liblam.so.0()(64bit)
tachyon-lam-gl-0.98.7-1.fc12.ppc64 requires liblamf77mpi.so.0()(64bit)



New package kcm-gtk
Configure the appearance of GTK apps in KDE
New package python-xkit
A simple, transparent and easy to extend xorg parser
Removed package lam
Updated Packages:

389-dsgw-1.1.4-1.fc12
-
* Wed Aug 12 2009 Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com - 1.1.4-1
- bump version to 1.1.4
- fix remaining licensing problems
- fix adminutil.m4

* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.1.3-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Tue Jul 21 2009 Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com - 1.1.3-2
- use 389-adminutil instead of adminutil


artwiz-aleczapka-fonts-1.3-8.fc12
-
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.3-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild


asterisk-1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2.fc12
-
* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie j...@ocjtech.us - 1.6.1.7-0.3.rc2
- Compile against gmime 2.2 instead of gmime 2.4 because the patch to convert 
the API calls from 2.2 to 2.4 caused crashes.

* Sat Oct 24 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie j...@ocjtech.us - 1.6.1.7-0.4.rc2
- Add an AST_EXTRA_ARGS option to the init script
- have the init script to cd to /var/spool/asterisk to prevent annoying message

* Fri Oct 09 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie j...@ocjtech.us - 1.6.1.7-0.2.rc2
- Require latex2html used in static-http documents

* Thu Oct 08 2009 Jeffrey C. Ollie j...@ocjtech.us - 1.6.1.7-0.1.rc2
- Update to 1.6.1.7-rc2
- Merge firmware subpackage back into main package
- No longer need to strip tarball since it no 

Package Review Stats for last 7 days ending 25th Oct

2009-10-27 Thread Rakesh Pandit
Top two FAS account holders who have completed reviewing Package
review components on bugzilla for last 7 days ending 25th Oct were
Roman Rakus and Nicolas Mailhot.

Roman Rakus : 6

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503496
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469002
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502818
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502834
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503482
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503510


Nicolas Mailhot : 4

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528675
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530190
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526204
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529323


Mamoru Tasaka : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529799
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502614


Mattias Ellert : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527336
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527308


Nick Bebout : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528003
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512016


Parag AN(पराग) : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522482
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527319


Thomas Spura : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530205
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525192


David A. Wheeler : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529404


David Lutterkort : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514221


David Nalley : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529269


Emmanuel Seyman : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524896


Jaroslav Reznik : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530342


Jussi Lehtola : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529466


Kevin Kofler : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528096


Martin Gieseking : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529016


Mat Booth : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515136


Miroslav Suchý : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529810


Orion Poplawski : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504405


Paulo Roma Cavalcanti : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528892


Pierre-YvesChibon : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491980


Sebastian Dziallas : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527245


Simon Wesp : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492810


Steve Traylen : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516515


Yanko Kaneti : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530233



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test2 please disregard

2009-10-27 Thread Adam Miller
many apologies, just trying to sort out my list posting setup.

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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:34 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
 [With the next nfs-utils rawhide build, I will be flipping the ]
 [switch that will cause all NFS client mounts to try NFS v4 first ]
 [At the bottom of this email has the workarounds if this change does ]
 [indeed cause pain ]
 
 As part of the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFSv4Default feature
 I am one commit away from changing the default protocol version NFS will 
 be using (or at least trying to use).
 
 What does this means to you? Hopefully nothing! In theory this should 
 be a very seamless transition but with all new technology there
 will be (and are) some rough spots. 
 
 Why are make the change? See the NFSv4Default wiki for details,
 but in a nutshell:
 * Better performance - V4 is now a stateful protocol. Meaning the server 
 keeps 
   state on all the clients access a particular file or directory. This
   allows the server to give out delegations (or leases) which in turn
   allows the client to aggressive cache both data and meta data locally
 
 * Firewall Friendly- With v4 only one port is used 2049 for all traffic
   including mounting and file locking.
 
 * Finally it enables us use upcoming minor releases of the the protocol. 
   NFS version 4.1 and pNFS are two example of upcoming minor releases.
 
 
 FYI, V4 was introduced in Fedora Core 2 so it has been around for a while. I 
 personally have been using it for my home directory for a couple years now..
 For more of the nitty gritty details see  
 http://www.iaps.com/NFSv4-new-features.html 
 
 That's the good news... Here is the bad
 
 Because the mount command will try NFS v4 first, mounts to older Linux servers
 will start failing like:
 
  # mount linux-server:/export /mnt
  mount.nfs: mounting linux-server:/export failed, reason given by server:
 No such file or directory
 
 This is due to a defect in the Linux server exporting code, which is fixed 
 in F-12, *but* there are a number of workarounds
 
 On the server (Which is suggested):
* Add the following entry to the /etc/exports file:
  / *(ro,fsid=0) Note: 'fsid=0' is explained in the exports(5) man pages.
 
 On the client, go back to v3 mounts by doing one of the following:
 
* Add -o v3 to command line, similar to:
 mount linux-server:/export /mnt
 
* Change the default mount version in the new /etc/nfsmount.conf file by 
  uncommenting the Nfsvers=3 setting in the 'NFSMount_Global_Options' 
 section.
  See nfsmount.conf(5) man page for details. The diff would look like:
 
 --- /etc/nfsmount.conf.orig   2009-10-26 09:30:21.0 -0400
 +++ /etc/nfsmount.conf2009-10-26 10:31:30.227443686 -0400
 @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
 # Protocol Version [2,3,4]
 # This defines the default protocol version which will
 # be used to start the negotiation with the server.
-# Defaultvers=4
+Defaultvers=3
 #
 # Setting this option makes it mandatory the server supports the
 # given version. The mount will fail if the given version is 

Haven't gone through the full thread yet, but is it worth adding a
note/admonition to our NFS installation instructions that changing the
nfs server configuration may be necessary?

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch03s05s02.html

Thanks,
James


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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Ric Wheeler

On 10/27/2009 10:00 AM, James Laska wrote:

On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:34 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:

[With the next nfs-utils rawhide build, I will be flipping the ]
[switch that will cause all NFS client mounts to try NFS v4 first ]
[At the bottom of this email has the workarounds if this change does ]
[indeed cause pain ]

As part of the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFSv4Default feature
I am one commit away from changing the default protocol version NFS will
be using (or at least trying to use).

What does this means to you? Hopefully nothing! In theory this should
be a very seamless transition but with all new technology there
will be (and are) some rough spots.

Why are make the change? See the NFSv4Default wiki for details,
but in a nutshell:
 * Better performance - V4 is now a stateful protocol. Meaning the server 
keeps
   state on all the clients access a particular file or directory. This
   allows the server to give out delegations (or leases) which in turn
   allows the client to aggressive cache both data and meta data locally

 * Firewall Friendly- With v4 only one port is used 2049 for all traffic
   including mounting and file locking.

 * Finally it enables us use upcoming minor releases of the the protocol.
   NFS version 4.1 and pNFS are two example of upcoming minor releases.


FYI, V4 was introduced in Fedora Core 2 so it has been around for a while. I
personally have been using it for my home directory for a couple years now..
For more of the nitty gritty details see
 http://www.iaps.com/NFSv4-new-features.html

That's the good news... Here is the bad

Because the mount command will try NFS v4 first, mounts to older Linux servers
will start failing like:

  # mount linux-server:/export /mnt
  mount.nfs: mounting linux-server:/export failed, reason given by server:
 No such file or directory

This is due to a defect in the Linux server exporting code, which is fixed
in F-12, *but* there are a number of workarounds

On the server (Which is suggested):
* Add the following entry to the /etc/exports file:
  / *(ro,fsid=0) Note: 'fsid=0' is explained in the exports(5) man pages.

On the client, go back to v3 mounts by doing one of the following:

* Add -o v3 to command line, similar to:
 mount linux-server:/export /mnt

* Change the default mount version in the new /etc/nfsmount.conf file by
  uncommenting the Nfsvers=3 setting in the 'NFSMount_Global_Options' 
section.
  See nfsmount.conf(5) man page for details. The diff would look like:

 --- /etc/nfsmount.conf.orig2009-10-26 09:30:21.0 -0400
 +++ /etc/nfsmount.conf 2009-10-26 10:31:30.227443686 -0400
 @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
 # Protocol Version [2,3,4]
 # This defines the default protocol version which will
 # be used to start the negotiation with the server.
-# Defaultvers=4
+Defaultvers=3
 #
 # Setting this option makes it mandatory the server supports the
 # given version. The mount will fail if the given version is


Haven't gone through the full thread yet, but is it worth adding a
note/admonition to our NFS installation instructions that changing the
nfs server configuration may be necessary?

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch03s05s02.html

Thanks,
James




I think that adding a note to the documentation would be a very good thing...

ric

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libmusicbrainz orphaned

2009-10-27 Thread Bastien Nocera
Heya,

Seeing as libmusicbrainz will have a limited shelf life (the upstream
servers for that revision of the protocol will be switched off shortly),
and that no GNOME apps use it any more, I'm letting it go.

I'd expect Rex to pick it up, as KDE still uses it.

Cheers

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Re: texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?

2009-10-27 Thread Neal Becker
Jindrich Novy wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 03:05:34PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
 I wonder if texlive should include a /etc/profile.d package to set
 TEXMFCNF,
 so that other packages, such as xdvipdfmx will work?  Or, should texlive
 just obsolete xdvipdfmx and include it's own version?
 
 I will try to fix it in the texmf.cnf kpathsea configuration file
 directly in the new TL2009 update.
 
 Jindrich
 
Could you explain?  Will you replace the current xdvipdfmx?  The current 
will use kpathsea and will look for config in /usr/share/texmf.  I was 
thinking either:

1) Replace the current xdvipdfmx with the one shipped with texlive

or

2) Use /etc/profile.d to set TEXMFCNF

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Re: libmusicbrainz orphaned

2009-10-27 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Man, that's worrying.
libmusicbrainz is an indirect dependence of listen (through
libtunepimp), if no one steps, i'll sure have to.
At least, i'm willing to co-maintain it.

H.






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Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Martin Dubuc
On most laptops, there is a way to disable Wi-Fi either through function
keys or kill switch. I am wondering if there is a way programmatically
speaking to figure out whether or not Wi-Fi is currently disabled because
the user has pressed the Wi-Fi function key or turned Wi-Fi off with the
kill switch.

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Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

2009-10-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Thursday 22 October 2009 07:29:49 pm Milos Jakubicek wrote:
 Hi,
snip
  Not a primary arch package (should the package be blocked in the primary
  arch kojihub?)
  ==
  prtconf
  silo
  xorg-x11-drv-sunffb
 
 There are much more of them! I don't know whether it is possible to
 block a package in a single Koji hub and if our infrastructure team is
 willing to go in this way -- Jesse?

blocking a package on the primary hub will result in the package also being 
blocked on the secodnary arch hubs.  since one of the things we want to do is 
keep the arches in sync.  it will also mean that a packges doesnt get branched 
in cvs since the branching tools will think its no longer needed.

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prelinked octave segfaults in F-12

2009-10-27 Thread Orion Poplawski

I'd like to call attention to this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526833

Apparently, prelinking octave on F-12 causes it to segfault on startup. 
 Can anyone else reproduce this?  Does anyone have an idea as to why 
this might happen?


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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:00 -0400, James Laska wrote:
 
 Haven't gone through the full thread yet, but is it worth adding a
 note/admonition to our NFS installation instructions that changing the
 nfs server configuration may be necessary?
 
 http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch03s05s02.html 

I do believe this change is targeting F13 though, not F12, so please
don't change any F12 documentation (:

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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:24 -0400, Martin Dubuc wrote:
 On most laptops, there is a way to disable Wi-Fi either through function
 keys or kill switch. I am wondering if there is a way programmatically
 speaking to figure out whether or not Wi-Fi is currently disabled because
 the user has pressed the Wi-Fi function key or turned Wi-Fi off with the
 kill switch. 

At least on my laptop I have:

/sys/class/rfkill/rfkill1/state when my kill switch is thrown.  This
seems to cover the wifi.  When I unkill, which enables bluetooth, I get
rfkill2 as well with a state of 1.  In my bios I have the switch set to
cover cellular and bluetooth, so no switch can kill the wifi.

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Re: prelinked octave segfaults in F-12

2009-10-27 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 16:58:43 Orion Poplawski wrote:
 I'd like to call attention to this bug:
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526833
 
 Apparently, prelinking octave on F-12 causes it to segfault on startup.
   Can anyone else reproduce this?

I am sorry for not reporting this before but I had the same problem and I 
found the same solution.

When octave segfaults on start the first step is to run
prelink  -u /usr/bin/octave

and then it works again.

   Does anyone have an idea as to why this might happen?

Not me. :-(

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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Eric Sandeen
Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Id like to get some feedback on the patches that i'm proposing for F-13.  
 quite a few packages that need to deal with differences between 32bit/64bit  
 or 
 multilib arches have defines for the appropriate arches.  sometimes 
 incomplete 
 since they don't include secondary arches.
 
 I wanted to get some feedback. and see if there are other cases we should add.
 
 Dennis
 

I have hacks like this in e2fsprogs.spec for example:


%ifarch %{multilib_arches}
mv -f %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types.h \
  %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types-%{_arch}.h
install -p -m 644 %{SOURCE1} %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types.h
%endif

Unless I'm doing a Bad Thing here, maybe some macros to facilitate this
type of header mangling for multiarch?

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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 12:45:10 pm Eric Sandeen wrote:
 Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Id like to get some feedback on the patches that i'm proposing for F-13.
  quite a few packages that need to deal with differences between
  32bit/64bit  or multilib arches have defines for the appropriate arches. 
  sometimes incomplete since they don't include secondary arches.
 
  I wanted to get some feedback. and see if there are other cases we should
  add.
 
  Dennis
 
 I have hacks like this in e2fsprogs.spec for example:
 
 
 %ifarch %{multilib_arches}
 mv -f %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types.h \
   %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types-%{_arch}.h
 install -p -m 644 %{SOURCE1} %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types.h
 %endif
 
 Unless I'm doing a Bad Thing here, maybe some macros to facilitate this
 type of header mangling for multiarch?

right now you need to define multilib_arches for that to work with my proposed 
changes you could drop your defines  and use 
%ifarch %{multilib64} %{multilib32}

maybe we want to define a multilibarches macro also   that way if/when we add a 
new multilib arch. we make one changes and rebuild everything and we support 
it. rather than changing potentially hundresd of spec files.  of course they 
will need to be changed to use the new macros.


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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:40 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:

 Id like to get some feedback on the patches that i'm proposing for F-13.  
 quite a few packages that need to deal with differences between 32bit/64bit  
 or 
 multilib arches have defines for the appropriate arches.  sometimes 
 incomplete 
 since they don't include secondary arches.
 
 I wanted to get some feedback. and see if there are other cases we should add.

+%multilib32 sparc sparcv8 sparcv9 sparcv9v ppc s390
+%multilib64 x86_64 sparc64 sparc64v ppc64 s390x

Remind me what the asymmetry is for here?  Why is %{ix86} not in
%{multilib32} ?

In general I'd kind of prefer to see headers modified to use gcc's
predefines for __SIZEOF_LONG__ and friends instead, but I'll take what I
can get.

- ajax


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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:24:10PM -0400, Martin Dubuc wrote:
 On most laptops, there is a way to disable Wi-Fi either through function
 keys or kill switch. I am wondering if there is a way programmatically
 speaking to figure out whether or not Wi-Fi is currently disabled because
 the user has pressed the Wi-Fi function key or turned Wi-Fi off with the
 kill switch.

  You can install rfkill package and use same-named command:
% rfkill list
0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: yes
Hard blocked: no
2: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no


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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:16:46 pm Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:40 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  Id like to get some feedback on the patches that i'm proposing for F-13.
  quite a few packages that need to deal with differences between
  32bit/64bit  or multilib arches have defines for the appropriate arches. 
  sometimes incomplete since they don't include secondary arches.
 
  I wanted to get some feedback. and see if there are other cases we should
  add.
 
 +%multilib32 sparc sparcv8 sparcv9 sparcv9v ppc s390
 +%multilib64 x86_64 sparc64 sparc64v ppc64 s390x
 
 Remind me what the asymmetry is for here?  Why is %{ix86} not in
 %{multilib32} ?
 
 In general I'd kind of prefer to see headers modified to use gcc's
 predefines for __SIZEOF_LONG__ and friends instead, but I'll take what I
 can get.

it should be the attached patch.  the initial one was based on what gcc does 
in its spec.  it treats %{ix86} as  not being multilib. 

+%multilib32 %{ix86} %{sparc32} ppc s390
+%multilib64 x86_64 %{sparc64} ppc64 s390x

--- redhat-rpm-config-9.0.3-orig/macros	2009-10-27 10:18:01.0 -0500
+++ redhat-rpm-config-9.0.3/macros	2009-10-27 12:14:24.0 -0500
@@ -277,3 +277,7 @@
 %global __find_requires /bin/sh -c %{?__filter_req_cmd}  %{__deploop R} %{?__filter_from_req} \
 }
 
+#==
+# Set up multilib arch definitions
+%multilib32 sparc sparcv8 sparcv9 sparcv9v ppc s390
+%multilib64 x86_64 sparc64 sparc64v ppc64 s390x


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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Roland McGrath
 But with with older releases I don't messing with people configuration 
 files since I would not want to break an existing configuration... 

Still never suggested that.

 Note, there is a number of people who are currently running with 
 correctly configured v4 server... I would hate to mess those people up.. 

Of course.  So push an F-11 update where whatever configuration never
mentions v4 and doesn't work for v4, doesn't advertise v4.

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KDE-SIG weekly report (44/2009)

2009-10-27 Thread Sebastian Vahl
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the 
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
 to this email or add it to the related meeting page.

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= Weekly KDE Summary =

Week: 44/2009

Time: 2009-10-27 14:00 UTC

Meeting page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-10-27

Meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
meeting/2009-10-27/fedora-meeting.2009-10-27-14.06.html

Meeting log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
meeting/2009-10-27/fedora-meeting.2009-10-27-14.06.log.html

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= Participants =

*  BenBoeckel
* EikeHein
* JaroslavReznik
* KevinKofler
* LukasTinkl
* MaryEllenFoster
* RexDieter
* SebastianVahl
* StevenParrish
* ThanNgo
* ThomasJanssen
* nucleo 

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= Agenda =

*  topics to discuss:
o Final Fedora 12 artwork
o Status of eigen2
o qt-4.5.3: updates, F-12
o soprano status: sesame, virtuoso 

= Summary =

o Final Fedora 12 artwork:
* Current status of KSplash theme for Constantine [1] 
* This needs to be adapted for KDM theme. 

o Status of eigen2:
* eigen2 was downgraded to 2.0.6 in F-12 and all depending packages were 
rebuilt and tagged. 

o qt-4.5.3: updates, F-12:
* RexDieter asked about the handling of qt-4.5.3 in F-12 (updates-testing vs. 
F-12 final).
* 2 issues are known so far:
- Problems with qt-4.5.3 and the qt4 build of Opera.
- 3-star-echo-mode causes the auth dialogs to pause/freeze. (kde#211250)  [2]
* F-12 final is preferred but awaiting feedback from ThanNgo first. 

o soprano status: sesame, virtuoso:
* MaryEllenFoster gave a status update of her work on soprano-sesame2 backend:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaryEllenFoster/SopranoSesame [3]
- There a still a lot of JPackage packages which needs to be reviewed or 
updated. 
* Virtuoso will not be working properly until KDE 4.4. gets released or the 
relevant changes gets backported.
* virtuoso-opensource-5.0.12 packages are built as updates in F-12.
* soprano-2.3.65 with virtuoso support is built in devel branch (also 
available in kde-unstable repositories at kde-redhat). 

o Open discussion:
* gtk-qt-engine was replaced by kcm-gtk. 

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[2] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211250
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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 01:24:33PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 it should be the attached patch.  the initial one was based on what gcc does 
 in its spec.  it treats %{ix86} as  not being multilib. 

That's because %{ix86} gcc isn't multilib capable, unlike e.g. ppc/ppc64
or sparcv9/sparc64 where the support is symmetric (32-bit gcc can compile
64-bit code and vice versa), on x86_64 you need x86_64 gcc to be able to
compile 64-bit stuff.

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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Eric Sandeen
Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 On Tuesday 27 October 2009 12:45:10 pm Eric Sandeen wrote:
 Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 Hi All,

 Id like to get some feedback on the patches that i'm proposing for F-13.
 quite a few packages that need to deal with differences between
 32bit/64bit  or multilib arches have defines for the appropriate arches. 
 sometimes incomplete since they don't include secondary arches.

 I wanted to get some feedback. and see if there are other cases we should
 add.

 Dennis
 I have hacks like this in e2fsprogs.spec for example:


 %ifarch %{multilib_arches}
 mv -f %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types.h \
   %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types-%{_arch}.h
 install -p -m 644 %{SOURCE1} %{buildroot}%{_includedir}/ext2fs/ext2_types.h
 %endif

 Unless I'm doing a Bad Thing here, maybe some macros to facilitate this
 type of header mangling for multiarch?
 
 right now you need to define multilib_arches for that to work with my 
 proposed 
 changes you could drop your defines  and use 
 %ifarch %{multilib64} %{multilib32}

Right, I was hoping for maybe some macros to make my above mess simpler;

%{do_magic_header_stuff} header1.h header2.h ...

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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Ola Thoresen
On 27. okt. 2009 19:18, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
   You can install rfkill package and use same-named command:



Nice app. Thanks for the tip.
But does anyone have any idea about how to disable the hardware kill
switch, when linux insists it is enabled no matter what position the
switch is really set to:

- WLAN enabled (hardware switch set to On):

# rfkill list
0: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: yes


- Switching to off shows this in the log:
 atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf1 on
isa0060/serio0).
 atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e071 keycode' to make it known.
 atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf1 on
isa0060/serio0).
 atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e071 keycode' to make it known.

# rfkill list
0: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: yes


Still no luck...




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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:40:14PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
+# arch macro for all supported 32 bit builds
+%32bitarches %{ix86} %{sparc32} %{arm} s390
+# arch macro for all supported 64 bit builds
+%64bitarches x86_64 %{sparc64} ia64 s390x %{alpha} 

missing ppc and ppc64 respectively here, aren't you?

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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:17:57 pm Josh Boyer wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:40:14PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 +# arch macro for all supported 32 bit builds
 +%32bitarches %{ix86} %{sparc32} %{arm} s390
 +# arch macro for all supported 64 bit builds
 +%64bitarches x86_64 %{sparc64} ia64 s390x %{alpha}
 
 missing ppc and ppc64 respectively here, aren't you?
 
 josh
indeed i am sorry  this should be better

Dennis
--- rpm-4.7.1/macros.in.orig	2009-10-27 11:36:12.0 -0500
+++ rpm-4.7.1/macros.in	2009-10-27 14:29:23.0 -0500
@@ -1194,11 +1194,23 @@
 #--
 # arch macro for all supported Sparc processors
 %sparc sparc sparcv8 sparcv9 sparcv9v sparc64 sparc64v
+# arch macro for all supported sparc32 bit builds
+%sparc32 sparc sparcv8 sparcv9 sparcv9v
+# arch macro for all supported sparc64 bit builds
+%sparc64 sparc64 sparc64v
 
 #--
 # arch macro for all supported Alpha processors
 %alpha	alpha alphaev56 alphaev6 alphaev67
 
+
+#--
+# arch macro for all supported 32 bit builds
+%32bitarches %{ix86} %{sparc32} %{arm} s390 ppc
+# arch macro for all supported 64 bit builds
+%64bitarches x86_64 %{sparc64} ia64 s390x %{alpha} ppc64
+
+
 #
 # Use in %install to generate locale specific file lists. For example,
 #


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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Peter Jones
On 10/27/2009 03:03 PM, Ola Thoresen wrote:
 On 27. okt. 2009 19:18, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
   You can install rfkill package and use same-named command:
 
 Nice app. Thanks for the tip.
 But does anyone have any idea about how to disable the hardware kill
 switch, when linux insists it is enabled no matter what position the
 switch is really set to:

AIUI, this means there's a physical switch somewhere on the device.

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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Martin Dubuc
This is a very nice tool. Unfortunately, on my system running Fedora 11, I
get the following erro:
Can't open RFKILL control device: No such file or directory

Using strace, I discovered that rfkill is trying to open path /dev/rfkill,
but this path does not exist on my system. Instead, it should try to open
path /sys/class/rfkill.

Martin

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:24:10PM -0400, Martin Dubuc wrote:
  On most laptops, there is a way to disable Wi-Fi either through function
  keys or kill switch. I am wondering if there is a way programmatically
  speaking to figure out whether or not Wi-Fi is currently disabled because
  the user has pressed the Wi-Fi function key or turned Wi-Fi off with the
  kill switch.

   You can install rfkill package and use same-named command:
 % rfkill list
 0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: yes
Hard blocked: no
 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no


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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:03:54PM +0100, Ola Thoresen wrote:

 Nice app. Thanks for the tip.
 But does anyone have any idea about how to disable the hardware kill
 switch, when linux insists it is enabled no matter what position the
 switch is really set to:

What hardware is this?

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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:40 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 Id like to get some feedback on the patches that i'm proposing for F-13.  
 quite a few packages that need to deal with differences between 32bit/64bit  
 or 
 multilib arches have defines for the appropriate arches.  sometimes 
 incomplete 
 since they don't include secondary arches. 

I'm not really a fan of growing more macro goo, particularly if it's
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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 03:17:15 pm Jesse Keating wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:40 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  Id like to get some feedback on the patches that i'm proposing for F-13.
  quite a few packages that need to deal with differences between
  32bit/64bit  or multilib arches have defines for the appropriate arches. 
  sometimes incomplete since they don't include secondary arches.
 
 I'm not really a fan of growing more macro goo, particularly if it's
 Fedora specific macro goo :/
 
the multilib ones were the only ones i intended to put in redhat-rpm-config 
though im just as happy to try and get it into rpm.  the rest i had intended 
to get into rpm.

Dennis


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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Steve Dickson


On 10/27/2009 02:33 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:
 But with with older releases I don't messing with people configuration 
 files since I would not want to break an existing configuration... 
 
 Still never suggested that.
 
 Note, there is a number of people who are currently running with 
 correctly configured v4 server... I would hate to mess those people up.. 
 
 Of course.  So push an F-11 update where whatever configuration never
 mentions v4 and doesn't work for v4, doesn't advertise v4.
 
Not sure how I would do this without the update being called a 
regression... any update that disables features does not seem
like a good thing...

steved.

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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Steve Dickson


On 10/26/2009 04:06 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
 Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes:
 
 [...]
 Unfortunately, this sounds like only.  Is it out of the question to
 make the client look for this case (an upgraded client in an existing
 unupgraded, unchanged network) and handle it?
 We talked about it... See [...]

 But in the end, I decided not to do this since its not clear how the change
 would interact with other NFS servers...
 
 It's a bit odd that we're about to push a backward-incompatible
 change into Fedora, just in case non-Fedora servers are around.
Well the reason for the incompatibility is the simple fact that 
the Linux server is a bit behind the rest of the servers out there
when it comes to this particular type of v4 support... 

Note, I've been pushing kernel patches to for over a year now (which are 
in currently in the F-12) which would bring the server up to speed in 
this area... but they gained any priority with the maintainer... 
until recently... 

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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tuesday 27 October 2009, Adam Jackson wrote:

 +%multilib32 sparc sparcv8 sparcv9 sparcv9v ppc s390
 +%multilib64 x86_64 sparc64 sparc64v ppc64 s390x
 
 Remind me what the asymmetry is for here?  Why is %{ix86} not in
 %{multilib32} ?

Hm, maybe a stupid question: in what sense are %{ix86} multilib in the first 
place?

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Re: RFC: proposed macro deffinitions for F-13

2009-10-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 03:48:13 pm Ville Skyttä wrote:
 On Tuesday 27 October 2009, Adam Jackson wrote:
  +%multilib32 sparc sparcv8 sparcv9 sparcv9v ppc s390
  +%multilib64 x86_64 sparc64 sparc64v ppc64 s390x
 
  Remind me what the asymmetry is for here?  Why is %{ix86} not in
  %{multilib32} ?
 
 Hm, maybe a stupid question: in what sense are %{ix86} multilib in the
  first place?
when you install %{ix86} packages on a x86_64 system.  same for ppc and 
%{sparc32} and s390.  

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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 SD == Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes:

SD On the server (Which is suggested): Add the following entry to the
SD /etc/exports file:

SD / *(ro,fsid=0)

SD Note: 'fsid=0' is explained in the exports(5) man pages.

Could someone comment on any potential security issues that exporting
the root in this way exposes?  If all of my exported filesystems happen
to live under /export, can I export that directory instead of '/' and
have things work properly?  If, for whatever reason, I need to export a
file system that doesn't live in /export, would I still be able to mount
it?

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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Peter Jones
On 10/27/2009 03:49 PM, Martin Dubuc wrote:
 This is a very nice tool. Unfortunately, on my system running Fedora 11, I
 get the following erro:
 Can't open RFKILL control device: No such file or directory
 
 Using strace, I discovered that rfkill is trying to open path /dev/rfkill,
 but this path does not exist on my system. Instead, it should try to open
 path /sys/class/rfkill.

Yep, that feature isn't in kernels that old.

 
 Martin
 
 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote:
 
 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:24:10PM -0400, Martin Dubuc wrote:
 On most laptops, there is a way to disable Wi-Fi either through function
 keys or kill switch. I am wondering if there is a way programmatically
 speaking to figure out whether or not Wi-Fi is currently disabled because
 the user has pressed the Wi-Fi function key or turned Wi-Fi off with the
 kill switch.

   You can install rfkill package and use same-named command:
 % rfkill list
 0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: yes
Hard blocked: no
 2: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no


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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread John W. Linville
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 03:49:35PM -0400, Martin Dubuc wrote:
 This is a very nice tool. Unfortunately, on my system running Fedora 11, I
 get the following erro:
 Can't open RFKILL control device: No such file or directory
 
 Using strace, I discovered that rfkill is trying to open path /dev/rfkill,
 but this path does not exist on my system. Instead, it should try to open
 path /sys/class/rfkill.

No, it shouldn't -- not the same thing.

As Peter Jones pointed-out, you need a newer kernel for that tool to work.

Hth...

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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Roland McGrath
  Of course.  So push an F-11 update where whatever configuration never
  mentions v4 and doesn't work for v4, doesn't advertise v4.
  
 Not sure how I would do this without the update being called a 
 regression... any update that disables features does not seem
 like a good thing...

I described an update that disables FEATURES YOU SAID DO NOT WORK.

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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Ola Thoresen
On 27. okt. 2009 21:10, Matthew Garrett wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:03:54PM +0100, Ola Thoresen wrote:
 
 Nice app. Thanks for the tip.
 But does anyone have any idea about how to disable the hardware kill
 switch, when linux insists it is enabled no matter what position the
 switch is really set to:
 
 What hardware is this?
 

02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)

(And it is the physical switch I am turning on and off)

Has had this issue for years (really). Here is a message from 2007 to
this list about it:
http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/fedora-devel-list@redhat.com/7502379.html
- With a link to an ubuntuforum-thread about the same issue.

Not really expecting a fix now, but if anyone is interessted, I can
submit a bug or try different kernels or whatever you need.


Rgds.

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Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-27 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:40:30PM +0100, Ola Thoresen wrote:
 On 27. okt. 2009 21:10, Matthew Garrett wrote:
  What hardware is this?
  
 
 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
 [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
 
 (And it is the physical switch I am turning on and off)

What's it plugged into?

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-10-27 Thread James Cassell
On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:55:50 -0400, Rahul Sundaram  
sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:



On 05/29/2009 07:34 PM, Mat Booth wrote:



I don't think JEP should be on that list. I've used it in few
commercial products and its a thousand dollars a pop for a source code
licence:

http://www.singularsys.com/order/


JEP in the wiki is linked to http://sourceforge.net/projects/jep/. Are
you even talking about the same software?


at the top of the sourceforge link you provided, it say As of 2008-09-29  
00:00, this project may now be found at http://www.singularsys.com/jep;

so yes, it's the same software


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Re: Notice: Fedora 12 Tagging Status Update

2009-10-27 Thread Bojan Smojver
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 16:18 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
 5) How many untagged packages are there?
 
 koji list-tagged --latest dist-f12-updates-candidate

I ran this today (just for kicks). It gives back 323 packages. Even with
false positives, it a large amount for zero day updates.

This is just FYI. The original e-mail was about removing a backlog of
250+ packages waiting in Bodhi.

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[Bug 525587] Close tag missing in XML output of optionally empty tags

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rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-4 perl-Email-Date-Format.spec, NONE, 1.1 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-10-27 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-4
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv20336/EL-4

Modified Files:
sources 
Added Files:
perl-Email-Date-Format.spec 
Log Message:
epel


--- NEW FILE perl-Email-Date-Format.spec ---
Name:   perl-Email-Date-Format
Version:1.002
Release:4%{?dist}
Summary:Produce RFC 2822 date strings
Group:  Development/Libraries
License:GPL+ or Artistic
URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Email-Date-Format/
Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/R/RJ/RJBS/Email-Date-Format-%{version}.tar.gz
BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker), perl(Test::More), perl(Time::Local)
BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod), perl(Test::Pod::Coverage)
BuildArch:  noarch
Requires:  perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo $version))

%description
This module can be used to emit RFC 2822 style date strings.

%prep
%setup -q -n Email-Date-Format-%{version}

%build
sed -i '/LICENSE/ d' Makefile.PL
%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
make

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*

%check
make test

%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

%files
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc README LICENSE
%{perl_vendorlib}/Email/
%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*

%changelog
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.002-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.002-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild

* Sat Feb  2 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 1.002-2
- rebuild for new perl

* Wed Dec 19 2007 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 1.002-1
- Initial package for Fedora


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-4/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 20 Dec 2007 19:33:58 -  1.1
+++ sources 27 Oct 2009 18:10:46 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+7ae25275da6ab272aa8b40141eac9f82  Email-Date-Format-1.002.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-5 perl-Email-Date-Format.spec, NONE, 1.1 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-10-27 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-5
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv20336/EL-5

Modified Files:
sources 
Added Files:
perl-Email-Date-Format.spec 
Log Message:
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--- NEW FILE perl-Email-Date-Format.spec ---
Name:   perl-Email-Date-Format
Version:1.002
Release:4%{?dist}
Summary:Produce RFC 2822 date strings
Group:  Development/Libraries
License:GPL+ or Artistic
URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Email-Date-Format/
Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/R/RJ/RJBS/Email-Date-Format-%{version}.tar.gz
BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker), perl(Test::More), perl(Time::Local)
BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod), perl(Test::Pod::Coverage)
BuildArch:  noarch
Requires:  perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo $version))

%description
This module can be used to emit RFC 2822 style date strings.

%prep
%setup -q -n Email-Date-Format-%{version}

%build
sed -i '/LICENSE/ d' Makefile.PL
%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
make

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*

%check
make test

%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

%files
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc README LICENSE
%{perl_vendorlib}/Email/
%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*

%changelog
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.002-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild

* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.002-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild

* Sat Feb  2 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 1.002-2
- rebuild for new perl

* Wed Dec 19 2007 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 1.002-1
- Initial package for Fedora


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-5/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 20 Dec 2007 19:33:58 -  1.1
+++ sources 27 Oct 2009 18:10:46 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+7ae25275da6ab272aa8b40141eac9f82  Email-Date-Format-1.002.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-4 perl-Email-Date-Format.spec, 1.1, 1.2

2009-10-27 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-4
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv20960

Modified Files:
perl-Email-Date-Format.spec 
Log Message:
el4


Index: perl-Email-Date-Format.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Email-Date-Format/EL-4/perl-Email-Date-Format.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- perl-Email-Date-Format.spec 27 Oct 2009 18:10:46 -  1.1
+++ perl-Email-Date-Format.spec 27 Oct 2009 18:13:05 -  1.2
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Email-Date-Format
 Version:1.002
-Release:4%{?dist}
+Release:4%{?dist}.1
 Summary:Produce RFC 2822 date strings
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic

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rpms/perl-SNMP_Session/EL-5 perl-SNMP_Session.spec, 1.5, 1.6 sources, 1.3, 1.4

2009-10-27 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-SNMP_Session/EL-5
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv22215

Modified Files:
perl-SNMP_Session.spec sources 
Log Message:
update to current


Index: perl-SNMP_Session.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-SNMP_Session/EL-5/perl-SNMP_Session.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- perl-SNMP_Session.spec  7 Sep 2006 13:58:07 -   1.5
+++ perl-SNMP_Session.spec  27 Oct 2009 18:18:53 -  1.6
@@ -1,15 +1,16 @@
 Name:   perl-SNMP_Session
-Version:1.08
+Version:1.12
 Release:3%{?dist}
 Summary:SNMP support for Perl 5
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
-License:Artistic
+License:Artistic 2.0
 URL:http://www.switch.ch/misc/leinen/snmp/perl/
 Source0:
http://www.switch.ch/misc/leinen/snmp/perl/dist/SNMP_Session-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 
 BuildArch:  noarch
+BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
 
 %description
@@ -53,6 +54,21 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.12-3
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.12-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Tue Apr 22 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 1.12-1
+- update to 1.12 (license change to Artistic 2.0)
+
+* Thu Mar 06 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 1.08-4.1
+- Rebuild for new perl
+
+* Tue Oct 16 2007 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 1.08-3.1
+- add BR: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
+
 * Thu Sep  7 2006 Jose Pedro Oliveira jpo at di.uminho.pt - 1.08-3
 - Rebuild for FC6.
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-SNMP_Session/EL-5/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- sources 29 Dec 2005 01:51:22 -  1.3
+++ sources 27 Oct 2009 18:18:53 -  1.4
@@ -1 +1 @@
-91ab58bd2c170145436f68578a2705ab  SNMP_Session-1.08.tar.gz
+5f6b365b4c3815b13d7a902d94e254af  SNMP_Session-1.12.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-SNMP_Session/EL-5 perl-SNMP_Session.spec,1.6,1.7

2009-10-27 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-SNMP_Session/EL-5
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv29483

Modified Files:
perl-SNMP_Session.spec 
Log Message:
minor tag bump


Index: perl-SNMP_Session.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-SNMP_Session/EL-5/perl-SNMP_Session.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.6
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -p -r1.6 -r1.7
--- perl-SNMP_Session.spec  27 Oct 2009 18:18:53 -  1.6
+++ perl-SNMP_Session.spec  27 Oct 2009 18:51:34 -  1.7
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-SNMP_Session
 Version:1.12
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}.1
 Summary:SNMP support for Perl 5
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -54,6 +54,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Oct 27 2009 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 1.12-3.1
+- minor bump for EL-5
+
 * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.12-3
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
 

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